Spoiler Report: Dungey and Baggett Take Washougal
Saturday, July 23, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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The already-tight points battles in the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship just tightened up again after four more superb motos in the 250 and 450 classes, this time at Washougal MX Park in Washington. The merging storylines resulted in a pair of winners on 450s, as Ryan Dungey romped home to the overall win for the second-straight week on his Rockstar Makita Suzuki, but Ryan Villopoto matched him on points for the day to take over the 450 series’ lead by the slimmest of margings. Chad Reed, leading the points coming into the race on his TwoTwo Motorsports Bel-Ray Racing Honda, struggled just a bit after his big crash last week and finished fourth overall via 7-4 scores, with Dungey’s teammate Brett Metcalfe taking third overall for his first podium of the year.
In 250s, no surprise, the Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki boys battled hard again. Blake Baggett dominated the first moto after getting a good start and overcoming an early challenge from DNA Shred Stix Star Racing Yamaha’s Ryan Sipes to take the win. Tyla Rattray climbed up to second and Sipes teammate Kyle Cunningham took a solid third. Dean Wilson, leading the points coming into the race, got a bad start and had a tough moto coming through, even falling over while trying to pass GEICO Honda’s Justin Barcia for fourth. He settled for fifth, but then bounced back in a big way in moto two, snagging the early lead and riding strong. This time Baggett got the bad start and had to move forward to preserve the overall, while Rattray shadowed Wilson and stayed with him all the way to the end. In came down the last corner, with Rattray going for the pass but running out of room, and Wilson
Make no mistake, Dungey was the best of the 450 bunch on this day, as he lost some ground to Villopoto early in the first moto, but then closed in and attempted a pass. He tried to hit a berm on the outside, but the berm gave way and he went down, dropping him off of Villopoto’s back fender. Villopooto took the win with Trey Canard third. In moto two, Villopoto grabbed the start, but Canard crashed early, leading to a red flag situation, and Canard was transported to a local hospital complaining of pain in the same leg he broke a few months ago. Sad news there. Dungey controlled the start the second time around, ad Villopoto was all over him early. But Dungey began edging away, and pulled a gap that led to a moto win and the overall. Villopoto took second. Reed started third but admitted he didn’t quite have his normal push, and Metcalfe got by him to take third. Reed hung on with Muscle Milk Toyota’s Justin Brayton and Red Bull KTM’s Mike Alessi closing in right on him at the end, but settling for fifth and sixth.
Look for a full race report and photos later tonight right here at Racer X Online.com
In 250s, no surprise, the Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki boys battled hard again. Blake Baggett dominated the first moto after getting a good start and overcoming an early challenge from DNA Shred Stix Star Racing Yamaha’s Ryan Sipes to take the win. Tyla Rattray climbed up to second and Sipes teammate Kyle Cunningham took a solid third. Dean Wilson, leading the points coming into the race, got a bad start and had a tough moto coming through, even falling over while trying to pass GEICO Honda’s Justin Barcia for fourth. He settled for fifth, but then bounced back in a big way in moto two, snagging the early lead and riding strong. This time Baggett got the bad start and had to move forward to preserve the overall, while Rattray shadowed Wilson and stayed with him all the way to the end. In came down the last corner, with Rattray going for the pass but running out of room, and Wilson
Make no mistake, Dungey was the best of the 450 bunch on this day, as he lost some ground to Villopoto early in the first moto, but then closed in and attempted a pass. He tried to hit a berm on the outside, but the berm gave way and he went down, dropping him off of Villopoto’s back fender. Villopooto took the win with Trey Canard third. In moto two, Villopoto grabbed the start, but Canard crashed early, leading to a red flag situation, and Canard was transported to a local hospital complaining of pain in the same leg he broke a few months ago. Sad news there. Dungey controlled the start the second time around, ad Villopoto was all over him early. But Dungey began edging away, and pulled a gap that led to a moto win and the overall. Villopoto took second. Reed started third but admitted he didn’t quite have his normal push, and Metcalfe got by him to take third. Reed hung on with Muscle Milk Toyota’s Justin Brayton and Red Bull KTM’s Mike Alessi closing in right on him at the end, but settling for fifth and sixth.
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We had a great time at Washougal today. The track was awesome, the people were out, and the riders are nuts. Wishing Canard a fast recovery; even when they were carting him off the track in the mule he responded to the crowd's cheers for him. Tough dude.
I sure hope Canard is okay.
Did anyone see Vincent's left leg in slow motion? Yikes - looked like a torn knee, but maybe it will turn out to be a strain/sprain.
Yay for Dungey!! He's making it rain! On the other hand, poor Canard... He's sooo talented to just sit out. Feel better!!
restarts are BS...
how is it fair to hit reset? Each rider should be sent from the gate in the position they were in when the red flag was thrown in .5 second intervals...
mx is the only motosport that has this wrong...
@halfe316 I'm assuming your a Villopoto fan? which I am and I wish they wouldn't make it so they all start how they were from the beginning but what if they were more than .5 intervals, or less than .5 intervals.
RV got robbed with that restart. hes the real 1-1 winner today
dungey looked faster all day he earned it
Even if Villopoto would have got the holeshot in the second moto he wouldn't have won. Dungey beat him by over twenty seconds. If Villopoto had a chance at a win Dungey wouldn't have spanked him the way he did. Wake up RV2 lovers, it had nothing to do with the start, Dungey would have owned RV2 anyway.
RV2 got dominated by The Dunginator in that second moto, hes lucky RD went down in the first, he was like white on rice, red rice
I AGREE WITH 2 OF YOU. I do think Dungey had the speed today even though I want RV2 to win the title. I also think MX is nuts to do full gate restarts. It is absolutley unfair to take a Holeshot, a small gap and a rider between RV and RD and then hit reset and force him to give up what he earned. I don't think 5 second intervals is needed. I think you just let them go one after another.
Reed was the biggest beneficiary, he had nothing for Canard, Alessi or Metcalfe today. He would have lost at least 4 to 6 more points today without the crash and restart.
I sure hope that Canard is back and guns a blazin for SX ! I fell that there is not one rider out there that is a smooth as Dungy ! He is only going to get better and better every year and he already is one of the smartest riders but when RV2 is on he is very fast so I hope Reed gets his grove back and this will be a photo finish but I have to say Dungy is the one with the least amount of mistakes and will be my vote !
Come on stop with the restart not fair ! Canard was pined in and there was no safe way to get him out so they did the right thing ! Then there is not one rider including RV2 that would want the restart to happen any other way so get over it, the fastest guy one ! NO EXCUSES ! It almost sounds like super excuse maker JS7 with all the whining and excuses ! The fastest guy will take home the #1 plate in the end so if your worried then you might not be the fastest !
HWHAAATTT THE F*(K!! WHY ARE YOU PUTTIN WHO WON ON THE FRONT PAGE?? I WAS WATCHING IT IN THE MORNIN CCMMOONNN!
Great race today.
A few questions:
1) Lets say Reed pulls this thing off and wins the championship. How many total championships would his competition have? RV2=5, RD1=4, TC41=2, KW14=2(?), JW32=1...for a total of 14 total ex AMA 250/450 (125/250) champs he would have competed against to win the outdoor title. Is that on par with RC4 and JS7's undefeated seasons, considering the number of ex champs they competed against was much less than 14?
Since Reed has 4 himself, the question can be asked if RV or RD win it.
2) This got me thinking about RC's career when compared to other motorcycling champs. Since the Stefen Everts comparison has already been done I'll choose a different guy.
What is more impressive, Valentino Rossi's 9 world road racing championships and 105 grand prix victories, or RC's 15 AMA championships and 150 wins?
If you don't follow MotoGP and think that Valentiono Rossi is a spice in your moms spice rack, then maybe you shouldn't comment...just maybe.
Okay Bros, let the debate begin.
Mouth
I bet who ever wins the overall after this break takes home the title
@WTF?? ..... It's called "Spoiler Report" for one, and they do it every night after the race and then a full report later that night...every....single....week! The header with the latest news is ALWAYS there... if you don't want news about the race then DONT go to Racerx or Cylce News on race day because it happens to be their job to report ON THE RACE!
i think rv is like rc outdoors he just hasnt find his groove this summer you guys know that when hes on no one can be up front with him he just pull up huge leads maybe as we get closer to the end of the season he will push himself and find it again
i hate everyone calls js7 the fastest men on the planet when we all know mx is faster than supercross you go way faster in outdoors than in supercross and we all also know that it didnt matter if rc crash himself to dead last he would always caght up to james pass him and got the win, in 3 years james NEVER got not even one overall against ricky i admit that js7 was faster indoors but even in his last sx ricky prove to everyone that he could match js7 pace been right there with him at orlando so fastest men on the planet? thats because ricky is gone
RV and CR can't go any faster without really risking a crash, and now they know that. Dungy can go that pace with more control. Turn out the lights. It's still gonna be good though. Hoping for the best for TC.
@Mouth,You are an IDIOT.125/250 SX championship are regional championships.Why didn't you go ahead add their Lorretta's and Ponca championships as well. Then you could of had a huge number DA.125 sx has nothing to do with outdoors.How's Broc Tickle doing,How's Weiner doing.See what I mean,your kind of stupid aren't you.You must be an attorney.I was going to list this years 250 east champion as well but I couldn't even remember who won it.That how important those are.The only reason that 250 SX exist is so the Factorys can cherrypick a championship.Good try though,stupid.
@mouth, Valintionio Riser is a adult film star I think. Lookin like the red, white n blue (no not france idiots) may take the 450 and 250, your not digging for excuses allready?
Dungey seems to be in control of this championship now.
Feel terrible for Canard, but man, thats the second comeback from the same broken femur,,,,why in the heck wouldnt they let that puppy heal totally? Looked to me like the swap compression mighta snapped it while on the bike still? I think we all better hope she'll heal.....at all......correctly......Doc aint gonna be too happy i bet. Even if he ok'd him....few docs know just what it takes to race pro motos. Hope he can make sx, but I really hope it will heal correctly now. GL trey
To the rest of the idiots on here.VillaMoto is the RED PLATE holder now.I know you all are to stupid to realize RV2 and RD1 tied in points to day.Now they go on a 2 week break.Reed can heal.Villo can change his diet back to the way he had it during his other 3 outdoor championships.
so joemotocross589,do you even know whats wrong with Canard? Do you even know which leg that he had the broke femer was? I think I'll wait till they tell us whats wrong with him.
cant just slime another weld on it, and grind it off to look pretty.
yeah i do
@fred, if you cant see dungey owns rv by now,, your dreaming. Flat owned him at home this time.
MouthS3B...K-Dub has 0 titles.
. The restart sucked for RV, Even though RD was the better man RV may have had a good lead by the time RD got around the 800. OH well it is what it is. I think TC was pushing to keep pase a liitle to soon. He had 3 weeks to work before the next race now instead he is out again.
. I will be at the next 2 rounds. Reed will be 100% by thenand RV has 3 weeks to fine tune and RD just needs to stay healthy.. so this will be a good to the end now.
@joemotocross589,that grind the weld thing was pretty funny.I know he was favoring his left leg.Which leg actually was the one with the broke femur?RV is a little fatboy in heart.He's petering out at the end of the motos.He's got a whole 2weeks to change that up.I just remember how strong he was in those other championships [outdoor] that he's won.Maybe he will check his notes from those years and figure things out.We'll see.I hope Canards all right.Maybe it just scared him more that anything .
way to go rd and rv.. dung owned rv well deserved win......does anybody know the MXDN teams are figured or arent we not sending a team???usally annouced at red bud???????
ps joemotocross,RD has always owned RV at his home track.Thats nothing new.All I know is that in the end RV has always owned RD.Thats a fact.I really don't care who wins out of the trio.I like all three.I'm just leaning towards Reed because he old and how he was behind the 8 ball by starting a new team.I think Reed is the underdog therefore thats who I'm pulling for.
RD1 got held up by MA800 on start #1 and RV2 got a good jump ahead. That said there was a good chance RD1 would have still won, but he would have had to put on a aggressive pass. RD1 HOLESHOT start #2.......You could see RV2 push as hard as he could and not really come close to sticking a pass, backed it down and took 2nd/red plate.
The fact the RD is pulling faster lap times that RV in the race is pretty amazing.. The fact that RD looks like he is going 5 seconds a lap slower than RV by being so smooth doing it is even more amazing.
I was amazed watching RV in the second moto just tring eveything, riding like a wild man and looked blazing fast, but yet dungey pulls away...
Dungey definitely benefited from the restart. Would've taken him half the race to get around Alessi. If RV keeps winning a moto every weekend RD ain't winning shit.
I've NEVER been a fan of restarts... this is one thing the AMA needs to fix.
I agree with it, if the crash is in the first turn or maybe second turn. But beyond that, there is ZERO reason they cannot do a real car racing "yellow flag" where they get the flaggers out on the ENTIRE track, and force the racers to slow down and ride in a single file line.
And I'm not saying this to assume Villopoto got robbed, because I agree with those that say Dungey was just on it. He would have probably caught and passed RV, and a single file yellow would have just bunched them up and made RD catch him faster.
But I still think the restart is a dumb idea because it makes the riders re-do the most dangerous part of the race and puts more riders in danger of a first turn crash.
RD or RV, it dont matter.....good racin' is GOOD RACIN'. Too bad for Canard, I was hopin' he'd be the spoiler for the rest of the season. CR, What happened? Stage fright from last week I guess. So, great to see racing this close at this point in the season. Oh yeah, almost forgot....Way to go Metty!!!!
You guys argue w/yourselfs at home before you get on here so you sound like professional idiots.......don't you. lol...bikeless tards shut the heck up. GO REED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The rerstart difinately benefitted some , but it is what it is. You had to do that to get an injured rider off the track safely and that is the most important thing. RV2 may have been able to hold off Dungey in the 2nd moto with Alessi there, who knows. But Dungey has the speed. Last year everyone saying Dungey was a fluke, and it was a weak title. So I guess this will shut alot of mouths. RV knew he wasnt going to catch him, and settled in for the points tie on the day. That is what I dont like about the scoring system, Dungey got no advantage by winning the day, none. He and RV tied in points, they can do this all year and Dungey can take every "overall" and not win the title because RV is ahead in points right now.
Agree with WTF????....
You can't say "Spoiler Report" and then put the winners in the headline. WTF. Oxymoron. You just spoiled it with the headline for those that didn't see it yet. Luckily I DID see it but I'd be really annoyed if I hadn't yet.
Has billc dropped in yet? heheh Yeah fred, I like any of the 3 in it right now, Just pulling for rd a tad more, since the fuel thing, and I bleed yeller, thats about it. I dont think Chads gonna bring it home myself, but thats why I ride a Hodaka,....We at Hodaka have put a call in to Honda racing corp, to see if they might wanna barrow some suspension components off the super combat wombat.
Good series and and it has been a while since we had one this close with this much serious talent (deep field).
I like Kawasaki and I like RV
I am ok with Suzuki and I like RD
I hate Honda and I like CR (finally)
So I guess I am hoping to see it end as follows
1st = like/like or RV
2nd = OK/like or RD
3rd = hate/like or CR
Honda is like the Yankees to me. The team/brand you want to lose.
The restarts are fine as is. MX is a unique sport and has nothing to do with nascar rednecks or car restarts in general. The lack of pit stops, etc., lends MX a complete restart if it is called early in the race since there are no strategies involved in the race outcome due to timing of fuel stops, etc. It's the RIGHT thing to do when a rider is down on the track, maybe some of you armchair mx'ers would understand that had you been the guy laying on the track. A 250lb bike and 150lb rider is quite the projectile (ask Alessi) at 30+mph.
Restarts in motocross means everyone lines up back at the gate. Thats how it works in almost every form of motor racing except Nascar and Indy. Sometimes your favorite rider is the beneficiary of that restart, sometimes not. There is no other way to do it in motocross.
dungey looks like he s kicked it in to another gear....not sure other two contenders can match him...is dungey in villi s head or what ran him down two weeks in a row.....i think it s afitness thing dungey at this point and time is in better shape...can t wait goiin to unadilla hope to see some good racing.
Congrats to Dungey, the fastest guy won today. It sucks about the restart but it is what it is. There is not really any other way to do it. All motorcycle restarts are the same if they have to red flag the race. I really do not see another way of doing it. It was a disadvantage for RV and RD got the benefit, but they still did get out 1 and 2 out of the gate so it was still pretty equal on the restart. Now its a different story if RV get caught in a 1st turn pileup, that would really have sucked for him. The fastest guy won today, fair and square. Its good to see finally a more aggressive RD out there. Like someone posted above, its amazing to watch the 2 different riding styles of the Ryans. RD looks like he is super aggressive and flying at Mach3, while Dungey is smooth and looks a lot slower, yet they are going the same pace. Reed is not out of it, there are a lot more motos to run. Some people are mentioning about being scared, which I don't think is accurate. He was obviously sore from the crash and I doubt he had much time to prepare for this weekend like he normally would have. From the new camera shot of his crash last weekend you could really tell how hard he actually hit the ground, even though, and luckily, he hit the slope.
Is RV pushing too hard at the beginning of each race? Looks like RD might be racing a smarter race than not trying to sprint the whole race and pacing himself just a little better. I tell you one thing, starts are going to be the most important factor in the rest of the series now. These guys are so close in speed that if they do not get out in the top 3, it will be very unlikely that they will have a chance for the win.
I think the AMA should look at the possibility of adding a bonus point for the overall winner. it would make winning the overall even more important, and breake these riders swapping 1 -2 moto finishes every weekend. Some series even add a point for the fastest qualifier.
just my .02 cents.
I think Aldon Baker needs to give RV more carbs or just more food because RV has been fading at the end of motos and the 2nd motos he has nothing for Dungey. RV shouldn't get beat like that.
Dungey is the fittest right now. He lets the race come to him. He has dominated the 2nd motos,unless you empty his gas tank(literally). Speed wins in supercross RV proved that. Speed and endurance will win outdoors. I don't care who's fastest in practice.Just who's the fastest at the end of the day. Get well quickly Canard!!
Hopefully the racing at Dilla will be epic not just mediocre. To bad Stewart probably isn't showing up. He would make it interesting even know there are so many Stewart haters on here. But there is usually very little bar banging there anymore.Put the giant bumps and whoops back in at Unadilla and the best man will for sure win but leave it a high speed free way and it will make it less demanding . That was arguably the best track in the world but it has become way to jump infested and groomed. Gravity cavity is basically smooth now,the only thing that didn't get screwed up there is the grand prix hill. Remember Mickey Kessler smashing his way up Unadilla freeway? I'll still go and watch but it's like that old girlfriend that seemed better than she really was I guess. I don't know maybe she did do special things???
This is one race I will intentionally miss, its just a joke novice track which anyone could go fast on. No wonder RC hated it.
Looks like I have really arrived in life because the guy who did not get hugged or was hugged 'too' much as a child has called me, along with 50 other people, an idiot...aka FRED. I love these guys that are keyboard badasses. And spare us the humiliation of posting your address Fred, no one is going to your house to beat your sorry ass, you obviously have no friends.
The reason I put 125/250 in the question was because K-Dub had a 125 sx title, and calling those 'regional' titles insignificant is like calling the MX2 world title insignificant.
If you are suggesting a regional title is the same as a MX2 world title, then I fully agree with Fred that you are idiot.
That red flag really sucked, they could have easily have lots of yellow flags forcing riders to the right of the track in that spot. It definitelly helped dingey and hurt many other riders including RV and alesi, maybe dungey would have won anyway but it would have been much harder for him.
Your the one thqat said let the debate begin.I not the only that called you out on those stupid stats that you gave.When I call people idiots I'm just pokeing and haveing fun.The ones that are idiots know who in talking to.You must be one because you replied to.Yes the lites SX is pretty insignificant in the grand schem of titles.That series should be made into a true national series.Speaking of idiots.The other day I had called a bunch people idiots.I had said idiots about 50 times in one reply.One guy replyied back to me and asked me what a IDOTS was.I had spelled the word idiot wrong about 50 times.Now who was the idiot then.Don't post ,let the debate begin if your going to get you feelings hurt.Nobody uses the stats from lites sx unless compareing it to lites stats.When they talk about RC4 15 ama championship they don't add his two 125sx championship.
Fair enough Fred, at least you were cool about it this time.
Mike, you forgot the 'an' when insulting me, as if idiot is a species, save it though, you made your point.
I agree that MX2 totally trumps SX lites titles, however, 125 or the lites outdoor titles are real titles and could be used as ammo for my arguement. I felt compelled to throw K-Dub in the equation, so I had to use it, you dig?
It is obvious that there aren't a lot of MotoGP fans on here, which is cool, I was just curious what you guys thought because I love both sports. I wasn't even trying to be controversial, LOL.
@mybad know of a couple guys who have ridden unadilla said it was by far the roghest track they have ever ridden.... pissed blood for a couple days later....lol...oh well carmichael one guy who didn t like it....windham didn t like southwick does it make southwick a novice track everybody goes fast on too...everybody has a rite to their opnion....have u ever been to dilla?..been goin since 1986 seen alot of good racing throughout the years there..
RD has his A game,
This is RV's 1st year on a 450 for outdoors he's been out for 2yrs so it will take him a while. If the timing and scoring was more up to date you could restart the race and add or subtract the difference in time from the 1st start but that gets complicated.
@crossedup agree track has changed not for the better don t seem to be as "loamy" as it used to be more slick or hardpacked now
Ring.. ring.
Hello?
Hello... K-Dub... Honda here... Any plans next weelend?
Oops... weekend.. spell check.
That should have been funny.
C'MON like whoever said you cant put spoiler report and then post the results right there IN THE DAMN TITLE!!! if i wanna SEE the winners in the SPOILER REPORT THEN ILL CLICK ON IT!!!!!!!
same thing i thought.
Canard tweeted that he has another broken femur? How many times can you do that? He is great kid and talented racer, but even then when is enough, enough?
In his young career he has suffered so many injuries the last 3 years. In being the nature of our sport with the possiblities of injuries or even death,it looks as though Trey is really laying it on the line. It would be great to see Trey come back, but if he doesn't, I know I will truely understand. Get Well Trey.
yzpilot that was funny. dmc thanks for noticing also, back in 80-81(?) the racing was so awesome because the riders(if the tracks were like they are now you would of never heard of Jo Jo Keller) and the track were awesome, now a bunch of the riders are pretty awesome but the tracks are starting to suck. It was a chore just to go up the back straightaway(formally known as Unadilla freeway) at race speed. Now it is uneventful. When the Grand Prix stopped coming there they went downhill. I've been going there since the 60's and it seemed to get better every year until the new crop of premadonna's started complaining that alot of tracks were to rough(oww my pu--- hurts). The smooth tracks are a big reason more people are getting hurt and battle less. Taking someone out in a turn hurt less than over a jump.
I started going to Undilla in '74 for the TransAms. I remember walking the track afterwards through about 1980. Deep loam berms and the deep whoops, especially in the back section and up the staircase. When I would get there the next year, the only noticeable difference from the previous year was grass covering the track. While there must have been some blade work on portions of the track, for the most part the whoops built up from year to year and kept speeds much lower. There were even decent sized whoops on the left hand sweeper before gravity cavity. Ask any of the pros that raced Unadilla in the 70s and 80s how rough it was. Hannah loved it because it was rough and he knew he had the stamina to run 45 + 2 on that track when most anyone else could not.
You can blame the demise of Unadilla on the AMA, when the AMA forced the promoters to run amateur day on Saturdays. If memory serves this was in the early 90's. The draw was generally 1000+ racers and they raced on on the majority of the National track. The amateur races just burned out the track - the loam was gone and the rocks became even more plentiful. Too bad the Robinson's didn't have the U2 amateur track back then to keep this from happening.
There are 3 levels of retardation,...imbasul, idiot, and moron,....lets start using the proper term to discribe each individul, becouse I feel I am not a idiot , but most likely just a imbasul ?? *SP?
I think I'm a DA with a touch of moron.You can even throw in a little oldstimers.
LOL.......its just not possible that we all be idiots fred, is what i'm trying to point out. LOL heheh
I'll start it off, lets use the scale of welker for moron, all the way up to billc as yer standrd idiot, I feel I am in the mix as well. then theres cz mark,,,simple imbacile.....ill shut up now,. heheh
@Fred, I agree about the Regional supercross titles, they aret a big title, they dont even include the entire 250 class, because half of them are racing the other coeast. Its about as important as a "World" supercross title. @joemotorcross--pretty good, but some imbesuls can be pretty moronic..
I thought the track from Washougal to be a pretty good change, it was relatively smooth in most parts of the track, a few ruts developed in some turns, the track looked like a fast freeway on some spots. It was a good change of pace I think. I get tired of all the tracks hauling in tons of sand to make the track conditions the same all over the country. Red Bud has the deep dark rich soil that got really rutted, and Washougal was smooth in alot of spots and super fast. Very good. Unadill is going to an old school style GP type track, and then the brutality of Southwick, cant wait!!.
I went to the GP in '83 at the Dilla.They staked out the track.The track started out with grass or weeds that was knee to waist deep.The whole track was that way.There was this big up hill that you went up then it turned right and you dropped of downhill into the screw-U turn.That big uphill was big terraces all the way up.I don't know if thats what you're calling the staircase.That hill now is just a fast smooth uphill.It doesn't have the terraces anymore.The track back then was quite a bit different tha it is today.
@crossedup@cr500 the atmosphere was alot different too everybody was havin a good time sometimes a little too much at times.... LOL..the other side sucks...the three man slingshots launchin water balloons across gravity cavity....burnin the port a potties among oher things....glad i was able to experience it that way before everything changed...jo jo keller that guy was amazing that big and that fast...
race related.....anyone have experience with the damned shadows that were everyplace around washougal? Tell ya what (hillbilly) those are frightning at speed w/ ruts everyplace. Wonder why there isnt more talk about them? Once at band camp (delta) 5th gear wfo crossrutted shadows..... I looked like an idiot,,,,,which brings me to the joemotocross book of word origins...."idiot"... a hebrew slang term derived from imbacile by the egyptian stone carvers, to discribe their apprentice chisler when he smashed his hand. Imbacile was too many syllibals to shout.
Id have been at the riders meeting early with my pruning shears and chain saw to express my displeasure with the shadows
Joemotocross589, Thanks for the flour.I hooked up with the winner of that 300lb. wet T shirt contest that CZMark told me about.I really could of used it then.I hooked up with CZ's friend tons of fun but she's mad at me for some reason.I heard her say something about a little vienna sauage.bla bla bla.
@dmc - yes, those were the days. Things started to get crazy when Watkins Glen stopped hosting the F1 USGP in '78 or '79. Porta Potty burning was small time compared to an area at the Glen known a The Bog. The Bog was notorious for craziness. One year the "fans" (drunken idiots) managed to push a tour bus into The Bog and actually set it on fire. When the Bog closed, the idiots migrated to Unadilla and added a new dimension to "the other side sucks".
Now back to the Fred & JoeMoto show...
just stop with the restart bs... if rv was faster he would of passed dungey, he had plently of time to do so. but he decided to ride like a complete squirrel the first 5 laps and ended up wearing himself out.
@Fred and joemotocross589, you guys are funny! I needed a good laugh today.
Thankyou! Oh ya, how cool is it you guys have your own show now. lol
Remember boys, keep her well lubed up with Lucas 10/40!
@cr500AF...remember going their when i was 16 in 1986 heard alot of stories before i got there was real nervous about going but went anyway...sounded like the woodstock of motocross glad i went will never forget it....thank you for sharing the info on the dilla a lot of stuff i didn t know about it...i like hearing about history of events before i went find it interesting...i have three sons have already passed on my experiences in past with them now have more to pass on to them... 20 year old hooked on motocross other two warmin up to it....lol....crossedup...fred...cr500AF thanks again for the info and history of dilla...
I find the gold medal w/ just a touch of baking soda seems to stick to all the right places, I found my super rat stuck in her butt before, so beware fred.
I think Villopoto simply needs to eat some steaks, medium rare, to get his carnivorous bloodlust back so he can finish some motos strong again.
@BillC
The restart rally sucked.....not only was RD gonna have to deal with a hard charging Alessi but it kind of looked like Trey was determined to get around him. By the time Dungey dealt with the both of them RV would've been gone, I don't care how good Dungey's endurance is!
Like Fred said.....some fools are losing sight of the fact that RV matched him in points again! Green bike is gonna look pretty good with the red accents in two weeks!
P.S......Aldon Baker is a fraud....he's ruining the most exciting racer in motocross!