by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: MXoN
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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PrintThere were a number of things that became quite apparent at the 66th running of the Monster Energy Motocross of Nations in Lommel, Belgium. The dynamic duo of Tony Cairoli and Jeffery Herlings appear to be the most dominant sand riders in the world. And they proved it on the grandest of stages. Cairoli put to bed his previous troubles at the MXoN with a 1-1 performance at Lommel. Meanwhile, the 18-year-old Dutch rider, Herlings, put in a dazzling performance under immense pressure to capture the MX3 crown—and very nearly pulled off a comeback to defeat Cairoli, the six-time world champion, in the final moto.
It’s also quite apparent that Lommel is a track unlike any the U.S. team had ever seen. A track that shell shocked the Americans. A track that … well … we were unprepared for.
And last but certainly not least, Germany, lead by Ken Roczen and Max Nagl, for the first time in 66 tries, were able to wrap their hands around the Chamberlain Trophy. The pageantry that engulfs the MXoN every year is something truly unique to the sport, and should be embraced. There is nothing like it, and nothing that matches it. Congrats to our boys for a valiant effort under difficult circumstances, and to Team Germany for their first ever overall to the MXoN.
Now, let’s get to the lap charts.
Race 1 (MX1 + MX2)
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 2 | 1:54.800 | 5 | Gautier Paulin (FRA) |
| 2 | 1 | 1:55.998 | 1 | Antonio Cairoli (ITA) |
| 3 | 5 | 1:56.359 | 1 | Ken Roczen (GER) |
| 4 | 12 | 1:57.534 | 1 | Rui Goncalves (POR) |
| 5 | 3 | 1:57.666 | 1 | Max Nagl (GER) |
| 6 | 4 | 1:57.735 | 4 | Clement Desalle (BEL) |
| 7 | 7 | 1:58.777 | 4 | Ryan Dungey (USA) |
| 8 |
6 | 1:59.293 | 1 | Evgeny Bobryshev (RUS) |
| 9 | 13 | 1:59.733 | 1 | Martin Barr (IRL) |
| 10 | 9 | 2:00.082 | 3 | Marc de Reuver (NED) |
Race 2 (MX2 + Open)
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 1:55.720 | 2 | Jeffrey Herlings (NED) |
| 2 | 3 | 1:56.385 | 1 | Ken de Dycker (BEL) |
| 3 | 14 | 1:57.672 | 2 | Justin Barcia (USA) |
| 4 | 4 | 1:59.449 | 3 | Ken Roczen (GER) |
| 5 | 2 | 1:59.825 | 1 | Tanel Leok (EST) |
| 6 | 5 | 2:01.373 | 2 | Davide Guarneri (ITA) |
| 7 | 6 | 2:01.918 | 2 | Blake Baggett (USA) |
| 8 |
9 | 2:03.022 | 2 | Max Anstie (GBR) |
| 9 | 8 | 2:03.632 | 4 | Todd Waters (AUS) |
| 10 | 11 | 2:03.682 | 2 | Marvin Musquin (FRA) |
Race 3 (MX1 + Open)
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
1:54.699 |
1 | Antonio Cairoli (ITA) |
| 2 | 2 | 1:57.436 | 3 | Jeffrey Herlings (NED) |
| 3 | 11 | 1:58.972 | 3 | Max Anstie (GBR) |
| 4 | 8 | 2:00.070 | 4 | Gautier Paulin (FRA) |
| 5 | 9 | 2:00.442 | 1 | Ryan Dugney (USA) |
| 6 | 3 | 2:00.501 | 1 | Justin Barcia (USA) |
| 7 | 7 | 2:01.561 | 2 | Clement Desalle (BEL) |
| 8 |
4 | 2:01.806 | 2 | Tanel Leok (EST) |
| 9 | 33 | 2:02.148 | 9 | Evgeny Bobryshev (RUS) |
| 10 | 5 | 2:03.033 | 4 | Ken de Dycker (BEL) |
Herlings (left) and Cairoli (right) shined at Lommel.
Ray Archer photo
With the MXoN being such a unique event, there’s a ton of information to try to stomach. So instead of hacking through three pages of information, check out some of our interesting stats we found below:
Race 1 (MX1 + MX2)
- Although he grew up in France, and is known as more of a hard pack rider, Gautier Paulin showed off his versatility at Lommel. In the deep sands, Paulin not only outdueled Cairoli for the fastest lap of the first moto, he set his on lap 5, while Cairoli went low early (lap 1) with a 1:55.998
- The first race of the 66th Motocross of Nations featured the underpowered 250Fs against the beastly 450 and 350Fs. And while two riders were able to crack the top-10—Germany’s Ken Roczen and Belgiums’ Jeremy van Horebeek—only Roczen was able to set a fast lap good enough for the top-10. And just to put the cherry on top of a brilliant performance, Roczen set the THIRD fastest lap of the moto on his 250F. Simply an amazing performance from the 2011 World Champion.
- The Irish are known for many things: their prowess in the pubs, shepherds pie and some of the best golf links in the world. But motocross and Ireland have never sparked national media attention. Martin Barr changed a lot of that with his great performance in the first moto—a 13th place finish, and the ninth fastest lap time.
Race 2 (MX2 + Open)
- One moto after Paulin set his fastest lap (1:54.800) the young phenom Jeffrey Herlings went out and took the boys to the woodshed in the second moto. But what stood out from the moto was that Herlings’ fastest lap was less than a second off the pace of Paulin, which came on a much deeper, much tougher track.
- An early crash in the second moto with Ken de Dycker would cost Justin Barcia immensely, after his front tire locked up late in the moto. But Barcia was still able to set the third fastest lap of the moto—which would also stand as the fastest lap for any American.
- To put it simplistically, Estonia’s Tanel Leok was the Cinderella story from Lommel. Leok finished second in the first moto and was also able to set the fifth fastest lap in the process.
- Australia entered the Motocross of Nations decimated by injuries, but it may have left with a future star. Todd Waters left his mark in Lommel with an eighth in the second moto, and the ninth fastest time.
- In the last moto that matched 250Fs vs. the 450 and 350s Blake Baggett joined Roczen and Marvin Musquin as the only three MX2 riders to break the top-10 in fastest lap times.
Race 3 (MX1 + Open)
- The highly anticipated face-off between Cairoli and Herlings took place in the third and final moto. After a bad start Herlings made up a ton of ground on Cairoli late to close the gap to within two seconds. But Cairoli held on for the monumental victory. He also set the FASTEST lap of the day in that moto, the final after a long weekend, with the track at its worst, with a 1:54.699—inching out Paulin for the honor.
- Great Britain’s Max Anstie had a breakout performance at Lommel, and his fastest lap of the third moto was just over one second off the pace of Herlings’—which gave him third. An impressive feat for the young Brit on a 450.
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I think we need to bring cairoli and herlings back to lommel to duke it out one on one to see who's the sand king)
Common, ktm, season is over.make it happen!
Common, ktm, season is over.make it happen!
@meankx,, I think Herlings would take that honor.
Carioli's 1:54.699 in the last moto pretty much sums up the events of the weekend. It was a pleasure to watch the Euro's in their element! Nice to see AC get his dues! Herlings
was very impressive in style and speed. Really good to see Rozcen do so well, especially after so many bagged on him during nationals. In retrospect this loss will be great motivation for future Team USA efforts.
Would love to see how Rv would stack up against those two). I guess we might never see that unless they make mxdn@lierop soon... On other tracks he's got everyone covered though! It was a great race, none the less. I really enjoyed the track, that's what mx is all about. I'm sure that our boys will get that trophy back for many years to come!
Great perspective, Chase. This is my first look at lap times, moto breakdowns and highlights. Paulin (in my opinion) will be a rider to reckon with in the next few years. He's got the frame to muscle the 450 and finesse to keep it upright. Ken Roczen (as mentioned) was pretty damn impressive against the 450's, not to mention the 350's of Tony Cairoli and Herlings. After watching (all) of the GP's through-out the year, I don't remember seeing the 350 KTM bowing to any 450 (power), on any track. Cause for consideration...
There are so many elements of conditions, riders and mechanicals to weigh over this past weekend, watching the MX-LIFEtv.com 6 plus hours of programing will be a welcome addition to a long cold winters night, and a great review.
Nice work, Chase!
People looking for an out are bringing up RV... RV isn't a better sand rider than Dungey or Barcia.
Also, Cairoli put in a really fast lap on lap 1. I still say that Herlings is the best guy in the sand. Cairoli was in first place by turn 2. Herlings was in last.
"In the last moto that matched 250Fs vs. the 450 and 350s Blake Baggett joined Roczen as the only two MX2 riders to break the top-10 in fastest lap times."
Looks like Musquin fits in with the two above ;).
One thing that is being left out is that Herlings went down at the start of moto 3 and bruised a rib. He was in quite a bit of pain and decided to back off towards the end of the moto. Initially they thought he broke a rib, but during a hospital visit Sunday night they found that it was bruised, not broken.
Lets all put some money in and get Cairoli and Harlings to come to the MEC!!
Roczen was on it on his 250F. USA needs to get a track just like this in the Nationals. I believe if our guys raced on it and had setups for it, we would have won. I am actually surprised by how well we did on the fastest lap list.
PS About the 350 vs 450 issue...Now, that may not be giving Tony credit for getting everything out of the 350 to level the playing field as a true comparison.
Tony is not the largest rider out there, so maybe his "weight to power" ratio is the key. Ryan Dungey, (I believe) has stated the 450 is his (comparative) choice, and is a bit taller/heavier than Tony. Just Sayin...
How about lets all put our fist together and get rid of BillC
@mx-n: You're correct. That's was an oversight on my part and has been fixed.
Thanks,
Chase
Mx d Nations ists such a great specticle move it 1 month after the racing is complete.......Us should have a better scouting system for tracks there everywhere in the Us during the Nationals...........Maybe since its all outdoor mx go ride some tracks !!!!!!!!! US just was bea......t its all good cant win everything all the time !
Hey,DC! How about a track like that in our championship? Common man, make it happen! It sucks to see our boys getting lapped like that! How about a race in the snow and ice? People did it in Russia back in the days. Mx is getting softer! I understand it's becoming more commercial (tv coverage, bigger jumps etc. which I love), but lets not forget about roots!!!
RD, BB and JB got beat. I do not think that if we had RV, JS and ET representing the USA we would have done any better. This is exactly what RV ment when he said that going over there would be nothing to gain during a contract negotiation. We were not as fast as Germany, Belguim or may be some other teams this time. We finished a very respectable 3rd. When I see the picture of team USA on the podium it makes me proud of team USA. They new that to win this they were going to need some luck. They went over and represented the USA and raced their hearts out thanks guys! Great race, great track great outcome.
I wasn't aware team USA had Ryan Dugney on the team! Apparently he raced in the third moto.
Jeffrey Herlings is the best sand rider on the planet closely followed by Toni Cairoli. Even though the lap times don't show it, Herlings had more raw speed. Herlings was down in the 1st corner and had to do all the work to catch back up to Toni.
If Cairoli wanted to put the "King of Sands" title to bed, he should of cleared off and made it impossible for Herlings to even catch him. The way Herlings came through the pack, in my eyes, makes him King of Sands.
Again, as I've posted elsewhere, I'm from the U.S., born and raised, but I almost enjoyed seeing us lose, if that makes sense. I'm not anti-American or un-patriotic, but it's nice to see a bunch of you clowns eat some humble pie after all the arrogant/over-confident dribble you've been spewing the past few weeks and months. There are no "what-if" or "yeah, but" statements to be made here. Our boys got schooled by Cairoli and Herlings, above all, and several others, as well.
Good on Kenny-Roc and the Germans for their victory, and good on the US for still making the box.
@Caseypons. Herlings was also riding the 350 at the des Nations. He is a lot bigger than Cairoli and might even be bigger/heavier than Dungey. He is a big boy!! That being said, he still hammered the field except for Cairoli. I was at the race and if it hadn't been for the factors of his tip over, bruised ribs and fact he rode 2 moto's back to back. He would have beat Cairoli. I watched both riders very closely Saturday and Sunday. Herlings is a beast in the sand.
Side note to all those that think RV might have done better than Dungey or Barcia in Lommel. Check out his times and finishes on the so called sand tracks in the U.S. He would not have done any better and could very well have done worse as he does have a tendency to push it and crash every now and then also. He could have cost the U.S. third as well. Just my two cents.
Seems Ken Roczen is inadvertently stirring it up with Ryan Dungey on twitter:
KR: At least this time team USA saw that when you go away from home, it's not always easy. Conditions are brutal for you and normal for us.
RD: ???????
KR: ?
I like Roczen, but sometimes he's a bit clueless. Has the MXoN ever been easy? Is he making an excuse for his first year in the States? Anyway, it is just a weird comment, and Dungey's reply is perfect.
Last years Southwick, moto 1. That's when Rv was riding smart and thinking championship. Dungey had great start and was running away. After mid point of the race, Rv started throwing down the fastest laps of the day catching rd in process. That's what we consider sand track here in US, which is nothing like lommel. Betting against RV is like betting against Anderson Silva:) all I stated before was that I would like to see how he would do against cairoli and herlings on that track. It's not a"what if?" situation. It's just my wish. There are no guarantees in this sport.it's totally unpredictable even to the champs themselves. I knew before the race that cairoli and herlings should win easily and we should win the whole thing, but in mx you never know for sure.
Back to work:D
Cairoli may not be the biggest rider but he isn't tiny.
and to throw a wrench in your power to weight ratio thing why dungey needs a 450,, check out Herlings who was on a 350. That dude is a beast compared MX riders, except Peick.
@last bike
Is that why US holds the record for most wins @mxdn all over the world? Because conditions are tough there for us and normal for them?:) Roczen seems to have really short memory
Lap times made me feel a little better but we still got schooled. AC and Herlings were flying!! I think AC had him though. I believe he had more in the tank. But Im not European enough to make that call with any certainty. I like the guys (few) that say Herlings is going to come over here and stomp our riders... Now that's funny. Said the same thing about Roczen. Aside from sand tracks I think Roczen has Herlings covered. Come on down to Las Vegas Mr Herlings, double or nothin? At the very least it will be a good time. School us here, make us all believers!
been reading alot over the last couple of days......alot of you are wayyy over analyzing this. It's an entirely different riding style to go fast in the deep stuff......this was a set up.
There was no way the US guys were going to go over there and win motos but they should have retained the Trophy......think they let the hype get to them and started throwing it away.
As far as those of you arguing over whether RV would've made a difference? He may not be much faster in the sand than RD or Barcia.....but he's clutch. Over his entire career...when his back is against the wall and he needs to perform...he does! As he did in Moto 3 last year...
There's no way he succumbs to the pressure and throws it away like RD and Barcia did.
That was somewhat embarrasing..
Would also like to add that crowning anyone the 'best in the world' based on that race is foolish. Americans just don't ride those tracks! How bout have the MXoN in 2013 at Vegas, under the lights with 3 ft stadium whoops and a 500ft long rythm section?
It's all relative.......
as a non-biased Canadian I say enjoy last weekend for the spectacle that it was and move on. There are great racers all over the world...
@LastBikeRM250
KROC: "Conditions are brutal for you and normal for us"
RD: ????????
My Comment: WTF ?
JimM
Pala374
"I like Roczen, but sometimes he's a bit clueless. Has the MXoN ever been easy? Is he making an excuse for his first year in the States? "
Yes, probably both for him and Musquin. ;-D
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Roczens SX season was entertaining and Nationals this year, well...
Many wonder if it was the girlfriend, lack of (euro GP) training?, easy life?, Chipotle, (missing playing with Dianna)?, that made the "world" 250F king a "also ran".
Looking totally done finishing third when Bagget/Tomac hardly broke a sweat winning.
In the GP´s he was undesputed king!
He better shapen up or 2013 is gonna be no fun for him!
Worst case scenario, back in GP´s 2014...
I love K-Roc! It is sad that Cairoli and Herlings dont race the MEC.
Nobody expects them to win, just a race, have some fun!
I do think we were just as fast as the other teams but for the first time in a long time we had some bad mistakes, first moto for Barcia a crash while in 3rd and his wheel blew up and ended up 14 so he could have had maybe a 3rd. 2nd moto Barcia and Dungey, Dungey goes down while in 3rd trying to miss Barcia and ends up what 9th sure he wouldn't have beaten Herling but maybe he could have been 4th with Barcia's 3rd and The US team would have been right there for the win. But it didn't happen the guys had a few mistakes which obviously took them out of contention.
KROC was making a point that when u move to a new country...take on there life style there foods there wether....it 100% takes its toll....add having none of your normal friends and family around.....then after that you have a job 2do..go race!!
and you r racing on tracks you have never see or ridden...and the competion has!!!
RD RV BB JB JS7 KW MA800 TC none would take a GP title in the 1st try for the same reasons....but without a doubt would mix it up just as Kroc has
2013 will be interesting....Kroc will have had that learning yr...he will understand the format....be able to race laps of the tracks in his head and be better prepared..
your boys are fast as hell at what you know and are used to.....you struggle at lommel coz it was new and out the comfort zone...
kenny has proved his a threat....you all know he is....and when his comfortable he wins!!! he wont have any excuses next yr....so we will see...
@jimbo KROC is talking about the differences between AMA and GP racing. Roczen is a GP champion and Dungey is a AMA champion, but when they leave their respected comfort zones they can't race on a champion's level.
Its really funny when people talk about how euros don't ride like americans and that they only won because it was a home track......
Roczen won here his first year in supercross...........and also his 1st year in MX, when it definitely isn't his style of riding.
KROC is not an also ran, you don't lead the most laps and are an also ran.
I see some comments saying for guys to race "just for fun".
Fellas, this is Professional MX and getting handed a whippin' isn't "fun".
(some of) These guys have seriously fragile egos and cannot accept a straight-up beating by another racer. That is part of the psyche that makes a racer, a racer.
holding a mental edge over your competition is a large percentage of your ability to compete amongst the top-tier.
Example: If you've never beaten #?, how do you mentally fit that into your program. Conversely, if you've never lost to #?, how do accept that?
Seems like Dungey vs Roczen is already shaping up.
There was a track on the National circut that got rough like Lommel (ok, maybe not as rough) called Glen Helen. In 2015 we'll see how the world respond to playing on the US playground. Unril then the next MXDN is in Germany giving the defending champs home court advantage. So let the waffling begin. Man waffles are awesome on a cold morning.
"KROC is not an also ran, you don't lead the most laps and are an also ran."
Of course not but when listed as 4:rth in the 2012 nationals, in historybooks, he was also competeing. Nothing more.
"I see some comments saying for guys to race "just for fun".
Fellas, this is Professional MX and getting handed a whippin' isn't "fun".
(some of) These guys have seriously fragile egos and cannot accept a straight-up beating by another racer. That is part of the psyche that makes a racer, a racer."
So only RV, Stewart and Reed should enter the MEC then?
Any person that can't handle loosing needs to stay out of competition.
Does anyone know if another motorcycle manufacture has won all six motos at the MXDES before like KTM did this weekend?
Thanks if you know
did you guys forget 08(britain), 09(italy), 11(france) and everything before that!?? In saying that our boys struggle on your turf?? Yeah, sure Rv was struggling to stay awake on that last lap so that dungey could catch him to cross the finish line together! Not even mentioning any gp riders:) you people are in denial! That's sad....
The USA has been so successful in the MXON by being the most consistent teams. Yes we are fast and have dominated some events but we are the most consistent team over all. This year we did not have the consistency needed to win. How did Caroili's team do? He won both of his races but his team was not consistent.
glen helen is a good track for the nats to have back and for the gp...
it does get ruff and will be ruffer at the nations coz the FIM wont let it be groomed
isnt it abit sandy in places????
and isnt it open to pro level for practice thursdays??
perfect race i think....it will suit every pro rider....gp or ama....
shame we got 2 wait 2yrs!!!!
@ MX691, "So only RV, Stewart and Reed should enter the MEC then?"
If that is what you concluded from my comment, you didn't read the other posts leading up to my comment.
My point is racers don't line up to get beat. If you don't understand that, I couldn't possibly explain it to you. You ARE on this site though so, part of this mentality must "click" with you.
What the laptimes show is that the U.S. boys needed to just do their own thing and stay up and not try any banzai up the inside passes. I was referring to the US fortunes as bad luck but am now recanting that as they did it all to themselves. One thing all those who did well in the races have in common and that is they stayed on the bike. Barcia likely could have pulled a 4th or a 3rd even in his first moto if he didn't try to pass DeDyker like he was going to catch Cairoli and beat Herlings if he didn't NOW. Dungey probably could have gotten a 6th or so without his crash and we saw what Baggett could do without a crash.
Anyone paying attention to what happens to Dungey even, when he rides over his head? Somehow he forgot his own modus operandi. Look forward to 2013 with a team of RV nd Dungey again on a track that is somewhat firmer than a vat of sugar.
Retired-pro mxer: Seeing as America dominated so much in the 80s and were often on Hondas, I would say someone has. In 1982 Magoo won every moto run. 1986 an all Honda US team was the top finisher in class for each moto.
BritishArmPump: What many always overlook about racing in the US after they speak about culture and track familiarity is.......the heat and humidity at some of the outdoor races. It is something that is not seen often (if at all) in the GPs. Even in Lommell, if there had been the heat and humidity of some of the hotter US races we may have seen much different results. It is the factor that destroyed De Reuver when he came to Southwick those years ago and got lapped by RC in the heat. It wasn't the track or the sand or RC's speed (although that was a big one).......it was the heat that got to him. I think that is a bigger factor in than any other for GP riders coming over........although the South African guys are used to it.
Great that Max Anstie made it on there! He is fast in the sand! anyone that seen Lirop GP, like me, expected more out of him at Lommel. Bit of bad luck. Paulin rode great. I'm pretty sure he finished second in the MX1 season and this was his first year.
I can say one thing I went to Baalen in Belgie to a belgium national in 2011 and that s also a sandtrack and there where many big names there riding also cairolie and the fact was that Herlings won all 3 heats with more then a minute in front off the rest so i think that cairolie was lucky that herlings went down in the first lap of the thirt heat at the des nations and brused some ribs otherwise herliings would have won it .And i think that Herlings is almost as fast ( fure sure faster on sandtracks) (2011 on sx training tracks in the USA almost the same times as roczen and musquin) as whining Ken Roczen who s always have a problem with his bike or a flu. Why was Ken not riding a 250 at the gp in gemany to go against tommy gun searle and herlings and why does he ride the 250 in belgium because he has more chance to win it the easy way yhat s why
this kid rips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYC6F7tpdeo ...but as far as the laptimes go Its obvious that the track got beat up fast so if any of the riders were stuck in traffic the first couple of laps they had no chance of setting the fast lap times...
Congrats to Cairoli and Herlings for their incredible performances! I think that Herlings looked to be the best sand rider but his bad start and back to back motos was too much to overcome. Although Cairoli did set the fastest lap by far and was able to step it up at the end of the motto fend off Herlings. Since there is a lot of Euros on this site I have a question about the KTM 350s. In the US we have a production rule that doesn't allow the 350 to be bored or stroked! The 350 has not done well in the US and with the best starter alive was only able to get one holeshot. The holeshot Cairoli pulled in the deep sand in moto 3 was outstanding!! My question is does the GP 350s have 400 cc's or more due to GP rules? I have asked this question more than once and never got a clear answer. If anyone can clear that up for me I would be very thankful. Also I would like to congratulate the Germans for a outstanding effort, they killed it and won by a huge margin.
You will find the compltes results here:
http://www.motocrossmx1.com/reslists.aspx
If you click on "analysis", you will find all laptimes.
Have a look on these laptimes and you will recognize, who is the fastest sandrider and you will recognize, why team US got lapped
Last i heard was when they tore down a 350 it was indeed a 350
It's a 350, they opened up Cairoli's engine during the world champhionship and they verified its cubic capacity.
Ripdown: Duh... I seem to remember RV feeling the pressure racing Dungey in 2010 as he crashed and broke his leg trying to beat him. RD IS THE MAN!!! Get used to it....
meankx wrote: 4:45pm October 2, 2012
did you guys forget 08(britain), 09(italy), 11(france) and everything before that!?? In saying that our boys struggle on your turf?? Yeah, sure Rv was struggling to stay awake on that last lap so that dungey could catch him to cross the finish line together! Not even mentioning any gp riders:) you people are in denial! That's sad....
I take it you will be lapping the guys that lapped you in Germany next year then?l