by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: Atlanta
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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PrintTake a deep dive inside the lap charts with this week's Sign of the Lap Times.
450SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
52.502 |
6 |
53.595 |
James Stewart |
| 2 | 4 |
52.537 |
8 |
53.831 |
Justin Barcia |
| 3 | 3 |
52.795 |
7 |
53.677 |
Davi Millsaps |
| 4 | 5 |
52.820 |
6 |
53.912 |
Trey Canard |
| 5 | 2 |
52.876 |
6 |
53.607 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 6 |
6 |
53.038 |
6 |
53.926 |
Ryan Dungey |
| 7 | 7 |
54.002 |
12 |
55.002 |
Eli Tomac |
| 8 |
14 |
54.196 |
5 |
56.148 |
Andrew Short |
| 9 | 8 |
54.235 |
4 |
55.353 |
Jake Weimer |
| 10 | 9 |
54.342 |
9 |
55.260 |
Chad Reed |
| 11 | 11 |
54.481 |
10 |
55.352 |
Matt Goerke |
| 12 | 13 |
54.486 |
4 |
55.188 |
Justin Brayton |
| 13 | 10 |
54.688 |
6 |
55.418 |
Mike Alessi |
| 14 | 12 |
54.706 |
7 |
55.580 |
Broc Tickle |
| 15 | 20 |
55.171 |
11 |
55.934 |
Robert Kiniry |
| 16 | 19 |
55.305 |
5 |
57.253 |
Jimmy Albertson |
| 17 | 16 |
55.538 |
9 |
57.213 |
Josh Hill |
| 18 | 15 |
55.542 |
11 |
56.994 |
PJ Larsen |
| 19 | 18 |
55.571 |
5 |
58.744 |
Les Smith |
| 20 | 17 |
55.741 |
7 |
57.671 |
Chris Blose |
450SX
- For the first time all season James Stewart would set the fastest lap in the main event with a 52.502 on lap 6.- In his 450SX debut, GEICO Honda’s Eli Tomac would set the latest fastest lap of the night with a 54.002 on lap 12. Although he admitted to riding tight in his maiden 450 voyage, Tomac’s 54.002 would rank seventh best in 450SX. That’s the position he finished in, as well.
- Stewart and Ryan Villopoto were the only two riders to set all their laps under 55-seconds.
- Davi Millsaps and Ryan Dungey would come close to matching the feats of Stewart and RV with each setting just one lap over 55-seconds.
- The pack was tight in Atlanta. Every rider in 450SX set a fast lap under 56-seconds. Far and away the closest the times have been all season.
- Stewart stormed out of the gate with twelve consecutive laps under 54-seconds to begin the race. Yet, it was only good enough for second best as RV set his first thirteen laps under 54-seconds.
- Jake Weimer was back in action after missing the last two rounds with broken ribs, but Weimer’s fitness didn’t seem to miss a beat. He’s last five laps were under 56-seconds, which bested his first five laps where he had two laps over 57-seconds.
Comparison
James Stewart vs. Ryan Villopoto – Segments
A hot topic from Atlanta was James Stewart’s ability to stretch his lead over Ryan Villopoto in the dragon back rhythm section. We decided to dig a little deeper and take a look at the segmented times from Atlanta. The AMA actually breaks the track into three sections, and riders and teams can follow their times in each section. In Atlanta, segment one included the rhythm section and was the longest of the night. The other two segments began at the whoops section and ran until after the finish line.
| Lap | JS / Seg 1 | RV / Seg 1 | JS / Seg 2 | RV / Seg 2 | JS / Seg 3 | RV / Seg 3 | Lap Time JS / RV |
| 2 | 21.904 | 23.1 | 18.852 | 17.859 | 12.749 | 12.708 | 53.505 / 53.667 |
| 4 | 21.827 | 22.367 | 18.185 | 18.059 | 13.013 | 12.86 | 53.025 / 53.286 |
| 15 | 22.394 | 22.715 | 18.533 | 18.934 | 13.021 | 12.628 | 53.948 / 54.277 |
| 17 | 22.27 | 22.582 | 18.558 | 18.492 | 13.466 | 12.876 | 54.294 / 53.950 |
As you can clearly see Stewart was making up a ton of time in the first segment, but Villopoto was able to reel Stewart back in in the next two segments. The segment times indicate that Stewart gained nearly two seconds there on the second lap, then about a half second through there in other laps. We looked at the later laps to see if RV had adjusted, but as you can see he wasn’t able to figure out the section, allowing Stewart to continue to open the gap en route to the win.
Meanwhile, Villopoto was a little bit quicker around the rest of the track, which put their lap times at nearly a standstill.
James Stewart set the fastest lap of the night in Dallas.
Simon Cudby photo
250SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 2 | 53.920 | 7 | 54.675 | Dean Wilson |
| 2 | 1 | 454.018 | 4 | 54.682 | Wil Hahn |
| 3 | 3 | 54.200 | 6 | 55.112 | Marvin Musquin |
| 4 | 4 | 54.392 | 6 | 55.702 | Blake Wharton |
| 5 |
5 | 54.577 | 7 | 55.588 | Jeremy Martin |
| 6 | 6 | 54.826 | 2 | 56.719 | Justin Hill |
| 7 |
8 | 55.551 | 6 | 56.883 | Kyle Peters |
| 8 | 7 | 55.785 | 6 | 56.837 | Gavin Faith |
| 9 | 13 | 56.039 | 4 | 57.552 | Cole Thompson |
| 10 | 10 | 56.197 | 4 | 57.536 | Zach Bell |
| 11 | 9 | 56.308 | 7 | 57.346 | Vince Friese |
| 12 | 11 | 56.385 | 5 | 57.701 | Mitch Oldenburg |
| 13 | 12 | 56.429 | 6 | 57.878 | Lance Vincent |
| 14 | 16 | 56.466 | 6 | 58.366 | Gareth Swanepoel |
| 15 | 14 | 56.502 | 5 | 58.357 | Jimmy DeCotis |
| 16 | 15 | 57.112 | 7 | 58.487 | Steven Clarke |
| 17 | 18 | 57.432 | 5 | 59.043 | AJ Catanzaro |
| 18 | 20 | 58.335 | 3 | 59.662 | Jackson Richardson |
| 19 | 19 | 58.603 | 3 | 1:03.002 | Kurtis McCabe |
| 20 | 17 | 58.611 | 3 | 1:01.174 | Adam Gulley |
250SX
- For the second consecutive week Dean Wilson would set the fastest lap in 250SX. He logged a 53.920 on lap 7.- Wil Hahn and Wilson were the only two 250 riders to set all their laps under 56-seconds.
- Hahn set an intense early pace with his first thirteen laps under 55-seconds-the best in 250SX.
- If Blake Wharton seemed off the leaders pace in Atlanta, it's because he was. Wharton's seven laps in the 56-second range were the most among the top-five finishers.
- Jeremy Martin made a statement in Atlanta with a fifth in his first SX race (missed the main in Dallas). J-Mart's first nine laps were all under 56-seconds.
- The latest fastest lap of the night belonged to four riders: Dean Wilson, Vince Friese, Jeremy Martin and Steven Clarke all set their fastest lap of the night on lap 7. Wilson topped the group, followed by Martin, Friese and Clarke.
- Marvin Musquin set a fast pace early, as his first thirteen laps were under 56-seconds.
Comparison:
Wil Hahn vs. Dean Wilson
Two title contenders went head-to-head in Atlanta, with Wil Hahn withstanding the pressure of capturing his first win, and points leader Dean Wilson breathing down his neck. Let's dig a little deeper and see where Hahn made, and lost ground.
| Lap | Wil Hahn | Dean Wilson |
| 2 | 54.919 | 55.270 |
| 3 | 54.306 | 55.152 |
| 4 | 54.018 | 54.538 |
| 5 | 54.367 | 54.042 |
| 6 | 54.772 | 54.813 |
| 7 | 54.146 | 53.920 |
| 8 | 54.254 | 54.113 |
| Avg | 54.397 | 54.549 |
| 9 | 54.46 | 54.307 |
| 10 | 54.374 | 54.439 |
| 11 | 54.649 | 55.393 |
| 12 | 54.829 | 54.814 |
| 13 | 55.235 | 55.286 |
| 14 | 55.835 | 54.583 |
| 15 | 55.394 | 54.783 |
| Avg | 54.968 | 54.800 |
Hahn was firing on all cylinders early, which helped him open a small gap over Wilson with his first two laps in the 54-second range compared to Wilson's 55s. Wilson struck back on lap 7 with a scorcher (53.92) to reel Hahn back in. But the bridge Hahn built early was able to withstand the pressure. Wilson continued to close the gap over the next two laps, but Hahn once again held strong and widened the gap with two strong laps on 10 and 13. Wilson was actually faster than Hahn in the second half of the race, but Hahn's early start proved too much for Wilson to overcome.
Wilson set the fastest lap of the night in 250SX.
Simon Cudby photo
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really interesting stuff!!
Barcia was faster than Canard, list needs double checked
Yeah Dungey.... 666.... 6th place, 6th fastest lap and on lap 6.....Gotta thank the man above....
Possibly the most consistent JS7 race ever.... Someone will find a negative out of his stats.....
I find it quite interesting that rv did not jump the same Rytham section as did James. James rode strong and did what he had to do to win, he used it to his advantage. Rv also played it smart and didn't risk it, I would of liked to c a nice battle but it just never materialized, just not used to seeing rv not hanging it out, settling sucks!
One of the rare occasions when the fastest average 250 lap time didn't win the main event!
The field is super stacked. Wow. Not to take anything away from Stewart, he rode a great race, but I know where RV was going with his post race interview. If he did push his limits and made a mistake, he could easily finish 9 th at best. And thats a lot of points in a title chase. When you have the likes of JS, TC, RD, CR, ET, DM, JB all going within a second, it's not that easy to pass those guys with the limited tracks we have this year. I'm sure if James was in a title chase he would do the same. Consistency is the theme of'13 SX season. Ask Millsapa. Gone are the days of two fast guys who could charge to the top from dead last. Now we got 8!!! Lets start outdoors!
Millsaps......
@ Bigbear1000r
RV was off and that's all there is to it. These lap times further prove it. He was 7th fastest in qualifying, didn't ride well in his heat and now we see he was 5th fastest in the main event??? When was the last time he wasn't 1 or 2 in lap times in a main?
All the more credit for his 2nd when he was obviously off pace all day. I've never known RV to lack courage or confidence on a bike so I'm guessing they were struggling with set-up. That's how I see it.
C'mon guys... 21.904 vs 23.1 is not two seconds! Stuff after the decimal does mean something you know.
Wow... Reed is 1.8 seconds off the pace...
JS FMOP
Looking at the segment times RV was faster than JS everywhere but the rythym section - BUT - JS made so much time there not only was his fastest lap faster but his average as well - So america the next time RC tells you the rythym sections is where the race is going to be won listen the f%#K UP!
After looking back at it again....I think RV's response has to do with the way pinhead Bates approached him and the way she asked the question... It was more of a " James just smoked you...now what " approach rather than a " Hey 2nd place tonight,one spot ahead of Sap, how did you feel out there".... Bates or whomever is whispering into her headphones tries to dig for more drama than what was actually there..... Yes, very smart ride for RV and he gave credit to James....The "not worried about James" portion wouldnt have come out of his mouth had Bates not have said what she did.....Its like he had to defend himself or something
@billc - Poking the fire...hahahaha
Listen to the pulpmxshow from last night..Stewarts last comment regarding RV was pretty interesting...
Southwick - BTOP!!
BillC-- didnt start anything did he?? Doesnt that stand for Fastest man of practice!!!
But in all honesty--this is a very tight field-- I dont pay much attention to the one fast lap stuff--the average lap time is what I look at, and they are very close.. Stewart RV and Millsaps were all within about a half second for 20 laps.. That is unheard of.. And makes this pretty exciting, but also shows what everyone has been saying all season, The start will mean everything..
@therealmofo ,,, Really?? The starts mean everything? WOW,, no one here knew that until now,, hahahah..
@therealmofo ,, Now that's what I call "contributing."
@therealmofo ,, Before you blow a gasket,, I'm just messin' with ya..
Top 6 average lap time within 1/2 sec. dam
WOW just saw the JS/RV avg time, talk about close!!
LOL therealmofo stating the obvious!! I think he yelled at me for that last week. also jokeing around so don't flip out mofo.
.Yes Killomoto...yes i was LOL.
.dinosaurmedia..What did JS say???
@mxmofo again Trolling and trying to insult and start crap.. Typical...
@BillC-- I know its awesome, there are at least 5 or 6 guys right at the same speed, its unreal.. The St. Louis track looks very different, so lets hope it makes for some good close racing, and passing..
As close as the laps times were, hopefully we can see them swapping some paint come next weekend. But it was a good ride for James and Ryan.
The field is no more stacked now thAn it has ever been. Easy tracks, torquey heavy bikes, narrow lines has made for tracks that EVERY rider can do. Josh Hill does every obstacle the rest does so when your in the air 80% of the race, where is time made?
Generally speaking, tracks used to get extremely rough requiring fitness like an outdoor track. SX quite simply has become a science of riding mistake free for 20 laps and staying smooth.
Rethink the tracks please and rethink the bikes. At this point oval track racing is more fun to watch.
Widen that shi$ up, make 180 turns with 3 ruts deep, make inside lines slower by adding a hump, make whoop sections BIG an long, make a huge flat wall in the middle of nowhere to disrupt timing, let holes and ruts and bumps form, for god sales do something before I start watching women's collegiate water polo instead!!!!!!
Therealmofo I REALLY hope we see some passing this week other than the 800 going backwards!! was there any passes after lap 2 last week??
@BillC-- I know, I dont think I saw any except guys like 800 going the wrong way.. I think my 19 year old could beat him at supercross, LOL!!1 I'm not sure how anyone else feels, but I could stand to see a real tricky track.. one that really separates the top guys..
@therealmofo,, "insult." I think your short term memory strikes again.. Get an MRI, then go get your blown gasket fixed..
@ dinosaur
yep that was interesting...was a good interview until the end. RV at no point said he wasn't racing James nor did he say he let him win! RV said 'when James is out front it's tough' and 'James isn't my concern'...both honest answers.
Now, as much as I'd love to see RV close up the points on DM and make this interesting, what I'd really like is RV to DNF this weekend, eliminate himself from title contention and go to the gate the following week with nothing to lose and no pressure, same as Bubba! JS would quickly change his tune. He's no different than his fans....totally spun RV's interview out of context to create drama.
MXMofo has put 5 post on this thread, and 4 of them are to me or about me--can anyone else say "Creepy" or get a life..
@Jordan--he is trolling again!!!!!
@ ripdown
Looks like RV is playing mind games with bubba. Not the first year he does that. We could have some drama in this sport. Lol
Where's jlaw??? Lol
FMOP = Flailing Monk Offends Poto
22 motorsports is changing its name .......... tootoo motorsports . never seen reed go backwards the way he did at ATL. what is going on with that guy?
@motoguzzi--lets not forget he is coming off a severe injury, nobody sems to remember that, and he is 30 years old.. Nobody seems to remember that either...But he is 5th in points, its not like he is getting killed, heck he is ahead of Stewartby 27 points, he is doing alright.. But I guess after the last few years he has had, everyone expects him to be fighting for the title..
@billc - to answer your question to dinosaur - at the end of the pulpmx interview with JS last night, James said 'well according to some guys they aren't concerned with me.' He was just being a smartash, he has already said that he can't win the title, so he's basically agreeing with RV.
Thanks motodog77.
.bd200 the injury was minor compaired to what Canard went thru!! and don't forget JS is hurt also and had TWO DNF's one when Reed/Grant took him out and one when his bike broke one the line so the 27 point's Reed has on him is not the wholes story, JS has been riding WAY better then Reed. Bottome line is what I said before the year started. Big Crashes stay in Reed's head a lot longer than others then you add his age to it and well he might be stutting it down sooner than later. I never count him out but boy is he off the pace and showing no sign's yet that he is fnding it.
Yes I understand Stewies problems, but those big crashed in those first turns affected Reeds points also..Just not a DNF--but his reluctence to hang it out is showing.. Plus he cant seem to come to grips with the air forks lack of feedback and feel.. Which is a real issue, I read a story from RV's mechanic saying it doesnt have the traditional feel as the normal forks did. I dont think Reed is trusting it and wont hang it out--showing his age.. He needs to sign Savagty to an outdoor contract and Manage the team from the pits outdoors I'm afraid.. If he cant run the pace in supercross, he will never run with these guys outdoors.. I hope he figures it out..
Atlanta offered a few places to pass..Just ask the 6 guys who passed Reed..What makes the passing difficult is the guys only being seperated by c-hairs on on the laptimes....RV and Stew were pretty darn close to dead even...forget about who was faster here or there, they were pretty even overall....making up time is one thing and then being able to make a pass is another....
The pulp interview with Stewart was pretty good...Stewart is a joker and people rip him up about it...the discussion about the 10year old at Dallas was pretty telling of what Stewart has to deal with.....
@bd200 - I dont think anyone forgets about Reeds injury....At A1 press conference - Reed said he was 100% and was dogging everyone about being "so serious"...all Reed wanted to do is go race and forget about the "circus"....I think he was overconfident coming into the season and its been a reality check since the gate dropped at A1....
@ Chase, You need to get a job, you are now spending more time on the lap info than I do! Oh you are getting paid for it(Ihope) I still liketo figure all of it out also!
@Welker: Thanks. Luckily I'm a full-time employee at Racer X, so, yes I do get paid to do the articles I write.
Chase
KilloMoto: You are truly an idiot...