Insight: Christophe Pourcel
Monday, October 15, 2012 | 2:35 PM
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PrintWhat's next for Christophe Pourcel? We've learned he has moved on from Kawasakis and is now riding a KTM 350 SX-F at the Bercy Supercross in November. French correspondent by Daryl Ramadier-Briet (www.LeBigUSA.com) talked to CP about his plans for the future and translated the interview for us. And apparently, Christophe's plans don't involve racing the GPs again.
LeBigUSA.com: How was your "Charity Day" in Frontignan? (Christophe is the organizer of several "charity days" in France. All the profits are going to sick children)
Christophe Pourcel: Very good. There is a good feeling here in Frontignan. The track was well prepared with a lot of effort coming from the volunteers. The soil is good and jumps, whether tables or double, are not dangerous. It is a good track for both amateurs and more experienced riders. It's nice to meet and chat with the french fans. We share a good time together.
How do you feel about your new bike?
I have not ridden a lot with the KTM but the bike fits me well for now. The torque is really good and 350cc is a good compromise for me. We still have more testing to do by the end of the year. We'll see how it goes at Bercy.
What is your program by the end of the year?
I have two other "Charity Day" planned: one in Lacapelle-Marival (Sunday) and the other in Châteauneuf-les-Martigues (October 28). I think a lot of people will be coming. I then ride at Paris-Bercy SX on November 9-11th. I have no particular goal for that event. I'll do my best to ride up front with the best but all I want to is to please the french fans. After Bercy, I'll go back to Florida. We also have to do suspensions testing with my KTM.
And for the 2013 season?
I didn't decide anything yet but I already refused several offers. If it don't get a bike to win it's completely useless. My contract is done with Kawasaki. I now have the support of KTM France. That being said, I have nothing specific on hand signed for now but I want to focus on the Bercy Supercross. We'll see. One thing is certain: I do not want to return to the World Championship GP.
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I don't think this guy should put himself in a positions to be turning down deals because of what happened last time... I see the same thing happening all over again. He wants millions when he's only worth thousands :(
Love him or hate him, the guy is talented and would be a great addition to any series. If you know what he's been through, you might think that he has reason to choose not to race unless it's really worth the risk.
Isn't "POOR-Cel" getting really old? Hate him all you want. He doesn't care and Is one of the most talented riders ever to throw a leg over a bike.
The guy will be back on a PC machine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come 2013 A-1
So, if he doesn't want to do the GP's, and has no ride here (so far), what would be left? The Austrailian series, I'm thinkin' would be the only way to make good cash. What else am I missing? Maybe a different form of racing?
I'm not a big fan of his, but he's got some talent. On a PC bike, he could do some damage. He has been through some tough times and the French have never had it easy over here. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt if he returns to the AMA series.
I think CP would be a great fit with KTM here in the US on that 350! It would give them a good rider for the 350 develepment here in th US.
Not an expert on the GP scene, but from what I have heard, it is in turmoil from mismanagement, that may be why he wants to leave Europe. CP almost lost his life racing, the fact that he recovered and still races is amazing in it self. It probably gives him a different perspective than any of us can image. Can he get a ride over here with so few to go around? Would Mitch help his old friend? Would Decoster and KTM take a chance on him? We know he has the speed and talent to run up front, but does he have the strong internal desire to do what it takes to win? Only Pourcel knows for sure. Personally, I would welcome him back to racing, his style is butter smooth and the more talent the better the series!!!
I think it is his best chance at getting a ride in the U.S. I assume KTM wants to promote the 350 still (post MXdN being a great time with them still on everybodies minds) and C.P. signing up for guinea-pig duty would allow him the foot in the door and opportunity for growth beyond that job description if speed / results so dictate.
b787tech is an absolute DOUCHE BAG. Show some damn respect for a guy who almost died yet has enough courage to keep racing. The kid has been to hell and back and I think he has more than proven himself. Please almighty god of motocross please tell us how you would dominate the world and take every low paying offer that came your way after overcoming a severe spinal injury! The disrespect to others cultures is absolutely disgusting as well and is why the rest of the world thinks we are a bunch of idiots. I'm as American as the next but a little respect for others countries would be refreshing. Just enjoy watching the talent of these guys and frankly don't give a damn where they come from, they put on a good show and they have amazing bike skills that is what the professional level is about. Kid deserves what he wants would any of you take a lower paying job when you value yourself differently?
A little humility would do him well. He needs to sleep in his car and eat out of a trash can for a few months, then come to the states and ride with a new appreciation for his skill and the people who help him.
I heard he may be going to H&H
Can't blame him for ditching the GP series. That thing is one big fat con job.
I don't like him or Stewart for that matter, but I respect their talent and love to watch them ride.
Pourcel has more than earned the choice to turn down a contract if he so desires.
He decided he will only race on a bike that has a chance of winning, whats wrong with that?
He doesn't want to ride on 2nd rate equipment...I don't blame him.
Corndog--humility? seriously? He is putting on chairty ride days and only plan for Bercy is to put on a good show for his French fans.
What does sleepiong in a car and eating out of a trash can have to do with it.
Someone will take a chance on him here in the states, but it will be a very frustrating experience for whoever does. Clearly he hated the GP's and it showed in his results (way to live up to the contract). If he was a football player his name would be Randy Moss. All the talent in the world with the heart of a flea.
Hopefully it will all work out for see CP. I would like to see him back here racing, he has a lot of talent, no sure if really has the drive anymore.
N4S - As an extreme example, I'm pretty sure Jeffrey Dahmer did something nice at one point, but that nice thing didn't exactly define him, did it?
Giuseppe LUONG President = thief and a crook
Not a fan of Chris. He doesn't understand that what you do off the track, and specifically how you say what you do off the track, is just as important as your results.
Honesty has no place in professional sports. You are there to iconically represent the ethos of your sponsors. If you just want to go fast and win races, marry someone rich enough to support your dreams.
Order of importance:
- Don't ever say anything bad about anyone that does not ride a dirt bike professionally.
- Say very positive things about everyone, especially your sponsors.
- Ride very fast, and show lots of personality while you do it (be a hero)
- if you can, win championships
It is helpful if you are good looking enough to be featured in advertizements without a helmet.
Corndog,
Why should a top Athlete take 2nd rate pay? Because he's French? Stewart, Alessi, Reed(until recently), have never been Humble. have you seen them give ride days, Reed only started his own team because no one would hire him.
Dog on Pourcel all you want, he expects to win, just like all top guys, but Since he is a "foreigner" and said he expects to win and excepts nothing less than he is a bad guy?
With the injuries that he has had and not being comfortable on a bike to go the pace to win, why whould he ride on something he considers junk suspension? And how many blame the Yamaha for Stewarts problems. And this year in the GP's he did something no one else did this year. Beat AC222 more than once.
As far as your very poor analogy. Isn't what you were trying to say is Pourcel needs to change and show some Humility, so while he is having chairty ride days and toning down his expectations, you try to compare his current actions(which show Humility) to Dahmer?????
You are inferring waaaaaaay too much from my posts and are inserting your own agenda into this chat. I never suggested he should take 2nd rate pay. I never suggested my position had anything to do with being French. I never suggested he is a bad guy. I never indicated he should ride anything with junk suspension.
As for humility and my "poor" analogy, you should have been able to recognize the parallel, but I'll spell it out.....doing something nice does not make everything you do...nice. In case that was confusing, I'll say it another way...just because you helped an old lady across the street on Sunday, doesn't mean you're nice a nice person for it when you punched old lady's Monday through Saturday. That's such a politician's line of thought, act like a jerk for a decade and then get all uppity when someone calls you on it when you're in the middle of doing something nice. That's not exactly three dimensional thinking, my friend.
Now, you have me confused, I'm actually a CP377 fan. However, I'm not so ignorant that I ignore everything negative he's done because I'm a blind follower.
Well, at least he is consistent, in his inconsistency. If someone was to read between the lines, you might read a story about a guy who wants nothing more than to race back in the states, but is reluctant to admit it, to himself and the country he moved away from, not so long ago...
But, that is purely speculation on my part, so it really has no bearing whatsoever on Chris' actual thought process inside that enigmatic helmut...
"As The Word Wobbles"
To be continued...
Pourcel deserves a good ride. The total lack of respect by some fans ( if you want to call them that) is egregious. I wouldn't be surprised if these are the same fans that booed him during his 250 national champion days. He earned the respect of Canard and Dungey, battling both of them for the 250 national championship. So how can you say he doesn't deserve a good ride? Would you ride a bike that you felt was unsafe at the rate of speeds he achieves? Doubtful. To top it off he returned the majority of the money back. Yeah...this guys sounds like a total a**hole...
He seemed to have a little break down for last 2 years. Hopefully, he gets his stuff together and performs to his potential. Still can't forget his 2010 ride @unadilla... After taking a huge dirt sample, right in front of us, with his bike parts flying through the air (same spot as weimer this year) he still tried to remount but his bike was too bent up. Then in moto 2, he started around 10th and canard was upfront pulling away. Cp rode that track like a mad man. By the end he caught turbo trey (who had huge gap on him), and after sick battle passed him! If pourcel brings himself here and not" Poorcel" thats been around last 2 years, i'll be pumped to see him race our series
meankx - That's a great example of the 'good' Pourcel and I think his hungry 250 days isn't where he's at right now. That season which ultimately ended with a broken collarbone really made me a fan of the guy, he just hasn't shown that level of intensity since then, imo.
SO, recently crippled dude (who STILL can't rehydrate or eat between motos) comes here for two years. Wins two SX titles and is fastest guy outdoors over those two years. We can "if" and "but" about that, but we all know it's true. Won more outdoor overalls EACH of those two years than Barcia has his whole career. And he sucks?
Sounds more like fear to me.
PS Whatever he decides on, it would be great to see him work hard towards his goals, and succeed at it! That would be a good thing, in my opinion.
Nuff said!
He has 2 rides here already. HnH which scouted him a couple years ago but my bet he will choose, think about it guys new Factory KTM supported team with a couple guys who are maybe top 10 on a good day in supercross and top 8 outdoors on a GOOD DAY!!!
You think Roger supported them to run around 12-15 place???? BTO has always been a 3 rider squad.....just my 2 cents
Didn't the AMA cheat CP out of a title not so long ago? Remember when the gates fell and his one was faulty? I personally feel he was cheated out of a title here big time with that occurrence.
CP377 is a huge talent but he must be a head case. It seems that the only team that can put up with him is Mitch at PC. Wasn't the team that he rode for in the GP's his dad's team?
Good post @elsinore.
Factories pay for results, they don't care about humility, personality, or anything else. Pourcel is a huge threat to win anywhere he goes and EVERY pro rider knows that. I would love to see him as Dungeys teammate.
Unfortunately people's memories are short and they only remember the bad. CP was faster on a 250 than any 450 rider much like Baggett.
I'll put some money on him if he returns.. Make for a great series.
yes Pourcel to BTO on the 350 I want to see it! Factory KTM support while insulating the factory team from potential drama. Sounds like a win win to me.
The man has got talent so I'd love to see him on the gate with everyone else but he just doesn't want to seem to want to put in the effort. I know what he went through and I respect his courage for getting back on the bike at the professional level. But he doesn't have the desire that is required to be a champion.
Bikes don't win races and championships, the rider does. The rider is what makes a bike a championship bike. Look what Chad Reed was able to do even before Honda started giving him factory support. Look what Alessi was able to do this past season.
Im sorry Pourcel is a has been now. I could care less if hes French hes a stuck up snob anyway. So he wrecked real bad once, to bad it diddnt humble him a little. This kid has whined his whole time in the states, noone wants me to win. whaa. Ride, dont ride, I could care less.
@ rickamatuzio KINDA LIKE YOUR BUT BUDDIES stanto,Rj,and Susan ..
Like you tool piece of shit
He's going to BTO KTM, stamp it. LOL
As much as I don't like the guy you have to respect what he's been through and how fast he is. I'd love to see him as Dungey's team mate on a 350. He's small enough I think the 350 would suit him. Maybe Decoster can tame him?
One thing I see is someone who wants to Live in the United States and raise a family here, make money, enjoy life and pay his taxes. He is one of the very few who come to America the right way. I don't consider him a bad guy for jumping off the YZ450. Its a death trap.
He is not some dumb ass kid that takes anything. He is a PRO and thinks his contract out and waits for the best deal he can make, and nothing is wrong with that.
It would be an honor to ride with him if I were given the chance. I would bet jsut about everyone bashing him would take him up on the chance to spend a day with him riding. Who knows you just might learn something positive that could change your life.
He may piss some off...but...to come back from what he has...win two supercross titles and come so close outdoors twice...I hope he comes back to mux it up in the US again. He is the James Stewart of Europe...love him...hate him...the guy hauls ass!
JS7 of Europe............Ouch!!
lol
I enjoyed watching Pourcel ride when he was here in the US. I also like when people are true to themselves and their inherent personalities. Who wants to hear things through a filter all the time anyway? Pourcels attitude is quite entertaining.
I am also not sure why people are so mean. Ragging on people with inferences to their countries/cultures is very shallow. My suggestion...travel a little, there are many great things to be found in other cultures. The ignorant and pompous inability to see things outside the local paradigm is an unfortunate trend.
Whlie many fans agree that CP is a major douche, at the same time, a lot of people would like see him in both SX and MX. IMO, if it happens, 2013 could appear even better!
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I have traveled quite a bit, have foreign relatives, and listening to a euro speak a second or most times a third or fourth language, takes a little interpreting. Things may sound blunt or pampas but all they are doing is trying to communicate in a native tongue.
How many languages do most (there are some multilingual) N Americans speak? ONE, and we speak it all day everyday. So when a euro thinks they did well by answering a question, we read it and say that they have no manners, or no respect.
SUMMARY- if you went to Africa and made a whole bunch of clicking noises they would think you were an idiot.
Just saying.......
The more the merrier.....great rider to develop the 3fity stateside...the guy can ride...i doubt if 1/10 of 1 % percent of the people who hate him have ever seen him in person let alone spoken a word to him......he ,like Havoc is fun to watch and can haul on the bike...just what really is the problem...anybody here paying him..didn't think so....then cut the dude some slack..more decent riders make for better racing.........
Yes, to an outsider some of you American's do act like Douchbags!
Us foreiners do find the American way of life fantastic and bigger,
, after all the grass is greener.
It's just that some of you are dickheads and lack respect for each other and yourselves, and are not too proud to show the rest of the world.
Correct me if i am wrong.
Hey everybody, the all-knowing god of SX/MX has spoken again......"B-KR" has told us what will happen with Cristophe if he comes to America...we are all so lucky to have the wisdom and crystal ball of "B-KR" to guide us through each and every season! Thanks "B-KR"......you are Neato!! Oh, and "b787tech".....you are an absolute d-bag loser!! Shut the f--k up!!
A - He is obviously a good/great rider who people enjoy watching. I personally enjoy watching how he effortlessly carves an outside line like few others can.(so do others obviously)
B - Just count how many posts are above this one. It would take a JS7 story to stir up this much passion/controversy/interest. yes?
C - A + B = Bums on seats/sponsers/$...... Which keeps our sport strong.
D - Mitch / Rodger etc are well aware of this. (he never really Allessi burned bridges when he left either)
E - All you haters keep acting the wankers you so obviously are it will get Christophe the where I'd like to see him. The US!!!
Cheers.
You americans should understand what free will is. Every man has his own preference of what is worth it or not. Im sure he is well aware that he could end up with no ride. But that is his choise, RIGHT?
i really wish christophe will have a good chance again in his carreer..he is the cleanest rider,his has amazing style and he is a good low profile guy.great comment mean kx..those guys,the pourcel haters must have forgot the motocross lessons by pourcel in unadilla in 09,10 to dungey and canard..
dimm377, no my friend, they DO remember; if you get my meaning. They are fanboi's of certain riders and their worldview is that they are "the fastest" anywhere.
Then they think of those days when CP had his hydration/nutrition right and would TOY with their riders. Letting them back up with him, him gesturing to them "let's play!"
Oh the humanity.
@BigUglyManiac
AC222 does OK at adverts with his helmet off and he's no looker haha.
The more people in a series the better in my opinion, I will be happy to see CP racing AMA or GP's.
As for comments about him having no heart / desire. I don't think you get into a title chase without it, regardless of skill. Especially in the AMA series against 'the fastest riders in the world.'!
For those that aren't aware...his father compares with Mr Pichon and Mr Alessi. I needn't explain further.
US fans should know that motocross is a little different in France compared to the rest of the continent I think. They used to (not sure if they still do) have their own domestic SX series, and whenever a local went to race in the US, the media attention they got whilst in the States was very good. Only to say a lot of Euros love the AMAs. Its different to the GPs and offers a nice althernative in viewing pleasure. In France..that view is even more acute. It is highly likely (I know cause I read the comments of his fans on his FB page) that the majority of his French fans want to see him return to the US. Lets face it...he is so comparable to JMB, even if he doesn't like to hear that. And JMB is an icon.
JMB was the shit... came-saw-kicked ass- then left?
JMB STILL HAS A HOUSE HERE !
Winning races in the AMA series 2009/ 2010, after an almost career ending injury.
In a foreign country, with a lot of haters. At a young age without parents like all the other top riders. One word: HERO.
Some of you guys sound like bunch of girls moaning about Justin Beiber not winking at you at a concert.
Pourcel just wants a bike that he feels is capable of winning races and to ride anything less would set him at a disadvantage. Its as simple as that.
Ryan Dungey and Trey Canard were his equal contemporaries (some would argue Pourcel was better) and hose guys walked into 450 factory rides while Mike Fisher, failing to recognise Pourcels World title, x2 Regional Supercross Championships and x2 Outdoor Runner Up spots on board Kawasaki machinery, shafted him in favour of Weimer. It wasn't about the money, it was personal choice by Mike Fisher who has since been fired for other questionable choices made while managing the factory Kawasaki team.
Thats where it went wrong.
And for the people who are jumping to conclusions (as usual) his GP team was disolved after the season so that Kawasaki could focus all their efforts on Tommy Searle in the MX1 class next year. His CP377 team was only ever a satellite Kawasaki team with limited PC support, he has pretty much been racing a stock bike this season.
With four rounds of the World Championship to go he was 3rd in the MX1 standings, the highest placed Kawaski rider in the GP's and the AMA. Unfortunately he crashed and injured his shoulder at the British GP and ended 4th. Again, Kawasaki chose not to recognise this, which is why he finds himself riding a privateer KTM350 for Bercy. The reason he doesn't want to race the GP's next season is because he doesn't feel he should have to pay the high entry fees and his heart is obviously still in America.
Put him on a good bike comparable to his main rivals - Villopoto, Dungey, Canard, Reed etc - and he will be a contender, indoors and out! All he wants is an equal footing.
I wonder if FrickNFrack (who I still "dought" ever went to school) is as handsome as AC222 with his helmet off. A real looker..
I can't wait to talk to Josh Grant next week to tell him his realtors little brother is spewing financial information around the Internet. I also can't wait to find out if you made it past 10th grade. Isn't it time you let the little bicker we had 3 months ago go away? Your acting like a 15 years old that had his lollipop taken away. I'll give Grant my "autograf" for you, he was a friend on the family. Small world unfortunately, for you.
CP377 is an amazing talent and I really hope he comes here to race. His style reminds me of Kevin windham, Craig decker, JMB. So smooth he doesn't look fast.. The dude mad some mistakes, but who doesn't? The more contenders we have battling for the series win the better for all of us.
I know I am assuming a lot, but I assume he would be a threat to win. Maybe not..
HA HA !
@ rickamatuzio
Dont kid yourself no one whats your Autograph........When I see you in Vegas I'll shove me tool in susans ass
The GP's have become a joke. No offense to Caroili and Herlings but the money just isn't there. CP377 can come and ride for a satellite team doing SX only and make more money.
Has anyone noticed I've like put close to 25 guys on the new BTO Sports KTM team. Does anyone know who is actually riding for this team yet ?
Wow this thread is giving the JS threads a run!!
Alessi's beat every factory bike this outdoor season with the exception of one. And even then he won a moto. I'm not an Alessi fanboy, hes certainly not my favorite rider, but in my eyes he took a big chunk out of the "I need a factory ride to be competitive" excuse this year. I said this before but apparently this comment string is dominated by either douches or people too busy patting themselves on the back for not being douches.
@ 731Choppe Your a tool Clint ! vote Romney dill weed
@rjstreets The top GP riders earn good money, but Supercross has ALWAYS been where the most money is. It's the most lucrative division of the sport hands down and the main reason foreign riders move to the States. When combined with the Outdoor series there is way more earning potential for the riders able to land the sought after deals in America. You won't earn much from racing the just the Outdoors.
@731Chopper Or was it actually because most of the Factory riders were injured? Two of the three factory riders who did last the season - Weimer & Brayton - were hardly a championship threat.
I hope he comes back to the US for SX and outdoors. He is an amazing talent and I would much rather be watching him race than a lot of the fodder that seem to get good rides these days (see Stroupe 2012, T Hahn 2010, Davalos every year, Josh Hansen, Tedesco etc, etc).
731Chopper makes a good point - Alessi did beat a lot of factory bikes this season (even though many of the top 450 guys were out). Also, Reed was pretty competitive on his 22 Motosports Honda in 2011 before he was getting factory support (think back to the first 8 rounds of SX in 2011, he was not getting much if any support from Honda factory). I think if CP377 got a good bike under him, with some good support he would run top-5 outdoors and a solid top-8 indoors, with the potential for SX podiums and National moto wins. Yeah, he's that good.
@chopper, I've said that all year long. The question is.. Is Alessi beating everyone BECAUSE a stock 450 is getting so much closer to factory bikes? Or BECAUSE the field is weak?
It's a good question. I say both, but when Dowd showed up and beat factory guys, I question the level of the field. I am guessing when 5 top guys from the lites class move up, we will see a big change. Again.. I think. I realize one person on here doesn't like my opinion, but I'm still going to give it anyway.
The 450 class is very weak..
Pourcel can come in and make a statement.
And PLEASE.. The French? What have they ever won without the U.S.As help? I have no respect for the country itself, they are not gracious of American riders and if anyone remembers the food for oil program.. France needs a kick in the nuts. They even made is fly around them. Off topic but don't act like France is kind and forgiving.. They owe the US some gratitude.
Sorry for the ramble.. Not a douche
esobear86 and jamma10 - you two are a breath of fresh air on here. Please contribute often...if you will.
I have said it dozens of times...Poucel's 2010 ride at Unadilla was and is in my top 5rides of ALL time that i have witnessed. Oodles of talent.
Dinosaur, list your top 5 rides please.
Robbie Reynard Unadilla 98 has to be one of them.. Running down Carmichael on his rm125. Awesome.
Carmichael 99 Milville on a 125, last to first.
Tortelli 99, glen Helen 35th to 1st.
Love them or hate them, nobody can light up a messsage board like Bubba & CP!
Agreed 100% Verge! I absolutely despise CP (& JS7 but there is no reason to talk about JS7 on this thread) and here he is lighting up this board.
All I want to point out.... is that it seems like Pourcel has been uncomfortable or unhappy with every ride hes been offered or had... EXCEPT Mitch Payton's PC team. I feel like that's a true testament to how badas$ the PC Kawi team is.
Some people like french fries, some french bread. Cut the guy some slack. He's a true racer at heart. Most people (riders) would not have managed to come back from the adversity that CP#377 endured. He would be a great opponent here in SX but especially OUTDOORS. Hope a deal comes through for the guy. Pourcel was the main rider Baggett studied for hours and hours on video, wanting to copy CP's smooth, effortless style. Guess that counts for something in CP#377's defense ( plus, my Grandpa was born in France so, what can I say...). Most all of us have roots somewhere in Europe... where Moto came from... circle of life stuff.... rambling... sh!t... come on MEC!!!
I seem to recall from history classes the French providing lots of money, ships and troops to fight side by side with us in our war for independence against the British. In fact, without the help from France, we would never have been able to beat the British and win our independence to become the nation we are today. The French also had significant holdings here which they deeded to us for nothing. Remember the Louisiana Purchase? It represented about 1/3 the land mass of what is now the US and France essentially deeded the land to us to establish our nation. The French worthless…I think not.
What's up RACER-X?
I'm getting other people's 'handles' attached to my message when posting a message I've written... Have I been hacked through your system?
I commented on JonR290's French History lesson and it looks like DeathToRalphShaheen wrote it instead? What's going on?
2nd time in two days this has happened...
@MotoXscript, glad I am not the only one that listened in American History classes during my formative years. Good luck clearing up your alias/hacking situation.
Clearly, the disgust and respect for CP377 should persuade some team to open an acceptable spot for him.
Other than AC, there is no other rider I want to see in the big show more than Cristophe.
Imagine Dungey, Reed, Windahm, Stewart, Pourcel, Villopoto, Canard,.......
I can see them adjusting their goggles and clapping their gloves together behind the gate right now.........and the 30 second board goes sideways.......