Ask Ping!
Friday, August 19, 2011 | 9:00 AMI am a 39-year-old man who, in spite of all common sense and reason, still spends large parts of my day dreaming about my next race/ride or thinking about the last one. I have many adult responsibilities and am raising four wonderful children and have been married for 16 years…pretty normal story for someone who is a productive member of society. Here is my concern: On any given day if I have the choice to stay home and make a little magic with my significant other or go riding for a couple hours, the choice is always riding. Sometimes I try both, but the first always somehow messes up the second. So I have learned to avoid all situations that could take me into the bedroom and thus ruin my "ride." Furthermore, the "release" I feel after a good ride far exceeds that of other types of riding. But it does make me want to snuggle when I get home. Normal?
MD
Dear MD,
Uh, no. Not normal. I appreciate your zeal for the sport of motocross but I think you may be blurring some lines here. You’ve wandered into George Costanza territory. Seinfeld fans will recall when George tried combining his two loves, sex and sandwiches, with unfavorable results. There’s something very unattractive about pastrami breath. I can understand wanting to ride instead of spending some, ahem, quality time with your wife. Sadly, many men would probably vote in favor of a good ride over the reheated cheese pizza that their sex life has become. I don’t fault you for that. But there is something very abnormal about wanting to cuddle when you get home. Then again, maybe you’ve stumbled onto the answer all married men have been looking for: You want to ride, she wants to cuddle. You replace sex with dirt biking and she replaces it with buying an unreasonable number of new shoes. When you get home you snuggle and everyone is happy. Time to write a book, perhaps? Suggested title: Keeping Your Marriage Intact Without Ever Having to be Intimate With Your Old Battle Axe. Good luck.
PING
Ping,
I just found out that my stepdaughter can’t say anything about having a birthday party at school because it might offend one of her little snot-slinging classmates! Whatever happened to peanut butter and birthday parties in school? When I was a kid (I am 43) if I got fourth place in a competition and I didn't get a thing. Now they get a trophy for getting last place because they might feel left out if they don't get anything. What a joke. What does this do for the kids in the future?
Bob Frasier
Dear Bob,
It creates another generation of kids who feel a sense of entitlement. We’ve all seen the email and heard the song about how things used to be. Cribs were all painted in lead-based paint, people drank water from the hose, kids played outside until dark, nobody locked their doors, etc, etc. Things really used to be that way! Of course everyone smoked cigarettes and drank while they were pregnant back then too. As we progress as a society there is both good and bad that comes out of it. Without finger pointing I will say that a certain group of people have steered this country off course into a overly-politically correct nightmare where we can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. And this PC crap changed the way kids were raised. If you spank your kids you are considered a monster these days. Well, better call CPS because when my kids get out of line they get their back porch painted red. Common courtesy, common sense, social graces and basic manners are practically extinct because giving a “time out” to little Johnny for setting the garage on fire isn’t having the impact they had hoped. I don’t know what to tell you about the public school system where you live; they are certainly flawed. I know that the biggest impact on your kids comes from what they are taught and what they experience at home. Balls in your court, Bob.
PING
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I can appreciate the...ahem vs. moto situation. The answer is "both" you should do both.
Too right on the third response! Rewarding someone for showing up and slogging around half-assed robs a person/racer/worker of the incentive to produce or improve. The podium was designed with only three steps for a reason.
Too right on the third response! Rewarding someone for showing up and slogging around half-assed robs a person/racer/worker of the incentive to produce or improve. The podium was designed with only three steps for a reason.
Excuse me, should be "Ball's in your court", not "Balls in your court"..... Of course, maybe they're not and that's why we've got problems here....
Rewarding mediocrity is denying social reality. Wait till its time to compete in the job market or at college entrance exam time. No rewards for second rate then.
Hey yes a lot has changed from when I was a kid, still not sure how I lived if they had all these silly PC things I would not have lerned a thing, I had to try to do the best I could because yes beck then we only gotawards for doing the best and the rest learned that tey had to try harder. Got my fair share of spankings even when I got hurt falling off the pulley and a chair I had rigged up for a ride from the attic to the ground with a rope. yes the attic beam broke I crashed hard, still gott a whippin and kept on kikin.
There is one very simple answer to "kids these days". Don't have them. There are way too many unfit parents out there!
Ping for President!
huh... i didnt know pro circuit had anything to do with the way kids are being raised today.
The PC world is takin us down....
Yes Mick, if your not on a PC bike you feel cheated.. LOL
What does the quote on the picture mean? One last champagne-soaked hug before the lawsuits began? What does that mean?
used to catch a lot of flack for it, but no woopie night before, morning of any race day, no matter how much she begged.....
Great job Ping !!! Love your reply to the first and third questions.
mx625 there has been a lot of bad blood there, JS buying the team and fireing him and tryinmg to ride outdoors ect..soap type stuff that I hope is over soon.
@mick, U funny!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ping, you hit the nail on the head with that frickin word "entitlement". We are all suppose to have these things? Now lets see if I can get tons of fun to go braaap, braaaap and a panic rev. Is being politcally correct the same as being full of $hit?
Sorry man, but u disgrace us on the 2nd answer...and your wife is quite cute, wth??
I am a broken up limping 42yr old, but I had still rather knock the bottom out of it than ANY other thing. And its extra good whenever I delay a bike ride; she understands the prestige that comes with being the Number One Toy.
You guys need to do more manual labor and get the ol' test levels back up to natural levels. I personally recc heavy lifting exercises myself. Does wonders for keeping bones/rubber-bands strong which is a plus too.
...oh yeha, spot-on for the 3rd q tho...LoL
It should not be called PC , Its called evolution , things are not the same as they where 20 30 years ago . Prisons are filled with people that got Abused as a child , hitting your Child will have a negative impact later in life , not allways , but most of the time , violence never worked , and never will , being strict and sticking to your guns is the way to go , If you have to resort to hitting your child , You have allready failed as a parent , and are raising a future abuser as well , Some of you will say my parents spanked me and i turned out fine , maybe you did , or maybe one day you will snap , just like your parents did , and really hurt your child , You are teaching your child , when all else fails , resort to violence ... Ping should not be giving out advice on this subject ..
Pingless, you need to slap yourself. Child abuse is unacceptable, but a few spankings here or there does not equate child abuse.
...he didn't. Big difference in spanking and hitting, Chadwick. Ask a chick.
In reference to the last letter: One again, Ping nails it.
@pingless, you are correct to a point. everyone is different. My 2 sons are completely different. What punishment that worked on one, didnt work on the other. Its simple, not everyone is the same. Nothing wrong with giving a whack on the butt of a kid that wont listen. My parents did it, and I have never been to prison.
My sons school still has some of the old ways in it. It is a public school, and they still say the "Pledge of Allegence" every day, and they say "under God" too. And nobody complains. I dont think they swat kids in the elementry or junior high though. those days are over.
And I have never felt the need to "snap" and beat my children. I gave a swat on the butt when needed. I think if I got mad I would grab them and drag them into their room yelling and it would scare them anyway, even without a spanking. But if you educate your kids between right and wrong and be strict about it, they are smart enough to know the difference. But with my youngest being 17, and a good kid, I did something right. But he still reminds me he is a teenager too.Ugh!!
Spanking and Hitting are the same , Both are Abusive... If your Child acts up in school , should the teacher be allowed to abuse your child , Make up your mind .. Babaric old schhol thinking will keep the prison full ....
pingless, obviously you have no clue as to why people end up in prison. More often then not its becasue thier parents DIDN'T SPANK THEM or do anything else with them. I work in law enforcement and wish that there were more parents that were involved in thir kids lives enough to spank them (when approperiate).
You work in law enforcement ...Nuf said ... you guys are all about violence
I say beat your kids silly. Especially if they finish fourth! What the hell is that? You work all week and spend all this dough and the little bastard doesnt have the nads to hit the triple? Bullsht!! Freakin wuss better hit the triple next moto if he knows whats good for him. All kids want is some direction and focus, and nothing gives it to them like a size 12 up their azz.
Sex and sandwiches was a success, by the way.
Wait a minute, isn't this column supposed to be about MX. Maybe I am a little biased because my 5 yr. old boy is exceptionally well behaved. But he has no interest in MX. Aaaarrrggghhh! Where did I go wrong! Ping u r hilarious! Quite an intellect I might add.
Larry is the reason for all that is wrong in the world ...Hillbilly jehad is what we are talking about here.... The wild and wonderful whites of west virginia ..look how they all turned out
@mrb186. LMAO! It is sad but so true!
Sounds like Larry would like a size 12 up his azz, and I am not talking shoes
@billc,welker,bd 200,cz mark,open class, and anyone I may have missed, other than who our favorite riders are, we seem to have similar opinions and thoughts on the mx subject and maybe even life in general. Thinkin' we are the same generation of moto heads. Where I'm going with this is why do we always seem to have a whiner in the group? Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that maybe "pingless" is actually that screwball foriener MIKE? Could he be that hard up to offend people that he has a few alias's? I do find it somewhat entertaining the way everyone jumps in and shares their commments.But to me life is a happy life, can't imagine being that frustrated. What do you guys think?
Wow u guessed it , its me Mike , yes violence is bad , peace is good , basic morals of life ... You teach your children to be violent and you get violence in return . Your comments should have Banjos in the background..
As a teacher and father of two, I have to say that if you need to spank your children you are not that great of father...Sometimes when I read these comments it is really sad to see how uneducated and brutal people can be.
We need a poll to see the age of the readers of this colomn.
Are these comments from imature dweeds or old farts with a chip on their willy.
of course there is a distint possibility its cause your all GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not teaching my kids to be violent at all, and they arent. I am teaching them there are responsibilities for thier actions. And if they are intentionally bad and disruptive, there is a punishment for it. They cannot and will not get away with doing wrong. My oldest son is 22, and my youngest is 17. And they are great guys. Very friendly, respectful, and hard working guys period. So I dont think a whack on thier butt when they were youngins hurt them one bit. I in no means at all abused my children. Not even close.
My father spanked me and I am grateful for it. I think he only had to do it two times. He would say "if you do that again you will get a spanking." After testing him a few times, I learned he was a man of his word. He never spanked me out of anger and was always calm, cool and collected. It hurt enough that I did not want to continue getting them but he never even left a bruise.
@bd200, amen brother! I have a 20 yr old son who is great. A little slap on the azz never hurt him either. I also have been very direct with him and always talking to him about right and wrong. He just hasn't learned that you don't smoke dad on the track yet. But it does feel good to show him a wheel now and then, just let him know I am there. Just like in life. lol
@ your all gay, I think you got in trouble on purpose so you would get spanked. And yes you are still gay too! lol
I think what Ping was trying to say is dont hit your kids with a closed fist. I mean for chrissakes, they aint your wife. And for Gods' sake, dont hit em in public. People look at you all weird.
@Larryg, I'm laughing and am senseing your sarcassim here. But your right, you take the little $hit behind a building, beat them to a pulp, then after take them out for ice cream so they will stop crying. I think thats what pingless does with his.
@ MD, try not to worry friend. No matter how hot the woman, some dude is tierd of F*#king her! Enjoy life to the max, get in some riding and also just "get it in"!!
Liberals suck
Pingless, I'm guessing you voted for Obama, are against the right to bear arms, want to close off land for "wilderness" purposes, believe in global warming, and... Obviously you haven't seen enough of the world to truly understand it and have that liberal "one size fits all" mentality. You have no clue what works and what doesnt for anyone other then you. You, Obama and all the other retarded liberals should go jump off of a cliff.
Huh? "not that great of father" not that great of teacher.
Right atcha brother...poor guy probly is yet another tragic example of an f'd up dysfunctional home. Sucks, and if feel sorry for him, but sad thing is, once he turns 18 he gets to cast an [uneducated] vote...
Pingless, our American Founding Fathers side with us. The cops hitting the streets and entering these f'd up homes at 2am are with us. The soldiers getting shot and their families at home, are with us. Most teachers are with us. The single moms raising abandoned, fatherless children are with us. And most of all, your average MOTOhead is with us: they believe the Bible, recite the pledge, own firearms, and royally despise elected crooks like the current Puppet-In-Chief who wants to disarm and enslave the American middle-class family and rape small businesses---ie, break the backbone of America so that we become another mini-Europe.
You HAVE read history books, no??
Ping and fellow readers. If you or anyone you know have elementary, junior or high school aged children in public school I urge you to double down, take out a second, third, fourth mortgage and spend it on private school. The California department of education has been experimenting since the early 80's on our children under the doctrine "outcome based education". Simply put, it doesn't matter what our children learn or don't learn. It's how they feel in their mediocrity. The results and continued effects of this progressive agenda has spawned generation after generation of damaged lower common denominator young adults. The only blue sky in all this is less competition for the children that were actually raised rather than just growing up.
It is folks like Pingless that have turned this country into a land of entitlement. No consequences for your actions, and hey why go out and work hard to be a productive member of society when I can take the easy way out, steal and brake the law to get mine. If I get caught they give me 3 square meals a day and free medical care. Problem with this society = not many willing to work hard to get theirs. My bet, Pingless is a Government employee.
The posts in this column just went to another level! I have been laughing pretty hard reading them though. Keep em comin. Liberals suck! No wait...... Republicans are retarded! White Power! Praise Allah! Hey did anyone catch that dirt cycle race that happened in The Big Apple on Saturday. Bam Bam 4 president(definitely a democrat with that hair!)
I told you all before , I change my name all of the time , sometimes I say negative comments about my own comments , and all of my comments are meant to start trouble , I am you and me and them , all at the same time , Then I sit back and laugh at all the pissed off comments , It is becoming a hobby of mine , to see how many people I can piss off ... You are all my Pawns , and I control your thoughts ..LOL LOL LOL Fools
Is this a gay S+m site , because it seems a little weird that grown men spend so much time talking about Spanking , By the way Pingless seems to have gotten to you all
I agree with all of Pingless comments
i dont spank,not that i dont believe in it......im afraid i wont stop...
go to an amusement park(disney,cedar point,kings island etc.) this country is skreewed!
keep preachin' ping,love it.
First, it depends on the kid and finding what he responds well to... that is upgraded parenting. Of coarse intelligence and certain personality traits are inherited. Kids need to know that there are limits and where the buck stops, otherwise you may as well let the so-called realtity shows raise them for you. Liberalism equals ignoring the facts. The PC people love to preach tolerance until they themselves are annoyed to the breaking point, then "something needs to be done". By the way, this sense of intitlement nonsense will go a long way twords ruining society. However, the mainstream media will never admit that fact.
the kids that shot up EVERY school shooting in the decade from 2000-2010 were kids that WERE NOT SPANKED...they were ignored or maybe even given a few timeouts to sit and plan their retaliation...
as an educator i have more insight than most of you parents that drop your kid off at 6 weeks old at a daycare and pick them up from graduation only to drop them off at college and be done with it...i see ur kids more than you do and i see how they feel about authority, not even going to elaborate...
pingless...typical liberal wasteland...you probably think 'no child left behind' has your childs best intentions in sight right? don't be a fool...everything physical is not abuse, otherwise you couldn't let your kid play football because that is then kids abusing kids right?
...hitters and spankers are even defined in law books and the CPS knows the difference...dont' be so black and white about it...it's not that simple...
i am glad ur not my parent
I used to be on the receiving end of a belt, flyswatter or an open hand and look how well I turned out. Okay, okay, maybe that was a bad example, but 'spare the rod, spoil the child' is right on.
Your response to the third question was spot on. Thanks for sticking your online "neck" out! Our country is headed in the wrong direction because of the way we are bringing up our kids. We are already on the downswing right now, this is just the beginning.
Die-hard conservative right-winger religious fanatics who turn the other cheek and think diciplining your child is a sin is half the problem here. So many of these people play all nicey nice when thier little Johnny is running around being wild and stupid, while they are saying in thier soft tomne voice, "Now Johnny, you know better" and he ignores them because there is no reprucussions for his behaviour. Take a normal, hard-working blue collar guy and his kids acts up and he gives him a smack on the backside and its all good. If he acts up in school, the Dad tells the Principle, "Whip his butt" While the goody-goody right-winger is screamiong, "You cant touch my kid, I will sue you"!!
what if i have a pet monkey? can i spank him? what if it is a loving spank?
Yes this country is in a mess I hope the American people can see that. It is a whole lot a peoples fault as ass we see from out chats here on Ping's page there are a whole lot of differednt opinions. There are to many people with a sence of entitlement and then take advantage of the system ie welfare and dissability frauds. Yes there are people that cannot help wherre tey are because it was they way they grew up and were taught to do.
Now I guess I will throgh my caveat into the fire, well I myself had to go on dissbilty but I worked my whole life since I was, I dunno mmowing yards and delivering papers when I was in 4th grade. I srted paying taxes when I was 15 mybe 16 but I had a job when I was 15 at a motocycle shop. After 20some years woking in electronics I went deaf still hung on till I had sold my last rental property. Not proud of being on dissbility but at age 50 with the resume I had and def it did get kinda tough. No I dont belive in entitlement and know of peope cheating also I am bassically a Republican and a Cristian I do not vote a strait ticket I am well educated in politics. I am a Charter member of AMA and a member of the NRA. I dont hide behind false names nor do I ever put a post up on this site or any other site hiding who I am. My only regret in life is I was unable to join the Military. Oh yeh I am also a member of the American Leiogon.
I like Pings articles and am glad he is not afraid to say what he thinks. Yes this is the USA as I have told people if you dont like it get out of my country. GOD Bless the United States of America.
No I did not reread what i just typed because it came from my heaart.
Don't know about US, but at least here in Nordic Countries it is illegal to hit or smack anyone (including wife, children, baby...). Somehow there is also much less violence and crime here compared to US..makes me wonder.
No need to smack your children, if they act naughty just talk with them about the issue and if it doesn't help just seize some of the nice things they have (mx-bike, cell, computer, tv, bike...) for while. At least it did the trick with my children.
According to my psychiatrist- anytime a parent uses a weapon to hit a child- it is considered child abuse. There are many forms of child abuse- there is even such a thing as 'psycological' child abuse, where no hitting is invlolved.
@Santa Claus, you are correct about one thing, there is alot of violence in the US here. Happens daily in the urban areas. But this country, (as much as I hate to say it) was built on violence. Violently took it from thr Native Indians, fought a revolution and won it from the control of the British. It is a never ending thing in the States. But we arent all like that, there are millions of very nice and welcoming people here, and alot of us got a spanking as a kid. there is a difference between that and abusing a child. If the person in question isnt smart enough to realize the difference, then they shouldnt have children.
Good thing we have Obama to point us in the right direction with our violent attitude, Putting a stop to a phoney war that has claimed to many young lives , removing Bin Laden , and getting rid of capitolism , and those stupid support the war magnets on so many cars, war is a business , and the sheeple all go bah bah !!!
Jeezus, what a bunch of sheep. I'm going to give you a short class on how things work in the United States of America Inc.
If you asked the average Tea Party supporter who the Koch Brothers are. They would look at you with a confused look on their face. Huh? Who?
Where was the Tea Party before President Obama came along? How come you weren't complaining when Dubya was in office?
Most of you including Ping have been duped. I know from some of Ping's previous articles where he stands politically. You all go on and on about how stupid liberals are. You all scream about God, guns and no new taxes. Liberals are lazy, just sit around collecting welfare blah blah blah. Don't contribute anything to society blah blah blah.
I'll bet you think Rick Perry or Michelle Bachmann would be awesome as President of the United States. They are going to fix everything in this country and everything will be ok again. Do you realize these two have been sucking on the governments teet their whole careers? both on the state and federal level. Yet, this is everything that the Tea Party supposedly hates.
I wonder how many from the right would be screaming when their Social Security checks come in the mail, and it's only for half the amount. Or it doesn't show up at all because someone like Rick Perry thought it would be a good idea to let some Wall Street hedge fund buddies handle/invest your Social Security.
Now for the Democrats? They are spineless and never get a whole hell of a lot done either. Do you ever wonder why that is? Part of it is because you can't negotiate anything with the party of NO! No compromise? oh ok. Wonder how much the Democrats are going to work with the Republicans if/when they end up back in power.
The main reason both parties suck, is because they have been bought and paid for by their corporate overlords. The people don't have any power anymore. And how does the media contribute to all of this? They are doing exactly what Washington wants them to do. Pit us against each other so we can keep arguing and bickering, while our Congressmen and the overlords steal our money in backroom deals and laugh all the way to the bank.
I know I'm also sometimes guilty of pointing my finger at one side, when the reality is THEY ARE ALL CROOKS and they don't give two shits about the American people.
The Tea Party/Republicans are not going to save you, nor the Democrats, or Ron Paul.
I guess the only thing I figure I have control of is myself. Try to be a better man, look out for and help my neighbor. Help the senior citizen that just dropped their bag of groceries in the parking lot. Take a class, learn something new, invest in yourself.
But all of the bickering about one party or the other is just a waste of time.
Life is too short.
Oh, one last thing. Some politicians and people in this country really need to get a grasp on separation of church and state. If you don't get it, maybe you need to study up on the history of our country.
Andy
Well said Andy66, but nobody will listen because "Thier" party is the right one.
That was a great post andy!
@Andy, I like what you said and makes lots sense!
spot on andy-you sound better than all the politicians. any thoughts on running for office?
Well said Andy! btw way, pingless is a lil faggot. i wuld beat ur ass so bad boy.
Very good comment Andy! I agee with most of what you said and would love to talk politics with you. Yes Ping I dont think you meant to but you managed to hit a lot of peoples nerve with your "Ping of the Week" this week.
I do have a problem the name calling and some of the things that are said sometimes,I to have got upset and maybe typed somthing not so good. I will say unless you have been better than David Pingree in MX I dont think you have any buisnes calling him names. I raced for 27 years did not wanna quit body just could not do it anymore, yes I raced agaisnt some pretty fast people at times. Came back from some pretty bad injuries got fairly good again at times. Lucky enought to see the sport evolve from the begingings up to now. Never did I have Mommy or Dadddy buy my bikes and I was the only person that wrenced on them.Yes even Motocross has become a privilided would so sorry to say that. Yes thee are some people that did it on thier own but very few.
So LETS do the Wick and may the best man win.
sorry about the typos fingers have arthritis and dont alway do what I tell them to do....
i was a bad kid who felt like I could con any had my dad not have been old school I would be in jail. halfe316 nailed it when he said some kids need to have limits. Now lets talk of the real abuse that is not letting your son who loves dirtbikes save up all his own money to buy one. Instead forcing me to wait until I was on my own I in turn bought a CR250 and became a goon. Not by choice just so much desire and so little skill.
@Welker, I remember those days. Save up my money and bought a 1971 Yamaha
125 MX for 200 bucks. I bought my own parts and wrenched on it myself. No help from my parents then. Today I have a garage full of bikes and the thrill of wrenching on them is gone. Just want to ride, I guess I am getting lazy in my older years. What is even worse is my kid has 4 bikes and guess who fixes them?
@bck, yeah some parents are kind of funny when it comes to murdercycles. You'll kill yourself on that. They just didn't understand the passion. My dad is 83 and asks me, are you still riding those things? What can a guy do? lol
That is a sad story bck, I went thru the same b.s. when I got my first car.
@Mr. David Pingree, wow look at all the comments here. Your column is always entertaining. To the few that come here and insult you I say the proof is in the puddding, all these posts and they aren't over yet, a simple measure of your success. Ignore those fools and continue on with more interesting stuff that keeps your readers posting. THANKS!!!
@Mr. David Pingree, wow look at all the comments here. Your column is always entertaining. To the few that come here and insult you I say the proof is in the puddding, all these posts and they aren't over yet, a simple measure of your success. Ignore those fools and continue on with more interesting stuff that keeps your readers posting. THANKS!!!
I agree with Pingless, My momma & daddy used to beat me, lock me in timeout in the closet for 6hrs and im ok, yes ive been to prison and was also sodomized and since my upbringing involved lots of shame and guilt it felt normal to me to have two or 4 men to take turns on me giving me rabbit punches to the head and kidneys while bottoming out with their Simons forks in my derriere. Im ok now that im out of jailand have readjusted to society - the only thing that makes me nervous is when there are two ro 4 large men standing behind me or if people offer me large amounts of tapioca pudding! But getting back to the kids raising thingy, thats how i raise my kids - timeout in the closet or in the dog kennel seems to work the best to get them inline if they dont listen and keep disturbing me while i surf internet porn! Ping for president
Pingless likes to come here and spank me while he types.