Open Mic: Interviews from Daytona
Monday, March 11, 2013 | 2:00 PMWil Hahn, GEICO Honda, 2nd in 250SX
How was it?
Tonight was good. I think I closed a little bit on the practice times. It was close enough. I got a heat win, happy about that. Got a good gate pick for the main. In the main I didn’t get the greatest start; I didn’t get a bad one either. I just tucked on the inside, everyone pushed out. I was just patient tonight. Maybe a little too patient because by the time I got into second Marvin [Musquin] was gone. So hats off to Marvin, he rode awesome. I’m just happy to leave here with a little bit bigger of a lead and keep that red plate on my Honda.
Do you really think about points or is it one of those things where you take it one race at a time?
My main concern was just pressuring him tonight more than anything. I go out there and just ride my race and then at the end of it I’ll worry about that. I’m not in the middle of the race going 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… I just try to stay calm and let the cards fall like they’ve fallen, because I think once you start over-analyzing stuff bad stuff happens. So I just try to ride like I do at home and bring that to the table.
Wilson’s obviously pretty good outdoors. He’s won a title before. Were you worried about this race any more than any other?
No, and I knew going in that my fitness was going to be a big thing tonight, whether my speed was a little off or not. By lap 15 I knew my fitness would be there. To me, I just relied on that tonight. – Jason Weigandt
"My main concern was just pressuring him [Dean Wilson] tonight more than anything." - Wil Hahn
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Ken Roczen, Red Bull KTM, 7th in 450SX
Is that your only race in this class?
Yeah, only one.
But it was good, right?
It was all right. On one side I can’t complain, on the other side I’m definitely not happy. I struggled with the suspension all day and I’ve been getting arm pump and stuff. But also I haven’t tested with this thing or anything. So I don’t know. The heat race, my start was pretty good, riding was pretty good, but after the second lap I [was] riding super tight and just can’t make the turns and stuff. Went to the main and just good start again and first couple laps all right, and as soon as I get arm pump I ride this thing like a tractor around the corners.
I saw you take your hand off over some jumps. Is that what you were doing?
Yeah, my hands. I could have pushed more and do something stupid but then my arms would have ripped off. I really didn’t know. There’s a little bit of work what we have to do. We have been testing outdoors last week, with the 250 though, and gotten a little better. But I’m putting in all the work I can. I know the team is, too, but we’re just not at the point yet where I can go out there and say "Hey, everything is working very good." I don’t want to just sound bad, but…
You know if you didn’t get pumped up you probably would have done better.
Yeah, that’s what bummed me out. You could see in the first couple laps it’s all right. – Jason Weigandt

"We’re just not at the point yet where I can go out there and say "Hey, everything is working very good." - Ken Roczen
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Justin Barcia, Muscle Milk Honda, 3rd in 450SX
How was the race?
[Sighs] That’s how it was.
Is it really that gnarly?
It was really gnarly. Those guys were bad dudes, Ryan and Ryan. But it feels good to be up there with those two guys that [have] won a lot of championships. I feel pretty good racing with those guys and being on the podium. I beat a lot of good guys tonight, but got beat by two really good guys so it doesn’t feel terribly bad. Track was brutal, rough, gnarly. More like a motocross track with big jumps.
Which makes it worse, I would assume.
Makes it way worse because you have to think the whole time about these jumps you’ve got to do and watch your kickers and ruts and bumps and sand… I could go on and on.
You had Stanton down there busting you pretty bad for the last couple days?
Yeah, he’s been down there. We’ve been getting it done, to say the least. He’s won Daytona quite a few times so he kind of has some good stuff to say. It’s a bummer I didn’t win, but good to be on the podium. It’s a lot better than fourth or fifth. Feels pretty good to be back. – Jason Weigandt

"It was really gnarly. Those guys were bad dudes, Ryan and Ryan." - Justin Barcia
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Eli Tomac, GEICO Honda, 4th in 450SX
Nice main event for you. You were coming on strong until you dumped it near the end. Barcia might have had himself a challenger for the podium.
It was close there. I just did a little mistake. I was getting a little excited. I was like, 'Oh my gosh! Third’s right there. I could smell the blood.' I was actually good until about lap 18, that’s when I kind of felt it and that’s when those little mistakes pop out, those little things like that. Before that I even cased the rhythm in the back and he got away a little bit. It would have been really close, I guess if I wouldn’t have made that little mistake. Even on the start I got sandwiched. I’m going to have to watch on TV if I was the guy that led off or what because I got sandwiched by Dungey and Trey. But I was actually able to sneak around the inside good. And then going into the second corner Bam Bam was getting all crazy like off the inside of the track. I was like, I don’t know what’s going to happen now. But I guess I must have been around 10th or somewhere in there.
I think I had you about 11th. Regardless of not getting Bam Bam, great race. You’ve got to be happy.
Yeah. Fourth sucks because you’re not on the podium. But it's like my first legit 450 race, felt like I normally do.
Let’s face it, the first two races of your four-race thing hasn’t gone the way you wanted it to.
Even Atlanta I was just tight. Last week I was okay in the morning and then grenade with energy later. I was sick in the middle of the week. I could kind of use that excuse but I was just tired and just wasn’t all there. This week I was finally just solid.
How was the track? It looked gnarly.
It was. They groomed up a couple spots but it was gnarly in spots for sure.
One more race, right, on the 450?
Indianapolis and then yeah, get ready for the 250 then. If this week didn’t go well I was thinking of not even racing next weekend because I was seriously getting that pissed at not being comfortable on the 450 and getting like a 10th.
There was a battle there with Roczen.
My goals today were like, I want the podium and I have to beat Roczen! I do not want that guy to beat me.
I tweeted that I was a big momentum shift for the 250 series in three weeks or four weeks. How’s the bike been for you?
Truthfully it hasn’t been awesome. Fighting setup like crazy. I just do not feel comfortable on the thing.
Back to the spring forks?
Back to the spring forks. I absolutely dislike the air forks right now. I think you just need a lot, a lot of time on them to figure stuff out and I just haven’t had the time. Once I went back to my spring fork it was pretty surprising on where they worked better. – Steve Matthes

"My goals today were like, I want the podium and I have to beat Roczen! I do not want that guy to beat me." - Eli Tomac
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Lots of dudes not digging the air forks......
Seems like the factory Honda guys Barcia and Canard have had less issues with the air forks than Reed and now Tomac. Looking at the off-season, perhaps Barcia and Canard put in more hours testing on them than Reed did. And Tomac's comment is basically that they take time to set up. RV's experience would also seem to back this up.
Honestly with all the excuses flying around I'd like to see someone that's still getting decent results say something negative about them, with the field is stacked as it is you aren't just gonna come in and win every race unless your name is RV lol and the air forks are the easiest to blame with reed I honestly havent seen anything different out of him as far as results go he was doing just as good on the air forks
@jeramey
I agree. Chad is getting the same results with spring forks as he is air forks.
But with that said. A lot of positive things have been said about the air forks but a lot of negative things have been also. I think it's just going to take some true testing (racing) to get them figured out. I think they will really shine outdoors.
Funny how just befor Tomac made his debut at Atlanta his sponsrs posted a video in which he proclaimed "I am super comfortable" on my 45o and it is actually "easier to ride than my 250" etc
Racing the best guys is a not a practice track is it?
Good learning curve for him though...Like I posted before his results were actually doing harm to his future prospects and that he should step off - good to see that someone in his camp was thinking the same way i.e. to quote E.T. "Indianapolis and then yeah, get ready for the 250 then. If this week didn’t go well I was thinking of not even racing next weekend because I was seriously getting that pissed at not being comfortable on the 450 and getting like a 10th."
This fourth place (while closing in on Barcia does help to mitigate that damage) but he was still a ways back - Don't get me wrong nut-jockey's, he will do just fine in the future but if you think RV is going anywhere anytime soon Daytona is a slap to the face of that Theory.
Reed was hauling the mail...lap times will show he probably still would have finished third or fourth though...hate to say it but kind of a boring race - unless you are an RV fan or the type that likes to see Stewart do badly - which this forum is chock full of...
Man JGR...don't know what to say about that team...maybe pack it in and stick with 8 cylinders? Or focus on one guy? JB is a good dood but he has reached his zenith...simple as that. Josh Grant? they should have known what they were buying into...
Canrd oh man were you lucky there...
Crap...don't know what happened to the spacing.
Wouldn't thought I'd ever say this a few years ago, but I like Barcia's attitude. You know he wants to win every time out, but with the guy's he's racing against, he's being realistic. At this point, finishing 3rd on a tough track, behind the guys who have won the last six 450 championships, is a whole lot better than crashing out trying to hang with them.
Het therealmofo read this "It was really gnarly. Those guys were bad dudes, Ryan and Ryan."
.I think Barcia just bagged on himself!!!
Just watch their results for the rest of the season before making up your own mind weather it was the forks or the rider
Was that a bit of mind games there, with ET's comment about, "that guy". LOL
Looks like he's trying to rev Kenny up and make him put it all on the line in the next couple of 250 races, even though he doesn't need to.
I have a feeling Rodger will have a word with the kid, they'll have a laugh, and ET will end up handing his crown over to the new kid on the block anyhow.
How about that 350 out holeshotting the 450 KTM's and a lot of other 450's too!!
@MX Bob - I think Barcia has matured since he has been working consistently with Jeff Stanton. Recognizing your limits and racing within yourself is hard to do when you are as competitive as these guys were.
@BillC - not sure that acknowledging that you got beat is bagging on yourself. I see it as an admission that Barcia has more work to do and he knows it.
Air forks came and went in the last 70s for a reason. I wouldn't be surprised if they're gone again in a few years.
@BILLC--UH OK.. Barcia said the same exact thing after the race.. So, he gave those guys their props, whats so big about that?? Dont know what point you are trying to make, but the guy rode well.. He beat some great riders.. Just because you dont like the kid, so what.. He gave those guys their props.. Most guys say thats a good thing..
giving props to the Ryan's is simply saying it like it is, heck KR would have said I got arm pump or a bug in my eye or was sick . . .
Is it just me, or does Kenny always come off as a whiner? Kid is always making excuses and complaining, the cry baby attitude is getting old.
I love the way Stewie tried to blame it on his tire choice. He looked like he was gonna puke after his heat race. I see RV being "lucky" more and more.
No way Stewart will race the whole outdoors, if he shows up at all. That would require work.
On another thought;
Does anyone else think that TC would be a good over at RCH? I think RC would be a good mentor/coach for him. RC had to fight with height issue like I think TC is facing. I think their riding styles are similar and TC would benefit from RC. I don't he will be on RED next year and I think he needs a change. Am I off base here?
interesting stats, In all the races that JS and RV have racer together,
JS has finished ahead of RV 24 times
RV has finished ahead of JS 29 times
This includes RV's 2009 rookie year in the last 3 years the score is RV-25, JS -14
@CR500AF - Absolutely agree about Stanton's influence on Barcia. I'm glad, that he's smart enough to realize a multi-time champion knows what he's talking about. I don't mean that as a joke. Look at Hanson. His a father who is a multi-time champion, but apparently he didn't listen to him much after going pro.
Interesting stats davidl......seems that RV isn't as lucky as some like to think ;)
CR500AF 100% true. But I said that in another thread and therealmofo said i was bagging on barcia. I was not He rode GREAT but did not have the fitness to run with RV or RD.
@BillC-- You did NOT say that in another thread.. You bagged on him and said he wasnt in shape.. You NEVER said he rode great or nothing.. Your comment was "RV and RD "schooled" Barcia on fitness"...So how did you say anything close to what CR500AF said???? You dont like the kid and you bag on him.. Even though he beat Tomac (who everyone says is in great shape) and Reed, (who charged all the ay to the end) Tell me where you said anything good about him in your ORIGINAL post in the "MONDAY CONVERSATION" thread???