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Sign of the Lap Times: San Diego

Tuesday, February 14, 2012 | 1:00 PM

The California swing is now in the rear-view as Monster Energy Supercross heads east to Dallas. But what a way to send say goodbye to Cali!  Just when it looked like Dean Wilson was out of it, he goes out and TOTALLY REDEEMS himself with a win in San Diego, and also gets  help from a season’s worst 20th from points leader Eli Tomac. After sitting more than 20 points back heading into San Diego, Wilson takes a two point lead into the eight week long break before the series returns in Seattle. In the supercross class things are really beginning to heat up, as Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed took off the gloves and threw down in San Diego. Reed used his prowess through the whoops and help from some lap riders to latch onto Villopoto, before making what looked to be a race winning pass. But Villopoto would quickly strike back to regain the lead and hang on for his third win of the season.

Now onto the lap charts to see how it all broke down.

AMA Supercross

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 2
45.610
5
47.279
Chad Reed
2 1
45.674
3
47.247
Ryan Villopoto
3 15
46.496
6
52.025
James Stewart
4 3
47.082
8
48.348
Ryan Dungey
5 16
47.327
3
52.081
Kevin Windham
6 4
47.362
4
49.024
Brett Metcalfe
7 20
47.387
3
56.492
Jake Weimer
8
7
47.965
3
49.825
Davi Millsaps
9 9
48.189
3
50.021
Mike Alessi
10 6
48.199
4
49.452
Justin Brayton
11 5
48.395
8
48.998
Josh Hansen
12 8
48.808
7
49.884
Kyle Chisholm
13 10
49.171
8
50.331
Nick Wey
14
11
49.294
4
50.817
Jason Thomas
15 13
49.337
4
51.196
Weston Peick
16 19
49.345
8
55.884
Kyle Partridge
17
17
49.608
15
52.980
Matt Goerke
18 12
49.645
3
50.821
Cody Mackie
19 18
49.821
14
55.665
Broc Tickle
20 14
50.148
3
51.203
Robby Kiniry

After five straight weeks of making the top of the lap charts his personal kingdom, Ryan Villopoto’s reign as “King of the Lap Charts” has finally come to an end. Chad Reed was finally able to topple the “King” with a blistering pace through the whoops en route to setting the fastest lap of the night with a 45.610.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Brett Metcalfe is starting to find a groove. Metcalfe led his first laps of the season and capped it off with a career best fourth in San Diego. It’s been a trying season for the lone Yoshimura Suzuki rider but he looks to have finally found the right setup under the penetrating California lights.

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Villopoto's streak of setting the fastest lap came to an end, but he took home his third win of the season.
Photo: Simon Cudby


AMA Supercross Lites

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 1
46.933
2
48.669 Dean Wilson
2 20
47.243
5
48.000 Eli Tomac
3 2
47.403
6
48.804 Cole Seely
4 17
48.623
3
53.081 Jason Anderson
5
16
48.634
9
54.189 Marvin Musquin
6
3
48.836
2
49.814 Matt Moss
7 7
48.876
4
50.248 Billy Laninovich
8 15
48.881
4
53.708 Martin Davalos
9 5
48.982
8
50.125 Nico Izzi
10 13
49.105
10
53.159 Max Anstie
11 4
49.191
6
50.045 Gareth Swanepoel
12 6
49.265
11
50.117 Gavin Faith
13 9
49.296
4
51.882 Vince Friese
14 12
49.569
6
52.446 Bruce Rutherford
15 8
49.692
10
50.307 Travis Baker
16 10
49.953
7
51.847 Nick Paluzzi
17 14
50.057
5
53.170
Killy Rusk
18 11
50.167
5
52.525
Kyle Beaton
19 18
50.227
3
54.927
Jean Carlo Ramos
20 19
50.532
7
1:02.374
Scott Champion

We mentioned the Wilson/Tomac points swing in the opening paragraph, so no need to re-hash it here, but another streak of Tomac's washed away on the shores of Southern California -- his five straight weeks atop the lap charts. Wilson was relaxed in San Diego and it showed as he topped the lap charts with a blistering 46.993 -- setting the fastest Lites time of the night.

Eli Tomac wasn’t the only rider to suffer a huge points swing in San Diego. Red Bull KTM’s Marvin Musquin was running inside the top five when he ran into the back of Tomac, all but ending his chances of capturing an SX Lites title. The Frenchman will now move to the East Coast where he will be riding the 350, ala Ken Roczen last year.

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Wilson would bring an end to Tomac's win and fastest lap streaks in San Diego.
Photo: Simon Cudby

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mxmofo1 wrote: 1:07pm February 14, 2012

WOW,, JS and RD were way off pace...

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Yamahauler152 wrote: 1:20pm February 14, 2012

Excellent Dumb and Dumber reference in the opening paragraph...and mxmofo, I'm sure JS would have been in the 47s with his avg time had he not spent all that time laying on the ground pinned to/under his bike. As for RD's times, well, you saw him going through those whoops looking like an Alessi.

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BillC wrote: 1:42pm February 14, 2012

Would love to see the segment times thru the whoops.

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KilloMoto wrote: 1:49pm February 14, 2012

By the main the track seemed pretty one lined in most places except for the whoops, hence how RV and Reed got stuck behind the lappers for so long, no where to pass .....Surprised JS7 didnt pass Dungey quicker than he did, almost seemed like RD5 was holding him up.....JS7 clicked his fastest lap after passing Dungey then crashed...sadly, no surprise there and now James is back in the "spoiler" role unless RV and 22 have some really bad nights......Reed definitly had the edge in the whoops....Shorter guys like RV and Stew are at a little disadvantage when the whoops buck you around as much as they did in SD.

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MX Bob wrote: 1:52pm February 14, 2012

Reed and RV had average times almost the same as RD's best. He and KTM really need to make "some steps in the right direction", and soon. Maybe having a French wing-man will help.

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BD25 wrote: 1:54pm February 14, 2012

BillC you can see them on the AMA Supercross website, under results

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ronniebarnhardt wrote: 1:55pm February 14, 2012

Stewart fans need to just except the fact that he isnt as fast as he used to be. PERIOD!! END OF STORY!!

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uneasy_rider wrote: 1:55pm February 14, 2012

Oh Yeah, and how about Reeds nacnac? Finally someone having a little fun at the races! Everyone is so serious these days!!!!

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mxmofo1 wrote: 2:04pm February 14, 2012

@Yamahauler152,, His crash doesnt have anything to with his BEST lap time. He was almost a full second slower.

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BillC wrote: 2:10pm February 14, 2012

BD25 it must be segment #3 but its not just the whoops I don't think cuz Reeds' best was 9.1 I would like to just see the whoops. Segment #3 Reed was close to a sec on RV .

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Metta wrote: 2:20pm February 14, 2012

What groove is Metty hitting? Almost a full 2 seconds off the top 2? I know he can do better, but JS7 and K-dub handed him this "best finish"

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bermblaster wrote: 2:22pm February 14, 2012

Stewart fans are the funniest group of people out there. the guy clearly has serious issues right now with all his crashes and he lucky he isnt in the hospital by now and all you here is, well, if he wouldnt have crashed, or if he would have got a good start, or if, or if or if he... You guys are comedians!

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BD25 wrote: 2:32pm February 14, 2012

If i read the track map right, seg 3 started at whoop 1 and ended at tripple take off..... but that is a guess..

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Red44 wrote: 2:33pm February 14, 2012

I love the excuse they use when Stewart loses and doesnt crash "He got a bad start". Thats the best one.. But he was slower than Reed and RV1 in this race too. So was Dungey. But any of the top 4 can win given the right track conditions and circumstances. Dont count out any of them when it comes to getting wins. But for the title I have to say its between Reed and RV1 of course, but Dungey has a chance. He is quietly hanging close, waiting for a big mistake from RV1 or Reed. Stewart will get a win here and there, but unless we get a DNF from RV and some very bad luck, he isnt in the title hunt.

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hamncheeze wrote: 2:36pm February 14, 2012

I love the Sign of the Lap Times segments. Look at Hanny, his best lap was only 11 but he managed to stay on the bike and ended up 5th. Also very telling that Reed and RV were averaging laps that were almost as fast as 3rd place RD's fastest lap, as pointed out by MX Bob.

There was a lot made about the KTM's success at Phoenix, mostly from the GOAT and Emig, that the steel alloy frame's flex works so well at keeping the rear wheel hooked up on slippery dirt versus a stiffer aluminum alloy frame. I wonder in the gnarlier whoop sections if the frame is a liability, perhaps the front end is just not torsionally stiff enough to track straight in that situation. Whatever the reason, RD5 looked awful in the whoops on Saturday. Thoughts?

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mxmofo1 wrote: 3:03pm February 14, 2012

@Red44,, I agree, but anything can happen. Those top guys can easily have a bad race or two. We all know that RV can have a "train wreck" as well. JS needs to be near perfect from here on out, but I obviously don't see that happening,,, but you never know.

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JaminGeorge wrote: 3:10pm February 14, 2012

Good obversations guys! I Would say the harder the track layout the further ahead RV and CR are going to be. With the exception on a good night for JS7 and unless KTM can pull a rabbit out of their hat, that bike look tough through the whoops.
BillC those two had to be with in a second of each other throught the whoops,
CR was very consistant there and all night, RV too.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 3:37pm February 14, 2012

A very interesting tweet by CR ---


"CRtwotwo: @DavidVuillemin a bike thats very unfriendly and a rider that wants to push the limits is not a good combo..take your blue hat off and watch"

about 4 minutes ago

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WFO_UFO wrote: 5:24pm February 14, 2012

There's another way that Reed might have meant it- If he had held his ground and just pinned it instead of backing off and letting him by, they might have both gone down. Then it would be a race to see who can get up and going quicker- By allowing himself to get stuffed like that, he couldn't triple out, and then lost the race. A much more extreme example would be Stewart and Reed at Atlanta last year. So- he might be saying If he had wanted it as bad as Villopoto he would have fought harder for it-
It takes two to tangle.

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BillC wrote: 6:09pm February 14, 2012

Thanks BD25, That's a lot of Time reedy was making there then, very impressive

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BillC wrote: 6:11pm February 14, 2012

RCRDDW Thanks too. Reed was almost 1 sec there so that means RV was 1 sec on the reast of the track.

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VISTAJIM wrote: 7:31pm February 14, 2012

@BillC,I think that's where the corner speed makes the difference.

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Bigbear1000r wrote: 7:54pm February 14, 2012



Chad is a really smart racer, he dialed in his bike specifically for that whoop section, other than the whoops the track was easy and pretty even. I'd be really surprised to c him there at the end again. Js7 is always a threat, and as long as the title chase is close in points, these guys r gonna go for it, I hope RD picks it up and js7 doesn't drop it

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Ripdown wrote: 11:48pm February 14, 2012

wow.....I see some of you are still looking at Bubba's bike as the problem! What's it gonna take to get thru to you guys? His bike was fine in practice where he was fastest....and he was second in his heat? Then he lawn darts in the main riding over his head? Pretty sure it's more than the bike guys....but you keep running with the inferior equipment theory if it helps you sleep,,,

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Chilllmatic wrote: 12:15am February 15, 2012

It's not just the fans that are saying it, DV and CR said the same thing. Someone asked Chad on twitter what he thought was wrong, if it was Stewart himself or the bike and Reedy said it was the bike.

"a bike thats very unfriendly and a rider that wants to push the limits is not a good combo"


"Kenny Maddux
Cmon Chad you are the only rider that speaks the truth! Tell what is wrong with James? Him or the bike?@CRtwotwo"

"Chad Reed
@KennyMaddux bike"

Obviously the only person that knows the real issue is Stewart himself but coming from another racer, its much more than just a fans opinion.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 8:11am February 15, 2012

@Ripdown,, Your right, CR has no clue what he's talking about,,, because YOU don't agree with him, right ?????

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Retardcross wrote: 8:50am February 15, 2012

Any other time Reed has an opinion JS fans call him a whiner, but when his opinion favors the bike excuse they'll take it. How convenient. He's not on that bike and you can literally spot the rider error in all of Stewart's crashes if you pay attention. This weekend the whoops were gnarly and JS wasn't patient with them so he got bit, like many others.

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Retardcross wrote: 8:51am February 15, 2012

@ Chillmatic...........Correction, DV thinks the bike is fine.

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Retardcross wrote: 8:52am February 15, 2012

It's not the bike****** huge handi typo

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Red44 wrote: 9:55am February 15, 2012

Its not the BRAND of bike. I think Stewart doesnt know how to properly set up his bike for a particular track. He crashed all over the place on the Kawi too. And still would be crashing on a Kawi now.. His mechanic said Stewart is NOT a very good test rider, He said Stewart tells you what he wants the bike to do, not good at telling you what it is doing.. DV12 says the same. Because he sees Millsaps go through whoops straight as can be. He says they should secretly put Stewarts number on Millsaps bike and not tell Stewart, and he would be surprised.. Its NOT the Yamaha brand, its setup and Stewart going gung-ho riding over hios skill level..

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Chilllmatic wrote: 10:33am February 15, 2012

Red44 said it best. It's obviously not just the bike setup that's gettin. Stewart, but I think it is part of his problems.

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BillC wrote: 10:41am February 15, 2012

Millsaps can go through whoops straight as can be,....Yup but at half the speed and there inlies the problem.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 10:50am February 15, 2012

@ Retardcross ,,, and the same can be said for you. Now reed's opinion doesnt favor YOU, so you don't believe it,, right. Why on God's Green Earth would Reed say the bike is part of the problem ? He had no reason to, plus as far as I know, they really don't like each other that much, so that makes me believe it. I agree that JS may not know how to set up a bike very well.

Its really funny when someone accuses others of doing something while they are doing it themselves and dont even realise it..

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Retardcross wrote: 12:37pm February 15, 2012

Keep calling it the bike all you want, he was yard sale king long before he touched any Yamaha for that matter. I like Reed and RV so I don't really care what lineup of excuses comes out of the JS camp, the results speak for themselves and his own decisions put him where he is.

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Retardcross wrote: 12:38pm February 15, 2012

I guess all of Grant Langston's, Broc Hepler's, Trey Canard's bikes are all crap too, must be the reason they have been crashing their entire careers.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 12:55pm February 15, 2012

@ Retardcross ,, Hey, like it or not, I'm just telling you what Reed said.

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bd200 wrote: 6:58pm February 15, 2012

@BILLC, it looked like Millsaps got through those whoops faster than Stewie, because he stayed up. Stewie crashed all over on his Kawi too,

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