The Moment: Oakland
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PrintBy Aaron Hansel and Jason Weigandt
Identifying the pivotal moment that changed the structure of the race at Oakland this week is easy. Watching it live and trying to figure out exactly what happened, not so much.
We are of course, referring to the moment when Chad Reed, a rider who we’re used to seeing maintain precise control at almost all times, lost control in the whoops and bounced off a few bikes before getting into Josh Grant and torpedoing into the pack as they were rounding turn two. The end result was a big pileup that involved names like Bobby Kiniry, Kyle Chisholm, James Stewart, Trey Canard and more. What’s more, Ryan Dungey got shoved due to the carnage, too, and then bumped Justin Barcia, who was plowed into a berm, ending his race
The reaction in the press box was one of shock and disbelief, and it took several moments for many to remember that there was still a race going on elsewhere on the track. Had that many guys really just gotten blasted only two turns into the race? Shouts immediately rang out from several members of the media; “Reed and Stewart are down!” “Barcia’s on the ground!” “Reed was out of control!” “Look at Stewart, he’s limping!” Fingers flew as Tweets were frantically hurled into cyberspace attempting to explain to fans across the country what had just happened.
A massive second turn pileup claimed a number of the top contenders in Oakland.
Simon Cudby photo
What had just happened? The crash played out in an instant, and further adding to the mystery is the fact that the TV camera that was mounted in turn one got knocked over, erasing a camera angle that potentially held some key evidence as to how this whole mess came about. In our race report, we incorrectly placed a good portion of the blame on Josh Grant, but from what we’ve surmised since, Grant is innocent (JGR says its team video shots show Grant way outside in turn one, and not making any contact with Reed until the final moment of impact in turn two). In the Racer X Podcast, Jason Thomas said that many of the guys themselves didn’t even know who had caused the smashup.
“All of those guys that were lying on the ground were blaming each other,” Thomas explains. Mistaking Grant for Stewart, Reed initially thought Stewart had ran him high in the corner and into traffic. Stewart was left wondering why Reed had gone straight up the berm instead of turning right. If you’re Grant, you’re upset that your top-five start was ripped from your grasp. If you’re Barcia, you were just left in pain.
Of course, reports go in all directions. The TV footage puts the blame squarely on Reed, as he hopped from one line to another in the whoops and then went on a wild ride. But without a true shot of the first turn and the inevitable contact that always happens there, it’s hard to tell what made Reed hop out of line. Team videos indicate some bumping and banging in the first turn, but riders will, of course, point fingers in all directions.
James Stewart, along with Justin Barcia, got the worst end of the deal, as neither was able to finish the race.
Simon Cudby photo
But then the evidence arrived today courtesy of the GoPro camera mounted on James Stewart's helmet. Have a look--hard to blame anyone but Reed for this one.
In addition to drastically changing the outcome of the race, this particular moment also leaves a visible impact on the championship picture. After the race, Stewart himself told Racer X’s Steve Matthes that he believes that after his DNF in Oakland, the title may now be out of his reach. Reed, who finished in twelfth, also feels the sting in points. After going 4-4-3 at the first three rounds, Reed now sits in fifth place, twenty points back of points leader Davi Millsaps. Barcia, with two-straight DNFs, is all but eliminated from title contention.
On the flip side, while title contenders where picking themselves up off the ground, others were enjoying career-best rides. Matt Goerke, Vince Friese and Jimmy Albertson all logged their best-ever finishes. In all, it was a crazy few seconds that will have a dramatic impact on the entire year.
For a video breakdown of the crash, check out this article at PulpMX.com.
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Chad Reed piece of sh**!
Can't hang with the big boys so he cleans them all out!
Go back to smelling kangaroo as* in australia!
Why haven't we heard a word from Chad Reed????? He's the centre piece of the crash and probably the only one who knows for sure how HE got so out of control.
I don't believe he intentionally went high to hit Stewie. He was right out of control at that point and I don't think he could stop the bike even if he wanted to.
Did you even watch it yogi? He got right out of shape and grant had no where to go, hitting him and, sending them both into JS7.
That not a nice thing to say !!
You tell your old lady I'll breed her with the whalabees !! LOSER POSER
Chad said on shark bites it was a racing deal and James didnt do anything so go to Dirt shark you oca pussies
Racing accident, everyone Sack Up and Carry On
@yogi, you're an idiot, grow up.
typical chad reed always someone elses fault it doesnt take a genius to see who was totally out of control reed!!!! as i said before reed will not win again and needs to go back home if he wants to win races and give shorty the honda
Rehashing this crash over and over is getting boring. Now if it was Stewart that caused it, that would be much more fun.
Hey @jeramey,, I and many others ,,,, told you so!!!
" In our race report, we incorrectly placed a good portion of the blame on Josh Grant, but from what we’ve surmised since, Grant is innocent"
Cant blame anyone for guessing it was Grant, 99/100 they would be right.
Racing incident. SX track design. 20 riders looking for the same real estate in a wash basin. What do you expect???
I am just amazed it doesn't happen a lot more often than it does. Kudos to all the riders who (try) and exist out there under those conditions.
Maybe that would have been an appropriate time for a restart.
Stewart now says he believes the title is now out of his reach!!LOL!!!!!!! It was NEVER within his reach, please... sorry , I know what he did earlier in his career, but he hasnt won a title since 2009.. And the last two season have been pretty telling, the best one he has had recently was in 2010--He finished 4th place... I know in the past he was a threat for a win, but not a title in a few years.. Sorry,, I will get hell from some Stewie fans for this, but do any of them REALLY truely belive he was a threat for a title until Oakland?? C'mon now...And NO BILLC, this is not a jab, just the truth and you have to know this also..
@canoe589 - good point!
It is what it is....racing is racing and sh*t happens....Reed got a little squirelly and what I notice is when he drifts back to the right, he catches his right leg and I think his recently repaired knee goes out on him - thus letting the bike take control over his direction and then WHAM....Stewart, Reed and all the guys involved obviously would rather this not happen but it did.....People ask what happened and saying " Reed crashed into me" isnt blaming Reed ...its just telling it like it is.....Crashing sucks period and none of these dudes planned on this happening...so you get up ...dust yourself off...hope your body and bike are in one piece and continue on.....Reed had an MRI on the knee....so more to come on that perhaps.....but he has been quiet except for talking to his boy JT...How he thought James ran him high is crazy....just like he thought Weimer was RV last year.....wierd?
Check out the go-pro footage. It doesn't explain it fully, not that I think that's important, but does show Reed swapping through the whoops. It look like he might have first bumped Millsaps, who was going through them fast and straight, then went off to the right.
once he was out of control reed subconsciously saw yellow and gravitated towards it since he knew he was going down anyway
Believe this.If Chad Reed wasn't where he was and Josh Turd Grant was where he was there still would of been a crash caused by Turd Grant.He had been trying to take out Stewart from the right side for the past two weeks.This would of been Turds chance for a perfect Tbone on JS7.I don't care what you say Reed was diving down to the inside he was not out of control.His handle bars were ahead of Turds.He had control of the turn but ol Turd kept the throttle pinned.That crash was Turd Grants fault.You need ti interview Reed and see what he says.Everyone on here has been watching Turd Grant trying to take out people for the past few weeks.He is not quite as bad as Hansen but he is pretty damn close.If Reed hadn't of been there there still would of been a big crash there caused by Grant.
Reed was not out of control.That was a perfect move on his part.He might of looked a little squirrely because he cut down across the last 4or5 whoops at a angle an made it look that way but believe me he was in total control.You had it right the first time RacerX.
I'm a Reed fan and Reed caused the crash. There.
One thing we could take into account for the future may be to groom the whoops before the race when they are one turn from the start. They had one line through them that created chaos--yes really Reed did, I know that--anyway, if the whoops were evenly groomed then we would have had an opportunity to separate the riders with less chance of carnage--much less.
Every Pro has, at one time or more, relenquished control of their motorcycle to the mighty whoop section. It's just that some instances are better examples of pure carnage than others. Everyone who hit the ground did so with authority! I don't know about you reading this and your tolerances of pain but the collision of trucked-in-soil and rider looked painful to me.
Blame Reed? Blah blah blah, might just as well as blame racing in general.
Gooming Pro tracks is a really funny idea. Thanks for the laugh, brother.
How the f**k can anyone blame Reed for taking out Stewart when Stewart was behind him!!?? seriously who the f**k thinks this was malicious needs to get their head examined...its a race....with the best in the world, do you really think going into this race (with major sponsors mind you) that Chad Reeds whole intent was to take out Stewart and whoever else!!? sorry people, Chad Reed doesn't ride in your local novice class, he doesn't have the intentions that you may have towards others.
Jeramey!!!!!!! HELLO!!! where you at???
Look at the go pro footage.If Grant hadn't of been there Reeds move would of been golden.Stewart might of been toast though.Look a the go pro footage.
localexpert Pretty sure that was Reeds bike "T" boning JS. Yup... JS did not fall on his own this time.
The broadcast had two replays that helped if watched in slo-mo. First was a shot over top of the berm looking backdown the whoops. I watched riders heads to see where they were looking. Most started to look for ways around the pileup. Grant was looking up at Stewart even when he should have been looking right or even down. No big deal I thought, until I watched the replay that was shot on the exit of the turn back across to the end of the whoops. Look at Grant's right foot. Seems to hit the brakes way late. I don't know what all this means other than Chad really did start everything in motion. Is there some truth to the "bounty" put out by JGR on James? I hope not those are Hansen type antics.
@singletrackizwhereitsat
Have you ever been to a Supercross? They prep the track a multitude of times throughout the night.
The crash was Reed's fault. His bike hooked oddly at the start of the whoops and it started a chain reaction for him. The only person he actually crashed out was Grant. Stewart tried to go around the outside and there wasn't room. It sucks but I don't think anyone thinks it was deliberate. And if Stewart wants to be mad, let him. He is the last person on Earth that has any right to point any fingers at people for losing control in the whoops (or anywhere else for that matter).
Who care who's fault it was.....Thats racing and to be honest it made this season even that much more great. Why fault Reed? I remember Reed getting parked a few times by Stewart in his career as well as Strewarts old teamate Chisholm. Its racing!
Actually I lied. Stewart couldn't have avoided the crash. :)
Funny how NOT OUT OF CONTROL Reed was until he and Millsaps came together and hit. Notice where they both enter the whoop section at 12 seconds. Millsaps on the inside, Reed on the outside. They both drag race while drifting to the middle. See how Reeds bars flick to the right dramatically at 15 seconds? That was Millsaps back tire clipping Reeds front wheel. You know it happened because Millsaps begins drifting back toward the left (as Reed also gets sent in the opposite direction).
It's neither fault. Reed was in front innitially, but Millsaps was going faster and was on his way to beat him at the exit. Two guys just fighting for position and they came together - Reed got the worse end of it. Could have easily been Millsaps getting punted left and wadding it up. Then we would be talking about how Reed cleaned out Millsaps.
@Micahdogg,, I think Barcia got the worse end of it.
THE RACE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RED FLAGGED.
was this one of those "beginner" move situations Reed talked about during the SX preview show??
bottom line this was an accident.....Grant would have checked up if he was able too and Reed would have missed Stewart had he not been locked up with Grant..Stew would have squared underneath Reed and the rest would be history......there would have been some bumping an grinding regardless...but its over and done with.
Stewart like any rider would be, was just frustrated..he had a decent position exiting the whoops and had no control over what happened..He probably didnt see Grant hitching a ride on Reed which lead to stewart getting clobbered.......He is mad at the situation more so than Reed and im sure he knows it wasnt intentional, especially after the video......Reed was pissed off and he thought it was James who ran into him....emotions get elevated under these circumstances....then you had folks blaming stewart...or blaming reed...or Grant.....its all Obamas fault.,,,,DUH!!!
If reed doesn't low side it and go down, he T-bones Stewart. Obviously Reeds mistake caused it but that's racing. Don't like it? Get a better start or better positioning. To any numbskulls that think it should have been restarted? Your idiots that spend too many hours riding a couch. Anyone who has raced has been dealt that card at one time or another. Let's see what happens next week!
"what crash ?"....signed RV
@therealmofo if you cant admit that Stewart looks better on a Suzuki, then i cant help you. He can qualify fastest with a torn acl. Hes comfortable. He had a great chance towards the title. If he gets the start he can run with RV with a torn acl. That says anough. He hasnt crashed on this bike like he wouldve already on his Yamaha and hes just as fast as he was if not faster. You put anyone on a bike they arent comfortable, and you wont get results, ex: Dungey. This Crash was all Reeds by the way hahaha.
chad reeds needs to learn to drive a bike or stop racing, im really tired of him taking out stewar and everybody else. maby hanson and him can be on a team.
Just spoke with Canard and he said Jesus caused the crash. It was all in God's plan to cause a forced group hug. PRAISE JEBUS
@ tonewall, NICE, I am with you again!
I am a Reed fan as well, and can say he was way out of control threw the whoop. He did make it to the corner, where I thinkg 33 Grant T boned him causing him to hit Stewy. Where is the Grant Go pro footage? They dont want to release it because it shows whos really at fault, just my opinion.
Reeds honda got squirlly like a Hodaka on nitro, end of story , shi* happens. Now go be a i dot.
TONEWALL !!!! LOL !!! great post !! "what crash?" signed RV, best post yet
Everybody just needs to settle down, yes CR got out of sorts and started this mess but this is RARE for him and it was just bad luck for a lot of guys.
The race was not restarted and I don't think it should have been. I, like most, wish this hadn't happened but it did and I am over it and hope the guys are healing and getting ready for A3 !!!
@bowling-donuts
Really? Chad needs to learn how to "drive" a bike? You're a moron. Everybody has had whoops bite them once in their career. It just happened at the worst possible time for Reed and everyone involved. Could you image the carnage is Stewarts whoop mess up in Dallas 2011 had been on lap 1? Same thing would have happened.
By the way, why does it look like Grant didn't even attempt to turn or slow down? Where is his footage??
Here's my take on it. Reed exited the first turn, and for whatever reason he kept turning left at the exit - maybe a little wheelspin, maybe avoiding a rider on the outside of him, which is more likely. Once you enter whoops like that, you have to go in a straight line through them, but for him, due to the exit he made, it was a diagonal line, which intersected #18. Reed was forced to avoid him, which sent him to the right, and we all know how hard it is to change direction accurately when you're blasting whoops, especially on the first lap coming out of the first turn with half the pack on your ass, WFO. Your choices are limited. Reed inadvertently cut Grant off, and we all know you can't just shut off in the whoops. Grant's front end was being taken out to the right, which made him lean the bike to the left as his front end was taken to the right. Grant had to keep the gas on to try to recover, or risk cutting everybody off and getting t-boned. As Reed entered the turn hot, Grant was turning left into Reed trying to get his own bike back underneath him to avoid going down. They blew the turn and stuffed the riders who were on the outside.
Unavoidable racing accident, that's racing, bottom line. Get some counseling if you can't handle it.
To me, it looks like Millsaps and Reed attempted to occupy same line in the whoops. Reed's line was going to be cut off. Reed reacted, and after that was just damage control. Only thing I cant see, is if Millsaps moved also, into Dungey, taking Barcia out.
Why anyone would want to point the finger one person having malicious intent is beyond common sense.
@mxjosh....you are correct. Bunch of geekbag nerds on here. When did our sport start attracting such tards???? The posts on here are mostly absurd. I guess the bigger our sport gets, the more people who understand nothing about the sport it will attract.
I get a kick out of the people who argue 4 stroke versus 2 stroke. Like it is a topic worthy of debate even. If you don't know which is "better" you are clueless.
Why is everyone is so butt-hurt over this crash??? That's racing for ya! If you forgot what it is.....
Take a chill pill!
I understand its media's job to make a sensation out of nothing !
I would get squirly and take all of you out! LOL
Oh, by the way nitwits...the crash was caused by the guy that decided to put a whoop section after the first turn...LOL
!Toothperry--who cares where he qualifies, its race results I look at.. Not what you can do for one lap, its what you can do for 20 laps.. I have yet to see any lap times from the actual race where Stewart was turning laps as fast as RV. especially the "Average lap time" for all 20 laps.. The race is what counts, you mention qualifying because thats all you've got, even last year..
And yes the crash was started by Reed, so what??
am i the only one who sees grant giving a pit-maneuver to reed's rear wheel at turn apex? tv and gopro both show it, reed might have been out of control in whoops and going in too hot to corner, but looked like grant drove straight at reed's rear from tv footage and didnt seem to be attempting to turn at all until his front tire ate reed's rear, and on gopro you can see that is what finally knocks reed down....whats done is done, but just saying
@ griffter and mxjosh, I'm with you guys. Millsaps flew by Reed real close Reed freaked tried to move over and take (the wide open inside line) and lost it. How many times have all you new Reed haters seen Chad take someone out.... yea thats what I thought. Anybody else see it that way or is it just me?
What planet are we on?
1) The race should have been restarted
2) It was the whoops fault
3) There should never be jumps or whoops within the first 8 turns
4) Stewart is a title contender
Four of the most unintelligent comments I've ever heard
Millsaps and Reed came together, Millsaps just got lucky on that one.
And whats with all the restart crap, they had a clear lane to get by any that were injured. This is SUPERCROSS not nascrap!
@BILLC
"localexpert Pretty sure that was Reeds bike "T" boning JS. Yup... JS did not fall on his own this time."
No kidding, the point that I'm making is that he DIDN"T do it on purpose, unless you believe he has eyes in the back of his helmet...timed his mishap perfectly, and then when the timing was just right he "T" boned Stewart. WOW, I think thats it
Clearly 4-strokes are to blame. On a 2-stroke Reed could have just seat-bounced over the corner (and Grant's head) and taken the lead.
I do like the people saying "If Grant wasn't there...." which correlates how to reality, since he was indeed "there"? Reed would have made an awesome move if he had just used his eyeballs and realized he wasn't alone on the track. I blame racing.
Oh c'mon! I just watched this footage. Reed looked to be trying to come across the front of James towards Milsaps. Milsaps did not move from his line which is why he blitzed by Reed. He purposely jumped into the whoops from the right towards the middle and it bit him badly. I'm still not blaming anyone, but that was an ill-advised move and avoidable on Reed's part. He was trying to win the race on the first lap.
redrider24--That was one of the best post on here..
I could say Reed was obviously cutting off Stewart's line through the whoops (I'm surprised BK-R was the first to point that out) and once again his dickhead moves caused a crash. But that would just be starting sh*t. 22 got squirrelly and caused a racing incident, sucks for some, but BFD.
it looks to me like reed drifter left and was surprised by millsap came back, lost right foot came back right , saved it and was slammed into from behind by grant which in turn started the melee . had grant let off i believe this mess could had been avoided ! grant in the library with the candlestick was the murderer !
Wow, I called Racerx out for biased reporting and my post gets deleated! Awesome!
Reed took a dumb chance and he took out a bunch of people, that's not good racing. If you know you have to pull that crap you should expect to pay the price and he did.
Unfortunately he could have hurt those other guys its hard to have any respect for that reed should take his selfish arse back to Australia and leave the us to the fast guys.
@srp140 word. Watch grant continue to ride like a dick like he has every race thus far.
fred---was you awake while this was going on? I guess you are a HUGE Reed fan and that's OK--he's one of the most"mistake free" riders ever. But when one rider gets out of control when they are bar to bar with other riders this is what happens!! But I'm sure you know this being the pro rider that you are ! I can only guess what your comments would have been if JS7 started this chain reaction!!
I get so pissed off reading half the comments here, people taking cheapshots at the best racers in the world like they're nobodys, its shit.
as for the crash on the weekend, Chad was wide-open still leaned in as he hit the whoops, he hooked up real good and got on top of them, that drive hooked him left, he saw he was gonna hit millsaps andtried to avoid saps, tucked the front wheel low into a whoop, took the foot off for balance, and would have just fallen over if not for grant, who stood him up straight, he kept it wound ( as any real racer knows to) and coulndnt do anything, him and Grant locked bars and went straight ahead.
Theres no way Chad wanted to go down in the 2nd corner , or start a fued this early in the season, the crash ruined alot of riders title hopes including his own, its a racing incident and needs to be treated as such, for me its obvious that they all mean buisness, you heard villopoto, sayin its crazy in 8th place with dudes goin everywhere and those first few corners are vital, starts count when the field is this stacked, Roll on A3, alot of guys yet to reach thier potential speed!
@redrider24-
We are on the planet where Casey Anthony walks, OJ Simpson finally goes to jail for threatening people trying to get sports memorabilia back (and not double murder) and even high-def video evidence isn't enough to allow some people to have an unbiased view of an incident.
@ride2-
Don't be surprised because I try to be unbiased. I like Reed, haven't cared much for Stewart in the past, and can't stand Grant. Still I am able to say Reed was purposely crossing Stewart's line, Grant had absolutely no options when Reed came back into him, and yet it is still a racing incident that is bound to happen when there is a whoop section with 20 guys within a second of each other going through them at top Pro speeds. Since everyone likes Dungey, you see no one blaming him at all for moving over into Barcia, but that was also a racing incident. Dungey should NOT be blamed, but if Grant was where Dungey was and Dungey was where Grant was......oh boy would Reed and Grant BOTH be getting it on the 'boards. Even I can see how some cut Bubba zero slack even when it comes to racing with a torn ACL. That is just wrong. I've already given James a ton of praise this year.
localexpert I said in a few other post's that it was just a mistake, I guess I missed where you are going with what you said. Sorry.
If all of you YAHOOS would take two minutes to analyze the GoPro. Clearly at the :17 mark you can see Grant going straight into Reeds back tire causing the entire pileup. Grant is a turd that needs flushing. He never even tried to make the corner. Reed was turned and although taking Stewart high should have made the turn safely until good ole Grant spoils the show for everyone. There IS NO OTHER SCENARIO look at the footage. GRANTS GOONAGE tells all.
The problem is the idiot track designer and the AMA/FIM for approving it. They say the whoops separate the men from the boys, so why the Hell would you make the first section out of the first turn a long whoop section.......followed by another long whoop section. Idiotic. Just asking for trouble.
i do believe reed was moving over on stewart but after he was startled by millsap , he lost balance and drifted back to the right and he went into save it mode . at no time did he try to take stewart high cause by that point grant was digging for turds up reeds ass. grant should have seen it all transpire in front of him and he should of backed off. get rid of grant !!! in all 4 races so far he has takin someone out or at least tried too
I just shake my head reading these posts.....So now Grant was in control and purposely torpedo'd the other riders and himself when he had a good start? Morons.
And by the way idiots saying Reed tried to cut Stewart off, grab a brain. Reed started on Stewart's left and was ahead of him in the whoops. If he thought Stewart was close and tried to hit him that means he would have swerved right to hit him, not left like what happened. Reed simply lost control and got into Grant, Grant did what he could to stay upright. How any of you think there was malicious intentions and guys would risk going down themselves with the entire 450 class roaring in behind them in a whoop section on the first lap is beyond me.
I forgot to add, Stewart was never in Reed's sights once they got out of the gate. Considering Stewart was on the opposite side of Reed from when the gate dropped Reed must have some pretty amazing mind reading abilities and eyes in the back of his head. I don't understand how this can be such a debauchle, Reed got out of control, caused a pile up, racing incident.
OK,OK,, Now that I have read all of the posts and watched the vids, I now know who's fault the big pileup was caused by! IT WAS ALL MY FAULT i ADMIT IT! There that should settle iit. The only other person that I might be able to blame would be RV because that is who everyone was chasiing so if he would not have got the holeshot it would not have happened, simple as that.
This makes as much sense as most of the other posts.
YEAH Grant should have just slowed down in the whoops, yeah that is easy!!! Get a grip Reed was the cause grant had no where to go once Reed cut him off on the right side of the straight. and this is from a guy who is no fan of Grant at all!!
Regardless of who's "fault" it was
Wasn't done with my comment. lol. Anyway, the size of the incident, and the riders involved naturally are gonna bring out all sorts of emotion. Early on I read a bunch of Reed/Stewart "rivalry" tweets which is so lame. There's no way at this stage in the game that anyone "mastermined" the incident. Again as far as blame, even looking at the footage, It could be argued either way. Reed or Grant?? Reed has no history of this unless you're gonna argue the famous Reed hates Stewart, which again, LAME..., and for that matter, the supposed Reed/Stewart "rivalry" has been over now for quite some time. While they're not "buddies", I seriously doubt each one gives a rats behind about the other. As for Grant, unfortunately he's been here before and that's on him, however to say he was the culprit doesn't make much sense either. At least not with the start he got. I know it's been said here now many times in these comments, but yes, racing incident, nothing more, nothing less. Seriously, those of you conspiracy nuts can be annoying.
Josh Getoutoftheway Grant
1) Change the Red Flag rules!! We got cheated.
2) Change approval procedures for track design!!! We got cheated.
3) Change from 20 laps to a real race-35 or 40 laps!!! We get cheated.
4) Change anything to lesson the importance of the holeshot!!! We get cheated.
Oh yeah, Go Dunge!!!
To the RACER X person who posted this article and the CR haters. Your about as dumb as you are blind! First off I'm not a CR fan but he has my respect. He didn't get into Grant, Grant got into him because GRANT didnt want to slow down to avoid an accident, clearly CR was ahead of Grant- got out of control in the whoops, was regaining control in the corner, then Grant T-boned CR and caused the rest to happen. Get a grip haters and the dumbs at Racer X who clearly had his CR beer goggles on.
Talk about biased! Pointing the finger at Reed!?!? He many people has the human lawn dart taken out , by being outta control!?!? Any who it if you watch it in slo mo Reed tried to avoid contact with Saps. It was a racing incident get over it get of Bubbles jock racer!
Whoever decided to have whoops right into that turn is to blame.
BK-R, I didn't mean any disrespect, I was just surprised that no one had yet to point that out that Reed cut across Stewart's line. I don't think he did anything on purpose there, I doubt he even knew where Stewart was. I think brraap211's summary is pretty accurate except it looked to me like there was a little contact with Millsap's bike that cause Reed to veer back to the right more than he probably wanted to. In any case, like I said in my first post, a racing incident, no big deal.