Racer X ReduX: Indianapolis
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Welcome to Redux presented by Yoshimura. And welcome to Monster Energy Supercross’ second act.
You can break this supercross season down into two parts—and since most of us look at this as entertainment, you can see it just like a movie. The first half of the season is the classic action flick—big stars, fights, explosions, and battles. But don’t look for too much meaning yet, because no matter where a rider finishes, they can always march out the “we’re just trying to be consistent,” the “we’re building on this,” and the “it’s a long season” mantras to disguise their performance.
Leader of the pack.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
No doubt, the first half of the year packs the excitement. All the stars are there, they’re all healthy, and the anticipation and hype meters are pegged. But somewhere along the way, things start to get serious. That’s the second half, when this series moves from action to drama.
We’ve arrived at that moment. Ryan Villopoto is trying to take over, and others are not where they want to be. Look at RV’s reaction after winning this one—when he won a big battle in Los Angeles, it was high fives to his team. Now he’s pointing up at God—the championship is getting closer, and now these wins are becoming life-changing. This was so much more than simply out riding everyone else for twenty laps.
Look at everyone else. James Stewart has tried to keep his chin up this season. In previous years, when Stewart has some bad races, he’d start hiding in his motor home. This year, he’s trying to keep smiling, trying to remain accessible. He was out there post-race in Houston, Atlanta, and here talking and signing. But it’s getting harder to stay positive as the points gap grows and the time remaining shrinks. James said he was, “so pissed off right now” on the podium, and told me, “it was pathetic.”
Look at Ryan Dungey. All year, we’ve been waiting to see the spark from the champ. We want something to light a fire, make him get aggressive and push that extra one percent over the edge. I saw it in Indy. He was uncharacteristically aggressive trying to pass Trey Canard on the first lap. He got aggro with Reed, too, and it cost him with a crash. But he’s trying, and he’s no longer just saying, “he’s happy to be here” and, “I’ve got to give it up to the team.” Did you hear his short, pissed off interview with Erin Bates on TV? I visited him in the Suzuki truck after the race, and it was a different Ryan Dungey. He’s pissed, he’s mad. This is serious.
Stewart is desperate for a win.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Look at Trey Canard. Three weeks ago he was the hottest rider in this series, winning in Houston and leading in San Diego. Then came the rookie mistakes—crashes or stalls in each of the last four rounds. It boiled over in Indy, where he stalled battling Dungey on the first lap, and said after, “I was so mad. I was just demoralized. It just sucked.” He even gave Dungey a tap after the race, but later apologized. The heat is on in the heat of the moment.
Then you have Reed, who had to feel the series was coming his way two weeks ago. Had he won Atlanta, and Villopoto finished third, Reed would have been just eleven points back of the leaders with an entire second half of the season remaining. Over the last two races, though, he’s been on the podium, but he has not been on pace with RV.
These are tough pills to swallow. Riders are going to start getting mad, rivalries are going to get heated. Back in 2009, Stewart and Reed only reached the blood feud level in the second half of the series. They actually spent the first half of the season complimenting each other and trying to douse any flames. By Jacksonville, though, things heated up, and the last few races became the stuff of legend.
The only reason this didn’t happen last year was because Villopoto got hurt just as the drama was about to begin. Last year after Round 10, in this column, I wrote this:
The Dunge and Villo have battled before, but they have never had friction—they even formed a common bond in the J-Law battles. But the stakes are higher now. I think that at some point in the next month, things will tighten, pressure will rise, and something crazy will happen. Maybe at St. Louis, which always seems to host wild events, or Jacksonville and Salt Lake City, where it got crazy last year.
Dungey is still searching for his first win of the year.
Photo: Matt Pavelek
Well, it did happen in St. Louis. Villopoto cleaned Dungey out, and then Dungey tried to catch back up. The end of that race was set to be a thriller, until Villopoto crashed. It would have been so on.
This season is not going to go away quietly. There are too many personalities with too many personal stories. Consider these conflicts: In 2008, Kawasaki chose to let long-time employee Stewart walk and invest their future in Villopoto. Now the Kawi/Villo team is trying (and so far succeeding) in taking Stewart down for a championship. Villopoto also has Aldon Baker, the trainer who Stewart let go last summer. If you’re Stewart, you’re getting beat by your old team and trainer. You’re also dealing with team turnover, as Larry Brooks continues “to take family time” if you actually believe that. James is in complete control of his team right now, but he’s raced five supercrosses in a row without a win for the first time in his career. Fever is going to be getting hot.
Consider that Chad Reed rode for Kawasaki last year, too. He had a two-year deal with the team, but they both decided to part ways since the relationship didn’t really work out well for either side. The factories officially closed their doors to Chad this fall. This season, he has a chance to stick it to them all if he can beat them.
Consider that Dungey had to dodge the, “Did you only win last year because everyone got hurt?” question last year. And now, with Villopoto, Stewart and Reed healthy, he’s sitting behind each of them in points. It was easier to accept this early in the season, when there was still time to get wins, capitalize on mistakes and get this championship again. Now it’s a more dire situation. Don’t forget that when Roger DeCoster and Ian Harrison were over at Suzuki, whatever the team touched—Carmichael, Reed, and Dungey—turned to gold. Now his RM-Z450 has endured two mechanical problems this season. Does the new management really have anything to do with that? Of course not. But this is a mental game, and at this time of year, everything gets magnified. And if you’re over in the KTM rig right across the pits, why not go chat with The Dunge and plant that seed? (Oh, and just forget about that malfunction for Andrew Short this weekend. Teething problems we’ll have fixed next year. Move along.)
Reed is holding on by a thread.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
These riders are defined by their results, their choices and the people who surround them. In stick and ball sports, each athlete is just part of a team. In this sport, the athlete is the team—you’re not rooting for the Sox, you’re rooting for the Reed. Hardcore fans like us can define entire calendar years of our lives based on someone else’s performance on a dirt bike—2009 was the year Stewart and Reed squared off. Two-thousand-seven was the year Ricky Carmichael retired. Two-thousand-six was the year Carmichael, Stewart and Reed went down to Vegas for the title. 1992? The year Bradshaw blew it. 1996? The year MC nearly won them all.
These next few weekends will present life-changing opportunities. Dungey needs to get some wins. Stewart needs to mount an offensive. Canard needs to rebound. Villopoto needs to not throw it away. No more action movie fun. This is true drama.
The Lites class presented a similar story, with Ryan Sipes finally getting that elusive first win. It’s big not only for Sipes, but for his whole family, who just lives this thing (Ryan’s younger brother Justin is in the mix every week, too, with dad still going to all the races and spinning the wrenches for him). It’s also big for all the other riders who came so close so many times—dudes like Brett Metcalfe. After awhile, people start thinking that perhaps winning is some sort of mental block. Sipes proved you can get it done. (And damn, Metty would have done the same if his darned bike didn’t run out of gas at Southwick. But this is what I’m talking about. Seems like some of these guys have to ride under this strange cloud of bad luck. Awesome for Sipes to break through.)
Was this just one, or one of many for Sipes?
Photo: Matt Pavelek
The next question is, what will this win do for Sipes? Is this the breakthrough he needs to mount a streak and make a run for the title? He’s only twelve points down. Then again, I figured Wilson and Baggett would get on a roll after they won in Atlanta and Daytona, too. With a few mistakes from those Kawboys, and Barcia still on the mend, this title is waiting to be taken, and maybe, just maybe, Sipes can do it.
By the way, when Sipes finally crossed the finish with the win, the press box erupted into applause. We were all behind a glass window so we couldn’t hear the crowd and the crowd couldn’t hear us. It was pointless, but that many industry people were that pumped for Sipes. I don’t remember the last time I heard a round of applause after a rider won a race.
What’s also interesting is how no one takes shots at Dungey. Would be really easy for any of the riders or teams who were out last year to take a swing at him, but everyone seems to agree that he’s riding well, and just hasn’t caught the right breaks. If his peers think he’s riding well, then he must be, because obviously competition isn’t going to pay you a compliment unless you really, really deserve it.
A few years ago, I was the weird announcer guy at the races who did a lot of interviews but never actually had time to actually talk to people down in the pits. Big thanks to Steve Matthes for showing me the hot lines in the pits—remember, Matthes started out as a mechanic, so he was down in the pits and factory semi trucks long before he was an internet journalist, so he knows the ropes. To think, a few years ago the only person I really spoke to at the JGR team was Josh Summey, and even that was only because Matthes made us become friends over our mutual love for GNCC. Now I waltz into that JGR truck like I own the thing. And I just moved to Charlotte so their shop is next.
Brayton is once again having an under-the-radar-type of year.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
I’ve also learned to take advantage of Monster Energy Kawasaki’s generous hospitality (I have to steal food from teams now, back in the Webcast days I would get to eat from the Feld staff spread). This week I officially went too far when I ventured into the Kawi truck without Matthes and started eating their wings and hot dogs. Matthes showed up a few minutes later, and I was already deep into bro-ing and chowing down with the team. Then they proceeded to make fun of him, and I laughed along while stuffing another hotdog down. Ah, how quickly the student turns on the teacher!
And there’s lots of comedy over at that Kawi truck. Just light the fuse by claiming Villopoto is getting gifted these wins, then watch the fireworks. The show goes on, smack gets talked, and then Villo himself usually walks in toward the end of the convo as the grand finale. It’s like we’re the opening act, just waiting for the headliner to come in and really light up the audience. Good times.
This one was clearly not a gift—although I did tweet, “RV got lucky again by out riding everyone for 20 laps and winning.” He’s firing on all cylinders right now—bike looks good, team is solid, he’s in shape, and his riding style has been refined so much through the years, it seems unlikely that he will throw it away. Even on a track like Indy, with so many ruts and tricky sections, he barely makes mistakes, and when he does, he calmly puts the bike back where it should go and avoids catastrophe. I wrote the same thing about him at Daytona, but he won there, too, so I guess the story is the same. And if you don’t believe me, check out this interview we did with Ryan Hughes way back in Los Angeles.
Last week on our weekly (must listen!) Racer X podcast with Matthes, Ping and myself, we asked if Malcolm Stewart had what it took to be a top five or podium guy. I wondered if he could really hit his marks for fifteen laps. Well, he apparently can, because he finished a solid, quiet fourth. No huge crashes or mistakes that anyone seemed to notice. This is real progress.
And speaking of a quiet, solid ride, guess who peeked back into the top five this weekend? Everyone’s favorite unnoticed guy, Justin Brayton! Realtree has had a few tough weeks, but he was back in the mix this time. I do know he changed a shock setting based on what he learned for Daytona and I’m sure that made all the difference. Since I now live near the Gibbs guys, I am upgrading my love for this team significantly, and may just start calling JB10 “Perfect 10.” Depends on how many free lunches I can get out of the team. What’s it worth, boys?
Lil Stewy is starting to make a name for himself.
Photo: Matt Pavelek
Also want to give credit to Matt Lemoine, who made up for stalling out of fifth last week in Lites by actually getting fifth this time. Nice ride by Les Smith to get into the top ten, and bummer for Hunter Hewitt, who had been riding really well lately, but dropped out on the first lap of this one with a crash. Also Jason Anderson had a rough night, and now my predictions of him being the next big thing aren’t looking quite as sharp. Hopefully he’ll rebound.
Finally, Indianapolis is now the official winner for the most underrated city in America. It's made up entirely of hotels (six Marriott's alone), restaurants, and arenas/stadiums and fields. Downtown was absolutely jamming on Friday night, and it was so crazy on Saturday night that we couldn’t even find a place to get into. Long lines out the door of every place for blocks. Maybe you don’t have Indy in March up there with Vegas in May, but clearly a whole bunch of other people do. If you come to this race, you will enjoy this race.
That’s it from Indy for me. Shoot (or just send) me an email at [email protected].
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"Andrew Short this weekend. Teething problems we’ll have fixed next year. Move along."
So, what happened to the 350? I won't tell anyone!
"his riding style has been refined so much through the years, it seems unlikely that he will throw it away." haha. nevermind. Now I'm just being a snot.
Seriously acejas, this isn't the 2010 RV.
NICE JOB WEEGE
Dungey is pissed and mad because he can't beat these guys.Last year, he didnt have to ride "aggro" or race from 4th or 5th with riders like Reed, Canard, Stewart and Poto in front of him. The "we are working on a few things" and "we are not there yet" do not fly this deep into the season.The only drama last year after PHX is when RV finally got rolling and started to dominate the series until tragedy struck and RD coasted in for the championship. Lap times are laptimes , but racing the competiton is another....He was "aggro" on Reed for 15 laps and still didnt pass him while RV and JS7 went by Reed like he was Mike Alessi.
Excellent Redux Weege !..No BS, just the facts, and excellent observations made!
I agree, RV of 2011 is different from the RV of 2010...Just looking at him standing on the track there is a difference. He is leaner yet stronger, more patient yet even faster and I have not seen many of the RC type flying off the bike scenarios that RV had in the past...very impressed and a title he deserves as he was on his way last year...GO VILLOMOTO!!!
Wow haha. Actually Jason your statement was reinforcing my point under the "sign of the lap" messege boards. I was just ribbing someone with it. I totally agree with you!! Actually kinda starstruck right now.
I am not trying to down play RD's skill and talent either, he is a great rider.Fact of the matter is, at the opening rounds this year he looked just as good as last year, if not better in my opinion. He just needs to get "better" to beat these guys...I dont think he needs spark or fire, he needs to get better....better than he was last year...his speed last year doesn't cut it this year
CR500AF, go back and see my reply.
RD IS MAD!!!! This is what I have been waiting for!! I want to see what this kid has in the tank!!! Let it hang out RD YOU are REAL close in speed just need to hang it out some!!! The time is NOW to go for it!! You need some wins!!! PUSH yourself to the front and don't back down!!!
JMoto, in one of the articles on here yesterday, one of the guys (I think Matthes) wrote that it was a problem with the throttle position sensor on Shorty's bike.
Rick Melon RD's speed is there, his problem is one I pointed out LAST YEAR, He stinks at passing guy's!! He was Way faster then REED but could NOT GET BY!!! RV and JS fly by people and RD waits and waits. It worked last year because he could wear down guys but you can't wear down, Reed, JS or RV... Not going to happen. I pointed this out last year many times and got slammed for it. I remember one race when TC was on a 450 and holeshot, RV went by on lap 2 no problem, RD was behind RV when he went by TC, Then RD could not get by TC for like 5 laps. By then RV had a 8 sec lead and the race was over. People told me I was dumb and Bla Bla Bla but I said it will bit him one day and the day is here now.
Nice work on the redux Weege! Glad to hear that they're wooping it up in the Kawi pits! RV's pretty solid these days and IMO it's his ch-ship to lose!
RV Park should be thankfull for all the gift giving riders giving gifts. Handing him a freebie, a gratis, an early christmas present gift wrapped from the lottery, dropped in his lap and given to him! Noel....
Hey Jason, didn't see you at the GNCC opener this year!
Great article by the way!
Very good redux Jason, I have nothing to add but it not over yet. Lets keep racing!
nice 'Winners Take All' ref.
RV is certainly prepared to win this year,,did his homework and is making the grade big time,,Dungey is way to nice to stuff anyone and its really starting to show,,he has the speed and I would like to see him and Canardy stick it to Reed and Steward as well as the rest,,they are by far the nicest guys to see talk with...Canard is my fav. the kid has moxie and a great wealth of integrity..his articles in the mag are some of the best in the print,,you go Trey,,ya gotta fan here in baja.
Acejas--ah sorry about that, didn't realize that was for someone else. No worries!
Barkbuster--I was there on Tuesday for the bike opener in FL, had a good time hanging out and watching, but I only grabbed the mic sporadically, so you may not have noticed. It's gonna' be an awesome season in that series, kinda reminds me of this SX tour!
Here is ricky and bubba's greatest hits:
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3TOIfy85s
At 0:12 in: Ricky enjoys the mud of 2005 Anahiem 1 , which was stewart's first ever race in the big bike class. Ricky got 3rd and stewart got 6th.
At 0:53 in: Ricky trying to catch Reed at daytona 2003. I was standing right in front of him, 5 feet away. Reed was on another level that day.
At 4:03 in: If you think that stewart got his bell rung at daytona last week, this is him at 2006 daytona. He got up, and still made it to sixth place. The next sequence, is r/c cutting the track in detroit, during the controversial 2006 supercross season. Then it's..... 'the GOAT' vs. 'the BOAT'.
At 4:55 in: 2006 outdoors, first, we see stewarts crash at hi-point, round two, when he cross-rutted. Then we see southwick, round three. You can see the smoke coming off stewarts bike, as the motor seizes up. Damn... those were two HARD crashes, and both were during the first three, of twelve rounds. He had to sit out the fourth round, he was so busted up, still.
At 5:25 in: The GOAT was not only talented at racing, but when crashing as well. In addition to making some fantastic saves ON the track, and narrowly missing some large watercraft OFF the track, he even had the ability to land on his feet, after a gnarly get-off like this one. Just a tremendous athlete, all around.
At 5:58 in: Toronto 2006. Reed and stewart battling hard for the win, on lap seventeen. Reed hits stewart's bike from behind, coming up the face of the finish line double. Stewart goes off the track, and is blindsided by the huge jump to his right, which is the second jump of the double, (The only flagman that I can see in this video, is standing on the first jump, there is no flagman on the second one). Stewart has just gotten his ASS punted off the track, by his old buddy Reed, and now it is ON, with three laps to go ! ! So, he pulls out onto the track, and pursues reed to the finish. However, preston does not see him, until he is already in the air, and hits stewart upon landing. Note that this is the infamous 'incident', which has branded stewart as being a 'careless rider', who will just 'pull out onto the track, without even looking'. Does anyone know of any other u-tubes of him pulling out onto a race track ?
You seem to be attempting to stir up interest in what has been a rather uneventful season ... at best. I sure hope you are correct and something happens! SX/MX needs some excitement.
Ooops !
And, at 0:40 in: 2005 phoenix, round 2. Stewart's practice crash, which broke his arm.
vr2 is the next big thing how hard is it
you must mean vyan rillopoto then.
I'd like to see Canard & Reed get some more wins and Dungey to start winning. With several wins from each of the "top 5" and a close enough points gap to make Vegas relevant for all five, I wouldn't care who wins. That would be a truly memorable season AND one heck of an intro to the MX series. Or maybe a sleeper coming from out of the woodwork to win one........
Is KTM ever going to try a 450 at supercross? The 350 doesn't make sense against the 450s. Cause they aren't doing well in the 450s!!! Is Factory Suzuki lowering the budget which may be causing the dungey problems?
I visit this site.
Thank You JW!
canadianmxfan Short is right where he would be on a 450, so how do you say the 350 is not doing well?? Last year Short rode a Honda 450 and ran 3rd thru 5th most times with out JS, Reed, TC and RV there so now he is another 3 spots back so its NOT the bike. I would bet RV or JS could win on a 350.
Stewart vs. Villopoto, supercross and outdoors, win % since moving up to the 450 class.
Stewart has won 56 races out of a possible 118, which is 47% ( * if you were to include the summer of 2009, it would be 130 and 43%). He has won the title, in 3 of a possible 11 series, which is 27%. ( * or 3 of 12 which is 25%)
Villopoto has won 15 races out of a possible 42, which is 36%. IF..... he wins this supercross title, he will have won the title, in 1 of a possible 5 series, which is 20%. (otherwise it's 0%)
I wish i could do one for carmichael, but it is absolutely impossible.
Why would you not include 2009?? If it was because he didnt ride it, then you cant include 2010 on RV's stats either..
oops... do over...
Stewart vs. Villopoto, supercross and outdoors, win % since moving up to the 450 class.
Stewart has won 56 races out of a possible 162, which is 35% ( * if you were to include the 'summer of 2009', it would be 174 and 32%). He has won the title, in 3 of a possible 11 series, which is 27%. ( * or 3 of 12 which is 25%)
Villopoto has won 15 races out of a possible 58, which is 26%. IF..... he wins this supercross title, he will have won the title, in 1 of a possible 5 series, which is 20%. (otherwise it's 0%)
I wish i could do one for carmichael, but it is absolutely impossible.
BILLC, they might win with the 350, they might not. It IS down on power to the 450 alot, especially in the usable portion of the powerband. Remember when Short and Alessi BOTH used to be holeshot kings?? When was the last time either of them holeshot anything??
I have it listed as' with' and 'without' the 2009 'summer off '. It wasn't missed due to an injury, so I am not sure if it should be included or not. Let the people decide.
So, this includes everything. 29 races per year are accounted for, for both riders.
canadianmxfan.. According to pulpmx.. DeCoster said the riders will be able to choose between the 350 & 450 for the upcoming MX season...
And the 350's biggest problem is... The bike is not or hardly lighter then the 450... Which basically kills the bike's advantage.
Strangely, stock production the 350 is lighter then the 450... Rode it and I love it! If the budget permits, might try to get one at the end of the year. Have now other priorities.
For now, they will see out the SX season with the 350.. And regroup for next year and try again with the 350 (SX wise).
I know for a fact that KTM is remaining focused on the 350 for the foreseeable future... So do not think they will ever ditch the 350 efforts anytime soon.
When carmichael's 82% win percentage was determined, they did not include the 2004 sx season, where he sat out with knee surgery. So, does that mean that he 'lost' a title? The 82%, was for the races he 'competed in'. If stewart and villopoto have 'lost' titles due to injury, then so has carmichael.
Trick,
Do a % of wins to total races since turning pro and a titles since turning pro.
Be interesting to see how they stack up over their career. Kind of a life time achievement (to date) stats.
I suspect the numbers will flip
Jason,
IMO this has been the best article of the season. Seemed to lay it out as it is and did not do any pandering to riders or industry darlings. - Nice work
BD200 I agree 100% with ya, The point I was making to Canada guy was that he should not blaim the bike because Short would not do any better on a 450... So I am not ready to through out the 350 because Short can't win on it thats all.
Trick IMO ya should only count Races they started. Ya can't win or lose if ya don't race so why count it?? Going win's VS Starts is the best way IMO.
Jason, Thank You, excellent write up.
We, as SX fans/addicts, are really blessed this season so far but man every week, this one included, there is the hope for a different winner so the points gap can close. RV is baddass but now I am hoping for any of the other 4 guys to win just to attempt to maintain the intense excitement all the way to Vegas. I'll be at Hangtown and I truely hope all 5 of these top guys are healthy and ready to rip for MX. In the meantime, this SX season is so cool and how lucky we have been to get so many LIVE telecasts. I'm going riding!!
it's a lot of work to do it, so lets all decide how it should be formatted. do we look at ALL of the races, that they COULD have raced in, if they were not out/ injured or making tv shows? Or, just the races that they actually lined up at the gate for. Which is it? lets get some more opinions out there please...Remember that carmichael's 2004 sx non-season is NEVER used against him, when compiling records and stats.
weege, i like how you are including some historical references in your current article. That is how it should be done. Kudo's>
Also, the previous analysis i did of their 125/lites win %, only included the times they actually raced. villopoto did not miss any races, and stewart missed 4 races at the start of '03 outdoors (which i did not count).
Trick MY opinion is the only one that counts!!! LOL
about the 350, I heard Chad Reed say ,"hey, it's the 450 class", the big bikes!! The Riders in the big class don't seem happy. I wana see a level playing field,so any underdog has a better chance with oodles of power in his engine. I see it as punishment. Short and Alessi might do better or mabey be happier. Could be a mental thing.BUT thats really great to hear that KTM is lettting the riders choose for the outdoors. Good call, must be Rogers influence. I just wana see Roger Decoster happy with progress and results on the podium. Get Pourcel on a KTM 450.....
I mean the KTM 350 riders don't seem happy.
canadianmxfan.. Reed is a fence sitter.. He is very much capable of kissing ass and praise the heavens the 350 of KTM.,..
You give Reed huge sums of $$.. he will be the best advocate for the 350...
I doubt the riders are not complaining? Short is already happy he has a factory ride.. And Alessi.. He shud be kissing the ground DeCoster walks to have a ride..
Maybe.. I think that KTM is just playing it safe for the outdoors... And most probably the development is not going at the pace they were hoping for.
Plus... For the outdoors... Difference between the world championship and the US.. In Europe, they have big names riding their bikes... And over here.. The 350 gets the desired results.
2011 is basically a learning year.
that makes a lot of sense didierlotsyeng. Those two guys are very lucky to be on a factory team with Roger DEcoster. I feel bad for Dungey cause he is without DeCoster. I am very curious to see how KTM does in the OUTDOORS.! I think Mike Alessi will do very well.