Monday Conversation: Ryan Villopoto
Monday, September 19, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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It wasn’t always in the bag but Team USA did what it had to do in order to win the Peter Chamberlain Cup awarded to the winning country at the annual Motocross of Nations. Trailing home country France going into the third and final moto, Team USA riders Ryan Villopoto and Ryan Dungey put on a riding clinic as they went 1-2 to clinch the race. For the third year in a row, USA was trailing going into the last moto and for the third year in a row, the big guns of American motocross did what they had to in order for the country to win.
We caught up to a jubilant Ryan Villopoto, after he went 3-1 to win his class, to get his take on the day.
Racer X: Hey RV, looked a little bleak going into the third moto but you guys had a great moto to clinch the win for Team USA.
Ryan Villopoto: Yeah, we are not the last losing Team USA like you were on.
Your starts weren’t there all day until that third and final moto where you came out second despite having the second Team USA pick on the gate.
I was way outside, I didn’t pull the holeshot but it was ok. The way we were thinking was that Ryan (Dungey) had to race the best guys in his class so I gave him that gate pick but then Christophe Pourcel lined up next to me so the French guys were thinking the same way as us. They gave their moto winner (Gauthier) Paulin the first pick. I just knew that I had to jump Pourcel and get out in front of him. I had an awesome jump for sure.
Villopoto helped lead Team USA to its seventh consecutive Motocross of Nations title.
Photo: Ray Archer
And you probably knew that Dungey was right behind you from the inside.
No, I didn’t know right away actually. I did know after the first lap that he wasn’t far behind me. I was thinking, before we went out that [Mike] Fisher had told us that a 1-2 would win it for us and I was in first so I was thinking Ryan had to get into second and we’d be good. I didn’t know that Christophe passed him at one point but then Ryan got into second.
Going into the third moto, were you bumming on the team's position, or did you have confidence you could pull it out?
We knew where we sat. If we went 1-2 we were going to win. We knew we could do that or we would need some luck. We knew we could ride better. We did it all year. Once I got out ahead of him and after a lap, I knew he was there.
Your first moto, you didn’t get a good start and then it started raining on and off. Not a good race for you.
I wheelied out of the line and it was a bad start. I rode tight or something, the track was really tough for us all day. Like I said in the press conference, they laid dirt on top of a rock sheet. It was total rock and it’s something that none of us ever rode. We hadn’t ridden here and [Ken] Roczen and those guys just finished racing here and they know the track and how it gets.
Any riders impress you today?
Roczen passed me back out there and a lot of these Euros don’t look the part, but they can ride, man, they can really ride.
Villopoto is 4-0 at the Motocross of Nations.
Photo: Ray Archer
You’re 4-0 so far in MXoNs, and Jeff Ward’s record is in sight for you….
What’s that?
He’s 7-0.
Whoa, man, I don’t know about that.
Is it possible to rank this MXoN for you out of the four you’ve done?
This is for sure the best one.
Are you just saying that because it’s right after the moto and you have a beverage in your hand?
No. Because we were nine points down to the team and I’d never been in that situation before. We’ve always been ahead when I’ve raced, so this is different. Like in England when Stew [James Stewart] went down and Timmy came through for us. We’ve always been winning and haven’t been down that many before.
Thanks for doing this, and I guess go Team USA!
Yep, not Canada. Go Team USA.
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EuroMike can kiss my proud American keester.
Good Job. Now go get the Monster Cup!!!
VILOPOTO !!!
Captain Dungey & Villo Boss ! USA #1, AMA #1 !!!
I think the main difference is the US seems to be a tad larger in the nards department
Great win for USA....Hopefully the races will be on youtube soon so we can see what went down....
RV winning Moto 3 has to feel good on a personal level as well....with all the " who should ride MX1" nonsense, RV went out and smoked all of them... I am not surprised by the way things played out.....Roczen, Pourcel and a few other guys are fast, no doubt....Those guys had the advantage and with lady luck of mother nature coming into play, they didnt capatalize and the USA boys took it home....
Yea,, RV has always been known for his comedian style attitude.. hahahahaha
BTW...I like he comedic approach of Matthes, trying to give the riders a more realxed atmosphere than a typical interview is cool....but he is simply not funny.....he tries, but it just comes off stupid sometimes....RV is the man!
Here's the way I see it, as a fan of the sport, rather than just a single rider. Dungey's 2010 performance gave him the rights to the MX1 ride, provided that nobody dominated him through Washougal in 2011 nationals. Nobody did, so he was hands down the MX1 rider at that point, period. Now, Villopoto's 2011 performance, dominating the last few nationals and beating Dungey in their MXON moto, puts him in the same position for '12 that Dungey was in for '11. As long as nobody dominates him through Washougal next year, MX1 is all his for Lommel. American MX fans need to stop with the love for one rider and disrespect to everyone else, and try to remember what happened further back than the past two or three races.
sorry VILLOPOTO!
Gratz to usa wtg all ryans ...and even baggs, get em next time tiger (next time?) I think RV2 rags on canada becouse of his homestate proximity to canada.....next door. Shoot Im from michigan, traveled 189 miles at night, next stop I made everyone was speaking french in the store? I knew I hadn't traveled that far? did I? The Canuks expect it from us "jethros"anyways. :P I for 1 have no idea why canada doesnt do better at the mxdn? Why?
RV is funny........I bet that was for Deano.
@ warrior462,, so let me get this straight, you would rather take LAST YEAR'S champion over the guy who just won the championship a week or two before the MXoN's ??? Dude, what are you smokin' ???
Hard to believe people who seem to spend their lives on this website wouldn't fork over $20 to watch these races live. (That's without the T-shirt; $35 with.) Many of you spend more than that on beer for the week. (I spend $0 on that.) There's no way I'm missing MXdN. As the announcers said, this is the most exciting event of the year. Quick contribution to Paypal, plug laptop into big screen, two-and-a-half hours of qualifier coverage on Saturday, and four hours of action on Sunday. It's a no-brainer! Plus, I can watch the replays as many times as I want! You're either not a real MX fan, or you've got fish hooks in your pockets! (If you have a computer, I'm assuming you're not broke.) I admit it's pricey, but few things aren't these days. Suck it up!
Matthes why don't you tell us about the USA celebration? How did Baggett hold up?
And for those still moaning about Dungey as MX1 - STFU! We won, for crying out loud! Oh, btw, did RV wear #1 AT ALL this year? Uhhhhhhh ... nope. Move on!
RV was the MAN yesterday!!!
@ sef154,, Lets see,, do you have Kids ??? Sounds to me like you live alone and can do anything you want at pretty much anytime you want.. Throw some kids in the mix and you may get an idea of what it feels like to look after someone else besides yourself... What a geek ....
Settle down SEF, RV earned the right to run the #1, He is the champ thats who always runs the #1 right?? Also he proved to be the leader over the weekend. From winning to the podium when he reached over and took RD's and BB's hats off when they played our song. I don't really care but it did seem odd that RD got to be MX1. Would love to know how and why.
SEF was the 2nd moto crappy for you?? the Pic kept stoping and going but the sound was fine. The first and last moto was fine though.
Agreed, RV was the man. Dungey had the inside gate and he still smoked him.
Legend.
I hear ya Sef ....!!! I felt like such a moron Sunday morning.....following twitter so I could have some idea of what was going on? Can't believe I didn't bite the bullet and pay for it.
On another note......I never like to draw comparisons to RC....as it just isn't fair to judge anyone in relation to the GOAT but it seems more and more now that when it comes time to put in an EPIC ride RV does just that. When his back is to the wall there is no-one better than him right now !! just watch the unplugged video of the final moto on T.W. and watch the first pass RV puts on Russian Bob! if that's not RC like commitment I don't know what is. He had the throttle pegged all the way down the straight into the first turn and ran it inside a ludicrous speed!
One more thing.....Roczen is very fast but he and some of the other worlds best had the benefit of racing without any pressure as their teams weren't strong enough to have a realistic shot at winning....therefore they could hang it out a little more and ride for personal glory.
I'm fairly confident RV would've won MX3/MX2 if he needed to. Lot more pressure when riding for your team not to mention the responsibility of posting a good result and keeping it on two wheels.
As a Canadian I'm very proud to be a supporter of American Motocross.
I really think RV thrives on Pressure!! I have never seen him fold anyway. Some people say in 2010 that he cracked thats why he crashed and broke his leg I said than and say now NO WAY. That was just a guy going for wins because thats the only way he could win that title and sometimes chit happens.
You guys should have come on here I was going back and forth with update post's sometimes every 3 or 4 mins.
oh ya.....RV was obviously the team leader as he was the only one to get some sugar from the smoking hot Monster Girl at the podium !! Awkward......
The races were on this feed free yesterday and they are archived now so you can see them...http://www.justin.tv/ethimia/videos
YES that pass RV put on the Rusky was COOL, Talk about threading the needle!! It Was very tight be he never backed off!!! How do you sit on the seat with balls that big?? LOL
One more thing......If you guys go to the other site and watch the recap of the final moto you'll see something cool at the end. After RV and RD were done celebrating and congratulating each other, as they were about to remount their bikes some dude inside the ropes appeared to be grabbing at RV for some reason and RD went straight for him and pulled him away.....pretty cool.
puts it all in perspective.....two guys who've battled for two championships in the last year morphed into ultimate teammates in the matter of a week. All for the ultimate goal.....really cool in my books.
YES RV and RD seemed real close over there, At the start of moto 1 RV was on the line talking to RD was cool to see him there in street cloths helping RD. Will be neat to see how this afects them next year in SX.
Id rather go ride moto than watch it on a computer ;)
@redrider121 I have always said I would rather be a participant thean a spectator, however you can ride anytime and the mxon happens once a year. And yes BillC did a fine job of keepin us all posted! And it only took a little searchin' to find him,I was really hoping he was gonna do that for us. Thanked him so many times yesterday I think i'm off the hook today. Ripdown I didn't catch that w/ the guy at rv and rd to the rescue. Thanks for pointing it out. I know some guys that fight in the cage. They sit there b-4 the fight all buddy-buddy and then go in the cage and pi$$ pound each other for three rounds and then ride home together. Never could understand how they could turn it on and off like that. This is prolly a poor comparison to rv and rd but I'm bettin it will again be all bussiness come jan 7. Can't wait . And these guys are true champions in every form of the word. I was talkin at the races sunday to moron mike and he even had to admit they were a couple of wonderful fellas. NOT hey if he can say he talked to Tony and Ken (TC & KR) figured I would come up with my own little white lie! LOL
@mxmofo1 - I've already raised my kids. Do you teach yours to name-call when they disagree with people? Whatever, dude. And if you can't tell the little woman to keep the kids out of your hair for one morning, then why are you even worried about whether it's televised? You're always talking crap on here, and frankly, I don't care.
@BillC - I'm settled (as usual). Just sick of people griping on and on. Both riders had legitimate arguments for wearing #1. My point is, it didn't really matter; they both rode two motos, they both did their part, and we won! As for the pass RV made on the Russian, yes, it was a good pass, but in those conditions, what if he went down? Bobryshev went 34-6, so I don't think it was a "crucial" pass. And it was cool that RV took everybody's hat off, but it was because they had their hands full! Also, BillC, I didn't have any issues with the feed; in fact, it was clearer than the TV coverage of the GPs that I watch (where you can barely read the names scrolling across).
I'd also like to point out that Dungey and Reed had pulled clear of Roczen until it started to pour. At that point, the Dunge rode smart (as he usually does) instead of throwing it away. As it was pointed out, Roczen (on the smaller bike) had nothing to lose. The nitpickers love to play Monday morning quarterback.
And I'd like to hear some honest opinions of the track. It looked great on Saturday, but after it rained, it looked pretty bad and definitely hard to pass on. (Why couldn't "the new GOAT" get by that Dutch kid on the 350? Doesn't he know how to pass? LOL)
Props to all three riders and to the whole team for yet another successful MXdN! great stuff!
here is a cool highlights video....go USA!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUZB8BcO_Ic
Good clip. Oh, and there were seven Monster girls on the podium ... and they were the "A team."
@ sef154 ,, you are a moron.. If I remeber right, you are the one knocking poeple for " buying beer."
And you think I'm "talking crap." Heres what you said ----
"Hard to believe people who seem to spend their lives on this website wouldn't fork over $20 to watch these races live."
"You're either not a real MX fan, or you've got fish hooks in your pockets! (If you have a computer, I'm assuming you're not broke.) I admit it's pricey, but few things aren't these days. Suck it up! "
What a geek ...
Sef, good posts, we both think very alike. Mxmofo, you sound like a 3 year old some times. I would have paid twice that to watch the race. Not everything in life is free, deal with it. I'm not in RVs jock strap like a few in here seem to be, but he rode great today. Also, in that 2nd moto, RD had no goggles. Between that and the rdin I doubt Roczen would have bought them.
The screen on my iPhone went out. What I was trying to write was between RD having no goggles and the Rain, I doubt Roczen was going to catch RD. Rain was going to be the other countries only chance to win yesterday.
Not sure why anybody paid to watch. I saw all three motos for free. Which is the way it's supposed to be.
Awesome job RV and RD ! ! !
@mxmofo1 - Sorry, I thought I was talking to a grown-up. Where, exactly, did I KNOCK people for buying beer. Shame you didn't get some reading comprehension skills in school. Most of my friends drink, and when they have too many, I invite them to stay over or offer them a ride. Maybe you're a cheapskate, and that's why you're so offended?
@SpottedMarley - Spill your secret!
Motohead279,,, are you and sef154,,, "good friends." hahaha...
"Not everything in life is free, deal with it" Could you explain that to me ??
My point is, not EVERYONE has time to watch racing when its on, like sef154 thinks... I dont think it make me a non - mx fan or a tight ass just because I dont watch it right when its on.... Thats why a DVR was created... Get it Motorhead279,, and sef154 ???
RV deserves the #1 plate next year, just as Dungey deserved it this year. Some of you guys act like RV totally dominated the nationals this year. RD won 4 overalls this year (really 5) to RVs 3. Take away RD DNF and he wins the title, you Guys totally in love with RV do you still think he should have ridden mx1? It's over, deal with it, we won. Again.
@ sef154,,, Let me remind you ---
"""""Many of you spend more than that on beer for the week. """" Thats "knocking".. Comprendo ???
I agree with him because he makes a lot more sense than you, and acts like an adult on here, rather than a punk. I don't know him, but wouldn't mind talking moto with him because he sounds intelligent, unlike you. If I have to explain that everything in
@ Motohead279,,, your right,, the 450 Champ does NOT deserve to ride MX1.... What was I thinking... You don't even see the point,, do you ???
@ Motohead27,,, and you think this is "intelligent ?" Now I know why you are on the same metal lavel he is....
"Hard to believe people who seem to spend their lives on this website wouldn't fork over $20 to watch these races live. (That's without the T-shirt; $35 with.) Many of you spend more than that on beer for the week. (I spend $0 on that.) There's no way I'm missing MXdN. As the announcers said, this is the most exciting event of the year. Quick contribution to Paypal, plug laptop into big screen, two-and-a-half hours of qualifier coverage on Saturday, and four hours of action on Sunday. It's a no-brainer! Plus, I can watch the replays as many times as I want! You're either not a real MX fan, or you've got fish hooks in your pockets! (If you have a computer, I'm assuming you're not broke.) I admit it's pricey, but few things aren't these days. Suck it up! "
So even if RD goes 24-0 next year RV gets the #1 plate at the MXON!! WOW thats DUMB!!!
@mxmofo1
What I am saying is that if the defending champion of nationals and MXoN is one of the top riders coming out of Washougal, when the team needs to be decided, then he should absolutely be the MX1 rider. Not only was Dungey one of the top riders at that point, but he actually had ALL of the momentum after winning three of the last four rounds going into Unadilla where the team is announced. I honestly think the 2011 nationals would have been way closer if it wasn't for Poto's new bike. If you really think that he just flipped a switch and started dominating all of a sudden, you're fooling yourself. BillC suggested, like the idiot that he is, that the MX1 rider should be the national champion. One problem, how the hell do you know who the champion is before Unadilla? Use your head for a minute. Unfortunately, we've never before had the "problem" in the U.S. of not knowing who THE guy is at that point in the year. I think it was handled perfectly and like I said, next year is Villopoto's, unless Dungey or someone else can somehow dominate the nationals through Washougal and establish themselves as THE guy. The fact that you guys would even think to question "the man", who has been involved in more MXoN wins than anyone else ever, fills me with bitter rage and disgust. When you've won as many as Decoster, then let me hear your opinion.
thanks jairtime for posting that on the weekend !! i got to watch all the motos for free and it was some sick racing !!!! GO USA !! ps, that roczen kid is smoking fast !!
@ warrior462,,, I agree with you somewhat.. But, I think when RV jumped on the new Kaw, he came to life and was the best guy out there.. Fact is, RV is faster than RD, and we need our fastest guys riding against the otyher countries fastest guys in the same class.. If Antonio Cairolli is in the MX1 class,, RV needs to be in that class with him...
First off, my iPhone sucks. 2nd , thanks Warrior, you posted my point exactly. Well said bro.
Sef also you seem to be very conservative ( when it come to moto) Maybe thats why you like RD best (imo) But the pass had to be made. If RV waited for a perfect place who knows what happens, CP cloeses in?? RV loeses "his" pase...The Rusky falls in front of RV and takes him down?? Ya never know. Beside's Rodger told them they needed a 1-2 finish so waiteing around is not the thing to do..... Riding like that is why RV is the Champ this year, Thats how he Rides, Thats how RC rode. Everyone is dif its what works for him. Just like RD is super smooth its just not him to ride crazy and stuff guys or bounce of things. Sometimes it costs him a win but ya can't change who they are because they both get it done very well its just RV is more fun to watch sometimes LOL.
warrior462 thanks for acting like a 12 year old and calling me a name. Any way NEWS FLASH for ya "They did not pick the team at Unadilla". Either way RV had the points lead... If like You say " Unlesssomeone is dominate the nationals " Who makes that call?? Also Who questioned "the man" ?? AnywayThe man said flip a coin!! If I remember right.
Recycled interview.
@mxmofo1
Was it clear that Villopoto was faster than Dungey before Unadilla? (Which is where they announced the team, which I know because I was there.) Absolutely not. Do we really need our fastest guy in MX1? Did we not win? Did Dungey not win his class? Did he not beat Cairolli in every moto including qualifying? All the evidence suggests that the team was just fine as it was. Like I said, just try to look beyond your blinding love for one rider and see the actual facts.
BillC, I do agree with you on the fact that I think it was a good move RV made on Russian Bob, he saw his spot and took it. Wasn't overly aggressive to me. Also, team USA is decided before unadilla and they announce it that weekend before the races. Let's all move on from who deserved what and be glad we won again. Both guys won their classes.
@ warrior462,, you just dont understand , do you ? If other countries have their fastest 450 rider in the MX1 class, then we need our fastest 450 rider in that class also.. Cant you understand that ??? Dude, I like RD.. He grew up racing less than 4 hours from where I grew up and live,, so dont think that RV is my favorite.. Thats just NOT the case.. Also, they did not pick the team at Unadilla..
Bill, when has Dungey not beaten Canoli? Are you saying he is faster than RD? RD has won his class every year he's raced it. I know you are infatuated with RV, but cmon man give RD some credit.
@mxmofo1 - I understand you and agree. I have been on this site long anough to know your never going to win an arguement with Sef. He rarely agrees with anyone that thinks differently but I give him credit for sticking to his guns. As for trying to get your point across to warrior462, thats obviously a lost cause. Anyone who would be "filled with bitter rage and disgust" with someone who disagrees with Decoster obviously has some deep rooted issues with letting people have an opinion. Regardless, whats done is done. We won and at the end of the day thats all that matters.
@ ClappedOut,,, Now that, I can agree with ....
If our supposed second fastest 450 rider can win the MX1 class, I don't see why we need to put our supposed fastest there, for one thing. For another thing: http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/08/13/usa-mxon-team-announced
@ warrior462,,, you said ---- "If our supposed second fastest 450 rider."
He is the second fastest... RV WON the championship, right ??? I bet they were regretting that after RV won both motos by 5 miles at Dilla...
@ warrior462,,, I also beleive that RV had a 1 point lead over RD coming into Unadilla... Hmmmmm,, now that's strange, isnt it ???
@ warrior462,,, Also,, they announced the Team at Dilla,, but they sure didnt say which classes RV and RD were going to ride, did they ????
Alot of the comments on here really seem to reaffirm the fact that throughout the rest of the world, a large proportion of Americans are perceived as ignorant, narrow minded, gun toting hillbillys who probably couldn't point out where France is on a map let alone have even left their own countries borders. Now there are a few well informed, balanced comments but most seem written by blindly patriotic retards.
please stop- i beg you
That link just shows that the team was announced. Doesn't say who's racing which class. Villopoto deserved it and should have been MX1.
Some folks overwhelming love for Dungey blinds them to the fact that Villopoto took away all Dungey's #1 plates and earned it for the Nations as well.
Call me a gun toting hillbilly, but dont call me ignrant
who gives a damn about the 1 plate.villo looked better with earnhardt on the plates anyway!!!!!!!!!!
Motohead279 what the Hell are you talking about?? Where and when did I say RD did not beat Cairoli?? I love RD and RV, I lean tord RV a little more because I like his more aggressive style but I also respect RD to the MAX!!
Thats right Mofo, I was at Unadilla and they did NOT say who the MX1 guy was. EOn here for a week or two after the Dilla they were still taling about it and thats when Rodger said flip a coin. I wouyld like to know if thats how they really did it.
ElCapitan what post's did you like??
Whats ignorant is people thinking you have to like every rider. While I do respect every rider and their abilities I definitely dont have to like them and if I want to only like one rider then thats my right to do so.
Van Ryan's Express rides again! Blake was a little too amped because he wanted it SOO bad for his country. We salute you American patriots!
(that picture of RV and rainbow just WOW)
Does it REALLY matter who wore the #1 plate?? The plates quite obviously coincide with MX1-MX2-MX3.......at the point they picked the team thats how it was and there is no need to go changing it after the Nats were over just because RV won the title, it was the right call at the time the team was picked!! They won the trophy and that is all that matters, right??
BillC. Sorry, my bad on the comment about Caroli, meant to be directed at mxmofo, and another of his brilliant comments. He said we needed to put RV against Caroli, implying that RD somehow can't beat him. Was trying to post from my crappy Iphone that was wigging out.
Motohead279,, My God dude,, seriously... My point was AC is the fastest guy over THERE,, and RV is the fastest guy HERE, so they need to be in the same class... I never said RD could NOT beat AC,, did I ?? My God dude,, use your head... You are a MRON... Please tell me where I said RD could NOT beat AC ??? I didnt think you could !!!
Motohead279,,, you need to learn to READ !!!!!!
mxmoron wrote "Fact is, RV is faster than RD, and we need our fastest guys riding against the otyher countries fastest guys in the same class.. If Antonio Cairolli is in the MX1 class,, RV needs to be in that class with him..."
Then what are you implying there, RD can't hang with the world's fastest He is one of the top 2 faastest , MORON. RD and RV were neck and neck through the whole Nationals, RD actually won more overalls, which means he was faster than RV a bunch of times this year. And if not for a mechanical issue he is the champ. So being champ on paper make RD then the fastest? RD has stepped up every year at the MXON, even his first race on a 450 3 years ago, and beat Caroli and everyone else for the overall. This year RD and RV both got a 3rd, and RV wont the last moto over RD. RV was faster that last moto, but RD also didn't need to try to hunt RV down like this was a National. And don't say he can't becasue he did it multiple times this year. You really think if RD got out front and was pulling a little lead that RV would have rode for personal glory rather than for the country and tried to hunt RD down and risk it all?
Yeah, you probably would think that.
Motohead279,,, If memeory serves me right,, RV won the title,,, so YEP, RV is faster...
@sef154-- I know you and I agree on alot of the same things, but for you to say a guy isnt a real motocross fan because he didnt want to pay for the Des Nations, is a little chikensh#t comment in my opinion. You dont know any of these people including me, on this site. So you can keep your "I am better becaue I had an extra 20 bucks to spend " attitude to yourself. So you think it makes you more of a moto fan because you spent money for a race online?? Get freakin real. I wasnt going to spend it because those companies are rick enough in my opinion, it should have been on for free. that doesnt make me any less a fan than you.
^you guys are children. Let it go.
That pass RV made on Roczen was sooo sick, had his feet off the pegs through the first couple whoops and was still holding the bike with his legs. Then going down the pit straight on the fender just power wheeling that bike, what a great race.
And the $20 at mx-live.tv I feel is definitely worth it, you get full qualifiers, pre race interviews, all 3 motos, post race interviews, and you can watch as many times as you want. Great deal.
Motohead279- you are wasting your time, mx mofo is an idiot, you cant explain anything to an idiot!!
Yeah BD... I see that, But I like to try to help the mentally challenged. You know, thinking about it, this is a good problem to have. Having two of, if not the 2 fastest guys in the world, that are so close in speed, that can beat each other on any given weekend, both racing for our team. Its a good problem. Going to be a better problem next year when Stewie gets everything together next year and we have 3 guys that can dominate.
"Motohead279,,, If memeory serves me right,, RV won the title,,, so YEP, RV is faster..." OK, I'll give you that. It took a DNF and a start a lap down at Southwick to do it, but ok.
2StrokeSean... I agree, $20 was well worth it. Had a late night and woke up late so I didn't get it, but would have if I was up in time. Like any business it takes money to put this together, and air it, etc. I'm a business owner myself and don't see a problem to charge for a product. I would have paid more to watch it, but thats me. Hell, I might even head to Lommel next year and watch it in person. Would be awesome to watch a Southwick vs. Lommel race.
Some out here are just hopeless; others need to learn how to put things in context. FACT: Ryan Dungey rode MX1 at des Nations. FACT: He won the class. FACT: America won the MXdN. And yet some of you have nothing better to do than to go on and on about how “unfair" it was that RD wore #1 and RV wore #3. Get a F@CKIN' LIFE, already! I tried to explain that both riders were deserving, but I get pelted by the name-callers and told "your never going to win an arguement with Sef." (Nice spelling, btw.) Maybe if you're more intelligent about picking your battles, you'll have a better shot. And bd200, first, you missed my point, which was that nobody who's out here every day posting should be moaning about not being able to see the races. Come on, man. 20 bucks? And your argument that "I wasnt going to spend it because those companies are rick enough in my opinion"? Have you heard of cutting off your nose to spite your face? Newsflash: when you buy just about ANYTHING, some of the money goes somewhere you'd rather it not go. It sucks, but it's life. That seems to be what some of you don't get. That's why it’s such a pissing contest out here. I've got to go find some adults to talk to.
@jairtime.. Tnx again for the link... Watched those races for free... Nice! Will never ever again pay the bastard of Luongo any $$... Biggest scum of the earth..
RV... Clearly the best rider out there... SX,MX & mxofn champ! All he has to do is win the Monster cup this October... Which he will easily do!
2012.. Will be again his year.. The KX450 2012 is a great bike..! And he has the best trainer at his side!
I also wasn't about to pay $20 for an internet feed that may or may not crap out. I figured it would be somewhere free and come Sunday morning someone posted the link to a free feed. I saw it all as it happened and it cost me nothing. If I could've got a HD signal through my cable box for $20 I'd think about it, but not huddled around my laptop screen.
That's the kind of comment I would expect from you, pizzacorner. "Mental midget" because I watched MXdN Sunday morning? (On a big screen, btw.) You must be another one who reads half the comments or doesn't comprehend what you read. The only reason I even posted was because people are on here crying about having to pay to see the race (like $20 is going to kill anyone here). You're one of the worst "armchair critics" out here. When I point out the foolishness of people's complaints, all the half-wits come back with confused and ignorant responses. Let's see. I'm a huge moto fan and I paid a small sum to make sure I could see the biggest moto event of the year as it happened, and I'm annoyed that people are still arguing who should have been riding what - after we won! If that makes me a "mental midget," I'd hate to think what some of you are.
Here´s the part that was left out.
Q. Hey Ryan, what did it feel like to get your ass handed to you by the recipient of the Ricky Carmichael trophy?
A. Yeah Steve, it sucked man. That kid is soooo fast.
Q. Did you know he´s only 16, and that was his first ever ride on a MX1 bike. Also he was spotting you 100cc?
QA. Jeez man, don´t rub it in. The guys a Rocket, what can I say. He and Roczen are sure gonna rule when they are both get over here. I get depressed just thinking about it.
@BillC-
Yeah man thanks for the updates on it man, much appreciated.
Thx again.
I don't think I've ever heard so many excuses and whining from one person as I have seen from MoronMike.
So, what excuses are you planning for next year, or do you have them written down already if we win again?
@ bd200 ---- you said ---- "Motohead279- you are wasting your time, mx mofo is an idiot, you cant explain anything to an idiot!!"
There you go again,, getting involved in something that doesnt even concern you, and calling names also,, when NOTHING has been said yo you,, idiot...
Euro mike forgot the part about RV haveing a bad gate and coming from 26th place to almost pass that 16 year old who started up front... Yeah he rode great but can't even lift RV Jock!! BTW were was Boy wonder in moto 2?? OH yeah about 1 min behind the FASTEST MX RIDER IN THE WORLD>>>> RV ... Give up Mike yopu sound like a cry baby WE WON AGAIN... Live with it...You have no choice LOL
Sef, No one is crying about who was #1, Just talking about it thats what we do here right? Or now that the race is over should we just turn the page? I think some who said RV should have been the #1 rider feel they have been vaiidated because of what RV did and there is nothing wrong with that I don't think.
.Someguy... Thank You, I was glad to do it.
Sounds like a lot of complaining to me, BillC. And now that the event is over and the lineup - as it was configured - was victorious, isn't there ANYTHING better to talk about? You might have noticed I'm not on here very much anymore (with the exception of the days surrounding this weekend's event), and I'm reminded why. Besides the usual round-and-round nature of the discussions, there are those - especially those who don't have an intelligent thought to present - who attack you for having a different thought than them. It's ridiculous. And before you go getting all worked up, Bill, I'm not talking about you. You and I seem to have figured out how to calmly discuss things (for the most part). Don't worry, though; we'll still have plenty of disagreements! Your response to “Mikey,” however, regarding RV and Herlings, was well said. We could add that the track was not at all conducive to good passing opportunities. Otherwise, I have to believe Ryan would have gotten by the young Dutchman.
@ sef154,, and this is an " intelligent thought ,,,
"And for those still moaning about Dungey as MX1 - STFU! We won, for crying out loud! Oh, btw, did RV wear #1 AT ALL this year? Uhhhhhhh ... nope. Move on! "
... and you aske ME if I'm teaching my kids to " name call " while you tell poeple to " STFU,." C'mon man....
Sef I am not getting all worked up, This is the "NEW" calmer BillC LOL... Good times!! Next year at the Dilla and or Wick You are going to wear a 3 foot tall pink hat so i can find you LOL........ deal??
PS. as mxmofo points out I think we all go 4th grade sometime :-)
Did I offend your sensibilities, mxmofo1? First, that isn't calling anyone, specifically or otherwise, a name - as opposed to the several names you called me and others just on this one thread alone. Second, it was used strictly for emphasis. But I should know better. Shouting at somebody that doesn't get it isn't going to get the point across.
BillC, I agree we need to do something to better identify ourselves, but I ain't goin' with the pink hat.
Lol @ jairtime. Yes I have a strange feeling a lot of Christmas card exchanging does not get done on here. It's all in good fun though, I give nor take anything personal on here, as should anyone else. Except EuroMike, he's still a douche.
LOL it was just a thought. I guess we could come up with something a little less offensive if we put our heads together.
Motohead279... YES Euro Mike is a stand out!!! LOL
Everyone else is COOL in my book even if they don't like me.
sef145,,, you are right, calling someone a "geek" is way way worse than telling poeple top "STFU."
I'm still trying to understand your thinking.......
Not sure I've ever seen so many argumentative comments. Jee. Zuss.
Saturday night I was starting to regret not paying for the feed, but since I had missed the practice motos already I didn't want to pay the same amount for less content (unless it truly was pay-per-view, like it said on the site). Plus I wasn't sure when it would start and I figured I'd probably end up sleeping through the start with no way to go back...
Maybe next year it'll be more worth it if Germany, Italy, Belgium, etc. have better teams, especially since we're supposedly gonna get our asses handed to us in the sand.
(Oh yeah, and the MXdN shirt is probably x-large and wouldn't fit anyway.)
"Motohead279 wrote:
3:26pm September 19, 2011
The screen on my iPhone went out. What I was trying to write was between RD having no goggles and the Rain, I doubt Roczen was going to catch RD. Rain was going to be the other countries only chance to win yesterday."
RAIN! So You mean it is a legit excuse for team USA to loose MXdN if it rains..? Real motocross riders should know how to ride in rain!
And maybe they did,(team USA) the smart way (no crashes).
Broken bikes should be the other countries only chance to win...or Lommel :-)
I was there and it was a awesome race, USA needs to get some more fast MX2 riders, clearly BB was the weak link (as Weimer in Italy).
Anyway, good job USA, im not surprised, im sure Lommel wont be a problem either (Barcia, Bogle and Dowd for Puerto Rico would be cool).
@ MX691,, The USA riders do know how to ride in the rain,,,, but,,, if the Euros ride more mud races, then they would be better at it.. I remeber some Michigan riders that were awsome in the rain,,,, because they rode more races in the mud...
Point is, the more mud races you ride through the year, the better you will be at it compared to relatively equal competition that doesnt ride very many mud races.
Mx691, that wasn't an excuse. I think certain guys excel in the rain, especially when they ride it often. I think our guys rode smart, know when to push it hard, and when to back it off. Like said by others, it's one of the reasons team US does so well. And if you were able to watch the Southwick national, you could see RD knows how to ride in the rain (although this track was totally different). At Southwick, RD had nothing to lose to let it hang out. A little, where as at this race he had everything to lose. No excuses, the other countries rode great, it's no secret that there are some really fast guys in the GPs. (most of them eventually end up in the US)
Europe gets a lot more rain than a lot of places here, especially in Southern Cslifornia, which barely sees any, where all the factory teams are based. Britain probably gets more rain in 2 weeks than southern Valifornia gets all year.
Sorry
Whoops_Blitzer you got to pick what size shirt ya wanted. Also you could have got no shirt and payed $15e
MX691 our MX 2 guy has been the weak link sence RV got off it. TC did not do that great last year either I don't think.
Easy guys on Blake B. He definately has the speed, he won his qualifier pretty handily and look what he did in the Nationals, when he was on, he was 3 seconds a lap faste at some races. The problem is his consistancy. He a young guy, at the biggest race of his life, only 2nd year racing. Lots of pressure being on a team expected to win, nothing else. He got bad starts and made a few mistakes like a lot of guys did, especially considering the track conditions being something not used to riding on. He's young, he will get more consistant. Canard finished 3rd in class I believe last year. Look at RC's first 2 MXoN appearances in 97 and 98, both in the mud, They were both disasters. In 98 he DNF'd both motos, the team finished 4th. He was considered the weak link. We all know what he went on to do.
Sorry, RC's first 2 years were 98 and 99.