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Racerhead #44

Friday, November 4, 2011 | 5:55 PM

Welcome to Racerhead. It's been a long week. Two funerals, and two days on the road in the southeast in between. As you probably know, we've been on the lookout for a place to hold a round of the American Motocross tour in that part of the country for some time. There are a lot of great tracks and facilities down there, as well as one of the biggest supercross races of all at the Georgia Dome. But it's been since 1997—Ricky Carmichael's rookie year—that an AMA Motocross National has been held in the South, and the hope is to get one there as soon as 2012. So I've been on the phone with a lot of folks, from Charlotte to Orlando, trying to find a place to move a race (and yes, one would have to move, because the schedule as it exists only has room for twelve outdoor nationals). It's been a more complicated process than I imagined, and there's still much to do and see, so stay tuned.

I did finally get to Durhamtown Plantation this week, and I was pretty blown away by the whole scene out there. Lots of tracks and lots of places to ride, as well as some camping spots, an accessories store, bike rentals, and just a great place to go for a motocross vacation with your buddies. And if you're a prospect from up North looking for a place to get some riding in during the upcoming winter, that's definitely a place to check out. It's a bit far off the beaten path for a big race like a national, but it's got a lot to offer a rider of any caliber.

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The semifinalists of the 2011 GoPro/Racer X Amateur Film Festival have been announced, and public voting begins ... now! Each week for the next month, we'll have a one-on-one throwdown between two of the semifinalists.

You can see the first week's competitors here. It’s between Ian Gutierrez and Mike LeGrand. Watch them, vote on your favorite, and if you really love one or the other, drum up some support for them on your social profiles. And remember, you can vote once per day. The winner will advance to the finals, where they'll compete for an awesome prize package that includes stuff from GoPro, Answer, MSR, Pro Taper, and of course Racer X. Good luck, Ian and Mike, and congrats to the other semifinalists.

The big race last weekend was the Bercy Supercross in Paris. I had to skip the event this year but Steve Matthes was there, so let me turn it over to him right here:

As I write this I’m finally feeling 100 percent and ready to go. You see, I was in Bercy last weekend for the SX there, and as anyone can attest, it takes a few days for you to feel better after coming back from overseas. Add in the three nights of racing, the long days, the approximately 98 percent of French people who smoke, and you have a recipe for illness. And that’s what happened to me. The first two days back, I was pretty much done, but as I said, I’m feeling better and back at it.

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Another year, another Bercy, and we learned a lot from this race. For example, Kyle Chisholm is very legit, and hopefully soon he’ll figure out where he’s going to ride in 2012. He only got one win over there, but he was consistently one of the better guys. When it was all over, he was the King of Bercy.

We also learned that Justin Barcia, although very fast and very talented, needs to just think a little more out on the racetrack. I like Barcia—he’s a funny, good kid who’s going to be a star—but he definitely needs to work on controlling his emotions. He and Jake Weimer got taken out on Saturday night, and they did have a right to be upset at Gregory Aranda (conda) for the move, but it was a racing incident and Weimer went back to the pits and commented afterwards, “I should have been in front of [Aranda].” Barcia’s frontier-justice act, while entertaining, wasn’t sportsmanlike. His move cost him a spot in the main event, and that’s not a good thing. He had the fastest raw speed guy in Paris, and even though he DNF’d the first night with broken spokes, he very well could have gone DNF-1-1.

When he was hurt in this year’s supercross series, it might have been the best thing for him, as he was forced to wear a wrist brace and ride within his limits. And guess what? His limit was very, very high. My point is he doesn’t need to get into block-pass battles with Dean Wilson or wait for Aranda out on the track - he’s fast enough to win whenever he puts a tire to the track without all that other stuff. I know he apologized to Aranda for what he did, but trust me when I say there are lots of other competitors that are tired of “Bam-Bam” coming out here and there.

He’s working with six-time champion Jeff Stanton, and one would think Stanton will help him immensely in this area. Jeff’s mantra was always “Leave it out on the track,” and his epic battles with Damon Bradshaw never crossed the line into T-bones and takeouts.

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Kyle Chisholm took home the 2011 King of Bercy crown.
Photo: Sarah Gutierrez

Eli Tomac was tied in points with Chisholm going into the last day, and between the Monster Energy Cup and Bercy, he proved he can ride a 450 well. He’s got two more years on the 250s, so we won’t see him for a while, but rest assured he’ll be one of the good ones.

Good to talk to Broc Glover, Ron Lechien, Jean-Michel Bayle, Sebastien Tortelli, and Danny Laporte in Bercy. All these guys plus Jacky Vimond were at the race as guests of JT Racing, and there was even an introductory press conference on Saturday morning. I was the only English-speaking journalist there, the 45-minute presentation on JT Racing’s business plan was in French, and I didn’t learn a whole lot. JT is coming out with the Dalmatian pants very shortly, as well as some designs more in line with the gear you see today. One thing about the new JT—and they’ve had a few hiccups along the way—is that the quality of the product is top-notch, and you can see that.

I did a podcast with James Stewart this week and it was a great interview with JS7. He doesn’t do a ton of this stuff and I appreciate the time he carved out for me to talk about his new ride at JGR Yamaha. It should be very interesting to see how he’s going to do on the new (old) blue machine. Whatever you think of him, listen to this show and see if it changes your mind.

The Pulpmx Show, after two weeks off, is back this coming Monday with myself and Kenny Watson hosting, and we’ll figure out the guests shortly but I do feel like Chisholm deserves a spot on for his rides.

And by the time you read this, the Toronto Maple Leafs may be sitting atop the Eastern Conference standings for the first time in about fifteen years. They’re off to a ripping start and this makes me very happy. I’ve got to go now and start planning the parade route.

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Last night Troy Lee opened his second retail outlet, this one in Laguna Beach in a swanky section of town. Of course most of Laguna is swanky, so I guess that goes without saying. Troy is expanding his clothing lines, Troy Lee Designs Sports—the tees, sweatshirts, hats, shorts, and jeans that you would find in motocross dealerships and also his premium brand, the Steve McQueen Collection. That stuff is very high-end and very cool. If you haven't seen the new casual line, check out www.troyleedesigns.com. There were a lot of TLD friends and famous folks at the grand opening last night. Malcolm Smith, Bruce Brown, the entire TLD race team, Jeff Ward, Jake Zemke, and even Fox morning news reporter Jillian Barberie turned up to support the opening. The boutique also doubles as a design studio for several staff members, and it is simply one of the coolest buildings around. If you are ever in the Laguna area, stop by and check it out.

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I bumped into a few guys out at the test tracks this week. Brett Metcalfe was doing some testing with Showa, and he seemed very happy with the way the new Suzuki\Yoshimura effort was going. Metty looked great during his testing, and he will likely have another impressive year. With Rockstar and Makita both leaving and Yoshimura taking over, it will be interesting to see what the team graphics look like and who, if anyone, steps in to fill those spots.

Ryan Morais was also getting his first laps in aboard his Star Racing/Valli Motorsports ride. Ryan has done a couple rounds on a 450 before but this will be his first full season in the premier class. So far, Ryan is happy with things at Star/Valli. The two teams are merging for 2012 with Bobby Regan taking the lead as team owner. It sounds like Doug Schopinsky will remain as manager and Valli owner Chad Lanza will be more of a silent partner on the team. Morais will be joined by Austin Stroupe and Nico Izzi on 450s and the team will have four Lites riders as well. They will use one semi for supercross and then split and run two semis for the motocross series. Ryan Sipes, Kyle Cunningham, Gareth Swanepoel, and Kyle Peters will be the 250 riders there.

Okay, we will wrap it up with some random notes:

There's actually a GNCC going on today, as the series had to make up a rainout, and they chose to do a Friday-Sunday doubleheader at Loretta Lynn's Ranch—the race that was rained out in the first place! We will have a race report later on.

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Can Charli Mullins hang on at Loretta's?
Photo: Shan Moore

Old-school motocrossers like to talk about "the good old days" and how things were so much different, so much rougher, so much better back in their day. Sometimes it's just exaggeration, like discussing how crazy rough Southwick used to be, not realizing it's still pretty damn rough today. But then I stumbled across this old video of the 1977 Florida Winter-AMA Series race at Gatorback Cycle Park in Gainesville, featuring Danny LaPorte (7) and Broc Glover (17) dicing it out. Both would go on to Hall of Fame careers, but this was them getting ready for a new season the way a lot of people did back then: by going to Florida and riding in the rough stuff. Check out this video.

What really jumps out to me is how much sand there used to be at the famous old limestone pit known as Gatorback. Back then it really was much rougher!

Sadly, motocross is not the only sport where former athletes and stars sometimes find themselves in dire straits. After denying for three years that he had a problem after failing a random drug test, Jeremy Mayfield washed up on a police blotter in North Carolina with a house full of stolen good and enough meth to kill a horse.

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Here's a late-breaking PR from Kawasaki:

Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. has named Dan Fahie to manage its highly successful Monster Energy Kawasaki supercross/motocross program. Fahie becomes team manager following a year in which team member Ryan Villopoto claimed both the AMA World Supercross and AMA Motocross championships as well as being a member of the winning Motocross of Nations team and claiming victory at the inaugural Monster Energy Cup.

We’ll get more into that announcement next week.

Finally, those funerals.... Nancy Cernic was the mother of my lifelong friend Jeff Cernic, of Cernic's Racing and PAMX and Pleasure Valley Raceway and more. She was 77 years old. And then there was my first cousin, Lynnette Ryan Hare, who was a longtime scorer at all of our local races before she started her own family. She was 54 years old. Godspeed to Mrs. Cernic and my cousin Lynnette; both were very good people.

Thanks for reading Racerhead. See you at the races.

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The Conversation

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james852 wrote: 6:23pm November 4, 2011

hollie mollie.......damn im good!

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wrote: 6:57pm November 4, 2011

" Barica needs to THINK a little on the track.".....hmmmm didn't Dungey say something pretty similar after Dilla'...Barcia is fun to watch ride no doubt, but after watching that Bercy clip, that statements of " gaining respect" and " thinking" is spot on.....That French kid did nothing wrong...nor on purpose.....How many people have Barcia, I'm sorry " bam bam" which Barcia actually used it as a verb in his interview which is even more pathetic, how many people has he recklessly taken out by mistake.....that was silly and I hope the HONDA boys talk to him....Dungey is right...GROW UP ...and if your going to purposely go run a guy off the track, don't run away when he comes to pound you into the dirt....

Matthes - Although I have some love for the Leafs, its a little early to celebrate!! Way better than last year, but your only 10 games into the season....Watch out for those Oilers....Capitals are going to the finals in the East.

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james852 wrote: 7:03pm November 4, 2011

my hollie was so good...that it reminds back in the day...after the second turn (180 u-turn) i was exciting turn 2 as the whole pack was braking for it.....damn i am and was good! and remember the time..............

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lucky_7 wrote: 7:45pm November 4, 2011

I wonder what track will get cut from the outdoors....

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bd200 wrote: 7:46pm November 4, 2011

Hmm!!, I know of another top rider who could do a little THINKING on the track, who has taken out more riders than anyone. How many has this other rider taken out by mistake??

And Davey, if you have to move a race to go to the Southeast, TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE ANAHEIM RACES, THERE ARE ENOUGH WEST COAST ROUNDS....

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mxrob43 wrote: 8:06pm November 4, 2011

How about having a National go back to Lake Sugartree in Axton, Va.

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KilloMoto wrote: 8:13pm November 4, 2011

BD- he is talking about nationals....not SX.....Stewart had his fair share of crashes....but he never acted like Barcia did....Barcia seems to do things on purpose while JS7 may tend to over do it.....intentional and accident are 2 different things.....

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timi wrote: 8:31pm November 4, 2011

james 852 - i saw you crash in the second turn

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timi wrote: 8:32pm November 4, 2011

you forgot to turn the gas on

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CodyRem wrote: 8:59pm November 4, 2011

DC said over on Vital (many months ago) there was no track being cut. Paraphrasing. Well, I guess if you don't put that track on the schedule isn't it the same thing. It sucks were losing one of the PA rounds. Mt. Morris AND Steel City had great crowds this year. Why take one of those? Unless DC has something else in mind, this sucks. Yea, I know people in the southeast are due for a national down their way. I'm being selfish, I admit it.

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fred wrote: 9:31pm November 4, 2011

@timi, that was funny.Poor old BD200,sometimes he just doesn't have a clue.Bless his heart.I hope they replace the Colorado national.That track sucks and the local fans are goofey.Its like they take Dork pills.

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Moto4Life wrote: 9:53pm November 4, 2011

"How about having a National go back to Lake Sugartree in Axton, Va." I raced there last Sunday and I love that track. But, it doesn't have the level parking the big factory rigs need. And unless they start using the hills around the track, the pros will have 50 second lap times.

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RokTot wrote: 12:39am November 5, 2011

Nice RH #44 and old school video from FLA, aprox 1977 with David Taylor on the DG bike as well, Here is my take on Bam Bam from last weekend good for you! I bet Hannah did not call you up with a problem about it! I have two Colorado story's I've witnessed to share about the same type situation! in 1988 unknown local "BOO" Stichter # 655 holshot both moto's of the Lakewood 250 Nat'l on a heavy stock KTM, held Hannah off for most of the motos and finished top five! after the first moto ended, riding off of the track Boo was T-boned in the pit's by Steve Wise on his factory Honda, cussed out and flipped off as well! racing moment for sure next moto coming up soon no problem. At the 1983 or 84 Lakewood Nat'l on the present track a backmarker (yamaha) crossed over on Billy Liles line in the left hand turn before the first big uphill and after they crossed the first step up Billy pulled into the guy on the right side and rode the rest of the way up the hill one handed with his left hand middle finger out pressed against the guys goggle lens! This stuff aint new, it's just all on video now. Braaaahp

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tonewall wrote: 1:33am November 5, 2011

Mr Barcia , Please use your manners , try to get a poor start and ride around mid pack ,don't get to close to anyone or try a pass , don't get excited and try to win and good lord what ever you do don't cause a scene. What will all the milk toast and tea sipping old women watching moto think if you try the big dirty.....your behavior is shocking just shocking...... and speaking of nationals how about a big EVENT (pros amateurs ahrma minis) in the middle of nowhere like Evel had at snake river (K.C. Okie City Boise)and maybe even use some natural terrain on a motocross track ...also a shocking idea.

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BillC wrote: 7:11am November 5, 2011

I lost all respect for Justin Barcia, What a baby moto!!! Never liked him much before now I realy think he is a punk!! He Starts crap then the guy gets off his bike and JB runs away like a little puss!! Guess he can dish but can't take it. What a little beoootch!!

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endoman38 wrote: 8:47am November 5, 2011

The good ol' days. No damn fences to keep you away from the track and no damn banners blocking the view everywhere...and suspension that really sucked, but we didn't know any better.

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Eric238 wrote: 9:01am November 5, 2011

Glad to see the Georgia represented. Bring on the national!

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sec114 wrote: 9:08am November 5, 2011

i watched that 77 gatorback clip and was amazed the bikes did not break on that one 20 ft drop to flat they were doing. that would b rough today , but bikes back in 77!! wow!!

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V-O-R wrote: 9:10am November 5, 2011

What is up with this bd200 cat?? I've noticed that almost no matter what the topic is or who it is about, that guy brings it back to JS!! You are a d-bag man and it sounds like you may need to seek a little counseling for your obsession with Stewart....you knob!!

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bd200 wrote: 9:34am November 5, 2011

@VOR, first of all I never mentioned Stewie once, and secondly you ask what is up with me?? When every single post you put up is a slam filled with name calling. Have you ever posted withoput calling someone a name and trying to insult?? You are an idiot, and a coward, you are one of those tools who if you was toe to toe, you wouldnt say a word, but are a tough guy on the computer. And what makes you think I was even meaning Stewie in my post?? Idiot.

@Killmoto--whoops, I saw where Davey mentioned Charlotte and Orlando and of course thought supercross, SINCE THEY HAVE BOTH HOSTED SUPERCROSSES IN THE PAST FRED, or did you Mr. Perfect not know that??

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oar23 wrote: 10:00am November 5, 2011

How about MUDDY CREEK for that southern national

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bigtireguy wrote: 10:42am November 5, 2011

still no word on who CR22 is going to sign, or what color he is going to ride? This is getting interesting. who is left to sign?

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fred wrote: 11:40am November 5, 2011

@BD200 the south has the two biggest and best supercrosses of all ,Georgia Dome and Daytona.We don't have a national.Don't worry BD200 I get a kick out of your comments somethimes.If you were not on here I would miss you.

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Welker wrote: 11:46am November 5, 2011

AS always this is another good article. Speaking about how rough some of the tracks were way back in the day they were so rough that there were even whoops in the AIR when you went off the jumps till you landed now that was rough.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 11:52am November 5, 2011

Hm...at first glance I thought the "fan of the week" chick was pregnant and not wearing pants. If you sort of unfocus your eyes a bit--the same trick you use to make a silhouette seem like it's facing toward you and then away from you and then toward you again--and imagine her torso is facing left instead of right, then her thigh looks like a big pregnant belly that can't be contained by her shirt, and her knee looks like a shrunken and misfigured hip. SEE? Weird, right?

Oh, and I'm ready for supercross.

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Welker wrote: 11:57am November 5, 2011

@ sec114, Yes back in the 70 and 80's there were a lot of big dropoff's and great big jumps we would hit WFO and land on flat ground, somtimes the impact did break your wheels or frame.

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Welker wrote: 12:04pm November 5, 2011

Poor Woops Blizter must need some help? then again the fan of the week could be my daughter? I dont have any clue what you are trying to say Blitzer ecept I'm ready for some Supercross.

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924rutsrider wrote: 12:17pm November 5, 2011

Good journalism. Other member's of moto-media take note.....

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tonewall wrote: 12:32pm November 5, 2011

@Wblitzer ,don't see it. Maybe your just dizzy from beatin the dog.

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V-O-R wrote: 1:10pm November 5, 2011

Well, after that waste of a reply bd200 why don't you go ahead and reveal who it is you are talking about then. You are such a dope, i've been reading your posts for awhile on here and just because you don't say the name, it is pretty obvious who you are referring to. SO please do not respond again without disclosing (actually typing) the name of the "top rider" you are referring to!! Oh, and by the way, i would totally say what i am saying on here right to your face, or toe to toe, as you put it!! p.s., don't forget to state the name of the rider you are talking about, inquiring minds wanna know!!

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VISTAJIM wrote: 1:52pm November 5, 2011

Davey,Since there are several worthy tracks for nationals why don't you pick 3 more tracks for a total of 15. Still have 12 rounds but rotate 3 tracks out each year.That would give each track a year off every 5 years.We would not lose any tracks and the promoters could save for the year off or have the NPG work out a revenue sharing plan for the tracks on the off year.I know this would break some tradition,but times change.

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MisterRoboto wrote: 3:31pm November 5, 2011

You just gotta love the silly season! Hope the Star/Valli merger is a good one. For the insiders, I have two questions regarding the 450 class: 1. What teams still have rides available - TwoTwo, McBrooks, Wardy, Suzuki, KTM, etc? 2. Which top guys are still unsigned - Wey, Chisholm, Hahn, Blose, Regal, Albertson, etc? Thank you!

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bd200 wrote: 4:09pm November 5, 2011

@VOR, I really wish you would , I really do..

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V-O-R wrote: 5:43pm November 5, 2011

@bd200, "c'mon just answer the question Claire"........seriously, tell me who you were referring to......do it....puh-leese?? Oh, and you tell me when and where man!!

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Verge wrote: 7:37pm November 5, 2011

You can have Palla back if you need to drop a National. I live here and i'll never go to a national there.

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loose02 wrote: 8:01pm November 5, 2011

i hope they drop freestone that track is so boring elevation changes are where motocross looks it's best. Matthes needs to chill what barcia didn't wasn't even that bad i might be wrong but didnt they have a run in on the track the night before

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 10:25pm November 5, 2011

"I dont have any clue what you are trying to say Blitzer"

"don't see it. Maybe your just dizzy from beatin the dog."

I didn't say it would be easy, guys. I can only show you the door.

Also, if 'beating the dog' is a euphemism for masturbation, then yes, I'm dizzy from beating the dog. wink wink

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wadehenderson wrote: 10:56pm November 5, 2011

At least Barcia does`nt take crap from everyone like the media would like him to.They seem to want everyone to fall in line and have no balls to stand up for themselves.Good for Barcia ,screw all the crybabies!

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BillC wrote: 7:10am November 6, 2011

@wasehenderson... Barcia is the one with no balls. He waited a lap to cut the guy off, Gets in his face on the track. Then he pulls off the track the other guy gets off the tracks too, gets off his bike and goes over to Barcia and what does big mouth barcia do?? Runs away like a little girl!!

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BillC wrote: 7:10am November 6, 2011

I want tickets to the V.O.R/bd200 fight!!

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B-KR wrote: 7:54am November 6, 2011

As for Barcia, he obviously even in his own mind did the wrong thing, so stop defending it. He apologized, which means he admits wrong doing, so stop saying there's nothing wrong with it. As if his move "proved" anything? The ONLY thing it did prove is that he can dish it out but can't take it. Then it further proves that he is a wimp as he pulled anchor and ran from Aranda. See how Weimer responded for an example of professionalism. Want to be an Amateur? Rip up the contract, return the sponsors' money, and you can go run people off the track all day long. Expect for the other Amateurs to hunt you down and punch you out though.

And RokTot....1988, Steve Wise, Factory Honda??? Something doesn't add up there.

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Randyhutchings wrote: 8:20am November 6, 2011

I'm suprised that no one has mentioned Monster Mountain in Alabama. Hands down the nicest track I've ever seen. They would need to work on the parking but I think it could be done. The track would be great for TV, you can view most of the track from one position.

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Davey Coombs wrote: 8:43am November 6, 2011

Randy, Monster Mountain is in the discussion, and so is Barber and another place in Alabama that's not actually a motocross track yet. There are actually a lot of options but we haven't been to see everything yet...
DC

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BillC wrote: 11:13am November 6, 2011



@Davey Coombs any chance of an SX in the north east in the next 5 years?? Please.... We have been good!!!

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bigtireguy wrote: 11:13am November 6, 2011

Davey, have you seen the new track built in St. George Utah? Not for National consideration, but a nice track. Good luck on your search.

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CR500AF wrote: 12:25pm November 6, 2011

DC - there is a case to be made for the tracks being rougher back in the day. Take a look at these YouTube videos of Unadilla

'76 Trans Am = http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KHtwJVzwYw4

'77 500 National = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_n2m0N3LpQ

I don't think you see any of the national tracks looking this rough any more. I think it is due to a combination of changes in power delivery ( 2 vs. 4 stroke), suspension performance, and track prep over the years.

There is an argument that the tilling of the track surface has been the biggest factor to smoother tracks today than in the 70's and 80's. Yes, all the mulch and sand that is tilled into track surfaces make the rougher than they would otherwise be, but all the bumps get smoothed out each time the track is tilled. Today's track prep techniques seem to add more ruts than anything else and reduce line formation in corners due to the depth of the ruts.

My $.02

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McMoto wrote: 12:29pm November 6, 2011

'77' / '78 Florida Winter Series had some of the Gnarliest sand tracks I've ever rode. Orlando for instance, the whoops grew so deep that you couldn't see the bike in front of you on some of the straights, it was insane. I rode the 250 expert class on Saturdays before the Pro's rode Sunday. David Bailey was still in our class with one of those Blue "up piped" Bultaco Pursangs (Killed us). St. Petersburg. was the 1 st. national that year ('78), that track was BRUTAL. Hannah won 250's, Barnett won 125's (both on box stock bikes) My 1st Pro race. Doug Demokus (sp) wheelied the whole track on a 450 Maico. It was sick people !

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McMoto wrote: 12:38pm November 6, 2011

CR500AF, Love that old Unadilla footage just graduated H.S.and was starting my own "pro dreams" I turned out to be much a better wrench than rider but I gave it a shot. Still, I've never seen rough like Florida sand. Lommel(sp) boys better be on their game at this years MXoN.

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CR500AF wrote: 1:24pm November 6, 2011

McMoto - never had the chance to ride in Florida. Ridden sand in New England and the mid-Atlantic. Hard pack rough is definitely different that sand rough. Always seemed to me that you could get a decent rhythm going in the sand - line choice was more important on hard pack.

Agree - This years MXdN in Lommel will be interesting.

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McMoto wrote: 2:45pm November 6, 2011

CR, we've spoke through posting before. I was born & raised in Dist. 34, Started racing in '72 on a Harley Baja scrambling with trials tires. Great memories.

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CR500AF wrote: 2:54pm November 6, 2011

McMoto = that's right. Enjoying the early snow out there?

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tonewall wrote: 5:01pm November 6, 2011

@wblizt I believe it was you that commented on actually beating your dog till you tired out...was'nt funny then isn't funny now, sorry about the non moto comment but it struck a nerve.

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WFO_UFO wrote: 9:12pm November 6, 2011

Doug Domokos aka "the wheelie king". I heard that he passed on a while back but what a talent. He was running a kx around red bud on the back wheel before he went national. At the supercross too. Had some kind of motor on the front wheel that kept the wheel turning all the time, acting like a gyro-scope. And the number one on his side plates were tilted so that they were vertical while he was wheelie-ing. Very entertaining!

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CZmark wrote: 10:24pm November 6, 2011

@WFO UFO- yes Doug was amazing, watched him at Saddleback years ago wheelieing around the track, so cool. Also another thing he had was a round cage like a ball with an ATC inside, riding around the the speedway track at Costa Mesa.




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CZmark wrote: 10:31pm November 6, 2011

@CR500AF- great links, I going to have to watch more. I raced Carlsbad and Saddleback in the 70's and those tracks were tough, especially when you had a whole lot less travel in your suspension. But you made a good point there.

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Welker wrote: 11:24am November 7, 2011

@ czmark, since you were racing in southern CA in the 70's you might be able to answer this question for me or maybe find the answer? In 1976 or 77 there was a guy that showed up from CA and raced against us at ST Peters MO and a couple of other tracks in the summer for 3 weeks. He said he was District 37 AMA, not CRC nbr1 in the 125 expert class. He had a blue honda and of course a nbr 1 plates on his bike. I wonder if you know who he was? just wondering cause I had a couple of ram fests with the guy?

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McMoto wrote: 11:41am November 7, 2011

CR, The snow is "what it is". Its bringing the Elk down at least. N.E. got there ass kicked too I hear. You are correct with the difference in rough between hardpack and sand. A video just doesn't do justice to hardpack roughness, can't put a 'Spine meter' to it. Sand tracks in Florida (to me) were just so out of my league back then. I have ridden Southwick and Millville, hell there are some good sand tracks in Canada too. I guess I was just used to hardpack pot holes and blue groove back in Dist. 34. Good talking to ya bud, I'm still looking for a CR250F chassis for my CR500.

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eastcoast880 wrote: 12:47pm November 7, 2011

@ Davey Coombs-

How about Tomahawk, Durhamtown, Muddy Creek,or even bringing back Gatorback for a Souh East National.

Or even better yet after you guys narrow your search down to 5-10 tracks have a RACER X fan poll to help in your decision for the next national.

Also here in Pittsburgh we have 3 awesome venues for a Supercross- Heinz Field, PNC Park, Console Energy Center.

What can be done to get a Supercross here?

Cali has several and maybe we could get on of them moved to the East?
I dont think we really need 3 Anahiems SX's

Heck we could even have it @ Mylan Stadium in WV if that helps planning it easier on you and getting one over here for us on the East, its been way too many years since the supercross @ 3 Rivers

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inquisitive wrote: 11:38pm November 8, 2011

davey, why can you not add a national? from july 24 to aug. 27th last year there was one race in the middle of those dates. loretta lynns is obviously part of it, and if the people say the riders need a rest for there body that makes no sense because anyone in the top 20 is out doing two 35mn motos almost daily to stay in shape anyways. if that is the reason they should shorten the season from 17 weeks. just because theres no race doesnt mean these guys arent out working there butts off!12 races in a 17 week period is a lot of race time off, not practice time off. the maple leafs started a month ago and if they make it to the stanley cup final the great outdoors of mx will be heading into round four already. talk about a long season! hockey players get the allstar break! thats it! 82 regular season games, then playoffs.if u dont think hockey is physical try going into the corner with todd bertuzzi or chris pronger chasing you down! so please tell me why you would take a race away from a community and facility that has put so much time and effort into making a national track? mx nationals are the coolest thing in the world, why would anyone complain if there was one more! just think of the jobs you would be creating in a new community. thanks

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