The Moment: Houston
Monday, February 14, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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Riders
- James Stewart
- Ryan Villopoto
- Kevin Windham
- Trey Canard
- Kevin Windham
- Brett Metcalfe
- Ryan Dungey
- Davi Millsaps
Races
Most races are the culmination of weeks, months, even years of hard work and preparation, but the results sometimes change in the blink of an eye. The Moment slows down those small segments of time that have such a massive impact on an entire race.
Reliant Stadium has a retractable roof, but if Kevin Windham had been able to hang on and deliver the Houston SX win on Saturday night, the fans would have permanently blown the roof right off the joint. Windham, raised in nearby Louisiana, is undoubtedly the fan favorite in Houston—and quite possibly every other SX city—and for eight laps, he began writing another fairy tale story as he sped off with the lead.
It hasn't been a great season so far for Windham, but he’s made quite a career by seizing the opportunity and grabbing wins that are each labeled “quite possibly the last of his career” when they happen. One of them took place in this very building in 2008, when Windham snagged the early lead and held it to the finish. At the time, he was a few weeks shy of his 30th birthday, and a win at age 29 seemed like one to cherish forever. Until he grabbed a bunch more that season. And two more in 2010—at the age of 32.
With younger competitors healthy and ready this year, Windham has yet to even land on the podium this year, let alone get to victory lane yet. But while those new kids on the block might have out dueled him in battles for fourth or fifth or sixth this year, only he had the experience to take advantage when a victory went up for grabs. It was just like the Steel City AMA Motocross National that Windham won back in September. Ryan Dungey crashed out, and the riders who had been battling Dungey all summer were hoping to take advantage. But there was Windham, coldly, calculatingly doing what he needed to do to snag another win when the circumstance presented itself.
In Houston, the only riders to win races so far this year—Ryan Villopoto and James Stewart—were way back early. Windham grabbed the holeshot and took off. The riders behind him, such as Trey Canard, Davi Millsaps, Brett Metcalfe and Ryan Dungey, were not making up ground on the veteran through the first half of the race. And with Windham holding a five-second lead, things looked promising, because K-Dub has always been dangerous when he’s allowed to ride pressure free.
Then came the only moment that was more surprising that Windham winning the race: he threw it away. The veteran had closed the deal on plenty of wins just like this, but this time he made a big mistake in a rhythm section and crashed out of the lead. His night was over in an instant, and Canard would grab the top spot and take career win number one.
It was a huge crash, but Windham was able to walk away under his own power. Later, in the pits, he was seen hurting, battered and bruised. This time, unfortunately, Windham and his fans were left wondering what might have been, instead of celebrating another fairy tale ending.
Not the way Windham or his fans wanted to see the night end.
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KW14!!!! dude I was so bummed when you crashed...but no one better to pick up the lead than TC41...great race, too bad my guy was landing on peeps all night...boooooo
That was a high speed brutal crash man! I'd still be layin there...He's a tuff old basterd huh?
that sucked!!!! i was there, saw it live. thought k-dub had that one in the bag! oh well maybe he will pull it off next year, it will be my 25th consecutive h-town sx. havent missed one yet!
I don't care what anyone says... In my mind, KW14 won the race. Go ahead, ask me in 10 years who won the race, and I'll say KW14.
Next time K-Dub is out front and they've passed the halfway point of the race, the flagman should wake from his drug induced stupor and throw the checkers.
Those stewart boys ride fast , but they think slow. STUPID,STUPID,STUPID.
No, Sterwart cant handle pressure, Reed has said it Villipoto has said it! Show him a wheel and he cracks + he only knows how to ride with about 5 guys, the top guys. Put him in the back and his stye doesnt work with slower riders.
K-dub had it! That wont be his last chance!
K-Dub I at home yelling at the tv in excitement when you were leading. I then saw you hit the back of some guy and I fell to the floor OMG!!!! I kept yelling "He Had it, He had it" WTF lol Best of luck to ya and hang in there DUB DUB. Were rootin for ya. :)
K-Dub gives one away... Not somthing ya don't see everyday, These chances are very far between you have got to do it. RD....RD.... Man you are toast!!! RV comes from 14th to 3rd, You go from 5 to 2nd... YOU HAD TO WIN THAT ONE!!!! If somehow RD wins this title it will be a sad day.
Dm228, that is JS's biggest problem. He is so much faster he miss judges. Pluse the guy he hit came up short on the jump witch did not help. They all take them chanses and this time it all went wrong. The guy reely need to use his head when that far back that early. he gave up a lot of points with that move.
Ryan, if you saw K-Dub hit the back of another rider, you're the only one that saw that. Hey, Bubba, I know JT$ is on the short side, but you had a clear view of that straight, you had to have seen him ahead of you. Just wanted to outdo your brother's take out of PJ?
Yeah... "weird position to be in" because only idiots ride WFO with no regard for the racer who is directly in front of them (in the same line). You tend to see a lot of that in local C class races. Obviously JS is no novice, but you get my point.
That race was a heartbreaker -- one second KW was LAPPING Stewart, then five seconds later he hit the dirt. He had Canard and Dungey covered, no questions.
BillC , raggin' on Dungey again (shocker). I know I know, you actually like him though.
FFS, this whole season thus far, JS7 has shown he is still the man in this game... You put any other " top guy " in that situation knowing he needs points, they would have done the same. It is quite easy for a bench racer to judge what Happened, My personally it was a racing mistake. JT screwed up, and stewie hit him, Sucks for JT but that is racing something shit happens. It is funny how when stewie beats everyone straight up the haters go into hybernation, Yet when a mistake happens, you all come out of the woodworks. Give the guy a break, he is simply the best on a motocycle in this era ATM... Some dip shit here said stewart always cracks under pressure, yet he has beaten RC plenty in Sx with RC showing him more than a wheel, Same goes for Reed, and Same goes for Dungey, same goes for Villo. Yes he does make more mistakes, but it is as the GOAT, and Fro has said them selves the reason why you see Stewie, Villo crash more often, is simply because they are pushing it soo much than the rest. I am a Stewart fan, and always will be, But I am not just taking sides, but you may have been there live, or watched it on TV, but we was not under neath that helmet.
May best wishes from Colombia South America, Medellin...
That was one exciting race. KW was looking all smooth and then his foot comes off the peg and face plant. I think he was in shock once he lapped Stewie.
I think we should re-do those Alessi jerseys with the target on the back, so bubbles knows where to land. Rule number one in racing....don't follow. If you are called the fastest man on a dirtbike, why would you ever follow. He listens to all the ass kisser in the media and has inflated his ego way to much. Glad when he wads himself out of racing for good, just hope he doesn't take anyone out with him.
Hope JT$ is OK. I said it on another post. JS7 is too good and too fast to triple
in directly behind a rider that poss won't do the triple. Ya gotta think what the rider
is doing in front of you...just can't full throttle ahead. And I'm no bench racer, either.
Damn, all that speed and lands on his friend.
Great job Barcia, nice b day present to Mike. It was intense racing between 17 and Wilson. This battle is long from over.
motoxjeff. You have not been paying attention. RV2 wnet from about 16 to 3rd in the very same race and DID NOT land on anyone. Reed climbed up the points ladder in the very same race being on the ground with JS7...AND DID NOT DO IT.
Then there have been the other races this season RV climbed from bad starts and did not do it.
pay attention.
I dont think I have heard anyone not root for KDUB. I remember when 511 was an intermediate at Mammoth mountain and was faster than all the pros that were there that weekend....Stewart has a repuation for some boner manuevers, but it happens...RC had a few "what were you thinking" moments as well....PHX last year was a bad call on Stewarts part and he did admit to that, but this inncident with Thomas was not his fault......Alessi was on the inside (remember, most of the tracks are one line anyway)....Thomas took the outside and simply F'd up.....he didnt clear the double and came up short causing him to almost come to a stop....If RV, Reed or Dungey were in Stewarts place, the same thing would have happened. Had Thomas not come up short, we wouldnt be having this debate and JS7 probably would have made top 4......or better. Awesome ride by RV and not sure why TC hit cruise the last half lap, that was too close man...but i am stoked TC won and RV got some points on JS....
I see this turned into a JS pissing match. Yeah and BillCunt...get a life man, did he steal your girlfriend?
Yep, What a bummer for KDUB. He looks concussed sitting in the mule, what a vicious hit he took. TC may have caught him by the end but a K-Dub 2nd place would still have been sweet. And yes, what can we say about good 'ol Bubba - the only explanation I can think of is that he just was not thinking, at all, about other riders on the track. There is no way no how he attempts that step-on if his mind processed what his eyes surely saw. I think he just was in full panic-mode of "I gotta get up to the front" and his mind just did not process the fact that there was another rider in the line he's trying to jump. It makes me think back to, oh, last year, when bubba jumped across that triple and then looked back to see who he was cutting off, only to find out he's on top of someone. This time though, the guy was at least in-sight BEFORE takeoff, AND HE STILL CLOBBERED HIM! I gotta say, I like him less and less with every bone-headed move like this. Some said it earlier, when he hits the ground and has to play catchup, he becomes a C rider in mentality. Good points Open Class, Reed and RV had crap starts too and still managed really good finishes without injuring themselves or any other innocent riders along the way.
I am not a HUGE fan of Stewart, but I think people blame him for alot of things. Sure, he has made some bad decisons, but look at some of the moves people try to put on him, simply cause he is James like Reed at PHX last year for example. That was a bad decision on Reed's part...he wanted to get his rival and took them both out. Or you ever notice when Stewart laps riders, all the sudden the lappers want to get back in the race? JS isnt perefect but shit happens..... Lets look at 2009 A1, Stewart made a " mistake " going into the whoops like and Reed ran into the back of him sinply cause he was already commited to the track, just like james was saturday.....The first turn and start stretch was a poor design anyway...the far left gate which put you on the inside of turn 1 pinched to the right so right when the gate drops you had to start getting over....if you went straight, in 6 feet you would be hitting tough blocks.....
Hey Windham I can feel your pain from the looks on your face in the Asteric cart. The pain of loosing what was meant to be, It hurts your pride more than the pain of the crash.
Also I understand that most of you are bench racers, to the ones that know what it is like to belive and maybe know you are the best person on the track and probably never had to work your way from last to first it is very dangerous in the pack of the pack. You have NO idea what move the mext person is gonna do and you only know how to go your own speed. Plus the adreniline flows pretty deep. So get off Stewarts ass he did nothing wrong and with the front brake locking up everytime he caught some air that took quite a bit of talent just to finish. I am a fan of nobody and a fan of all. Just wish I could still race!
Dear howardhepone,
I love you my child.
Peace out,
JC
Open Class I refuse to believe you are that stupid. Just because stewart had bad luck, again which is racing. does that mean he is not better than RV, or what? You need to get off of RV's dick, and realize racing is racing none the less. This shows me you are rather bios to the subject at hand. There in smart terms means no matter how many true facts, or opinions point out, only your opinion is what is the truth, because you are stuck on the other side of things... With this being said, Do you think had stewart not went down a 2nd time ( racing mistake, shit happens ) he would not have made it threw the field, if this is what you think, then my friend you are indeed the one who has not been paying attention, stewart has usually always been the one who can come from behind to the front in a matter of 16 minutes which is roughly the length of 20 laps anymore with the small track designs. My best advice to you is too stop while your not so far behind. Because your last post was beyond the most dumbest thing I have read yet on this page...
BK-R and Garjan111 you guys should be happy, There is a LOT more room on RD's sack this year for you to ta hug and kiss it. So you two are telling me RD has been good this year?? PLEASE!! I said it last year, RD is not good at passing and LOTS of people see it now, I said last year he is not as good as his resuls and so far I am right. Man that must piss you guys off!!! LMFAO. Also why do you ALWAYS say I don'ty like RD?? You know this how?? OH yeah because I am not a nut hugger?? I call it how I see it and it does not matter who the ridder is. You are the ones tell me last year that RD is the NEW MAN and and I said he wont win next year so I think you are just pissed.
Once again Stewart takes out some poor guy who is trying to make a living.
There in no excuse for it period. Although this is the first time this year Stewart
has allways rode with no regard for his "lesser cometition" after a fall. His act is wearing very thin. PS That crap never happend to any of the great ones comparing the Reed Stewart thing to this is not even close.
Motoxjeff#7,
Thank you very much for supporting me on these message boards. It gives me hope in the future that when I land on another rider, you will have my back. I know if I ever hurt myself you, and many others, will stand in line just to just to wipe my butt.
Thank you for the future freshness of my butt.
James Stewart
motoxjeff#7 pretty much what I said. It was racing and the other guy messed up. It is funny how the haters are out in full force today. LOL and the RD fans of last year are almost all gone too. YZSEAN where are ya little buddy?? I hate fair weather fans.
@Firstordirt, so let's flash back to 07 I believe Toronto first round, of the Ampd mobile supercross. Stewart passed Reed Clean, Reed came right back, Stewart passed him again in a clean manner, then on the face of a triple Reed cuts in sharp , and pins it in on stewart going off the triple forcing james off the track ( luckily ) landed, which then of course was when stewart did however make a poo decision on his part. What was odd, is everyone was so quick to bash stewart for his on track excursion, but did not say a damned thing about Reed knocking him off the track in a spot where he should have just stuck behind, and made the pass in a beyond wide open pass area in the next turn after that same triple. Again I realise there are haters, and there gunna hate, but for real if you are going to call someone out, and bash them like this, Then you simply need to open your eyes, and look at other instance between other riders, who have done the same things to him, or someone else. Shit goes both ways..
Where are the guys who said Roczen would suck or take someone out??
BILLC, if Dungey wins the title it will be a sad day?? WHAT?? Why, because you think so little of him?? If he wins then he wins, thats it, why would it be sad?? I think RV2 rode great, but Dungey had some faster guys in front of him than RV did. It a little harder to pass those guys than the ones RV passed. He ck RV had a little trouble getting around Millsaps if you can believe that. But the guys Dungey waas chasing are a little faster, right?? Dungey is not as fast as Stewie and RV most of the time, but to say it would be sad for him to win the title shows how little you think of him. Whatever, I am surprised to see what you wrote about Stewie riding like a c-class rider, you defended him to the teeth on another thread here about the same issue. And Short beats Roczen BILLC, how about that??
BD200 because the ONLY way he will win is if RV and JS get hurt so IMO it would be a sad day to see a guy who is no where near as fast as RV and JS win. and BD RV PASSED EVERYONE RD PASSED + !) OTHERS!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Also I NEVER said KR would beat Short!!! But YOU said he would not do well and he did just fine in his first ride.
PS Milsapd I think had the FASTESTY lap of the Race so why you raggin on him BD?? I still can't believe you said RD had to pass faster guys than RV!!! RV got 3rd for 15th or so RD got 2nd form 4th or 5th so Really how did you come up with that one?? LMFAO you are something.
firstordirt,,, You must have missed Emig's comment on the JS crash ??? JS prolly shouldnt have jumped it, but JT did "come up short," or doesnt that mean anything to you.. I watched it prolly 20 times on my DVR,, and its true..
To the haters that means nothing mxmofo.
I agree wuth BillC... bd200,, that doesnt make very much sense..
I know BillC.. If JS wins,, they shut up.. If somethingn happens to him,, they act like they know everything. Lets all remember that RV about ate his lunch in the main, but got a little lucky and saved it.
This was a great race!! Things didn't go right for many of the riders. It might have been a full moon or something in the water. I hope Kevin is OK. I havent heard any news about Kevin, James or Jason's condition after the race. I hope everyone is good.
Yea, Ken Roczon rode a good race. He came out on the edge but he is very fast so don't count him out. Or guys would have there hands full if he stayed to race outdoors.
mxmofo, i agree with you and BillC...some dudes love to hate...I know he has made some poor decisions during racing(pulling on the track in front of lap-down preston comes to mind) but JT$ went wide(the triple line), didn't even clear the double portion of the jump bounced into the face of the table top and somehow people expect JS7 to anticipate a pro rider to single through a section most were facing onto the table or tripling...JT$ did nothing right and got smoked from behind...bad luck but I don't see 7 trying to hurt anyone or disregarding other riders...Emig was more concerned with Sipes aggression then 7's lack of judgement or should I say lack of ability to predict the future
KW wouldn't have won that race even if he didn't crash. There was still a long ways to go. He would have done the usual fade and settle. Dungy was pushing Canard and they would have caught him in a few laps. I was thinking he might get a 3rd.
Greatest race this year. Barcia and Wilson have the battle of death. M.Stewart gets 2nd in his heat and rides crazy in the main and takes out 3 riders. The start area was designed that way on purpose and smart riders knew how to navigate it. I think KDUB was shocked when he lapped #7 and had a brain fart because he swapped sideways in an area no one else swapped in all night. JT$ has to take part of the blame for getting hit by Stewart because the outside was the fast lane. Only the top 5 guys were making the outside triple, everyone else was taking the inside double. JT was a back marker and should have known not to be in that lane. But Stewart knew someone was in that line and should have backed off. So sad for KDUB. So happy for Canard!!
Apparently clint was not at the race. KW was in control. Just watch the race and listen to Sheheen when he says KW was running a 49.6 just like Canard, consistently. KW was smooth and not losing ground to anyone. I don't see Canard or RD catching KW if he doesn't go down.
....... I THOUGHT THIS ARTICLE WAS ABOUT WINDHAM .....?
Some of you sound like a bunch of *****es.. why not just 'love the sport' not a certain rider! They ALL take huge risks every moment on the track..split second decisions can work out or not. For those who actually race.. havn't you ever thought to yourself WTF was I thinking after you hit the dirt? Other riders sometimes have influence on your decisions too. Example.. Maybe KDUB was worried JS7 would land on HIM if he didn't jump onto and off that table when he lapped him...got him nervous and broke his concentration.. HMM Shit happens.. its racing fellas! Theres no ticket issued for "failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident" in moto but there ARE consequenses!
As I posted in the race report comment section please check out below. It clearly shows an extremely risky situation caused by JS tripling in, it should have never crossed his mind to jump it. I'm posting this to clear it up, not start a fight. I believe this is plenty of proof for who is at fault, not just because of the fact he's done these things plenty of times in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF0UVeifF_g
Watch the slo-mo at the end, Alessi on the inside gives a good gauge for where JT$ would have been had he completed the section properly. JS closed in on Alessi (and JT$) fast, and had he landed the table without contact with JT$ he still had nowhere else to go except right behind him in the same line off the table because Alessi was on his right. Stewart had to know he was going to close that gap fast and should have backed off, he had nowhere to go.
Man its funny when the stewart haters come out.but as a afro american we are used to being shit on,theres always ignorance no matter what.It will always be that way.Use the negativity James and keep on making money for as long as you can.Nobody is gonna care how many races or titles you won in a few yrs anyhow,look at mcgrath,72 sx wins...so what.So get rich by riding a motorcycle for as long as you can.let the haters say what they want.
Good racing. Tough luck for K-Dub. I was happy to see him out in front for all his family and friends. There were 70 of them at the race apparently!
The points between the leaders is so close. Good job TC. Lol he almost lost it to Dungey on the last corner though. Close call.
To all, No I have not yet saw the race as I dont have TV nor Cable. Waiting on someone to bring the race vidieo over. Haven't any of you ever been just feeling like all is perfect and have no idea what happened when you crashed? That is the look I see on Windham's face in the pic. Sometimes that happens and ilt hurts.We will wait and see I'm sure we will get an inerview with him this week I hope
Completely bummed for KDUB and fans... Heal fast and come back soon!!!
To ian pederson.
You type too fast and and think to slow, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID !!!!!
Actually why aren't you out there RACING instead of typing nonsense on a blog ?? I see NOT fast enough ...
i think lapping stewart had something to do with it windham was like what the hell theres james then wammo, villopoto almost tossed it away too when he lapped james just lost focus for a second.
If people get pissed at Stewart for being dangerous (which he's proven that he is many times), they're racist. What about the people who bag on Hanny or Barcia every week? Are they prejudiced against hairy people? Give me a break!
And those two riders don't land on people, they just bump them (which MX greats such as Hannah and RJ would tell you ... is racing!).
To Retardcross,
Go and look at the footage again. JT messed up, period.
Quote:
"Stewart had to know he was going to close that gap fast and should have backed off, he had nowhere to go."
Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20..
Go back to the mainland..........I agree hindsight is 20/20, but I think the video makes it pretty clear that JS made a very bad decision coming through the pack, again....... Do I think the other top guys would have tripled on in that situation? No I don't, because the other riders keep check of what's going on around them when going through the pack. I'm not going to argue this, the video tells all. Like I said, regardless of JT$ making a mistake there was ha ridiculous amount of potential for a big crash and he jumped it anyways. This is why he is known as being reckless and dangerous because he's the only guy doing things like this season after season. This has nothing to do with hating, it just is what it is.
Groomer, good point re the the outside being the way to clear the triple . Dont know if JT was doing that triple in qualies or his heat. Although it was knda early for him to expect getting lapped , he should have seen Reed and Stewart ar someone of that caliber getting caught up in the first turn mess and would be coming through using that line. At least a 50 / 50 racing deal.
JimM
Carlsbad
The look on Kevin's face says it all.
JT was running in 9th when JS7 jumped on him (not getting lapped). Top 10 is not exactly a "back marker". There is no set line for ANY rider on the track, the rider in front usually gets to pick the line he wants to be in. If the rider moving through the pack wants to make a pass then he needs to adjust his line to do so, not just jump and hope no one is already in the line . JT and Alessi bumped in the turn before the that section and JT got knocked to the outside line. Alessi and JT were side by side when JS7 jumped, where did he think he was going to land? Part of being a great rider is anticipating what is going on around you on the track and looking ahead. No rider is entitled to win a race, every guy out there has earned the right to be in the main. There are safety precautions and blue flags to notify riders that they are being lapped but this was lap 5 and NO one was lapped or being lapped at that point.
I have raced since 1981. I am not James Stewart nor am I currently racing today's super cross tracks. One thing I did get from 30 years on a motocross bike is a sense of anticipation and smarts for everyone's safety. I think Stewart could slow down the warp drive for a millisecond and take his head out of the "tunnel vision" and be smarter on the track. He hit JT's back tire perfectly. Which is like landing on a dime. JS7 could have ended his season right there.
I never follow a rider ever because I don't trust anyone but myself. I think of a rider taking a line I may want like a downed rider. He is a moving rock they I cant go through. If he bobbles, swaps, misses a gear, or plain screws up will not effect me because I played the game of percentages and kept the changes in my favor by committing to a different line, race line or not by keeping it on two wheels and finishing the race in one piece is my goal, I can get him eventually, but not by blindly pinning it and crossing my fingers. So I would have taken a different line and or let off, because I think ahead of the situation.
Think, be calm, and be smart.
To mamat.. well said! Some should just man up and agree Stewart made a bad racing move...period thats it..and move on. He's the man to beat(according to most) and should be wiser then the JS of old. And well..he's gonna have to be to beat the kids to another Championship.. You expect that silly move to be a ROOKIE type mistake.. but the Rookie was up FRONT pulling down the WIN! Congrats TREY great ride!
Do I agree James is the fastest/sickest man on the track MOST of the time.. yeah.
Do I think he is always the SMARTEST guy on the track...well, not so much!
All you JS haters make me laugh!!!! The only rider that will have a chance to win the title besides JS will be RED ARROW!!!!
And if any of you do not agree with me, shoot me an email and we can spar a couple rounds!!!!!
Get well soon KW. Hope to see you back out and healthy soon. B
You should have heard the cheer that went up when he holeshot..........then the even bigger cheer when he lapped Stewart.........then the shriek of horror when he waded it up. Quiet a night of racing, most memorable I've ever witnessed!!!
Well said mamat and paul. Sage advice to anyone who is willing to learn. I'm a middle of the pack C class rider and even I know better. Bubbles cost himself a potential podium and surely the points lead by being reckless as usual. I hope JT is okay. Bummed for KDUB.
James Stewart rides over his head and wads someone else. Has happened before and sadly, will happen again. Calling someone a racist for pointing out the obvious (regarding this incident) only means you have lost the ability to express yourself intelligently, same as the foul mouths who name call on this site. You embarass yourselves and contribute nothing to your argument. Yeah! TC & JB! 1st Honda double win in how long???
I think it is safe to say JS thought JT would at LEAST clear the double without nosing into it from the outside.
If JT clears the double this doesnt happen.
self154 By no means I'm taking up for JS7-it was a bad move,but thats racing--you take chances. To call someone a "racist" just because they don't see it your way is wrong.Gotta agree with "Carlsbad"----some of you guys have way too much time on your hands!! Quit *****'n and go riding---instant stress relief !!
I find it funny that people in here are talking about james and malcom when the article was about k-dub (tuff break). I think k-dub deserves more repsect than people talking about someone else in his secton. and yes the Stewart boys did have some problems, everyone does. get over it, ride hard dub
@yz692 - regarding the racist thing ... that's exactly what I'm saying!
@Jamesfan1 - I think the K-Dub comments are limited because most of us feel the same way. It was great when he was leading, and a HUGE bummer when he crashed. Feel better, Kevin, and come back strong in SD!
And for the record james will win again and malcom will win a race this year.@bd200 do not let them get under your skin
BILLC, if Millsaps had the fastest lap, it was only one lap. Because as soon as RV got by him he backed off like always. And you said Roczen would ride a better race than Short, you said it a few times. Talked about how he "smoked" Short in the Des Nations. And MXMOFO, dont really gice a crap what you think. If my post didnt make sense to you, then dont read them any more. You never say anything constructive on this site, you just try to throw insults anyway. So I could care less what you think. It kills me that guys (like me) who think Stewie made a stupid move, are all of a sudden haters. I even picked Stewie to win A-1. And ripped guys for saying he was washed up and would be slow this year. Now I'm a hatyer because I said he made a really stupid move and may have ended ANOTHER guys season. Was I a hater when I said RV2 made a stupid move last year at St. Louis?? No I guess because RV is white?? Get off the hater crap guys, it makes you sound like fantards.
BILLC. you do know if K-Dub doesnt crash and wins that race, you would have caught hell on here for saying that Windham "would not" win a race this year right?? You would haver caught alot of grief.. ha ha..
So MxJesus can't wait for Steward to permanently injure himself. What a pleasant person.
BD200 you still have not explaned how RD passed FASTER guys than RV?? Insted of ripping on people expalne because it made NO sence at all. OIn to K-Dub who knows if he wins or not he has showed that he fades a bit this year soi we will never know because he thru it away and beside I never said he would not win I said he will NOT win the title like some people said he could and I said he will only win a race if everything falls his way like it did untill he thru it away. On to Roczen. again I never said he was going to beat Short I said he COULD IMO. He did smoke Short at the MXD and has been faster at the KTM track so don't puit words in my mouth unless youi can find where I said it don't make stuff up.
Yup I just looked back BD200, Like I told you I did NOT say Roczen would beat short so give it a rest. From now on don't put words in my mouth unless you have the proff to back it up because this time like all the other times you have been proving to be a lier!! You on the other hand came off sounding like he would do very poor... as you put it KR is very inxpernced!! Well he did pretty dang good anyway IMO.
I never said Dungey passed faster than RV. If I did I wrote it wrongly. I said Dungey rode a good race. He ck, the only guy he didnt pass and make it stick was Canard. So how did he do so badly. He passed all but the winner, so I think he rode well. I nevedr said that you said Roczen would beat Short. I said what you did say, that you wouldnt be surprised if Roczen would ride better than Short, and thats what I wrote. You said that he smoked him at the Des Nations, and all. And I simply pointed out that Short rode better than him and beat him. So take your LIAR comment and stick it up your big money company owneer greedy as#/ Dont call me a liar as@hole, because you dont know me. I never said he would do poor. I said he would not make top 5 at his first 450 race. And I was right. Jerk-off..
Just reread all my comments on here, were did I say Dungey rode better than RV2?? I said Dungey had faster guys in front of him. Canard and K-Dub, that he didnt pass. Canard was the winner and K-Dub ate it. I even said that RV rode a great race. That is all I wrote up there before you ran off your suck-hole. What the hell is wrong with you anyway?? You just love to argue and think your right all the time. Your just a pain in the as@. Go away.
This is What JT had to say about the Crash, which was a racing incident not entirely JS7 carelessness if JT hit the section properly (which james probably thought) then that crash would not have happened. Im not taking James side because i also think he should not have jumped the tripple-on off with slower riders around him, but in the same sense when you are already commited to a jump like that it is 95% of the time safer to jump it and hope for the best rather than slowing down and possibly cassing it or crashing. That is how i broke both of my hands; slowing down at the last second off of a huge double and cased it when i saw someone mess up the section and not do it.
“It was more a racing incident than anything. Mike Alessi bumped me and I screwed up that section, and I assume James thought I had gone already. If I had hit the section perfectly, I don’t know if anything would have changed, but it would have been close. He obviously didn’t mean to. In hindsight, it may not have been the best decision to try and pass me in that spot, but I understand him wanting to get towards the front as soon as possible. It was just a bad deal for everyone.”
Here is what you said bd200. > I think RV2 rode great, but Dungey had some faster guys in front of him than RV did. It a little harder to pass those guys than the ones RV passed.< See you said Its a little harder to pass those guys than the ones RV passed" So how am I wrong here?? also why so many insults??
Like I said you are a lire because I NEVER said KR would ride a better race than Short. My coment was > I would not be shocked to see him beat Short< So you LIED.
i'm not sticking up for any 1 rider,because i respect anyone who competes @ this level(although some make silly decisions). yes stewart should have been more patient. but if anyone out there has ridden an indoor track knows that most of the big jumps requires commitment. he probably seen jt$ ,but when he entered the corner jt was leaving the jump( then comes up short). so he cracks the throttle mid way through the entrance of the corner to make the jump. lotta things went wrong to cause this.
So were did I say Dungey rode better than RV did?? You said thats what I said LIAR. And all I said in my forst post was Short beat Roczen Bill, how about that?? So were did I say anything about your comments on short?? I didnt LIAR.
And I never said Roczen wouldnt do well, I said he wouldnt beat Short, and he didnt. Never said the kid would do badly, just said top 5 would be rough for him at his first race. thats not saying anything badly. Sounds like your putting words in my mouth. But I am done with this conversation, find something else to do with your day.
BD200 what are you on?? I never said you said RD rode better then RV, If I did show me, other wise I am not a lier.What You said was RD passed faster riders than RV thats where this all started, Others asked you the same thing because it made no sence. So the bottom line is you can't prove what you said I said because I never said it now you say your done.. because you lied and I did not.
bd 200,ignore billc..if its not RV ge doesnt care,all he can talk about it that number 2 kawi!!!!!!! which sucks.windham went down,i saw it live,i almost cried dude,i was reppin the shirt and all,had a feelin he was gonna place that night,he went down,i instantly gave up,lol.talk about heartbreak,and RD winning on a sad day?? why? because RV will be behind him? billc your ignorant and dont deserve a spot to post on here,
Groomer - how many laps where left at that point? How many times has KW been up front only to finish 7-10? He did crash... that is why he didn't win. I believe if he didn't crash he would have slowed soon. Lappers taking away his clear track would have been a issue, 5 sec wouldn't be enough.
I've been a K-Dub fan forever----even if he's racing for 10th place!! They might be guys that will be faster-but never as smooth!! I believe he would have won Sat. nite had he not crashed--maybe not. But we did see something we don't see often-----a KW mistake!!!
clint..your not even statin facts.kdubs the smoothest and if he had JS behind him,canard would have never passed JS... without passsin JS then nobody would have caught kdub..yz692..your the only other guy that knows windham and that hes the smoothest rider today,mcgrath was the alltime smoothest and now windhams takin his spot,windhams never gonna die..that guys like a fan favorite! no matter what happens he will always finish top ten! over guys half his age and way more in shape..kdub deserves props for bein an "og"...original gangster..lol.gah im from texas and i just said "og"
Foyboy - WTF are you talking about? JS was a lappeded rider. JS was running lap times 3 + sec slower than Carnard. This sport sure has changed.
@ Clint: JS fron Rotor was bent up. Look at the signs of the lap times. his fastest lap was only a tad bit slower than the fastest lap comming through the pack. I think he would have made it to at least second had he not crashed on the 6th lap.