Racer X ReduX: Houston
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 | 5:20 PM
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There are two kinds of classic supercross races. In one, you get a back and forth battle at the front of the pack with the best riders in the game. This year, we got that race in Los Angeles. The other is the wild one, with commotion all over the track, contenders spread out everywhere, unpredictability’s around every corner, and a surprise winner. That was the race we saw in Houston. We thought 2011 would be something special, and so far I’m believing the hype!
The Houston race was the one we wish all Supercrosses could match. It let so many riders take a turn as the star. In this one, you had attention on Kevin Windham, Trey Canard, Ryan Dungey, James Stewart, Jason Thomas, Ryan Villopoto, Davi Millsaps, Chad Reed…rarely is the spotlight so wide in this sport. Heck, it got so crazy that, from up in the press box, I had to use the cheers of the fans as a guide to what was going on. I’m watching Dungey battle Millsaps, and all of a sudden I would just hear a massive roar from the crowd. Everyone in the press box would yell “What? What happened?” and then you’d realize Stewart was down on the ground with JT. Then you’d be checking on Villopoto’s progress, and you’d hear another huge roar. “What? What happened?” Windham had wadded up while leading.
For real, there was too much to watch and too much to cover. Where do we even start?
Houston got wild early.
Photo: Simon Cudby
I think we have to go with the track here. Several of the tracks this year have lacked for passing spots—last week’s A2 track was really difficult to pass on—and this one was no different. The riders’ opinions were split, but only because you had guys who complained, and guys who wanted to complain but just kept it to themselves. You didn’t hear anyone say they liked the layout.
Now granted, we can go all crazy here and get out the pitchforks for the track crew. (Incidentally, I found out last week that pitchfork is actually spelled with one word. Now you know, too. Redux—the column of education!)
Oh yeah, so, where were we? Pitchforks for the track crew? Well, yeah, the Houston track was tight and didn’t offer much passing. But that’s a two-way street. Think of this: a tight track with limited passing makes for awesome racing if the fast dudes start in the back. Villopoto and Stewart had won all five races this year, but they ended lap one in 12th and 15th. On this track, there was no way they could come all the way through. Someone else was going to win!
Over the years I’ve heard a million suggestions on how to make better racing, but every one of them has the equal and opposite reaction. A tight track with less passing room should make the racing worse—but in this case, it was better. I’ve heard people suggest outlawing factory bikes to tighten up the racing, too. But sometimes good bikes make the racing better, especially if the fastest guy isn’t on the best bike, and the second fastest guy is.
So on this night, the track worked, and if Kevin Windham had just held on to win the darned thing, not a single fan in the stands would have had a problem with any of it.
Windham uncharacteristically made the mistake that would cost him the win.
Photo: Simon Cudby
But he didn’t. Uncharacteristically, K-Dub just threw it away. Coming into this race, which scenario was more unlikely: Windham wins, or Windham is on his way to winning and wads it up? I think somehow the second one was even more unlikely, and yet, it happened.
It was a huge crash. Kevin walked off under his own power, but he was hurt. I saw him in the pits later. Looking for a scoop, I asked for an interview, and it went like this:
“Man can you talk?”
“Not really. I’m on a lot of morphine right now so I really shouldn’t”
“Okay I understand. Does anything specific hurt? Any major injuries?”
“I’m on so much morphine right now I’m not really sure.”
Fair enough. I texted Kevin today, he said he’s banged up and broken hearted. He’s also at the doctor to make sure that’s about it. I’ll let you know as soon as we know more.
So Windham was out. Reed, Stewart and Villopoto were way back. Canard and Dungey were the next best candidates for victory, but neither guy was exactly lighting it up. I’ve seen both ride better this year, and I suspect the track may have had something to do with that. It was like everyone had to just concentrate on the track instead of charging and racing and challenge each other. Heck, it even bit Windham, one of the most precise riders of all.
For a good portion of the main, I couldn’t understand what was taking Dungey so long to get going. After losing a huge pile of points last week, this was his golden opportunity to make up a ton of ground. Well, I guess this is why he’s supercross champ and I’m not—with a few laps left, he had worked his way right up to the leader and made a pass!
Dungey and Canard went back and forth most of the night.
Photo: Simon Cudby
That got Canard going. He seemed to be riding conservative, as if he was trying not to lose the race instead of trying to win it. The instant The Dunge made the move, Canard found the mojo, got aggressive, and actually pulled back away! What an awesome show of heart and determination.
Here’s where I should just go on with 500 words on how awesome Canard is. But does anyone need convincing? Who doesn’t like this guy? What’s not to like? There’s nothing better than seeing a guy who does it all right—good guy, has talent, takes advantage of it by working hard—get the reward. Suffice to say that if Windham couldn’t get it, Canard is second on the feel-good story of the night.
As for Dungey, last week’s chain derailment looks even worse now. He’s still 31 points behind Villopoto. If he had just even finished fifth last week, he would have scored 15 more points than he did, putting him at a manageable 16-point deficit. But hey, just four or five more crazy races like this and he’ll be right back in it!
This tough Houston track really highlighted the difference between the experienced riders of the SX class and the wide-open kids in the Lites division. Where Canard and Dungey looked to be trying to minimize their mistakes, it seemed like the whole Lites class was just going “grip it and rip it” all night. Take Darryn Durham. Dude grabs the holeshot in his heat race, has title-favorite Dean Wilson on him, and just rides WFO to hold him off. It was crazy the stuff DD was going feet off the pegs, hanging it out—the two battled and bumped tough blocks during the race. Unfortunately, Durham got a broken foot for his efforts—and it’s worth noting that he was still fighting for the lead even after he broke the foot.
Durham was leading his heat race before breaking his foot.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Obviously Justin Barcia was hanging it out at times, too, because that’s what he does. There’s no love lost between Barcia and Wilson, and that was motivation enough. Before the race, Wilson admitted he wasn’t back to full speed after a shoulder injury, and I heard some of the Kawasaki guys saying he may not have the full 15 laps yet, either. He could have just cruised for second, but not against Barcia. These cats scratched and clawed at each other, finding places to pass on a track that doesn’t have places to pass, and generally riding the very fine line between dirty and aggressive. And it was fun to watch! Some of the pass attempts by Barcia resulted in zero corner speed and slower lap times, but that’s both A) what it took on this track and B) classic Bam Bam form.
Meanwhile, Blake Wharton nearly caught up to them from third, with Ryan Sipes bearing down on him. Then Sipes tried a pass on the inside of Wharton, which had about zero chance of working. And it didn’t. They collided and hit the deck, allowing Blake Baggett to slash his way from the 18th gate pick and a horrible start to the podium. Two dudes block passing each other for the lead, and two other dudes knocking each other down for third. That’s how you do it in the Lites class!
There's no love lost between these two.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Oh but there was one big collision in the SX class. Maybe you heard about it? This Stewart guy was coming through the pack and ran into the back of Jason Thomas? Not sure if you heard about that one.
Listen, you can watch this pass over and over in slow-mo (which, by the sounds of our comment threads here on the site, some of you have). But riders aren’t riding in slow motion. Things happen fast, and I really don’t know which side to come down on this one. JT and Mike “trying hard now” Alessi slowed each other up and messed up a rhythm lane, and Stewart’s closing speed brought him right into JT. Maybe Stewart could have purposely taken a slower route through the section just in case those guys tangled, but only in hindsight does that strategy make sense. Bottom line: when a guy is coming through the pack, stuff happens.
After the race, Reed, as always the most outspoken in regards to the track, explained that you simply couldn’t make passes, you had to just wait for the guy in front of you to make a mistake. But what if that guy makes a mistake right in front of you?
I also asked Brett Metcalfe where you could make a pass. He said the big rhythm lane where Windham went down presented the possibility—you “just had to go inside.” But a lot of guys figured that out, like Millsaps. “I would try to go inside and Davi just had that covered,” said Metty. Props to Millsaps on a good ride and a good fight. He also had the fastest lap of the night, which is something Millsaps used to do fairly often. By the way, this is now two weekends in a row where Metty and ‘Saps have been pretty much glued to each other during the races.
Chisholm had a big get off in Houston. Get well soon KC.
Photo: Simon Cudby
You know how cruel racing can be? Last week I said Kyle Chisholm was behind only Justin Brayton if I was going to hand out a most-improved award. Well, this week Brayton got ruined in that first turn crash—he and Chris Blose were nearly lapped by the time they got untangled from the carnage. I was, however, pumped that JB was sporting a new butt patch via the guys at Shift. It said “Quietly” because I like to joke that no matter where he finishes, it’s considered a quiet finish.
Poor Chizz had it worst of all. He was fifth-fastest in the second practice, looking stronger and faster and more confident than ever. I visited him before the main and he seemed happy and relaxed, ready for good things to happen.
And then he goes down hard in his heat race and is knocked out of the race. Just when he was building all of that momentum! The last I’ve heard, he has a long contusion and is still in the hospital. Get well soon, KC.
That’s it from me. Send me an email [email protected] if you want to chat Houston, crazy Texas roads and wrong turns (made one driving to and from the track on Saturday) or getting made fun of by the JGR guys for my elbows up riding style, or anything else on your mind.
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Good article, glad to hear that K-Dub may not be seriously injured. Thats good, but I would have loved to see him win that.
That track did suck for passing ( like most of them do ).. They also should be outlawed for making first turns that way.. The Houston SX track has sucked ever since they moved it to that stadium.
Unbelievable race!
poor dean wilson, he got 'played with' by barcia. just like a kitty and a ball of string.
wilson was the ball of string. at no time during the finals did barcia even look slightly concerned by wilson. i used to be a wilson fan, but his cry baby comments on the podium to ol leather face(erin bates) absolutely ruined it.
barcia wasn't dirty. he rode like a man, wilson rode like a boy.
all barcia had to do was bump him a few times,and rattle him some too, and wilson faded.it was over just after mid race.
i hope wilson has something next round for barcia, cause barcia looks like he is on a whole other level than the rest of the east dudes. mentally and physically.
bam, bam.
i love the 'whats up there little tiger?' look barcia is giving wilson.
classic.
"Bottom line: when a guy is coming through the pack, stuff happens." Yep, it does,or can, no matter WHO it is!!
It's refreshing to see a guys like Barcia and Hanny ruffling everyone's feathers. It means our sport still has that all important piece of any type of racing. BALLS. Don't get me wrong, I think dirty riding is stupid, but aggressive riding is the shiz.
Stacy Kohut... Your first post is actual retarded.
Your second however, made me laugh.
I personally hope Stewart loses but I can see thanks to my DVR that there was no way he could've known the guy in front of him was gonna case the jump as he pulled a perfect triple. No way.
Over at Transworld, Wilson said that he doesn't match Barcia's agression and he would have to go to the test track and work on it with Hanny. He also said, " I'm Barcia's ***** right now." I did not hear his podium speech, but this sounds like he is owning up to the situation.
They bleeped me. That was b***h. Also Wilson is still not 100% coming off his shoulder injury. I think there will be more battles to come.
what whatever said.... I second that
Barcia is RACING !! If rubbing happens it happens. This kid goes forward regardless of who is in front of him. Funny not to hear any comments about lil Hanny punting riders off the track in the west. I like the tough racing. If it ruffles your feathers Deany, there's always golf.
T-man.,... one outta 2 ain't bad.
last time i checked batting .500 would get ya in the hall of fame.
didn't like the leather face reference?
This Supercross was awesome, the track may have sucked but it worked out for good racing. The 1st corner was sketchy it destroyed everyone off the start! Proud of Canard for his 1st win, feel bad for K-Dub! Barcia was aggressive but not dirty. If Wilson can't handle the hard racing then he doesn't belong on top! Supercross is the best sport on earth and they proved why in Houston!
MxSxplanet.com
The East West Shootout in Vegas is gonna be good....
Barcia vs Hansen Slam Fest
Yeah i think sipes had blake confused with his brother who cost him the win last year by being a dummy lapper..so blake kinda deserved it :)..pesonally i think sipes can run up with barcia and dean ..Hotlanta is gonna be great..east coast lites are more interesting and stacked than west..
good for racing? I guess, if you think the title should go to whoever is the best at picking there bike out of a pileup the fastest..
you said it griffter.
barcia VS hansen 2011.
can't wait.
Why is the "supercross" class so nicey nicey! You got bump people out of the good line some time! And it amazes me nobody talking about bone head ryan sipes t-bone special of blake wharton! Before a triple no-less? Oh because its bubba it's a very BIG DEAL i get it! Im headed to SD sat. night but its suppose to rain 70% chance! Kdub could have had 2 great races in a row! And the lap times he threw down!!! Damnit K DUB u were startin to catch fire!!
great racin so far, good to see bam bam take the W. WTF leather face, you must be gay or short (sighted).erin is very nice and shes hot,,just has a shitty position..I'd like to see a guy ask some of those questions...IE what happened out there after the dude just crashed his brains out,,someone would get sucker punched real quick. keep workin on this site, it still needs love guys....Thanx
Wow, Doc Boz can dose out the script!
Ok, we're gonna close the offices tomorrow and get to work on it for ya wetto107. We'll make the announcement on the breaking news thread.
script?
@old croaker, perSCRIPTion. Its a new terminology only us DR's use.
actually its an old bit of slang from back in my day.
i hear 'script' and my ol ears perk up.
scratchin at the ankle.........
grasias amigas,,errr amigos. its lookin good though..
Stewart landing on JT$ is a little more forgivable than the 20 other times that he's landed on other riders because JT$ got squirrelly in the rhythm section. That said, I can think of no other rider with such a penchant for landing on people as Stewart. He must be giving Malcom tips because that was quite the retarded move by him cutting under Larsen. Do the Lites guys think they get extra points for slamming into people or what? Contact should be made as a last resort, but Sipes and Barcia are way too preoccupied with trying to knock people down when it isn't even necessary.
Weege:
Great article, really fills in the blanks.
And for us who only saw the Houston SX race via the crappy Feld Moto Sports influenced program that got aired on CBS, well we really need the blanks filled in for the big bike class.
"Contact should be made as a last resort." Bingo Rocket
The CBS coverage was awesome! Obviously, they got the message as I saw much more uninterupted coverage throughout program and focused more on actual racing. Obviously, Weege gave them some pointers as to what us fans wanted and they delivered, good job!
Just wait, Barcia's bam bam moves are going to backfire in a big big way ! I think he is a complete punk. And I thought J Hansen was bad.
So happy for Trey Canard. RV going from 12th to 3rd was amazing on that goofy track !
I'm not saying they should BUT, imagine if the coasts (250 W/E) were combined! The 450's would be taking a back seat to that action!!! 10th would be a heroic effort! Separating "Chicken" (Hanny) & "Beast from the East" (Barcia) is like separating peanut butter from jelly, why would you do that??? I guess waiting until May is the best we can do huh?
not saying the should either, but...why not put everybody on 350s and just have one class.
top 20 dudes in the world.
qualies, heat, semis, lcq, main.
no 'lites' class. not saying they should, but............
That cherry bomb ol whisker biscuits threw on waaahh lson was a spleen splitter for real.
Maybe the CBS coverage gave the perception of being more race-heavy by starting out with a heat right away. I recorded only the racing action and it was 20:35 long. Adding about 12 minutes of (actual) ads, that still leaves about 28 minutes of video game ads, tech tips, pit parties, and other non-racing. Did anyone else think K-Dub's crash was weird? It looked like he had it saved, although still running off the track, and then went over the bars. I don't know if his front wheel hit a huge hole or he bumped the front brake or what. He probably wouldn't remember. If he was serious, I'm surprised that they would use a narcotic like morphine for anything short of bones sticking out through your skin.
That picture of 17 & 15 tells the story with Barcia trying to look all sincere and Wilson staring straight ahead. al butt hurt. Deano cant out run the schoolyard bully all year . He's gonna have to stand up and fight. Good luck with that. Someone will bang with bam bam but it will probably be a sneak attack and oh Lord they payback is going to be like a accident you just have to watch.
Dirt
hahahahahaha all pro circuit fans are mad right now hahaha maybe barcia is making justice for all hansen victims, why you dindt say nothing about that pro circuit lovers. pro circuit has the best bikes thats the point, but no the best riders. because his riders sucks in the other teams and bikes. i like the way barcia is doing.
Houston was great & I am loving it. West is strong & east is strong. Good racing period. Lites kids rubbing it up the way the strongest do it. So tired of hearing how weak some racers think the racing should be. If its clean bumping then I am all for it. Big bike riders take some notes but I guess the worlds turned nice in racing & its all love for your brothers. So maybe the racers should take up golf! Love that one comment :) But I guess the opinions of weak minded will flow like no other.. Ha ha ha. blah blah blah. Braaaap!!
banging bars may be fun to watch but remember what happened to josh grant in the 250f I think in 2006 when he lost the championship due to a block pass that backfired on him??? im sure he regrets that one!!! and the same can happen to Barcia
I don't think anybody's going to lose sleep over PC losing one 250E title. It's not like they don't have to get bigger doors for the transporter to hang #1 plates on. I wouldn't consider GEICO Honda an underdog either but, SOMEONE has to give the PC juggernaunt fits, who better than Barcia & Co.
The people on the Barcia BAM BAM wagon are retards. Yes aggression is good in some circumstances but he was doing when there was really no need he could have passed him clean. He needs to learn to pick his battles or trust me it will backfire. I am sure his team is telling him the same thing no reason to take himself out and Wilson. He was lucky he stayed on the bike on a couple of the bowl turns. Wilson held back on the interview I would have beat that goofy looking idiot right back to Narnia.
Bottom line: when stewart is coming thru the pack, stuff happens. RC did it plenty of times.
Banging bars and supercross tracks are a dangerous combo not to mention just poor sportsmanship Just ask Josh Grant whose sidelined due to a little payback from the Alessi clan. What...he thought he'd never have to answer for taking out Mike outdoors when Mike was riding hurt? Anyway you Neanderthals that like the dirty riding need to stick to hockey. True champions like RC or RD rarely have to resort to such nonsense. It takes more "manliness" to control your emotions in the heat of the battle and beat someone because your just plain faster.
Morphine is a cure all drug.
I was thinking the same thing PHX767 . Bangin and crashing in SX is way more dangerous than in the TGO.
Dirt
SXLites: I've watched the race a couple of times, I think Bam Bam rode that fine line of agression and dirty riding- AND I LOVED WATCHING IT. I guess everyone has their own opinion on what is good clean racing, but damn I like watching aggressive racing! And as to the Hockey comment and the comment about RC and RD "never having to resort" to knocking people around...Gretzky is the greatest Hockey player/scorer of all time- and he is widely known as one of the most non-fighting players as well- but that doesn't mean he didn't play physical! I think there are just people with different styles of riding...
SX Class: Personally I have always been a fan of Bubba, but I must say I enjoyed seeing him bounce off everyone and go down in turn 1- it was exciting to see how one of my favorite riders reacted. As to him landing on JT- probably could have been avoided, and yes he does seem to take people out more frequently than others- but the dude rides hard, and thats why I love watching him race- he either wins or crashes- its exciting! I would have loved to see K-DUB win, but alas Dr. Trey battled to the win! and I agree with Weege, how can you not like that Kid! I think RD is a great rider, but his championship was a product of outlasting the fastest racers in the field (due to injury). He may get better/faster, as he gets more experience, he may even get another Championship one day- And lastly, why is no one making a bigger deal about RV coming from WAY back to passing everyone on the "unpassable track" all the way to the Podium?!?! Seriously man, Props to THAT!!! Hope KC gets better soon!
We got some serious tough guys on here tonight. I can hardly see past all the raised, white Dodge's. Barcia has turned the east into demolition derby after 1 round. He will be dealt with. Deano is consistently faster when healthy. That's just how it is. Barcia's only shot is to take him out...judging by Houston that is his plan. At some point he will be dealt with.
The Flying Squirrel is in one piece, getting healthier, and only 3 points back...uh-oh.
idiots.. Thanks for the comments.. In the 250 class.. Bam bam is my man! Hey.. It's his style.. And it works for him... So far.. He has not done anything "dirty"... And he's riding good.. Expect more from him.. He's making the 250 class interesting.. More so than the 450...
IdontGetIt... Stewart rode like a dick.. And I am a JS fan... He botched up the start... And in typical Stewart fashion.. Panicked and caused the mayhem.. He then hit another panick button.. And rode through the pack... And was somewhat unfortunate that JT took a different approach.. And caused JS to crash into him... Here of course has been debate on how JS could have handled it.. Check the other threads...
All in all.. A stupid race.. For JS..Only good thing.. There is a ton of races left.. Had he done this at race 14 of the series... He could have added another title to himself.. The fastest stupid rider of the planet. All in all.. He better step up.. RV is riding really strong and in my eyes is now in the driver's seat...
Mxbob you are 100% right. If I didn't DVR the race I wouldn't watch it. There is no reason CBS can't show both the heat races...period.
The racing and elbow rubbing was great in this one i thought. Other than the bonehead move made on Wharton before that trible that took both of them out, just a plain stupid move.
James needs to make better decisions in traffic. In F1 or NASCAR you crash with this many people you won't be racing.
BAM BAM bam bam BAM BAM..............Cry babies............one winner......CBS= cant broadcast sports. leather face? good one...
This thread is almost as good as the race.
Remember when espn would schedule a race to be shown and you would get all excited..turn the tv on...and a f@#*&n spelling bee would be on!!!????those were the good ol days!!! but everyone needs to email cbs and speed with their complaints otherwise the "suits" think they are doing a "Jim Dandy " of a job...my prediction ..Sipes runs deano off track at atlanta and he plows into mitch paytons wheel chair and takes his left eye completely out!! pirate mitch! LOL
I'm glad to see there are some people on here who still appreciate "old school" SX. Thats what Barcia is. Anyone who thinks thats dirty would have never liked guys like Hannah or RJ in their prime. If Dean Wilson left the door open like that for the Hurricane, Bob would have ridden half way up Deano's leg. It's not dirty, it's a block pass. Contact is ok as long as you aren't T-boning guys off the track, hitting them in mid-air, or landing on them. Oh, and I do like the nickname, Bam Bam. It fits, it's funny, and it beats the hell out of JB17!
P.S. Carmichael parked plenty of guys in his career just ask Mr. Reed, or anybody he raced in the 125 days. As far as The Dunge he has a habit of moving over on people as soon as he gets a wheel on them. I'm not being critical of either of them,it's smart racing. It's funny how the guys who think it's dirty resort to calling people names. Have any of you ever banged bars while racing? It's fun as hell! If you don't want to get stuffed, when a guy like Barcia is behind you don't leave the door open.
WOW BD200 you did not SLAM him for sticking up for JS!!! Good for you.
Yes the track made for tight racing but I would rather have a track where the fastest guy can win from a bad start, Way to much is won and lost on the start this year it seems, This should be about the racing more than the start IMO. But again it was a hard track to pass on but once again RV found a way to get it done from WAY back. There are very few guys who can do what he does after a bad start. This year Him, JS and TC are the only ones who showed they have the heart and will to get it done.
Please, Sister Morphine, turn my nightmares into dreams - Rolling stone.
Bumping and grinding is a part of racing...I always liked close racing when I raced, but the deliberate take outs are no fun. Once in a while you will have contact, tangle bars and go down, but that usually happens in slow turns and recovery is pretty quick and no serious damage to bike or body occur, only losing the win.....the higher speed or mid air collisions like Malcolm pulled this weekend are when people get hurt....no fun...I remember a mid air collision to landing with tangled bars I had quite well.....not fun
That move by Sipes on Wharton was reminiscent of the take~out move Bradshaw laid on Matiasevich back in the day (Las Vegas SX 1992)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHE8SI9Rrfc&feature=related
The tracks were so much better then. Not all just whoops, rhythm sections, and jumps.
Why would I want to jump into that mess Bill, just to start arguements?? NO. Everybody knows he rode dumb, why bring it up again?? Even the guys who defended him till death know he screwed up, they just dont want to hear anyone say it except them. Barcia is not riding dirty, he is very aggresive, but I havent seen anything dirty from him yet. And I think Dungey rode great, he got into first for a second, but Canard held on. Dungey looked good especially since even the riders said it was hard to pass. Dungey even had average lap times higher than alot of top guys.
BD200 you ever see Unadilla from last year?? JB flat out rammed Wilson... Way worce move than the BT/Short thing. If you did not see it thats fine but take a look and let us know what you think of it.
Leave a door open = BAM BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont care.!!
Of core you don't BD200!!! You never care after someone prove you wrong!! Typical Lib... Avoid the facts and deflect!!
hahahahaha...agreed BillC..typical lib..love it...bam bam for prez,
Nobody proved me wrong asshol#. god let it go. Its a judgement call, and my opinion is BT did it on purpose. If you dont agree, fine, big deal, I dont really care. Give it a rest your like a whiney little girl.
Dumb ass I was talking about JB at Unadilla last year. NOT about BT and Short!! Crist can you READ or what?? Talk about a little girl... Who posted DON'T CARE!!!
Talking about Barcia?? How diod you prove me wrong there, when I never said either way?? Boy you make no sense. And whats with the "LIB" crap?? It that supposed to be some political dig?? Because you are wrong. Not a liberal. Just because I saw Bush as an idiot doesnt make me a liberal. why do you think a bunch of conservative Congressman backed away from him his last term?? they saw it too.You really have no clue. I even voted for a Republican at the last election. For state senate in Indiana dork..
U said JB never rides dirty, I said look at Unadilla. Get it?? As for u being a Lib... The list of proff on that is LONG.
KDub, such a cool ambassordor to this sport we love so much. Yes I hope it rains like a mofo for San Diego. Get well quick n let her rip, millions of fans behind ya.
hhmm, JS, not wanting a particular guy to win does not make a hater and neither does stating the facts. JS almost killed himself and RC when he LANDED on RC at Dilla, took out a hard working privateer when he LANDED on him in Phoenix and almost ended JT's season when he LANDED on him last week. These are just the LANDED on's and not all the other incidents ( Preston ). Am I a hater, no, but some will think so.
Challenge, list ALL the LANDED on moments from RC, MC, RV, RD, Reed, KDub etc
Very interested to see this list.
Food for thought.
Dam GREAT season so far in all 3 series, each week brings great anticipation.
The Barcia Wilson battle is going to be REAL good, awesome maybe. The Barcia move at Dilla was not a take out in my opinion, watched it many times, he just got into that rut first, faster and more aggresive, straight up !
I hope Bubbles the 2nd doesnt make a habit of stupid moves like the one he pulled this last week. Would like to see this kid make a name for himself with good riding.
Uh oh foodforthought.......you just violated the number one rule of not pointing out James Stewart's downfalls. You know better, he doesn't do stuff like that he only wins! You're really in for it now ;)