Super Spoiler: Oakland
Saturday, January 26, 2013 | 11:45 PMThe fourth round of Monster Energy Supercross in in the books, and for some riders it was business as usual. For others, not so much.
When the 250SX gate dropped Cole Seely nearly kept the Lucas Oil TLD Honda streak of holeshots alive, but Joey Savatgy just edged him to start the lead in first. Seely made quick work of him, however, and Ken Roczen quickly followed. That set up a duel between the two that would end with Roczen eventually taking the lead and gapping Seely. Jason Anderson rode to a lonely third, followed by Martin Davalos.
The battle for fifth was intense, involving Savatgy, Malcolm Stewart, and Kyle Cunningham. Cunningham was having the best race of the year, but he got tired and started making mistakes. He dialed it back a notch and finished seventh. Stewart edged out Savatgy just a few turns before the finish to round out the top five.
For Tomac, the race was an absolute disaster. He started around eight and went down just a few laps in and restarted miles behind everyone. Then, several laps later he went down hard in the whoops and broke his visor and limped off the track. No word yet on his condition.
In the 450 main the fireworks started almost immediately. Chad Reed ended up getting squirrely in the first whoop section and ended up torpedoing into the pack as they were rounding the 180 degree second turn. It caused a massive pileup that claimed the likes of James Stewart, Justin Barcia, Josh Grant and many more. Barcia looked hurt, but he ended up walking off under his own power. Stewart took a ton of time to get going again, rolled the track and pulled off.
Up front it was all Ryan Villopoto, who avoided the carnage by pulling the holeshot. He would lead the entire race and win by a mile, followed by Davi Millsaps, who rode the entire race in a lonely second. Dungey got third after coming through a few guys. Trey Canard looked good early, but a small crash ruined any chance he had at making a run at the podium.
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No Js7! Reed..........????????
Rv2 2013 champ
Way to take out the pack Reed!!!!
1. Davi Millsaps, Murrieta, Calif., Suzuki – 85
2. Trey Canard, Shawnee, Okla., Honda – 78
3. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki – 77
4. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., KTM – 68
5. Chad Reed, Australia, Honda – 65
6. Andrew Short, Smithville, Texas, Honda – 56
Jake Weimer, Rupert, Idaho, Kawasaki – 47
Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda – 41
James Stewart, Haines City, Fla., Suzuki – 38
Josh Grant, Riverside, Calif., Yamaha – 37
where were the heat and lcq updates?,,damn!! racer x got a bit lazy tonight,,im sure the cbs coverage is gonna stink,,is stink a better word RACER X??,hahaha
When ET rode like a S that west series becomes BS
I said yesterday we were gonna have a yard sale, and that's what happened. I sure can't wait to see it. The updates tonight were terrible. What did Reedy do?
trev530: Slow your roll there sport. 4 down and 13 to go....
I see now. Reed just won't quit until he takes JS7 out for the season. How many times have we seen this one?
Thanks Tim's moto for posting the standings. After the results of the race, that should be the next thing Racer X post but I can never find them!!!!!!
It's getting sooo competitive with such a deep group of riders and it will only get more competitive next year with the likes of ET and DW. If the AMA doesn't change something (maybe a 1 race mulligan per rider?? Maybe two 15+2 motos??) the best riders will seldom win or finish top 3 going forward.
RV is a machine.
If only we could get obama to follow stew around a SX track... Problem solved.
"Dungey got third after coming through a few guys."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. My sides are in orbit. Oh wow
@RCRDDW - The best riders of the night finished top 3, they were up front out of the gate and avoided the BS. The system is just fine, every race counts, this isn't golf and anything less than 20 laps would be JV. Wins are wins and yard sale crashes happen.
RV had an easy night of it, goes to show how important the holeshot is...Millsaps rode a good race and kept the red plate. Dungey came from 12th to 3rd had his fastest lap on lap 14 for the second fastest behind RV. Canard rode well to get up to 4th and hang on to second in the points. Reed hit the ground hard they said and Barcia was limping, hope he is not injured. As slow as James got up and going I wonder if we will see any more of James this season..
It would have been interesting if the Ryans had gotten out together, as the they were the only one dipping into the 54's all evening. RD had a 54.8 in his heat and RV had the 54.99 on the 2nd lap of the main..Those two are great competitors and bring out the best in each other, always race each other with respect which is fun to watch! Regardless of all the trash talk, there is a reason that the Ryan's hold all the titles since 2010...
@jmpnbob - So what do JS7 and Obama have in common? Oh. I see. One of those guys. Shouldn't you be washing some sheets or something?
@ DJ - I was thinking the same thing. Looks like Dungey came from about 10th or 12th to finish 3rd. That is more than a few guys. That is almost half of the field!
Not sure what happened with Reed but I hope everyone is OK.
Watching the timing the past few laps looked like Canard was on fire for a bit there.
Villopoto must have been a machine and Milsaps continues to impress me.
How come no word on what happened to Brayton? He was in third for quite a while there I though...
reed takes out js7 again. reed wants js7 out he allways did
Eli wasn't flowing in practices to qualifying either
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@redneck - RD tood JB10 high when he got inside of him.
What was that, RD5's best race of the year? Impressive. lol If you guys think anyone has anything for RV1 right now, well, you're deluding yourselves.
@SuperSXFanMan - Relax you dumbass - He was talking about having someone take Obama out which James has done on more than one occasion. Even though his statement was stupid and lame, he did not say anything at all about race or even insinuate it....but you did. Quit being a race baiter. Maybe he doesn't like Obama...More than half of the nation doesn't. Me included. A lot of people also don't like James but dip$hits like you automatically assume it is because of the color of their skin when in 99.9% of the cases it has nothing to do with skin color. Quit fanning the flames and take people at their words and quit putting words into other peoples mouths.
@motodog77 - Thanks man! I was wondering what happened there. I was pulling for Brayton to have a break out race!.....Actually I was pulling for James to get it going a bit too.......Damnnn....
I can't wait to hope I get to see it on TV tomorrow, the guide says its on at 9 AM.
I sure hope its right this week.
Live timing is cool and all that but man it makes you wonder how it really went down.
Hope everyone that crashed is ok.
@porcupinetree - So you are saying Reed will always take James out on purpose? Really? Do you have any idea of how idiotic that sounds? As if there is no chance Reed would ever get hurt himself when intentionally taking someone out??? Really? You think guys like Reed, Stewart or any top pro is really that petty?
You are a silly little person.
SuperSXFanMan I think RD could have gave him a race this evening, if RD would have got a good start.. not saying he would have beat him as RV rode great, but he would have gave him a race more so than Millsaps...who just settled in, couple more laps and RD would have passed him..I like to watch the Ryan's out front as they always put on a good race as we have seen many times...
@Redneckrider - Shut your blowhole please. @BD25: RD5 rode very well tonight actually. It looked like he was ready to make a move. He's in good shape in the points this early in the season. RV is on another level right now... question is, can he hold that "machine" together for the entire season? Dungey was faster tonight than I've seen him all season. I'm sure Roger was pleased with that.
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Redneckrider everyone says that js7 takes out riders so why not say it obout reed js7 never took out that many guys at once anyway
Great job RV!!! You are the man. To do what you do in this field is amazing.
Great rides for Davi, Dungey and Canard.
Chad has had a bad attitude all season. I'd hate to be back in truck after tonight. Must be uncomfortable when he's in a bad mood. Which im sure he is.
Hope James and Justin are alright.
Should be a solid week for moto news!!!!
My bet is that this is the week James goes in for surgery. The season is done, so might as well get it out of the way. I'm not certain he's coming back this time.
Here's what I said the other night: "Is it just me, or does anyone else think that we're going to see a plethora of yard sales in and after the first turn this week? That looks like something I would want to either be way in front of, or way behind. We're to the point in the season where certain guys are going to HAVE to get a start. And only 2 or 3 are going to be able to. The rest are gonna need a rake, a shovel and a hefty bag. Good luck out there!" ... I'm going to stop commenting on yard sales.
porcupine, I suppose you are forgetting about Daytona a couple years ago when JS took out everyone but the flagman in the first turn. Just sayin,
JS has a takeout list longer than a sushi delivery. Reed has an 80% podium percentage. Prob not possible doing kamikaze attacks along the way, eh?
"I said last week that..." or "As you know, I have been predicting..."
Some folks write like they think they have a column here and people follow it.
No, you don't. And no, we don't.
@ER: JS7 hasn't "taken out" any more riders than anyone else. Just sayin'
And I'm busy now, so - in advance - "whatever". That is my answer to the next 5 dumb remarks.
Ask Lance Armstrong why RV is so fast!! LOL, what a joke!
motodog77 ---Dungey had another poor start and was 10ish going into whoops, came out of whoops about 15. Finished lap 1 in 9th? and then worked his way through.
This track was the worst of the year, so one lined that a C rider could have held off half the pack with a decent start.
RV was unreal, Dungey showed alot of heart.
It's funny cause it's true.
Tomacs crash was nasty, he was down for a while
I was suprised how well Alessi rode for Supercross.
Shorty was normal, doesn't matter if he has a factory ride or "prrivateer" on a Honda factory bike, he is still top 10 dude,
And Reedy pulled a stewie and crashed others.........
Malcolm stewart has got to be annoyed being announced as James stewarts lil bro. That has got to suck
HGH is a miracle worker.......how else can any of these athletes come back from ACL reconstruction in such a short time.
There is a reason pro sports have bucked it for so long.
No livestreams, K-Dub leaving, McBrooks/JDR out, Weimer DNS, Tomac/Barcia/Bubba crash/DNF, Reed and the pileup, WTF' week! Without Villo and Canard great results I will be dead!
And Kudos to Millsaps, he still deserve the red plate after four rounds, no doubt
Why didn't they just put a minefield at the end of the first whoop section ? Oh because they knew someone would whiskey throttle the whoops like a C rider. I think the track designers don't like close racing or the Oakland stadium sucks for a SX layout.
Reed took out Stewart on purpose? that is the dumbest thing I've read. You really think Reed would jeopardize himself, title sponsors and all the other riders who went down with him? how effin dumb is that? How about this, Reed got out of shape and crashed, unfortunately others were involved including Stewart. Too many novices comment and its revealing with their play by play.
Just my luck as soon as I start talking about how roczen should have races the east because it didn't look like he'd be able to get the title on the west with Tomac the series gets flipped around and roczen is sitting real nice for the title now SX is crazy sometimes
Makes you wonder if that could happen for milsaps if RV has another bad night down the road milsaps has been the most consistent only two incidents and one was beyond his control when his motor locked
The level of comp. is insane. I was looking right down from behind the start and RV just shot out like a cannon. I knew there was going to be a pile up. The starting area has to be addressed by the ones in charge though. 40-45 yard straight that went into a very tight left hand first turn follow by a set of rockers (This is where Tomac lost the championship tonight ) into a very tight banked right turn. This is where half the field was left on the ground. IMO they should have restarted the race. They have to design a more flowing start and first few turns. The race sucked after the pile up. It as a RV run away. I was glad to see RD get third. Looked good but he needs a better start. Happy for 800 to. Think he got forth.
Unless track safety is address the sport is going to keep hurting these guys. IMO.
JS got up hurt pitbull. They got slammed.
Lay off the dope.. if the level of competition were truly insane, there would be 8 guys battling for wins on lap20 like the old days. The level of competition is not so great so far, its very boring.
They all want the win so bad they can't make it 20 laps. And I don't use dope
Another boring non-race.. supercross has sucked for years. Is it the bikes, or the track?? I dont know but please make it fun to watch like the old days. I get tired of watching riders scrub bybthemselves and play follow the leader. I want to see a 4 way battle for a win on lap 15-20!! I want to see block passing, banging, takeouts, and riders bashing each other.
The last race I enjoyed was when Reed was battling RV, but then he got hurt sadly. Supercross has a problem, and fans will eventually see my side of it. My brother in law is a non SX fan, and he tried to watch and said it was as boring as NascAr.
Hey people that are saying that Reed took out JS7. It was Grant that started the whole thing. He does that a lot. You should get your facts strait before running your mouths.
@motobk
That is just JS7's BFF's trying to blame CR22 for their guy for punching out with injuries!
Grant was innocent on this one. It happens
Shame on feld and dirtwurx for building a track that was totally responsible for a horrible race!
That track was as queer as the day is long. Man.. why did I wait for that? Argh.. maybe next week we will see some action. I want to see Garcia bam bam RV, then I want Team Kawasaki to go to war with Honda
Tape shows clear that Reed was out of shape in the whoops Grant--- T- Boned him and used him {Reed} as a berm to get position ..... In turn Grant got caught up in the mess !!!! If he would of turned early he would of been top 5 !!! LOL SAME OLD SAME OLD .......Grant
Props to short but you have to admit that bike was not a big plus..Anyone could tell the difference on suspension!
When Stewart watches the race he will see that Reed got hit from behind and driven into Stewart.
people go on here and dont have a clue what happened a just make shit up someone said js got up rode around then quit and that he has no heart what really happened is his throttle broke
I just watched the race on CBS. Replayed the first wreck repeatedly. I like all the top riders and want to see them all racing. I can't find specific fault with any of the riders. Probably the biggest factor was that whoop section after the first turn. By the main it had a deep groove in the fast line. So a pack going through there was bound for trouble. Reed had to leave the groove and it kicked him sideways, which bounced him off Grant. At that point they both were just hanging on barreling into the corner. Stewart was just in the unluckiest place in the corner at that moment.
Anyone who thinks Reed or Grant had anything in mind different than the other eighteen riders is naive.
Thanks to a crappy one lined track, there was no drama, or good racing. When on lap 5 RV had a 7+ second lead against the fastest of the slow guys t it was over. All it was, was a points salvaging day at that point.
It's a bummer the powers that be came up with such a dangerous and one lined track.
Racerx where's the coverage?
Grant had control he just looked to use reed as a berm ala to get a jump into the top 5 ... I would use you to if I get an advantage its called life----///// MX ---///SX .
RACIN CHUMP
ALL OF the guys were runnin comparable times even short !!! Tell you SX equals Holeshot check out ..........Track was one line ... Just like F-1 BABY
Next track will be better first turn then wall them jump into whoops I hope they make some big one ...Racing is supposed to be a tuff sport not figure skating !!! LOL !!
http://www.supercrossonline.com/Tracks.aspx
It just wish they would do sand section A-HOLE DEEP !!
A sand section for HALF the track A-hole deep would be cool! They need to change it up, rhythm sections get boring, no passes in the air unless someone screws up. Keep the tires on the ground more..
They really should explore new options.. and obviously tame the bikes down. Reminds me of Golf, they have a golf ball now that they can hit 375 yards, now the courses aren't long enough and it changed the game
All anyone has to do is figure out how to make everyone get a good start, not fall down, and hit every obstacle perfectly for 20 laps straight. Orrrrr, make tracks that are more motocross tracks without all these dumb rhythm sections and flat turns. There was a time when SX races were the ultimate of gnarly jumps but now anyone wanting to see jumps can go watch freestyle where they now have to do backflips to make them exciting. The 1986 Anaheim race had all kinds of slow twisty sections with sand, small jumps and all kinds of places to pass.....and what happened? RJ and Bailey passed and passed and passed until RJ was pretty much exhausted. When was the last time we heard of a SX race being won because the winner wore out 2nd place? These tracks barely make the riders sweat. When you have guys in the top 10 who are more just trying to negotiate every obstacle, they can't really race. There are only 5 guys or so out there capable of actually racing on these tracks and it is still too risky to go bar to bar for 20 laps. That's why they will bide their time and settle for position.
i think reed would intentually take james out hes dont many of times go back watch some races, hes hated james and RC for that matter because hes always sucked when it came to matching there speed, i had a friend that said he liked reed i said why he said because hes always [paying 3rd fiddle to James and Ricky i feel sorry for him, that was funny. Hes dirty he dont belong in out there, im done this is shit, the format blows, one guy takes everyone out and james still has no heart whats the guy got to do break everybone in his body and cross the finish line then you tards would be oh he was a danger he should of been pulled off the track rv wins a few races is 3rd in the points and the ball tounging commence, the holeshots important doesnt mean its should determine the race when everyone else is on the ground. Outdoors is were its at, thats were it will always be at supercross is just where a bunch of overweight adults can go and get drunk, circus cross groupies can hold up there signs with there favorite riders names on it, dont worry about stewart or obama 4strokes and the mentallity of the people in the sport are going to kill it eventully, soon not only will the L and Mc and JWR and other teams pull out so will the Big 4 cost and salary will outweigh profit, then we start all over with privateers, true privateers not ones with simis and factory support.
@yamaha645
Sometimes it is better to stand there and look stupid rather than open your mouth and relieve all doubt.
@yamaha465--If you really want anyone to read your post further than the first line.. Learn to write somewhat correctly.. and try not to sound like a 12 year old child.. I quit after about 3 lines..
Anyone who can post on here that the racing is boring and dumb is not a true fan of the sport. Do you guys ride? I can sit and watch the technique of every rider over the same section with fascination. I've sat at red bud and watched a whole moto in the same spot in awe the whole time. If you ride then you should be amazed by the talent these guys have, these tracks are super technical and not easy.
Watching a rider ride, isn't racing. If that were the case, then we should just put exhibitions on so riders can showcase their technique..
RACING, its bar banging, go for it, technique doesn't matter, who can go the fastest and WIN. Racing is supposed to be exciting..
Lc4rc, just giving my opinion. Im sure there are people that think this year has been fantastic.. but, I challenge you once again to watch this and tell me it wasn't better.
Take my challenge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liPagc4hkC4
fast forward to 33min and ENJOY. Now you tell me that racing is better these days.. I will be amazed if you don't agree with me honestly. I don't know if its the tracks or the bikes, but I suspect BOTH.
This is what I saw, at least from the replay footage.
1) Reed looked like he was trying to avoid running into Milsaps and changed his line.
2) Reed knowing that everyone was going to run wide decided to change line and dive into the inside.
3) Reed got kicked (out of shape) to the right which caused him to run into Josh Grand and got sideways after that.
With that being said Josh Grant was caught up in the mess. Inital reports said that Josh got sideways and started the melee. Untrue.
Some say that Reed made an attempt to take out the field, which is also untrue.
I see it as one of those thing that happen when racing.
@Lime_Fish
Wth that being said, Does your wifes puntang taste like Fish OR Lime!!
For all you belly akin clowns the race is finnishing up on fuel It is also on tommorrow last round then this round from 6 am thru 8 am ..
Bo apitete !
reed went from far right to left almost pin balled off milsaps then went far right hit grant than reed looked like he might have been able to save it and from whatever the collision did to grant caused grant to just T-bone reed into stewart If you could post pictures I would I went through pausing taking screen shots of the whole incident because my friends were trying to say that initially stewart hit reed causing reed to get out of control but they were about 3 feet apart when reed went sideways
Race is over keyboard jockeies that why ypu are all a bunch of posers riding kater dicks that need to go back to video games . It's past your bedtime BONZO !!
@motobk I saw it the same way!Looked like Grant plowed Reed into everyone else!
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@Lime_Fish
"Wth that being said, Does your wifes puntang taste like Fish OR Lime!! "
F*&%off A55H0LE !!!!!