by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: MEC
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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PrintThe second-annual Monster Energy Cup from Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas provided plenty of idiosyncrasies—joker lane, split starts—that would only seem fitting in Vegas. The return of Chad Reed and Ryan Villopoto from season-ending (SX and MX) injuries also sparked plenty of hype, as did watching East and West Lites Champs Barcia and Tomac bang bars with the big names. Even the next next guys from the amateur ranks got their shot. Let’s get to the lap charts to see how things broke down.
MEC Open Class // Race 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:07.601 | 3 | 1:08.622 | Ryan Villopoto | |
| 2 | 1:08.113 | 5 | 1:09.427 | Justin Barcia | |
| 3 | 1:08.543 | 10 | 1:10.117 | Eli Tomac | |
| 4 | 1:08.591 | 5 | 1:10.295 | Ryan Dungey | |
| 5 | 1:09.059 | 2 | 1:10.982 | Josh Grant | |
| 6 | 1:09.068 | 3 | 1:10.211 | Chad Reed | |
| 7 | 1:09.258 | 3 | 1:10.852 | Mike Alessi | |
| 8 |
1:09.468 | 10 | 1:10.117 | Jake Weimer | |
| 9 | 1:09.557 | 5 | 1:11.261 | Kyle Cunningham | |
| 10 | 1:09.822 | 5 | 1:11.717 | Jake Canada |
MEC Open Class // Race 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:08.302 | 5 | 1:09.781 | Justin Barcia | |
| 2 | 1:08.431 | 2 | 1:10.478 | Ryan Dungey | |
| 3 | 1:08.771 | 3 | 1:10.816 | Mike Alessi | |
| 4 | 1:08.780 | 5 | 1:10.431 | Jake Weimer | |
| 5 | 1:08.795 | 5 | 1:10.826 | Eli Tomac | |
| 6 | 1:08.869 | 7 | 1:11.643 | Chad Reed | |
| 7 | 1:09.700 | 4 | 1:11.239 | Josh Grant | |
| 8 |
1:10.233 | 8 | 1:11.925 | Kyle Cunningham | |
| 9 | 1:10.319 | 5 | 1:12.647 | Christian Craig | |
| 10 | 1:10.330 | 8 | 1:11.063 | Ryan Villopoto |
MEC Open Class // Race 3
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:08.338 | 7 | 1:09.367 | Eli Tomac | |
| 2 | 1:08.653 | 5 | 1:09.632 | Justin Barcia | |
| 3 | 1:08.790 | 3 | 1:09.887 | Ryan Dungey | |
| 4 | 1:09.424 | 5 | 1:10.725 | Chad Reed | |
| 5 | 1:10.020 | 5 | 1:11.683 | Christian Craig | |
| 6 | 1:10.193 | 6 | 1:11.349 | Jake Weimer | |
| 7 | 1:10.385 | 3 | 1:11.537 | Josh Grant | |
| 8 |
1:10.422 | 6 | 1:12.884 | Kyle Chisholm | |
| 9 | 1:10.722 | 8 | 1:11.848 | Kyle Cunningham | |
| 10 | 1:10.875 | 5 | 1:12.338 | Jake Canada |
It didn’t take long for Ryan Villopoto to find his form after missing all of the Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championships due to a torn ACL. The two-time defending Monster Energy Supercross champion sprinted to an early lead in the first main, one that he would not relinquish, en route to setting the fastest lap of the night with a 1:07.601. RV was using this race to gauge where he stood entering 2013, and if the first main was any indication, he should be just fine come A1.
Villopoto’s Monster Energy Kawasaki teammate Jake Weimer had a terrible night on the results page—12-18-10 for thirteenth overall—largely due to crashes in the first two mains and then stalling his bike in joker lane in the third. Although his night didn’t go according to plan, Weimer showed his speed was right there. He finished inside the top ten in all three mains (lap times) and laid down the fourth fastest lap in the second main.
According to the lap charts, the joker lane increased the riders’ lap times by about five seconds. The strategy of when, and when not to, take the joker lane proved vital. Eli Tomac took it early in the third main and was able to take advantage of Barcia and Dungey using it late to capture the moto win.
Barcia and Tomac showed the future is bright for Honda in the Supercross/450 Class. In his Honda Muscle Milk SX debut, Barcia showed an aggressive style that seemed to shake the cages of a number of riders en route to the overall. Barcia set the second fastest lap of the night with a 1:08.113 in the first main.
After struggling through the first two mains due to a hard crash in practice, Eli Tomac got his game back for the third main. Now everyone is raving about what the future holds for the humble Colorado native. Tomac’s 1:08.338 in the third main marked the fourth fastest lap of the night.
Chad Reed said it best to our own Steve Matthes after the race: “We got thirty laps in and some flashes of brilliance and some not-so-flashes of brilliance.” Reed clearly wasn’t at 100 percent, which should alarm the rest of the field heading into A1 as Reed still managed to finish fourth overall, and laid down the fourth fastest lap in the third main. In Reed's typical fashion, his all-out sprint speed on one particular lap doesn't stand out here, but his overall consistency does. His steady times in the second main pulled him within striking distance of the leaders, and Reed had already taken the joker lane, while they had not. Had Chad not washed his front wheel and fallen down, he might have won the race.
Just how remarkable was Ryan Dungey’s performance in the first two main events as he dealt with shifter problems? Well, Dungey was still able to finish third and second, respectively, and set the fourth and second fastest lap times of those races while stuck in gear!
It is always interesting to see how the next batch of future stars compare to the pros according to lap times. Shane McElrath, Adam Cianciarulo and overall winner Cooper Webb were all able to dip into the 1:10 range, which would have placed them inside the top ten in the third main and just outside the top ten in the second. The future of supercross surly looks as bright as ever.
RV set the fastest lap of the night in the first main.
Simon Cudby photo
MEC SuperMini // Race 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:18.056 | 6 | 1:18.965 | Mark Worth | |
| 2 |
1:18.522 | 5 | 1:19.074 | Austin Forkner | |
| 3 | 1:18.598 | 5 | 1:19.279 | Tristian Miller |
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| 4 |
1:18.725 | 4 | 1:19.958 | Chase Sexton | |
| 5 | 1:19.031 | 6 | 1:20.688 | Joey Crown |
MEC SuperMini // Race 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:18.418 | 4 | 1:20.623 | Austin Forkner | |
| 2 |
1:18.547 | 6 | 1:20.644 | Joey Crown | |
| 3 | 1:18.943 | 4 | 1:24.417 | Mark Worth | |
| 4 |
1:18.973 | 4 | 1:21.838 | Challen Tennant | |
| 5 | 1:19.886 | 5 | 1:21.894 | Chase Sexton |
Shane McElrath set the fastest lap of the night for the amateurs.
Simon Cudby photo
MEC Amateur All-Stars // Race 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:10.599 | 2 | 1:11.584 | Shane McElrath | |
| 2 |
1:10.672 | 4 | 1:13.475 | Adam Cianciarulo | |
| 3 | 1:10.813 | 3 | 1:12.058 | Cooper Webb | |
| 4 |
1:11.625 | 3 | 1:12.829 | Jordon Smith | |
| 5 | 1:11.843 | 5 | 1:13.314 | Nick Gaines |
MEC Amateur All-Stars // Race 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1:11.495 | 2 | 1:12.351 | Adam Cianciarulo | |
| 2 |
1:12.071 | 6 | 1:13.903 | Jordon Smith | |
| 3 | 1:12.195 | 4 | 1:13.067 | Cooper Webb | |
| 4 |
1:12.555 | 5 | 1:13.479 | Daniel Baker | |
| 5 | 1:12.804 | 4 | 1:13.555 | Paul Coates |
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bam bam better not let his head get too big. He will be getting smoked this year. I was glad to see alessi ready to put him to the deck. I hate bam bam, good thing he wont be dominating anything this year. Reed, Poto, dunge, and Trey will have him covered all year barring injuries
^^^^ WAAA WAAA WAAA. I hate'm, I hate'm, I hate'm ^^^^ AHAHA.. Yeah they sure smoked him last weekend
C'mon. Alessi could have punted him in turn which would have perfectly acceptable and expected, but instead he laid on the brakes, turned inside, and let him get away. I think what RV and others were talking about with Barcia was his penchant for crossing over on people over jumps and at the end of whoop sections. That will be short sighted on his part.
The thing about Barcia is he gets great starts. It will be hard for guys to complain when he consistently starts in front of them. But Barcia also got more frustrated with lappers than almost anyone I've ever seen. He is the one who will have to be mentally strong and I havent seen that yet. I do think he has as much a shot at the title as any rookie who has moved up. He's pretty slick on a SX track.
@organDoner i don't think "not so speedy reedy" will be covering anyone.
Ryan Dungey didn't have problems in the third race and still lost.
Bam Bam has those two covered and everyone knows it.
He won't win a championship but he will be mixing it up.
Not that it matters but I find it interesting. RV vrs JB lap times for the single fastest lap is RV by .512. But the average for the race is RV by .805
Congrats JB.
Amateurs from the B class running top 10 Pro lap times of the best in the "WORLD". What a bunch of "B-S". This is a perfect example of the sandbagging going on in the Amateur Nationals. Why doesn't the promoters of Amateur National events move the riders up when they should. It would also benefit the promoters by having more amateurs feel they have a chance to compete in their correct class and encourage them to go nationals. Sandbagging runs downhill all the way to the local races, because of the Amatuer National events. Why are most of B riders faster than the A riders at Loretta's almost every year??????????
Looking at the clock, Villopoto still is the fastest unless we factor in Dungey / KTM's "shift-gate". Could Dungey have made that 1 second gap (or more) with a properly shifting bike? Certainly seems possible................but he went slower in the 3rd heat with a properly shifting bike??????
We certainly don't know all there is to know with that situation.
Looking at the clock, Villopoto still is the fastest unless we factor in Dungey / KTM's "shift-gate". Could Dungey have made that 1 second gap (or more) with a properly shifting bike? Certainly seems possible................but he went slower in the 3rd heat with a properly shifting bike??????
We certainly don't know all there is to know with that situation.
The Firecracker did not lose any of his explosiveness while recovering from his knee injury.. Ryan still has that little extra pop that makes him special...The next four or five guys will be right there waiting for any slip up from the champ. Reed, Barcia, Dungey, Stewart, Canard and hopefully Tomac are all going to have their nights as well, which will make for a very entertaining season!!
Baring getting hurt or the bike breakin RV should be a 3 time SX champ come April.
Don't take that the wrong way, i believe it will be a WAR all year, I just believe RV is the fastest so if things play out how they look on paper he looks good. There will be a lot of winners this year most of all US if they all stay healthy. I would love for RV to win the title and have the guy who gets 6th be only 10 points behind RV!! That would be sick!!
man its gonna get old hearing some of you pu$$ies come on here every weekend crying about how much you hate barcia. get the fuk over it or go kill yourself ! yeah he looks like shaggy from scooby doo and he talks like he grew up on the opposite coast that he did but who gives a rats ass he is an awesome compettitor you guys are just sour that he just put your boy whichever one it is a place or 2 down every week
OrganDonor: you are the dumbest person I know. Just because you hate him you think he sucks? We'll look again of who won and had the second fastest time of the night. People like you are hurting this sport and all the other haters out there. If you don't like them who cares dont need to sit behind a keyboard and talk crap to someone else living your dream man. I admire all of them out there because THEY all are living my dream that I wish I can continue racing. Yes some riders I dislike but I dont sit here and talk crap about them, I still look up to everyone out there on the track to "give "us" fans a go!" With that said, I can't wait for A1;)
@OrganDoner
You should stop follow supercross and going watching soccer, the Bam Bam era began, and the next sx king is here for a long time,
Go Magoo O' Barcia !!!
Villo, Barcia, Tomac, the dream team, American MX the best!
this year will favor good starters you will have a hard time coming through this pack and barcia is a great starter
Anybody else notice how much cianicurillo got the coverage from the announcers like he had that race won hands down.would have liked to seen Mcelrath stay up and dust his ass that second moto.not hating on the kid,but theres alot of fast ass amatuers coming up,not just one
Ha Ha Ha. You bunch of keyboard racers seriously think cry baby bam bam will dethrone Villopoto??? what kind of glue are you guys sniffing??? lets talk about injuries. Could bam bam come back from an injury like poto did? twice? probably not. JB is a whiney lil' punk with bike skills. watch his antics at bercy and you'll know what i'm talking about.
as for poto's bike being a "heavy turd"... highly doubtful. the honda would weigh less without that twin pipe BS
You all are forgetting that Blake baggett and eli tomac are moving up next year, dont forget about deano. there wont be a barcia era
He is back, back, back again! The retard that is going to continue talking crap about racers!!!! hahaha how much $$ you make sitting behind a keyboard talking crap about a racer that, who makes a lot more money than you >?
@carlsbad
Dungey's bike worked fine in the thrid moto. Where you his fast times then?
Where were* his lap times then? Typo up above
OrganDoner
What we are seeing is the future of American MX.
BTW ..what is a Doner ?
JimM
Pala374
OrganDoner Actually The Kawi is still heavier that the CRF 450.. Stock of course.. The Kawi always been heavy.
"You all are forgetting that Blake baggett and eli tomac are moving up next year, dont forget about deano. there wont be a barcia era"
I hope he proves me wrong but I don't see Deano being a factor, not on that team. Bagget maybe he'll have a few good rides in outdoors for 2014 but thats a big maybe.. Tomac I think will be pretty damn good. I'd bet that if Canard " Praise Jebus" doesn't do well this year that ride will be Tomac's in 2014
Hmmmmmmmmmm is that why the Honda finished LAST in RacerX's 450 shoot out Misoheye??
"Dungey's bike worked fine in the thrid moto. Where you his fast times then?"
For those of you that might not understand motorcycle transmissions....Dungey's shifter shaft was bent when he hit that tuffblock in the first heat. That is also why his shifter malfunctioned in the second heat. By the thrid round his crew had made adjustments to get the bike to shift...but it was hardly perfect. For Dungey to get on the podium with a broken transmission ( which requires the engine to be dismantled for repair, not likely to happen trackside at the MEC ) is nothing short of a miracle.
Look out for Ryan at A1...
Cooper Webb only 2 seconds off the best of the best on a smaller bike, take it to them young man!! AC is a great rider but so over publicized it makes me ill, go get them Cooper, I watched you tear up crystal coast and half moon on more than one occasion. It is your time to shine, you are the great under rated one.
ok ok ok..... i can't let this go....
"I hate Bam Bam"
So then you talk massive sh!t about all the others too? Sounds like your jealous to me. Small Peenus maybe? And What exactly would you be donating? You obviously have no brain.... no balls.... no heart..... nothing useful other than that manure spewing hole you call a mouth....or maybe thats your @ss.... hard to tell.... they both smell and look alike.
almost as scientific as the crap you were spuing
Random interjection..........Anyone notice how friggin hard Dungey can hit hardpack flat corners on the inside? A few times at MEC he railed the flat insides ridiculously hard. And is it just me or does he seem to come up short on the little triples right out of corners more often than other front runners? I'm not just referring to this past weekend either. I feel like I've noticed this over last year's SX season, maybe I'm high. Any possibility his 450 might be a little shy on HP compared to the other factory 450's?
@misoheye - You're an idiot. It's Kawasucki and Poozuki.
Dungey better hope Reed and Stewart don't make full comebacks this year, or he's gonna have a lot of time to think while he's circling in 5th place every week. Great performance at the MEC, though - he toughed it out when things went wrong and probably would've had the overall if they hadn't.
Barcia will be great. I believed it before the Cup and I KNOW it after. His aggression that second moto was insane.
Retardcross RD has always been one of the best ever on flat corners, I think he was even better on the Suzuki. I have said that in the past. There was a nat a few years back where he was somehow comming across to the inside on a flat corner that was sick.
Why does everyone get caught up with lap times? You telling me you can tell the whole season because the first moto RV had a faster lap time? LOL Hey why race? Lets just turn to Gheycar toilet bowl racing.....
Stewie had faster times than everyone including RV, but when you have one fast lap and one on your head... it don't matter.... rookies.
while Rv is certainly the favorite for the title, to write barcia of as a non-factor is just stupid he will be there every week just like dungey, reed, and stewart till he crashes out I agree about wilson he's never really been that great at SX the only reason he almost got the title was because tomac got hurt wilson however will be good outdoors just like bagget but tomac and barcia what is impressive is they are gonna hit the ground running in the 450 class where as guys like broc tickle has yet to get a win
@retardcross
I noticed that long time ago. I think dunge does it on purpose so he could be the first one to the ground to gain traction. Looks like he misses the perfect spot sometimes. should be no issues with power on that bike, since ktm and kawasaki have the strongest engines in stock form. Dunge rides factory bike
@pitbull
Worm inspector! Lol
@retardcross
I read an article a while back by Shorty where he talked about some of the pros coming up just shy of triples like that to shed a little more speed, actually now that I think about it, it was in one of Short's instructional videos, maybe back in '09
@OrganDoner you better watch out for that little queer @Realmofo.He might spank you for hating Barcia.I bet Realmofo still has his little queer nut duster that he grew because Barcia had one..It looks like Barcia shaved his.I bet Realmofo keeps his.
it's funny to see that the people who talk shit about Barcia are the same who talk shit about the U.S ... jealousy is an ugly default ...
Watch Out!!! Magoo O'Barcia is on 450 now!
all supercross class titles will be for Villo, Barcia & Tomac untill 2020!!! I'm a lucky supercross fan!
Villo, Barcia, Tomac, the dream team, American MX the best!
and all Barcia haters are also Roczen's fanatics, sure they can be frustrated now the facts bring them to reality
Short jumping is an advanced technique, it is usually done when there is a turn immediately after the landing. Allowing the rear wheel to come up a tad short on the landing will help scrub off speed. Correct body position is required to avoid a kick, that can cause the rider to be thrown forward....
@ BillC, without putting you down, most of us know you have a hard-on for Kawasaki and an aversion to Honda. Fine, we get it.
I have to go with Misoheye on this one though (and not just 'cause it was hilarious).
RXI has been tesing (sampling) bikes all of what? Two years now? They are now an authority in the field???? That's the shortest apprenticeship I've ever heard of.
I think all you guys need to go riding. GO RV !!!!!
and the fastest keyboard racer is??? Cant say,, too many nutriders on here
JB did not light up the lites class like RC, JS, CR, RV, RD and is in his rookie year for the pro class. He will show glimpes of brilliance but will finish 4th or 5th for the season, just ahead of JS (JS will do 5 round, crash & sit out the next 6 rounds, then do the remaining rounds). Experience will win the '13 championship and will be fought out by RV, CR & RD.
Motod6, why do you say Deano won't be a factor on that team? Isn't JeffWardRacing a great team???
ANd JEFF Ward is a LEGEND in racing, doesn't that make a big difference to have him as manager???
I'm curious as hell thinking you know something nobody else knows!!
JUstin B kicked ass, i didn't expect it!! DOn't know if he will be the same beast in A1!
I LOVE WHAT tgq25 HAD TO SAY!!!!!!!!
@organ looks like your in for a long season....Bamcia is just gettin started....I also don't see how he could have ridden much cleaner or better...Dungey will be fine , everything breaks or can be broken....and he STILL rode the wheels of it and the in the air hand shift attemp was serious balls power.....RV may have lost the battle but he looked fast as fu*k moto 1 and it will be war come Jan. I hope the racing is as good as the other night and most likely will be better...keep the joker (and keep it untimed and loose)....think it adds to the show and offers more strategy's...all these guys baggin on Canard,,,,we will see...he can haul. As for shoot-outs ..there are good and bad tests ...just like there are good and bad riders or mechanics....we ALL know the final choice a personal thing ...its just guys giving their opinions,,,i've never seen any magazine testing diplomas...you still buy what you like or can afford...I have personally never bought a bike because of test results...its sells mags and influences those with no real idea of what they want or no real experience and at best gives a glimpse into what hopefully fast guys think about the 'possibilitys' of a new stock bike....
RV was "Bubba-fast" the first moto.
Then did the "Bubba-crash-pullout-thing".
Too fast?
Would like to see ET move up to big bikes NOW!
I really hope 2013 SX is going to be awesome!
BUT...one or two will hurt themself before A1 and championship will be decided by "last man standing".
I´ll say... Reed!
TIM moto team, are you serious! it will not be possible for any of those racers to dominate for that long!! NOT POSSIBLE! THE young guys coming up are TOO GOOD!!!
THE Young racers are already at the same lap times!
another guy on here mentioned SANDBAGING! Kepping the young racers away from the pro class i guess.. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? SANDBAGING???
EVERYBODY-including BillC-knows Dungeys was the fastest guy Saturday until his shifter got bent (See qualifying). Emig said he had everybody covered from the start.
This year's winner, barring injury or bike failure, will be the most mentally tough guy who is smart enough to swallow his pride and finish 3rd or 4th on nights when he is off instead of CRASHING while riding over his head. This year the top 5 or 6 will be only 10ths and 100ths of seconds apart in speed. My bet is on Dungey then Reed. They were the only top guys who seemed to realize THIS RACE DOES NOT COUNT TOWARD THE 2013 CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!
For the guy complaining about the B class running faster times than some of the pro's and calling them sandbaggers...
First of all it was a combination of A and B riders from Loretta's, not just the B class.
Second, many of those riders are under the age of 16 and not legal for the pro class yet.
Trust me, they want to be in the pro class and will be in the next year or two.
RCRDDW
first off you don't have to be riding over your head to crash! Or was Dungey riding over his head when he crashed in practice?
secondly.....if RD had of won the first moto, he would've been the only in the running for a million....do you really think that wouldn't have added any more pressure or incentive to ride hard? also, shifting gears by hand over a triple jump indicates he was trying pretty hard to win.
most importantly.....I know you were taking a shot at RV for riding over his head.....he is the captain of the Monster Energy Flagship in MX.....he can't just treat this race as a one off spectacle......he has to win it. Do you think Monster wants another energy drink taking their race?
just my thoughts.....but all I ever hear is how Dungey never crashes and is so consistent?? he crashes just like eveyone else....he's just been fortunate not to get injured very often.
This just in, RD will be the 2013 SX champ because he won Practice at the MEC!!!
.Thanks
RCRDDW now I don't have to watch!!
I am a big fan of barcia and i think he'll do fine. C'ship? Maybe. Top three probably.
Ask RV how his rookie SX season went. I can still feel the thud from him hitting the dirt atSt. Louis.
Ask RC how his rookie SX season went. Crashes to numerous to mention.
Ask JS how his rookie SX went...broken arm practice. Second round.
So we have CR Who in 03 (technically his rookie season) lose the C'Ship by 6 points to RC.
Dungey WON it all but those detractors will say no one was there to beat - guess what they beat themselves.
Then we have MC - we all know what that developed into...
So we have a 50-50 chance of this thing going well or ending in tears - notrocket science.
The real question is why do we pronounce Garcia -Garr-see-ah but Barcia Bar-sha??
Not a good pronounciation to have growing up in NY State I bet...
Rcrddw, was CR riding over his head ? was KW? was RD ? you must be the ONLY one that thinks RD was fastest at mec because he wasn't, as usual he was very good and looked like he wanted to win as bad as RV did. when he had no problems he got beat by ET and JB. We all know RD will be a player and I feel he will be near the top. I was suprised RD wasn't faster in the third race, he was really looking good the first two.
I thought the track was great - better than last year. LOVED the joker lane and the split start- these added great variety and stratigy.
I watched the slow mo of RV's get off and it looked to me he had bad headshake and lost his left hand. Is this the wrist he had those surguries on ? He was nothing but pissed that he was told he couldn't race, he was in fine racing form and we all got robbed from seeing if RD could hang with him the second moto.
Was bummed CR washed his front end the second race, but really he did great for how long and serious his inguries were.
Was amazed at the mini's- every race was a great race- I say it was a great event and am VERY suprised it wasn't sold out.
One general gripe about Vegas, of all the SX venues it is the smallest and the least nice with lousy conveinaces. Shouldn't it be that biggest and nicest ?
Husky wrote: "JB did not light up the lites class like RC, JS, CR, RV, RD and is in his rookie year for the pro class."
Dungey lit up nothing on the 250. His outdoor title was a gift. I'm not sure in what fashion he got his SX title, but I know it wasn't with the dominance that Barcia got BOTH of his.
davidl I am guessing RD would not have hung with RV, Why?? because RV left Barcia in the dust by over 10sec in moto 1 and Barcia beat RD in moto 3. But true like you said we got robbed cuz RV crashed and RD had bike problems.
I have nothing against Dungey but obviously the shifter problem was not as big an issue as everyone made it out to be. In moto 3 where his shifter was not bent his best lap was 2 tenths slower than with the bent shifter in moto 1. His average lap time was only 4 tenths better in moto 3 than moto 1. These 450s have such a broad power band you don't really need many gears. He just had to rev it a little more than he would've liked, but the power doesn't fall off much.
@Fred, I am glad you sit around worrying about me and what I will do.. Because I could not really give a sh@t what you do or what you are doing.. You are still an idiot tool. And you must have no life if you sit and worry about me.. LOL!! I love it..
And go RV1, win that 3rd title!!!!!!!
Barcia will be tough, and Fred the Tool will hate life....
Good job Barcia, no one likes you OrganDoner, delete his comments Weege
canadianmxfan
I know the Amatuer All Stars is suppose to be the top 10 from A & B class results from Loretta's this year, so you help me prove my point. Below is their results at MEC and the class each rider rode at LL this year.
1st Webb - B class
2nd Cianciarulo - Super Mini / MEC 1st B class National event
3rd Coates - B class
4th Mcelrath - B class
5th Kiesel - B class
6th Gaines - B class
7th Rodriguez - B class
8th Smith - B class
9th Oldenburg - A class
10th Baker - B class
I could only find the top (10) results online, but as you can see the Top A class rider from LL this year got smoked by a lot B's. If these B riders are fast enough to beat A riders, why are they staying in the B class? No wonder the C class riders stay in the lower class as long as they can. Moving up and to be able to win B, they would need the speed of a PRO.
Forgot something. Most of these B riders are all over 16 years old.
BD25
Not that I would know but to short those jumps you gotta with a capital got stay on the throttle to stop the shock from pogoing
wasn't dungey a B racer before he went pro? are the B racers a faster class than the a class? what makes a 'B'racer become a "A' class racer?
Most of you guys are making way to big assumptions on a pre-season race.
I think Dungeys way of riding is the best overall and for the long run.
Decoster really thinks so that says alot right there
Your never as fast as when you were slow.
Great article in an old s/x m/x mag. Check it out.