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Sign of the Lap Times: Motocross of Nations

Monday, September 19, 2011 | 2:10 PM

Well, it wasn't easy for our boys as they had to scratch and claw their way back from a moto two deficit to bring home the Peter Chamberlain Trophy for a seventh consecutive year. Clutch performances by the Ryans (Dungey and Villopoto) once again proved that we arguably have two of the fastest riders in the world on our side. The Aussies finally broke through and grabbed their first podium at the MXoN, which is hard to believe considering how much talent they have produced over the years. And the French took advantage of home soil to grab second overall. Obviously not what the French and their diehard faithful were looking for, but overall a good result for the boys in blue. You will read plenty about the racing throughout the week, so let's get to the lap times, brought to you by Motion Pro.

Race 1 (MX1 + MX2)

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Rider
1 3
1:44.086
8
Ryan Dungey
2 1
1:44.129
7
Chad Reed
3 2
1:45.384
8
Ken Roczen
4 4
1:45.577
6
Tommy Searle
5 34
1:45.902
6
Evgeny Bobryshev
6 5
1:46.057
4
Tyla Rattray
7 11
1:46.290
4
Christophe Pourcel
8
17
1:46.597
6
Blake Baggett
9 7
1:46.627
7
Jonathan Barragan
10 9
1:46.668
7
Dean Wilson

Race 2 (MX2 + Open)

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Rider
1 3
1:49.734
18
Ryan Villopoto
2 2
1:49.937
18
Jeffrey Herlings
3 4
1:50.056
14
Ken Roczen
4 1
1:50.082
18
Gautier Paulin
5 5
1:51.404
7
Kevin Strijbos
6 7
1:51.687
18
Brett Metcalfe
7 6
1:51.845
18
Gareth Swanepoel
8
10
1:51.998
9
Arnaud Tonus
9 8
1:52.831
4
Davide Guarneri
10 9
1:53.503
9
Carlos Campano

Race 3 (MX1 + Open)

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Rider
1 1
1:44.481
6
Ryan Villopoto
2 6
1:45.688
4
Evgeny Bobryshev
3 3
1:45.721
5
Tyla Rattray
4 10
1:45.959
4
Brett Metcalfe
5 2
1:46.049
5
Ryan Dungey
6 9
1:46.326
4
Jeffrey Herlings
7 35
1:46.406
2
Christophe Pourcel
8
4
1:46.543
4
Tommy Searle
9 12
1:46.590
4
Tanel Leok
10 14
1:46.752
9
Jonathan Barragan

 

 

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Dungey set the fastest lap in race one.
Photo: Ray Archer

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wrote: 2:24pm September 19, 2011

That track looked pretty weak ...but that is GP style for you......If your a "pro" level racer, there wasnt much technicality to the track to seperate anyone....That Russian dude raced a few AMA outdoor events this year and was nowhere near the top 5......RV still layed down the fastest laps....where is Reed in moto 3 ??? almost lapped.....

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sef154 wrote: 2:32pm September 19, 2011

Guys were saying it was the hardest track they'd raced on (after the rain). Hello?

"That Russian dude" has never been to America. Way to keep up. You're thinking of some dude with the same first name. "Hey, my name's Ryan, so I must be the AMA champ!" LOL

If only people formed thoughts before they typed.

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MustardDog wrote: 2:39pm September 19, 2011

The track looked like a bunch of torn up fire roads- we should have sent over Chris Carr

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kx408 wrote: 2:44pm September 19, 2011

"That Russian Guy" won a GP this year. What I find interesting is that most of the top guys have raced or do race in the US, even if only for SX like Roczen. Like race 1, only 2 of the top ten fast laps don't have AMA experience. But I guess fastest lap doesn't matter much when Paulin was 4th fastest but won race 2.

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wrote: 2:45pm September 19, 2011

OK Self.....nit pick away.....Yes, the track was "hard" for all of them because it was "dirt on top of gravel" not too mention it was raining and made it even more slick......But to be more clear as far as rythym sections and "technical" sections we see on the average MX track, I dont think it was hard from that perspective is what i am saying...walking down the side walk can be hard to do if its covered in ice....

I am pretty sure Ivan Draga from RUS (Evgany Bobryshev) raced a few nationals.....I could be wrong, but i think its the same guy

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wrote: 2:48pm September 19, 2011

@mustard dog - Torn up fire roads!!! CLASSIC!!!!!...

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BillC wrote: 2:51pm September 19, 2011

WOW EURO MIKE them Euro's are FAST!!! NOT!!! LMFAO!!!

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BillC wrote: 2:55pm September 19, 2011

The track was easy by US standards as far as bumps, jumps. But they say its like ICE when wet. It was WAY to small of a track IMO. Looked like a back yard track and almost 1 min shorter than some Nat tracks here. DV 12 even said he was let down by the track.

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Claxton wrote: 3:13pm September 19, 2011

The Euro's love to make the tracks easy for the Nations hoping it will help them get a win. We have all seen the GP tracks and some are a bit challenging but most are not, especially those selected for the Nations. That is why the GP riders perform poorly in the USA they are not use to the rough big jump bad boys.

Our boys performed magnificent considering they never rode that slick track before and the French certainly had an advantage. Man did they hammer down in the last moto when it was needed.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 3:15pm September 19, 2011

@ sef154,,, And you have the nerve to tell other poeple they are "talking crap" on here.. WOW,, get a clue dude.....

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sef154 wrote: 3:17pm September 19, 2011

DEFINITELY not the same guy, Trend Killer. Search it if you need to.

You said, "there wasnt much technicality to the track to seperate anyone." Blake Baggett said, "the most technical track I ever rode." Who to believe? I agree, the track wasn't very good once it rained, but to say "GP style" tracks are "weak" is to not know the GP tracks. Some are excellent, and most are REAL motocross tracks, as opposed to the "outdoor SX" tracks we tend to have these days. Let's get real. GP MX is good quality MX and those riders know how to throw down. Glad so many come to the U.S.

Oh, I assume you were talking to me, though you didn't have my name correct at all. No wonder you mixed up the Ruskies.

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 3:19pm September 19, 2011

Typical Yankie whinners

Evgeny Bobby, has a personality, unlike the robots from the AMA

Not every MX track has to have SX obsticles, If it was so easy why didnt Team USA lap everybody in each race.?

If it,s so easy why are the USA lights Champs back in 17/20 th position?

Does it matter if it,s a 2 min lap time or 3 Minutes, the race is still 30 mins plus 2 laps

And the Euro,s are fast, dont kid yourselves, MIA was Cairolli, Desale, frossard, Nargel and a few others.

Why is it Ryan was beat by a 250 in Race 1, let me guess it was really a 450 with 250 stickers, yea right, whinners.

Oi Oi Oi

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sef154 wrote: 3:19pm September 19, 2011

@mxmofo1 - Would you like to explain wtf you're talking about? Calling people on their crap is NOT "talking crap." You just don't like to be disagreed with. Care to insult me for the kids again?

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 3:22pm September 19, 2011

Sef 154 is GAY!!!!

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sef154 wrote: 3:22pm September 19, 2011

@iloveyoulongtime - I actually tried to give props to GPs, but comments like yours make it a lot harder!

Oh, who won?

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sef154 wrote: 3:23pm September 19, 2011

You're such a grown-up, iloveyoulongtime.

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wrote: 3:24pm September 19, 2011

I think Baggett had his mouthpiece in when the asked him about the track....what he really said was " This track is not technincal....its like riding on torn up fire roads".....haaaa haaa.....anytrack is technical when its raining and muddy for christ sake...add the 3" layer of rocks and gravel and I am sure its worse..... I dunno.... I wasnt there to ride on it but I have seen better....

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 3:29pm September 19, 2011

Aussies went 3rd to shake off the bad luck,

And what most dont realise up until the last laps the title was still up for grabs by USA, France , Australia or Great Britain

Anything could have happened with all the lappers

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 3:32pm September 19, 2011

With a poulation of over 120 million to choose from the USA should be dominant in this race,
just what out if MX takes on in China or India it will be a whitewash.

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sef154 wrote: 3:37pm September 19, 2011

We've heard that tired explanation before. Problem is, MX is about the 28th most popular sport in America. Most top athletes go ... to another sport. But if it makes you feel better....

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BillC wrote: 3:38pm September 19, 2011

iloveyoulongtime Yes it does, If the lap times are 2:30 and not 1:40 lets say you hit the line at 29:50 you have 3 more laps whitch = 7:30 on the long track BUT on the short track its just 5:00 so see you get 2:30 mins more time on the track. Thats all RV needed to win his first moto too LOL. So don't be so quick to say it does not make a dif cuz it does in a BIG way.

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BillC wrote: 3:39pm September 19, 2011

ICE = technica

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raddad wrote: 3:39pm September 19, 2011

trendkiller, RD was the fastest of the day in the racing, not sure about qualifiers though. RD was so far off in the second moto that he must have struggled with the slick conditions and no goggles. Figured he would do damn well on that skating rink even if the Euros have much more experience.

RV rode as he should have in his first race and took home a safe position rather than lose it all. RD rode safe the second moto knowing he had second and the overall was the USA's. I think they both could have finished better if they were going all out all the time like in the nationals but it was not a team deal so they both did the right thing in both their motos IMO.


The Euros opened some eyes i think, great rides and super fast! Many could run with the Ryans in the USA if they came over for a few years!

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raddad wrote: 3:41pm September 19, 2011

I mean it WAS a team deal:) Oops

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UK201 wrote: 3:43pm September 19, 2011

Dont know how you can knock the gp tracks they are good. You yanks have the best 2 riders right now. When the chips are down you make it happen,thats not luck! But props to the gp riders was some amazing racing.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 3:44pm September 19, 2011

@ sef154,,, Boy,, I'm getting sick of trying to keep upi with your short term memory ----

"If only people formed thoughts before they typed." That sounds like talking crap to me... WOW,, you are lost....

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MustardDog wrote: 3:50pm September 19, 2011

Oi loveyoulongtime is gay. the mxdn race is always 'up for grabs', we just grab it more than others. oi oi oi go play some rugby

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wrote: 3:52pm September 19, 2011

@radad.... RD had his goggles issues in the first race which was the MX1/MX2 race that Reed won...The third moto he had his goggles on the entire time and the track wasnt as wet as the first two races .As far as lap times go, RD's lap time in race 1 was just a smidge faster than RV's in race 3....right before the rain came down is when the fastet laps were set in Race 1..... Race 2 which was the muddiest was the slowest as you can see then Race 3 the track was in pretty good shape...

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raddad wrote: 4:17pm September 19, 2011

Trend killer, yes thats right it was the first moto and Reed also lose his goggles plus others did also more than likely. It was close in fast lap times but I just wanted to set the record straight:) As I said, it seemed that they both did what they had to do for the team and not for themselves, great to see!

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Red54m wrote: 4:20pm September 19, 2011

@Trend Killer, good highlight vid post, thanks. To all Yankies, Damn right we did it again. To all others (Euro Posters) Dry your eye's, 7 years in a row!!!!!!!!!!

American fastest lap all 3 moto's. Say what you want about the track, fact is first time for our guys. The guys who races the GP's probably have hundreds of laps on that famous or infamous track so it is no surprise a couple guys finished ahead here or there.


WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT COUNTED 1-2 Baby! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!!

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Red54m wrote: 4:23pm September 19, 2011

fotid post was from me! Got sideways with the new log in program. Wanted to correct in case Eoro Mike wanted to thorw down!???

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tonewall wrote: 4:25pm September 19, 2011

Does anyone anywhere in the world still think they can really beat Ryan Villopoto........NO.

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rulingtheroost wrote: 4:41pm September 19, 2011

As a Red Blooded patriotic American I was impressed by the euro's especially Caroli on saturday. I'm hoping RD can ride the 350 that fast or faster. The track was technical not just a wide open deeply cut national track.Was great to see USofA pull it out in the end.

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BillC wrote: 4:43pm September 19, 2011

RD will ride a 450

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mxmofo1 wrote: 4:44pm September 19, 2011

BillC,,, if he wants to win, he will need to... hahahahah...

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Red54m wrote: 5:00pm September 19, 2011

@ Tonewall, good point my friend. The only question now is ......Does success breed success? Or Does it breed complacency? My guess is it breeds success as history has shown!

Knowing JS7 will be back next year hungrier than ever, as well as RD who was sooo close to defending both. TC, who has showed plenty of speed and perhaps some new young blood. I think RV2 Can't overlook a single detail and that will make him an even better rider. At least that is what I hope to see!

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Motohead279 wrote: 5:52pm September 19, 2011

Evgeny B. Never rode any Nationals this year. You are thinking of a different rider. I think the thing with the track is that was much smoother than what our guys are used to racing on over here. It looked like a fun track with the hills, but was too short like Bill said. Also with shorter tracks you run into lap

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Motohead279 wrote: 5:55pm September 19, 2011

Lappers much quicker. More of a GP style track than an AMA National track. The GP guys had the homefield advantage on it, considering they just raced it a not long ago. Just as Budds Creek and Colorodo favored our guys.

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brianj wrote: 6:40pm September 19, 2011

Anyone know what happened to the fastest man on the planet Antonio Caroili?

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BillC wrote: 6:51pm September 19, 2011

Cairoli almost holeshot moto 1 but cliped a tough block in the first turn and went down. He was FLYING thru the pack and went down again and broke his tripple clamps so he DNF'ed, Moto 3 he pulled with a broken scalpula.

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brianj wrote: 7:21pm September 19, 2011

Ouch, thanks BillC.

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ClappedOut wrote: 7:29pm September 19, 2011

@ Trend Killer - The guy you were thinking of is Evgeny Mikhaylov.

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Welker wrote: 7:31pm September 19, 2011

the season is over but the talk continues I like the talk. All that matters is who won! that is in the books now. A gret race no matter what all had to ride the same track! Just never give up as MR DeCoster says.....

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dgizzy1 wrote: 11:05pm September 19, 2011

Funny that Cairolli was within 1 sec of Dungey and he isnt even on the list.

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B-KR wrote: 1:08am September 20, 2011

I think with all of this we have to remember the US riders were riding to win the overall, not individual races. Using yer noodle and trying to avoid such things as like what happened to Cairoli is where DeCoster had their minds focused. Most other top riders were able to go for broke (pun intended) as they were more in it for individual results as most teams had no chance. Roczen and Cairoli both really had no shot team-wise and could just go for it with no worries of letting the team down.

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stenberg wrote: 1:22am September 20, 2011

WOW, i was there and saw Ken Roczen beat Dungey strait up and also LAPPED Bagget, and all that on a 250f! Ken IS the BEST 250 rider in the WORLD, HANDS DOWN!!

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 1:28am September 20, 2011

Dear Mustard Dog, Bill C and others

I will set the record straight and tell you that the most popular sport played proffessionally in Australia is AFL Football, no not soccer, and deffinatly not Rugby.

And just like the USA all the smart people ride/ like Motocross.

I have to ask did anybody in the USA watch the same race as the rest of the world, cause it seems your judgment is somewhat clouded

Love Mark XXX

And no just like you i,m not gay, i just take it in the behing from a Government just the same as you.

How can the most important point of the whole weekend was overlooked,
A YAMAHA won a moto.Who would have thunk that ,eh.

Bill C, yep lap times made the difference, cause is see if USA won on the short track, who would have won on a long track, THE EASTER BUNNY?
Dont worry Bill, i used to get bad drugs sometimes too.

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iloveyoulongtime wrote: 1:32am September 20, 2011

Yes Rokzen almost did an O Mara

He and Cairoli were not riding for individuals, after the first moto Italy and Germany were ahead in the standings, wern,t they?.

I love this forum, there,s so many opinions that post here.

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mx_fan wrote: 2:32am September 20, 2011

He he, i really enjoy reading some of the posts from all (experts) in this forum... Not a technical track?? And what is a technical track for you... For me, a technical track can be hard and lot of jumps, it can be muddy,barley no jumps and so on... It,s when it much of something like sand, jumps, stones etc etc etc it becomes a technical track because you have to find good lines and position to keep the momentum and fitness..... AND thats why it becomes a technical track.. I start wondering, do not everybody here ride mx or are you just monitorjockeys???

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BillC wrote: 6:18am September 20, 2011



iloveyoulongtime u must be the one on drugs ( I never have and I don't even drink or ever have) because you think the the race would be the same leinght in time even if the laps were longer... Why did I waste my time on that one it went right over your head anyway.

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pizzacorner wrote: 9:05am September 20, 2011

Looking at that loser track, I thought it was 1983. I was waiting for Mike Coe to come out on his Factory Honda 250R 3-wheeler and smoke everyone.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 10:26am September 20, 2011

@pizzacorner... Was there.. Besides being in the middle of nowhere... And thank goodness, it was not too far from the highway... Track looked good. Trust me... Seen worser tracks... Lommel, Nimes, Lierop Tracks in BE & NL).. Just to name a few...
Only anoying thing... Having the French go beserk and believe in something like a miracle (like attending Bercy supercross, just add more patriotism up your arse to make the difference)... I liked it.
Great races... Was worth the trip and the experience.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 4:45pm September 20, 2011

@jairtime

I heard JS bathes thrice daily. Hm...maybe he's not such a bad guy...

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Motohead279 wrote: 11:56pm September 20, 2011

Didier, where did you travel from to go watch it in person?

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 12:26am September 21, 2011

The mental images I've formed of James Stewart bathing are haunting my existence.

Nothing too explicit, thankfully, as he always wears a shower cap and swimming trunks with little motorcycles printed on them. The tub is encased in marble, with brass fixtures, and a massive 250lb. gold-platinum "JS" logo hangs on the wall above. A ceramic bust of James sits in a corner, "BVBBA" carved into its base.

He bathes with a half-dozen rubber duckies, and one of them, who he calles "Bubba," has been completely blackened with a sharpie. James holds Bubba to his ear and nods approvingly as the duck gives him ideas for new episodes of Bubba's World, laughing nervously and saying things like "You really think that's a good idea?" and "Dad would get so mad!" and "Did you make that up? I'ma tweet that!"

When he's done thinking, he pushes a button and his butler scurries in with a comically oversized loofah brush. James demands he be washed in clockwise AND counterclockwise "Bubba Scrubs," a technique whose intricacies James has explained hundreds of times, and the butler lets out a weary sigh. After his bath, the butler lifts James out of the tub, dries him tenderly with "JS" logo-embroidered towels, and then wraps him up snuggly comfy cozy in a "JS" logo-embroidered terry cloth robe. "Thanks, dad," says James.

The end.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 8:05am September 21, 2011

@Motohead279... I only attended Sunday, race day.... Left friday at the end of the day, from the Netherlands to Nantes, (France), visited an old class mate.
Left early Sunday morning for the race... Reaching the track , was not too bad.. (I guess, the motorcross scene is still not as popular as other mechanized sports), As I have previous horrible experience reaching venues in France, such as the Sarthe circuit (24 hrs of Lemans ) and Circuit de nevers (For the GP de France). And let's not even talk about the Bercy Supercross.. Parking in Paris is more than sh*t.
Leaving was ok... Conveniently located next to the high way.. Was back late sunday evening.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 8:08am September 21, 2011

@jairtime... Ha,ha.. I will tell you another shocking thing... Seems that most Europeans (Northern part then) do not bath as often as they should.
Especially winter times...
I compare my water bills to my colleagues or friends... I easily triple it.. And I have a household of 4... Two adults and 2 kids... And every year I have to pay a supplement... Ha,ha...

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Retardcross wrote: 10:26am September 21, 2011

@ Whoops_Blitzer..............thanks for making my Wednesday, you confirmed my gut feeling when his Dad was revealed as the butler lol. Such a good servant he is.

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