Who Does Daytona Favor Most?
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PrintWho does Daytona favor most?
Davi Millsaps 579 votes - 5.9%
Ryan Villopoto 3237 votes - 33.2%
Ryan Dungey 833 votes - 8.5%
Trey Canard 117 votes - 1.2%
Chad Reed 958 votes - 9.8%
Justin Barcia 438 votes - 4.5%
James Stewart 3477 votes - 35.7%
Other 108 votes - 1.1%
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this is a tossup between RD, JS, RV, they are all strong outside, frankly I am seeing JS and RV going at it again.
I also see JS and RV going one - two,,, but RV being at least 15 seconds behind..
@mofo, you should quit foing your mo.
@SpeedShifter ,, hahahah,, we'll see...
Indeed Davidl _I see #1 and #7 upfront at Daytona....Once all the drama settled in STL, they were still the two top dogs, two weeks in a row...I think since Daytona has a little "outdoors" mixed in....RV is looking to show they boys what they may be in for this summer.... Stewart has had impressive speed at Daytona..2011 he was amazing until the crash then last year the win in the mud...it will be a great race..
Musquin will take the 250 main
I'm a RV fan but RV had NOTHING for JS in 11 til the crash and I am wondering how aggressive JS will be, normally once the gate drops its all adrenalin and 100%
JS is racing for $ and wins , RV is going for the championship and wants every win badly.
R u kidding me? RV1 most, check his outdoor and recent dominance. JS7 next or toss up with RD5... It's more of an outdoor track and always a chance of rain and slop. KW14 can't win this one (retired) but I'd love to see him race this every year!!
I think JS is fastest at Daytona, however we don't know how his fitness is. It should be awesome, I would love to see Canard kick RV's ass like he did in 08.
Also I heard Roczen is racing the 450's. Hope he and Tomac step it up at Daytona.
I WILL BE THERE..........
i think rv will win, the riders that it will favor are rd5 rv2 js7 not so sure about millsaps and reed. man stewarts starts are great now that practicing really paid off
I think Bubba is going to be the man to beat. He is always fast at Daytona and I think the track fits his riding style very well. But I also think poto is going to be very strong because I feel his corner speed is the fastest in the world and he is also very good at outdoor tracks. If Bubba gets the holeshot and RV is outside the top 5 I will be surprised if he doesn't win. However, I think if RV and Bubba can start 1-2 in either order we will have a great race on our hands
could it have ben that the reason millsaps has ben winning is bc of the easy slick tracks? we will see since the dirt is supposed to be better in the east
731chopper i think if theres a battle between rv and js rv will come out on top bc js will be pushing to hard and make mistake or just crash. poto seems to ride the edge better this year. i will be holding my breath in fear of js crashing if rv is behind him in second or if js is trying to catch rv, i think he will be riding over his head trying to catch rv
@villaslowdoh,, "poto seems to ride the edge better this year." Seriously???
mxmofo1 yeah ur right but i think poto has got the bike issues straightened out now. yes he did have his problems earlier. should have put a little more thought into that sentence
I don't think RV was riding the edge very well at the beginning of the season at all. However in the past couple of weeks he has been and with his bike setup in St. Louis he looked as strong and aggressive as ever. Its no secret he has been chasing front end feel this season but it seems like with those new clamps he finally found it which is not good news for the competition. He looks to be the strongest rider right now but I still think Bubba will be the man to beat Saturday.
The whoops at Daytona after turn one are going to be INSANE!!!!
I predict that somebody is going to land right on his melon-chompers at Daytona.
The Daytona track is SICK!! the first whoop section is like a half a mile long!! LOL and like Killo said it starts right out of turn one!! REAL long start straight also. Starts on the pavment!! I hope they put the dirt down real think!!
http://www.motoxaddicts.com/2013/03/04/2013-daytona-supercross-animated-track-map/
hell yeah, now thats a track. they got a crazy dragons back thing also
Come Daytona, you can damn well bet that if RV starts 2nd to Stewart that RV will win and Bubba will look p.o'd on the podium cause it will be week number 2.
Stewart will not run with RVs fitness for 20 laps. RV is on, James is just along for the ride.
This isn't some easy slick track iwth no obstacles or whoops, this is Daytona, it will be rough and fast. No one will hang with RV's fitness.
persona this track looks like it might show stewarts fitness as in not being as good as poto's because of how rough it looks. i think st louis may have shown his fitness to
I would love to see Dungey get a holeshot this weekend. Most likely will be a showdown between RV and JS. I still have questions about Stewies fitness - definitely not up to RV's standard. Chad is a beast at Daytona and Millsaps is good there, as well. Barcia won it last year on a 250 in the mud, Tomac is fast on outdoor tracks, as is Canard. Too many fast guys. Easiest thing to say is "It will come down to the start."
wow ! looks like I should get my tickets now !!!!
How are people still doubting Stewarts fitness? He has run both main events in the last two weeks with ease. Same doubters when he raced outdoors last year and he won 4 motos straight at 30 minutes + 2 laps. Hes fine. And persona, have you not watched daytona the last few years? He struggles. Or like last year, goon rides in the mud.
Sick track, looks to have jumps and sections that will seperate those that can turn fast and those that are good at fast technical tracks!!! Can't wait.
toothperry im not saying his fitness is not good just not as good as poto
Persona - I wouldn't say it's RV fitness that sets him apart - it's his speed and killer instinct i.e. when he get's behind a dude, they know about it! And he passes them straight away. Fitness-wise all the top guys (Dungey, Reed, Villo, Stewart, Millsaps etc) are probably on par. I don't see this race being won on fitness. Mental fitness however...RV has it.
preston but if he wins he will retire with more money
I picked RD because his success with outdoors last year. Whats interesting is that RD, CR and RV all specifically said they found settings that helped them. It will be cool to see how well DM runs at this track with his newfound speed. Good stuff no matter what next weekend.
Not sure how you can question his fitness either but you can certainly question his consistency. And toothperry if you are going to pick on Villopoto's goon moment last year how about we even the score with Bubba's goon moment 2 years ago...
RV 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EQtGFUhQpM
Bubba 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtr-hl_ePOY
I'm not trying to be mean and obviously Bubba clowned it up because he was a little rattled from his crash but he shouldn't have crashed in the first place which goes back to the consistency thing.
And I'm not sure how RV historically struggles at Daytona seeing how he has won it twice in the past 3 years...
IF RD's bike is right, he will win Daytona while the 2 egos (the leprechaun and Stew baby) lose focus and race each other. Watch out for Barcia also...
James will crash in practice.
Melon-chompers hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
@ RCRDDW
Why do you even bother posting?? Your guy is hard pressed to get top 5's right now....JS and RV can play cat and mouse all night and still finish 1-2...
My long shot wood B Bam Bam. Wood luv 2 see Poto run down Stewy again
I went to the archives and found this for the last four years:
2012 Daytona results
1 JS
2 DM
3 Kdub
4 Musquin
5 RV
6 Alessi
7 Weimer
8 Tickle
9 Goerke
10 Metty
2011 Daytona
1 RV
2 CR
3 RD
4 Shorty
5 DM
6 Brayton
7 Kdub
8 Kroc
9 JS
10 Alessi
2010 Daytona
1 RV
2 RD
3 TC
4 Kdub
5 DM
6 Hahn
7 Wey
8 Chisolm
9 Hill
10 Morais
2009 Daytona
1 CR
2 JLaw
3 DM
4 Alessi
5 Kdub
6 RV
7 JS
8 Shorty
9 Sipes
10 Hahn
If I awarded the point system to these racers for these last 4 years (1st-25, 2nd-22, etc) this may be a good predictive factor for how Daytona looks. Remember CR ad RD missed two of these years and JS and Alessi missed one. So if you were to factor in at least 20 points per race for CR and RD their total would be right in there with RV, JS would be close to DM.
RV 81
DM 74
Kdub 68
JS 51 (3 races)
Alessi 44 (3 races)
CR 47 (2 races)
RD 42 (2 races)
It is a tough call as to who the track favors and probably depends more on the condition of the track. In 2012 it was a mudfest and RV side saddled about 50 feet shortly after the start but moved up to 5th. I would love to see KDub race it one more time.
**In 2008 Kdub won and DM was 2nd, CR 7th, and RD 10th. Who was 3rd you ask...Jacob Marsak!! Canard beat RV in the Lites**
Barcia rides Daytona well and I think Tomac could be strong too. KRoc will be riding the 450 class on a 350 there.
For those who are talking about fitness it is no secret that the most fit guy out there is RD. Milsaps fitness is real strong too. Tomac is really strong. I am not sure RV can keep up with these guys at the end of the race and I know JS and CR can't. We may see Alessi in the top 6.
Davi has a ton of heart and is an excellent rider, I think he will prove he is the real deal and win this race. He got ran into and had a poor start last week and lost a ton of points he can't let RV gain any more points he will turn it around this week..
I would love for daytona to be a double points race! Mix up things
It's no secret RD is the most fit guy out there? You don't think RV can run with Tomac and Milsaps at the end of the race because of fitness? What drugs have you been taking?
This is the first year that Milsaps' fitness hasn't been bad and we are still just racing Supercross so theres still a big question mark there. And Tomac is Mr. wall hitter... did you not watch the outdoors?
Now Daytona and RC did a great job on the layout with some neat sections and a great start... I hope those whoops are deep!....They should make at least 4 of the 17 rounds outdoor type.... ie, Charlotte as one !
Mike Alessi might be a little more comfortable.
I'm wondering how JS's condiitioning will be for Daytona. which gets rough.
KEN ROCzen!???
Nobody is talking about him possibly winning?
He did some serious murdering at the MXON in the sand back in September... he has also been riding well enough this year in SX to have the points lead. He looks SOLID. More solid than any of the 450 guys have n=been all year. My pick is #1 RV #2 Stewart and #3 KROC... any of them could win though... this season is awesome. Can't wait to see how Milsaps does in the sandy rough outdoor race that is Daytona! That might just be RVs secret to the championship.... we will see
The only sure bet for Daytona is that RD is not going to win. Apart from that, RV or JS or DM can do it.
Villo or Stew, and if I am wrong, I owe you ....
Heart says Dungey, head says RV unless he starts outside of the top 10. RV has his mojo back and he's attacking the tracks. On a long track like Daytona he could start 10th and still win. I'll go 1. RV 2. RD 3. DM 4. CR 5. ET
Musquin hopefully pulls his first W in the 250s.
Someone told Stewart there aren`t any worms in sand, so you just know he's gonna go inspectin come Saturday nite, just to see if dats true. In his interview after St Louis, Jamz shook his head, and with a huge grin said, "Dats two races I've kept it rubba down. Dats awesome". Even he can't believe it. LOL.
Anyone see Reedie in that short sand section in St Louis? He's back on form, bikes good, and he loves it down in Florida. Ain't nobody gonna beat dat dude, ´cept maybe Kroc who just loves the loose stuff as well. RV third and Davi 4th.
jw621557 Your not sure if RV can keep up with RD or SAP'S at the end ?? Are you kidding me?? when i read that I LOL!!!!
I just re read it you also say "Tomac is really strong" The tomac that could not keep up with baggett last year?? cuz he got tired?? Dude I don't know where you came up with any of what you said.
LOL I see
731Chopper called you out also.
@ jw621557
One name for you,,'Aldon Baker'
Pretty sure RV is fit enough......if you've watched the one hour special on CBS you'd realize how silly your comment was.
Yes it's Daytona and it's gonna be rough but we're still not talking a 30+2 outdoor here. All the top guys have the stamina to ride hard to the end.....gonna come down to who can ride the most aggressive the longest.
BamBam is gonna win, and celebrate by showing Erin who her daddy is.
Daytona; It is where RC always said the Championship starts to get serious.. The Toughest track of the year should separate the contenders from the pretenders.. The Sensational Seven morphed in to the Great Eight when Tomac jumped up and now adding Roczen its grown into Nasty Nine.. A lot of great talent, plus a great track will equal a great race to watch!!! No matter which rider crosses the finish line first, we the fans, will be the big winners!!!
Stewart is fast at Daytona, has always been the the fastest there, his mistakes have cost him. Even Carmichael had nothing for him there, again it was Stewarts crashes that did him in. But on the Suzuki I think he will be even better. Aslo expect Barcia to shine there. Should be a good one.
Ripdown It could be right around 30min's!! 1:30 lap time would be 30min.
.I am STILL LOL about Rv not being in shape. That is funny. what does that dude base his findings on??
This is where Canard will shine. He's an outdoors guy for sure.
Kroq crashes and takes Dungey out with him ending Dungeys SX title hopes and ruinshis own tital hopes in the West.....
Millsaps' "destroyed arm" takes the win...but it doesnt have a bike or transponder, so it is DQ'd
RV and JS ride way out front.....Reed is crusing back there waiting for Bam Bam to catch him so he can brake check him.....
...could happen .....
Last time out on a 450 outdoors...Canard was carted off the track with femur break #2...He may be a little gun shy on a faster track....hope he makes the podium
@wbill: Consistency without speed is sterile. Speed without consistency is blind.
All the top riders are in shape so that is not going to decide anything at Daytona. Speed and talent will do that so it is between JS and RV the others have no chance unless luck plays a part. RD's speed and starts have not been good so he will try for a podium 3rd at best.
This WILL be awesome !!!
@Claxton. Er, does JS falling down consititute luck in your world? If it does, then I'm 99% certain there are going to be 19 lucky guys out there come Saturday nite.
RV and JS will lead the way again. Now that RV is only 12 points behind I don't think he will push too hard if JS is out front. I also see RV making up another good chunk of points on Millsaps (not 10 but maybe 5-7). I'm going to say JS, RV, JB, RD, and KR for my top 5.
I picked Milsaps cause I'm hoping RV has another shitty race like last year because of last weekends race.
Really? Nobody thinks Millsaps has a shot? I think people are counting his fitness out. Any bad weather and his size, strength and smooth riding will be tough to beat. The man makes very few mistakes.
I think Millsaps has a shot but I don't think he is the favorite to win.
I love getting all of you RV groupies all up in huff. LOL!! If I were you guys I would be embarrassed by the emotions you share about Villadodo. Look, I think the guy is fast, maybe the fastest on certain days but not every day. When he loses you all make lame excuses for him. You all remind me of JS fans.
RV will crash out in Daytona
100% agree with jw621557-2013 niner stardate 3.141828. I thought Stewart and J-Law fans were crazy.
This is the toughest poll question yet. Can't count Milsaps, Dungey, or Barcia out of this one.
It's definitely going to be RV as much as I like Stewart... RV is the man to best and he's on a mission to eat into the #18's points! Just like I saud last wknd the green racer has the luck of the Irish on his side! Daytona often bites the JS7 and he's being smart this yr which is definitely good for him and the sport! And as long as the 7 keeps it on two, stadiums will sell out and that's something you can sink your teeth into!!