Monday Conversation: Ryan Villopoto
Monday, January 28, 2013 | 6:30 AM
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PrintSometimes when racers have tough luck at the beginning of the season, they’ll say, “At least I got the bad luck out of the way.” But man, does that statement ever apply to Monster Energy Kawasaki’s Ryan Villopoto. Just four races after a rough opening round to Monster Energy Supercross, most of the competition has run into their own problems, while Ryan is winning races and climbing the points ladder. Here, our man Steve Matthes caught up with him after his second-straight win this season.
Racer X: Wow, what a ride. Wire to wire. Great victory. Lots of seconds on second place early. I know it wasn’t easy but was it hard to focus a little bit out there?
Ryan Villopoto: It was. It was hard to focus just because the track was breaking down and you didn’t want to over-ride it and make mistake that way and crash. So to balance it out it was a little tough. I had a couple...one really big mistake; cased that one triple, but other than that I thought it was good. I think we made some really good progress with the bike and also with my starts. What about that inside gate? [Note: Matthes has been razzing RV for taking the inside gate at most of the races this year and then also getting bad starts…and of course Ryan loves to give it right back].
Yeah, for the heat race you went next to the box, where Tony [Alessi] said you would go after he saw you prepping it during track walk. For real, you actually took gate you were kicking when Tony saw you?
Actually James took the one that I was actually kicking, and then I went to the right of the box.
Ryan Villopoto is now eight points back of Davi Millsaps after his win in Oakland.
Simon Cudby photo
For the main though you went four from the inside. What’s the strategy in that? Why the drastic change from heat to the main?
I had a great start in the qualifier. Maybe just a hair a little far out, so we tried to go a little farther inside in case things weren’t just awesome, and sneak around the inside. But then I was able to rip a really good holeshot.
Track looked like it was breaking down pretty good. You couldn’t see most of the guys but some of the guys from the 10-20 range were having some sketchy moments out there.
The track was sketchy. So when it’s like that you just try to get the 20 laps over with and just ride consistently and not make any big mistakes. It was tough, for sure. That was the problem I was having, not riding too hard and not riding too slow and making mistakes that way.
Kind of hard to not let your mind wander a little bit and think about different stuff when you have a lead like that?
For sure. With the lead that I had and obviously if I had a little bit of pressure I would have just kept pushing. But I was like, okay, I have a lead, don’t push too hard, [don’t] make a mistake that way. And then it went the other way where it’s almost like you need to focus and concentrate on not making a mistake. If it would have been a track where it wasn’t so deteriorated and not so bad I would have been able to just keep charging.
I talked to Mikey [Williamson, Ryan's Mechanic] this week about testing. He said you guys did some suspension testing this week, but he said it was actually not very much because you were happy with the setup you had before A2. True?
Yeah, we made some minor changes. I think we rode Anaheim 1, figured out where we were, made some changes, went to Phoenix, different track conditions, figured out where we were, made some changes… I think if we’re not spot on we’re really close. So we’ll keep just trying to critique and make little changes and make it a little bit better before we go back east. And then obviously we’re not within a few miles of where the team’s at and where we can just test very easily. It’s not out of the question but once we go east we try to stay east.
Villopoto will head east to train in Florida after San Diego.
Simon Cudby photo
And you’re going east? You’re going to stay in California until the series goes east and then you’re going to base yourself in Florida?
Yeah, that’s where our house is at. That’s where we live most of the year.
Right after San Diego?
Yeah.
Looks like a good Panini you’re eating. Turkey guacamole?
It’s actually avocado. So yes, it’s very tasty. Do you want one?
No, I’m good, thank you.
You kind of look like you need it, Matthes. You’re withering away.
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withering away never looked so fat
Avocado IS quacamole, Ryan!
Dude, you mean panino, panini is plural
Two weeks in a row he made Milsaps look slow. Only a matter of time before the Red plate is back home.
.Canard look GREAT!!
.RD look good too. Look a bit more agressive. over the finish line in the heat he even did a one legger so he must have been feeling it.
,To bad Reed took out half the pack in turn two!!
There are not enough hours in a day to correct all of the language errors made during the moto broadcasting/reporting.
So much for the stacked class and best season ever. I guess it can still be but when you look and see the top 10 here with Alessi 5th and others finding themselves up there? Round 4 is over and I won't be surprised if Stewart is out and am really hoping Barcia is ok, but there's 13 more rounds! It is good to see Dungey up there and going the speed finally. But RV is just pretty much ridiculous. For him to now be saying the setup is spot on, or very close to it, just is not a good sign for the rest. I would wonder if anyone lining up actually believes they can run with him, even if they force themselves to think it. Need RV to start around 4th-5th (with Barcia, Dungey, Canard ahead) to see some good racing for the lead. I didn't include Reed or Stewart because they have been ahead of him and only served as a hinderance as he went by.
@yamaha317
The largest and longest-running error in moto broadcasting is named Ralph.
Reed didnt take everyone out...... It was GRANT that Finished everyone off by plowing Reed up into everyone...
RV is BEAST !!
Hey BillC, why would you say Villapoto made Millsaps looks slow and the very next line you say Canard looked GREAT?? So did Millsaps make Canard look slow? Youre a MORON!
Notice how BILLC keeps blaming Reed for the big crash, but after all ther crashes Stewart has caused, we nave NEVER seen BILLC blame or say anything about Stewart doing it.. What a hypocrite BILLC, get over it, the real fans and people who know what they are talking about realize it was cause by the riders bunched in the whoops after a start.. Dumb design.. So quit putting that in every post like a Tard..
@ronni--Yes, no kidding,,,BILLC say RV made Millsaps look slow, and he says Canard looked great..And Millsaps finishes 2nd and Canard finishes 4th.. and BILLC had the balls to say he liked Millsaps after he was called out for all the bad stuff he says about him.. And gives Millsaps a shot there.. You make no sense BillC, so did Millsaps make Canard look slow by finishing two spots ahead of him??
@singletrack
Dead on.
@singletrack
Guacamole is not an avocado. Thats like saying salsa is a tomato. Get your delicious food straight!
Singletrack that is so true! Ralph is a tool. On more that one level
whether Canard finishes 4th 12th or wins, he will always look great.
I'll second or third or whatever the Shaheen thing, just a plug.
Congrats to Ryan Villopoto! When the Firecracker explodes out of the gate to a holeshot, we have yet to see him get run down from behind, unless he makes a mistake...I don't think he made Millsaps look slow, Davi just played it smart and safe, riding in control for a second place points.. Ryan has most of the riders willing to settle for second, rather than risking a fall trying to run his pace, like MC, RC did..Helmets off the the Champ for his win!! ...Hopefully at A Triple, some one will step up and make him work a little harder so it will not be so easy for him...
The last time RV was all smiles it was hard for the competition to smile.
Reed was the catalyst that started the carnage(trying to not hit Davi) causing RD to cross over in front of Barcia taking him down. It looked like that would be it until Grant hit Reed. How did Grant go from straight to full lock swap in 10 feet? Did he hit someone? Maybe just trying to slow down in the whoops, but he was still going pretty fast when he hit Reed.
The mad pooper strikes again, leaving a giant steaming heap on Barcia's night.
So is everything Matthes posts going to be a transcript of his pulpmx podcast recordings?
ronniebarnhardt and the realtool, OK I will type slow for you, RV makde Saps look slow the last two races beause last week he PASSED Saps and put 10+ sec on him, This week Saps was right behind him and AGAIN RV put 10sec on him. Is it really that hard to figure out? and For Canard looking great, Lets see he got stoped in the turn two mess and came from around 16th to finishes 4th, that was way more impresove than starting 2nd and falling 10 sec behind the leader. Saps is doing a GREAt job but he is not as fast as RV ,RD or TC and is showed again.
.Talk about people that know nothing about the sport. LMAO at the two of you. were you texting each other wile posting?? what a JOKE you both are!!
PS the crash, Like Misoheye said "Reed was the catalyst that started the carnage"
I think RV, RD, and TC were the fastest guys on the track sat . Milsaps started well and rode smart. RD and TC got caught and really came through the pack well. So I agree with Billc that RD and TC looked really good. Simple statement and spot on. Dungy really rode well all night and was more aggressive- here's to him to continue to improve- I wasn't really worried. I hope Canard really keeps his focus , I was worried when he went down, he was a little faster than rd for some of the race.
I was very bummed that the crash took out so many contenders from fighting for the win. Anybody know how Barcia and stewart are ? I really believe Stew is trying his best to survive and compete-kudo's to him. Barcia- man tough break ! The start tells me everyone is starting REALLY well when TC, Barcia etc get midpack starts -wow !
one other thing the realtool. I stand by what I said about Sap's in the past, I said he was underperforming and I was right. I said Honda would can him, short and IT9 and people said I was crazy but guess what?? Honda Canned them all!!
.I will ask you agin WHY do you keep reading my post's? Are You so sad and your life so wothless that you can't stop? You must really have issues!!
Way to get the holeshot and stay out of the carnage RV.. You didnt happen to pay Reed off, did you??? hahaha..
Thanks davidl .
.Seemed pretty simple to me too but some I guess have no raceing knowage at all.
BillC
Puttin on a real clinic ! YEAH BABY
BillC Millsaps was not right behind RV in Oakland, by the time Davi got around Brayton, RV had put down his fast lap, 54.99 and had a 4-5 sec gap on him. RV, ran a couple more laps in the 55's..When Millsaps got into second, he ran his best lap 56.223 sec laps, a few more in the 56s, when the track broke down and both backed it down to the 57's...each backing off into the 58's, then 59's on the last lap...To me, in Oakland, while RV had the fastest time once again, Milsaps did not look slow just smart..
RV's av lap time 57.018, Millsap's 57.421, Dungey's 57.162 and Canard's 57.485.. Trey's fastest lap was on lap 5 with a 56.478 while Dungey's did not happen until lap 14 with a 56.136...
MotoOfficialPage has uploaded a 21.44min video on YouTube, of the Oakland 450 Main, in case anyone missed it's airing on Sunday.
Excellent video/audio HD quality, by the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-as5_H3IIy4
Another serious heart injury associated with a neck brace and a high energy impact to the upper chest at Xgames. I don't know for sure but I'm thinking this is why a lot of top guys are ditching them. Anyone know? RV still sporting one.
@ 909
RV wears one but it has shock absorbers on the front where it rests on the sternum area...pretty cool.
RX posted a video the other day of him and Weimer training and they both speak of the neck brace...was actually more an advertisment than an MX vid now that I think about it.
Probably sliced Avocado... A Panini (sandwich)... have seen it on the menu at 'The Corner Bakery' out here in SoCal... [ http://www.cornerbakerycafe.com/MenuNutrition/Menu.aspx?category=1006 ] had one with sliced avocado (they'll give it to you if you ask for it). Who cares...? Except maybe Matthes.
Great quality Video link, caseypons... Looks like Reed's back end (Shock issue?) got loose, Then he bounced toward Millsaps, they touched and Reed almost had it 'woed' down but Grant couldn't find enough F/R brake to keep from hitting Reed.
Had Reed not been there 'in trouble', Grant might have braked hard and low and gotten through the corner... Didn't anyone notice Dungey's move cutting off Barcia?
I'd blame it all on poor track design: narrow 180 first turn... and immediately after it a fast technical whoop section while everyone is still sorting things out...
Worst track design of the season so far.
@BillC--what is "raceing knowage" you lost me there wiith your 6th grade education, and "on-line " degree knowledge of the English language..LOL!!!
nice deflection thereaLmofo. So you know the english language better than I do and i know Moto better. I think most can see that.
True BD25 but the times show that RV was over 1 sec faster than Sap's best. Weather Saps tried to run him down or not we don't know. The only fact we know is Saps never put a dent in the lead in fact it grow slowly and his best lap was over 1 sec slower than RV's best lap so to me it shows that RV was faster or Saps was slower how ever you word it it's the same. as for smart?? again we don't know. maybe Saps was going 100%?? we will never know for sure only Saps knows that.
.If RV gets the red plate we will see if Saps can turn it up or not I guess. My guess is he is not as fast as RV even if he needs to be. Saps has had great starts every race so far and is riding very good (not the fastest but good enough so far)and that is why he still has the RED wile everyone else has had at least one bad race either their own fault or someone elses but Saps so far has been blessed LOL.
Lol therealmofo, shut up. You're just a weekend warrior who plays the tough guy role behind the keyboard. lol
Lol therealmofo, shut up. You're just a weekend warrior who plays the tough guy role behind the keyboard. lol
@cpprunner17 LOL!! Yea sure kinda like you are doing now right??? What a tool. Bill and I do thins all the time so dont get your panties in a bunch toolbag...We have a good time with it...and I am pretty tough though..LOL!!!!
Lol chill man! I'm just pulling your leg. However, I do think it's funny that it's always the same people commenting directly after these articles are posted. I've always wondered if anyone works lol
@BILLC-- NO doubt RV is faster than Millsaps, I dont think Millsaps can beat him if they have a clear track and are 1-2.. But you made is seem like Millsaps is just a clown with your post.. He doesnt look slow at all, he is the points leader and finished the race second, pretty good if you ask me.. And Dungey look alot better, he needs to forget the air-shock and keep being aggressive..
@therealmofo,, Just wondering if everyone but you is a "tool" on here?
"Withering away", That's a good one. It's too bad RV comes across so stiff on the TV interviews. He obviously has a sense of humor.
therealmofo .... Pull my finger.
Glad to see you are haveing fun tpo because I am LMAO over here!!
.maybe I could have worded it more eloquently for you so you would not blow a gasket. But the bottom line is as you said Sap's is not as fast as RV. I never said Saps looks like a clown just that weeks in a row the points leader got smoked....Sorry....was defeated....I am trying to be more sensitive to your needs.
one question therealmofo. Is it true your nick name at the track is TheRealslomo ??
I don't see what is wrong with saying RV made Milsaps look slow, especially at A2. He made everyone look slow there.
At Oakland, it can be debated some but still he was 10 seconds ahead at the finish. If you want to take average laptime into account, Davi is .4 of a second behind which over 20 laps equals 8 seconds. I think if you want to say Davi slowed down (which I think he did) you have to also realize RV did the same (which he did). The only fast laps came in the first 5 or so, where RV did indeed make Milsaps look slow. That being said, RV again made just about everyone look slow. The 3 fastest guys on the track were RV, Canard and Dungey. Dungey was only 1/10 off of RV's average and Canard was about the same as Millsaps but got held up in the 2nd turn AND fell off the bike at one point. Wow, didn't even realize this but Canard was 16th after the first lap. He brought it all the way back up to 4th and 12 seconds behind Milsaps? That is impressive. Dungey was impressive too coming from 12th.
Not much to conclude after this round. RV is the fastest guy on the track, there is no doubt about it. He has an exceptional combination of speed and execution, with just enough consistency to pull it off. He is also probably the best guy at making very quick passes if he needs to, so if he pulls holeshots or even top-5 starts the only guy who can beat him is himself. Things only get interesting when he gets bad starts.
Before I hand him the championship though, one has to consider how close to the edge he is riding a lot of time. I still maintain that compared to some of the other contenders, RV has a higher probability of throwing it away and having a zero point night. Not quite like JS7, but the potential is there and more likely than 22, 5, or 18. I also put Canard in the same camp as RV, he's on the edge and crosses over it from time to time and if he gets closer to a win or he and RV are battling for the lead, watch out.
It is tough that people are still trying to hang the 2nd turn melee on Grant based on nothing but bias. Saying Reed was saving it until Grant plowed into him is like blaming someone at a stoplight in traffic for getting rear-ended into the car in front of them. Milsaps even Tweeted how ridiculous it is that Grant is getting blamed for it when he was not at fault. Objectivity, learn it and use it. It is what has found me not saying a single negative thing about Stewart this year. I can't stand Grant, saw the stupidity he showed when RV and Stewart were trying to get by him, but can also see he in no way caused this pileup. He was just the guy that Reed caught up in it, just as Stewart was the guy that Reed hit at the top of the berm. Blaming Grant is as ridiculous as saying Stewart shouldn't have positioned his bike at the top of the berm where Reed was heading. You can't slam on your brakes in the whoops, especially with 10 more guys flying through the whoops behind you.
BillC...so what happened at A1?? Didnt Millsaps get passed and then pass back Canard for the win?? Was that just luck that night? Did Canard just let him have that win cause he's such a nice guy? My point is you give Canard tons of credit and Millsaps none and thats just plain stupid and it makes you look stupid. By the way thanks for dropping the knowage on us all. You must go to RCU!
ronniebarnhardt..............PLEASE, I gave Saps a lot of prase for his A1 ride. but dude that was 4 WEEKS AGO, welcome to today!!! talk about stupid!!
.Why does it bug you so much that I thought Canard rode great?? You must have some issues.
hamncheeze, I think that was well said. I don't know if RV is on the edge though any more. I think he has found that he is still the fastest guy on the track even when not going all out. That is the biggest problem they all have now with him. I think he has a pace going that isn't close to his fastest which is something that MC used to have. Anyone who has raced has found that zone where you know you have this guy or that guy covered and can beat him at will without taking risks. I think this is what RV goes to the line with now everytime and it includes everyone on the planet being covered. I don't think he was concerned at all to only qualify 3rd in practice. Until someone goes good enough that he can't catch them or actually pulls away from him, that confidence is just going to build and build. The bike would still feel like crap if he was looking for another half second a lap, but everyone else is looking for the half second. It is almost spot on though since he is so fast out there.
I agree B-KR and I think RV's comfort level is much above where he was in 2011 and probably equal to 2012 where, in all honesty, no one could run with him. As much I think the other contenders are great riders and I have huge respect for #22, 5, 41, 18, 7, 41....RV is just that much faster. The other guys have to hope for some A1 repeats, where bad luck and bad starts give them a chance.
If RV pulls top-5 starts I could easily see a 5-race winning streak form. Or longer.
I don't get it. We all know the fastest guy doesn't always win due to starts, crashes, etc. We also saw Mike Alessi get 5th this weekend and no one is going to claim he doesn't look slow out there compared with even someone like Short (who Mike beat). Since BillC talked about the last two weeks, why bring up A1? Probably wouldn't make much sense to judge RV now on his A1 performance either. Anyone think Milsaps will be better than 4th place in the standings after Vegas? That is if everyone else avoids injuries.
Here's the teaser about RV's family life if anyone hasn't seen it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYilxhurOR4
His dad seems like a d-bag, and RV seems like he's gonna hang it up (relatively) soon.
Livin the dream ain't always a dream kids.
BillC RV did set the fastest time of the main on the second lap, while he had the track to himself and it was 1.23 faster than Davi's best...Advantage to RV for having a clear fresh track..could Davi have matched it who knows, maybe not.
By looking at the video, Davi was 6 seconds down to RV when he got around Brayton, the smart thing is just to put in good solid laps, as no one is going to come from that far back to take the lead from him...Same with RV, with that big lead no sense in pushing it..from laps 5 through 20 the their lap times were separated by only tenths with Millsaps having 5 laps faster then RV.
It does boil down to the way you said it, as mofo said, it just sounded disrespectful to the points leader, in an effort to praise the rider you like...Which is really not a big deal in the scheme of things, goes on all the time, by all of us on here.....Think of it this way, after Phoenix if some would have said, Barcia made RV look slow.. How foolish that would have sounded to you...after all Barcia av lap times were two tenths faster than RV's, while Justin protected his big lead...
LOL ...Just had to give you a hard time, it has been awhile...All joking a side, your rider has looked really sharp the last two races.. BUT food for thought, RV did not have the fastest lap time during the nights racing ....the other Ryan did, Dungey had a 54.867 in his heat race...LOL
Are you kidding me!! You dont think Millsaps will be in the top 4 at the end of the year?? I'll take that bet all day! I'll admit I never would have made that prediction at the beginning of the year but come on, you have to go by what you see on the track.
Now if you would have said RV made Alessi look slow you would not have caught any grief....Sorry Mike....lol
I posted this at another place awhile ago.
After A-1 RV2 had 5 points. In 3 races he has out gained:
DW18, 12
TC41, 16
RD5, 24
CR22, 25
JB51, 45
JS7, 47
No one has passed RV unless he was on the ground. DW18, TC41, & JB51 pretty much had their set ups' pretty spot on from the start. It does not matter about seconds here and there in the past, It is pretty much going to be a RV, RD, &TC; freight train now.
Matthes and RV are buds so it's nice when Matthes does the interview because RV lets his guard down a little bit. With other guys i think his Kawi PR training kicks in and he tries to be politically correct.
Great interview and of course another kick a** ride by the champ!!!
On to the other guys.
Dungey looked good, but how will Dungey do when he has RV, DM, TC, and a healthy JB in front of him? Until we see a race where he can show that he can pass those guys and finish on the podium, Dungey is just a 3-6th place guy.
@BKR
Don't be surprised but Stewart will be in for a few more rounds. Matthes and JT$ hinted that "contractual obligations" are holding him at the races right now. He has to get 2 more top 10's before he can bail on the series, and to get his paycheck. Not sure who the contract is with, but after two more top tens, Stewart will pull out. That's what Matthes and JT$ hinted to anyway.
@BillC, I think the main point is that you have no respect for what Millsaps can do on a bike.. You act as if RV just gapped him by a minute, when Millsaps turned some laps faster than RV did... The guy deserves a little more credit than you seem to want to give him... And we all know you arent a fan, not a big deal just say so.. But the guy is running great.. Better than Canard
Actually everyone wants to jump on the Canard bandwagon like its this big inspirational story since he is coming back from multiple injuries, which is great, but lets not forget that just a few short years ago, Millsaps lost a freaking kidney.. alot worse than broken bones in my opinion..
I made the comment about milsaps last year outdoors wouldnt be around he was to unreliable!!! It panned out to be the correct call. I stand by that this year also..
He will end up 6th in the title by years end ... Stamp it !!
RV is pressing to much and is looking a little ragged which will lead to mistakes.. They all make mistakes.............Did anyone tell you clowns that most all the TOP riders took some kind of get off in practice. Bet you keyboard junkies didnt know that one.
It's a fact this will be the year of {Unpredictability ! You can bet your sweet Hannah on that one !! Next track will be a killer..... look out MOFO'S !!!!
reed started it but grant certainly ended it when he T-boned reed into stewart instead of coming on here talking shit I suggest you go watch it again because I took a sequence of pictures on pause that show the whole thing grant is just at much at fault as reed is and if you dont think he was than where exactly was he going? because there was a turn there and he was going straight
Im gonna see if I can put the photos in a photobucket album and post it so this can be laid to rest
Funny how people want to get on RV about being arrogant. Put yourself in his place and see how you come acrossed. Every time he gets interviewed it is either after a race well before he has time to gather his thoughts and let the adrenaline get under Controll or after a bad race when he is pissed. The man is not arrogant, he is confident and believes that his work ethic and program are the best. His wins seems to back that up.
@jeramey,, "Grant is just as much at fault as Reed is." hahahaha...
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/705C9028-8B1C-46DF-9822-F474945B9A61-1612-000001037CE81450.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/1B1516F7-7741-4291-AE18-F0CA07D3A525-1612-0000010380C46607.jpg
I wont argue with petty folks ill just present facts ;) have a good day
you tell me in that second pic where grant was going?
@jeramey,, Watch at about the 50 second point. I think you need some new specticles....
http://www.motoxaddicts.com/2013/01/27/huge-pile-up-crash-2013-oakland-sx/
BD25...Buddy...You can give me a hard time anytime you want, Your a good egg and I always like talking with you. Hey did you see that I only cought hell for saying Canard looked good but no one gave me crap for saying RD looked good!! Odd!!
.therealmofo...why do you think I dislike Saps?? Really why?? Everything I said about him in the past came true. and the fact that he is doing so well now proves what i said years ago. That he was not putting in the effort. look how good he is now that he is putting in the effort. I am not a big Canard fan either, Like the kid and all but thats all. But he looked real good this weekend, has been fast all year. (still pissed at him for the move he pulled on RV in the lites SX years ago LOL ) I really don't see your gripe.
right on Mxmofo1, It's all on Reed.
@BillC,, Yes it is, but thats part of racing.. Just funny how some people can't see what's right in front of them,, like @jeramey ...
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/oakland pile up/2669F6BA-A26D-4B3A-A5C5-B40C22CFEB18-1612-000001037AF32431.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/705C9028-8B1C-46DF-9822-F474945B9A61-1612-000001037CE81450.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/1B1516F7-7741-4291-AE18-F0CA07D3A525-1612-0000010380C46607.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/oakland pile up/7603D7DA-EF25-491E-BEAE-91F9A125FA77-1612-0000010382F56E59.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/oakland pile up/08FBF167-633E-4679-9968-97073D007422-1612-000001037ED74D33.jpg
The Barcia, Canard, Dungey, Millsaps Reed, Stewart and Villopoto are sensational. Just as everyone is different, so are these riders, that's what makes this series so interesting. Each one can ride a motorcycle fast, but each uses a different style, approach and attitude, while trying to accomplish the same goal, The Supercross Championship...
Some people like Chinese food, others can't stand it. Some like Mexican food, others cant stand it. A person's taste in food is individual, ask why you like one or the other, some times it is hard to give a reason, you just do. We don't get mad, when some one disses our favorite food. Why is it we get upset when someone disses our favorite rider? It is really no different, just a personal choice, something we like, but for some reason, we identify with that rider and even though we don't know him at all, we want to defend him...
I respect each rider who gets out on the track and each one of you giving an opinion on here. You are entitled to cheer for whom ever you wish, for what ever reason you choose. We all see the same race, but don't see the same thing, that's what makes bench racing so interesting. Viva le difference !!!
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look at the pictures jackass @ mxmofo
@jeramey ,,, Your right, ONE picture says it all.. The VIDEO doesnt show a thing.. Are you still wet behind the ears??? hahaha... Dude, seriously !!!!
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there those should all work see for yourself
some of you old farts need your bifocals checked
but you know josh grant has been riding so smooth this year I could certainly understand why you wouldnt think he had anything to do with it (sarcasm)
@jeramey ,, Just go back to riding your tri-cycle...
kinda hard to argue with that huh? yeah I can tell by your lame ass comeback just shut up you are wrong and you look stupid
@jeramey,, Your are right.. I should have call you a "jackass." That would have been a much better comeback... What was I thinking????
why are you even trying to argue? I just shut your whole stupid arguement down with facts those photos are not photoshopped the video happens to fast to even tell what really happened you can clearly see by the pictures who hit hit grant plowed the shit out of them
I still want to know by those who claim grant inocent ......where was he going? and at what point was he planning on apexing the turn? when he went over the berm?
"who hit who" ***
@scrubthis
You're a clown. Keep your goon observations to yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about. Phag
Just my two cents with old eyes and slo mo...Reed got sideways bumped Stewart coming through the whoops, which sent him back across the track, where he hit Grant..when they got in the corner Reed was trying regain control to turn but was T-boned by Grant...pushing Reeds bike up into Stewart....what we don't know is, was it intentional on Grant's part or was he just out of control due to being hit by Reed...We will never know, just glad no one was hurt seriously by this racing incident....
@bd25 by intentional are you implying some sort of JGR "take stewart out bonus" ? lol J/K
@ persona
Your one to talk Dungey isnt a 3-6 place guy .. Okay punk for conversation you think Lil toto is # 1 and Stewy is second ..You live life thru rose colored glasses ..
You chick told me no poop in the ppee hole...CHICK !
@ Scrub - I'm not a DM18 guy, but he's been riding very consistant thru the first 1/4 of the season. I can see an argument for him to drop back to 4th in points after Vegas with TC, RV and either CR or RD making up the points, but who is your 5th guy to put him to 6th? AS (-29) JW (-38) JB10 (-43) JB51 (-44) I don't see it happening, just curious?
@ BD25
My 1 cent since I have know clout like you... I sais the same thing but grant had an opportunity to get on the breaks and get inside .. Typical grant used the other guys bike for a berm..Thats racing happens even in old Oklahoma in January ! LOL
kARMA would rear its ugly head and pull grant back into the belly of the beast..Kinda the same place most of these poser poster live LOL dONT DEFEND THEM EITHER...It's just the way they are ...Couch potato keyboard Whores !!!
@ motodog77
It's still early
1. RV
2. RD
3. JB { these two JB 51 and CR22 TOSS UP FOR 3-4 }
4. CR
5.TC
* 6. DM
7. JW
8. AS
9. Justin Brayon
10. Josh Grant
@scrub - BamBam it is . . . alright, he better get some more holey's, he's got 3.4 points per race to make up. I'm pulling for him, just bummed about all the points lost in the last 2 races, big hole for the rookie.
wow so two of the most consistent guys get put 5th and 6th?? I guess
if canard starts in front of dungey he finishes in front of dungey im pretty sure the same goes for milsaps theres no way dungey is gonna make a pass on either of them he has one good race after a first turn pileup and now he's back up to 2nd? pump the brakes
you guys do remember that had not been for that wash-out milsaps would have been on the podium every race so far right?
Scrub lol.. me, clout?? on here?? lol..
I guess if milsaps wins the title guys on here will claim he got lucky, Im and RV fan but even I know he's one bad race away from the couch milsaps has been smooth,fast, and consistent give the guy some credit
If ands & Butts thats what Carlsbad says .. Then he also says alot more........
Hey who ever wins deserves it period END OF STORY ...
Record book will reflect... LOLL!!! Last time I ever check the "BOOK " I never recall an Asterix beside an name ............Except if it was mine ...LOL!
@jeramey - every racer is one bad race away from the couch. We're just doing a little 1/4 complete bench racing/predicting. You don't think the current top 10 will stay to same for another 13 races right? May as well throw your top 10 final standing in . . . here's my SWAG (barring injury, of course):
1. RV - dude is fast enough to make up for a bad race quicker than anyone.
2. TC - only 7 points back and just getting into race shape, wouldn't have guessed that 4 weeks ago.
3. DM - had him 7th 4 weeks ago . . . he looks better than that now.
4. CR - don't see him making 20 pts on DM.
5. RD - unless he starts passing guys, he's just too polite.
6. JB51 - don't see him making 27 pts on RD this year, but he sure hauls.
7. JW - would like to put AS here but a healthy JW makes up the 9 pts.
8. AS - would have been 7th if he could have kept the HRC bike.
9. JS - he gets 2 wins and has some crashes, bonus $ for top 10 o/a me thinks . . .
10. JB10 - would like to see him higher but he's only 4 pts up on JS now.
Jeramey, haha, you're good for a laugh!
We all have dvr's and high-def tv's that we watched the sequence in slow motion where we can even slow-mo the broadcast's slow-mo. We need your blurry screen grabs as the final proof as to Grant's guilt? I can't even tell which rider is which in your "proof" sequence. Did you look at those and actually think "yeah, that CLEARLY shows my dumb premise"?
And let's stop with the "IF'S". If Davi didn't slide out......
If Canard didn't slide out......
If Barcia didn't hit neutral at A1.......
If Barcia didn't try to get a close look at his crossbar pad....
If Barcia didn't get caught up in the first turn pileup.....
If RV didn't slide out.....
If RV catches pneumonia from Weimer.....
If Stewart didn't hurt his knee.....
etc etc etc etc.
At the end of the year we can all say if Milsaps didn't have that one bad race (that will come at some point in 13 rounds) he would have finished better. We already saw his non-factory motor lock up....."what if" that was the main event instead of a heat? No disrespect in saying I think he will be 4th or worse at season's end. 4th place against this wrecking crew is damn good and actually worthy of a big dollar factory ride. If the guys that end up ahead of him are named Poto, Dunge and Canard?
my point was, compared to everyone elses incidents milsaps has been the most consistent with the best results. And yes milsaps can have a bad night too but he doesnt really seem to be riding crazy or on the edge
I love canard but if he dont clean it up hes gonna have a bad night soon hes had close calls in every single race
RV is probably in the most danger because he is going the fastest so if he hits the ground at speed its not gonna be good
barcia is now a non factor for his own title race but he will shuffle the points when hes taking positions from others
@motodog your picks look a lot more like what I would pick the only switch is possibly DM and TC
@bkr what the hell are you talking about? these jackasses above where giving grant a pass and I was showing that grant made a bad situation worse
scroll up I said "reed started it but grant finished it" and guys were laughing like I was an idiot If you can honestley look at the picture of grant plowing into them and think that was perfectly okay than I wont even bother having a discussion with you I'd be better off talking moto to my chic or the wall if thats the case
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/getndome/7603D7DA-EF25-491E-BEAE-91F9A125FA77-1612-0000010382F56E59.jpg
looks like a 33,22, and a 7 to me
@ jeramey
Good thing you aint covering the photo end for Supercross I got better pics with my cell across the trackk... Wait till the video you lil dill weed
Maico25- Reed passed RV at a-2 then RV got him back a lap later. RV did not go down that race
I learned a valuable lesson by all this don interrupt the retards and end their argument because they will than turn their attention on you when their is nothing left to argue about
Oh and facts are not welcome on this site only opinions I think I've got it figured out guys now we can all coincide in peace
@ jeramey, anyone with eyes could see Reed got into Grant before Grant got out of shape. Unless you are blind how can you not see Reed come right across into Grant's line? Grant went straight into him because they were in a set of knee deep whoops, have you ever ridden a legit SX track with real whoops? I have, and you can't just shut off and change direction. You are trying way too hard to prove something that isn't there. Grant got gobbled up in it like anyone else. You are only looking at the corner, not where the chain reaction started. Grant was doing what he could to stay upright and couldn't get stopped because of Reed's mistake.
Even the Stewart fans that dislike me for being hard on the #7 will agree with me on this. Do you ride quads by any chance?
Say what you want grant fu**ed up he knew reed was jacked up by the time they got together there was only a few whoops left grant was supposed to turn hard right instead he did a slight left and went straight into them I didn't say it was his fault but he did play a huge role in it lets not even take into account the guys been riding likes total dipshit since the start of the season but ill let you keyboard warriors have your moment, you guys are such douchebags its always the same questions.... Are you14? Do you even ride? Do you ride quads? Gtfo with that half you clowns are trail riders acting like you know moto I'm willing to bet I could smoke half the posers that post on here
You keep talking and we'll keep laughing. "Acting like we know moto", well we sure know who doesn't...
@jeramey,,, Well, I think there is about 5 guys who agree with me,, you lose!!!
Also jeramey, I don't recall riding with you at the Bell's house or on GPF's SX and outdoor tracks about 5 years ago before I quit racing and going south in the winter. I think I got you covered ;)