Bench Racing Ammo: Dungey's Run Up the Record Books
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The stats are quickly piling up for Ryan Dungey, which is what happens when you win eight-straight motos and four-straight overalls in the 450 Class of Lucas Oil Pro Motocross. Dungey, at just 22, lives by his “nothing is ever enough” mantra, and by combining that work ethic with his penchant for staying healthy and consistent for the long haul, he’s expected to be hauling in wins and championships for quite some time.
Where does he stand at the moment? Dungey’s win at RedBud puts him into a tie for fourth all-time in 450 Class wins, tied with 1981 and 1982 Champion Kent “The Rhinestone Cowboy” Howerton and, ironically, James Stewart, who Dungey will most likely battle this weekend. We’re looking at a very real chance that Dungey or Stewart will break that tie and move into fourth on the list solo, with Ricky Johnson (22 wins) and Howerton’s old rival Bob Hannah (27 wins) ahead. And no one is catching Ricky Carmichael who has 76 wins.
Dungey has seven 250 MX wins, which is only good enough for about 20th on the all-time list (Dungey is tied with five others with those seven wins). He has 11 SX wins, which is just a blip on the radar in that class. In two and a half years in the big bike class outdoors, this is where Dungey has done the most damage.
Ryan Dungey has won 31 of the 58 motos he's entered in his 450 Class career.
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How much damage? Check out these three crazy stats that MX Sports disseminated last week before RedBud:
1. Ryan Dungey has won 31 of the 58 motos he's entered in his 450 Class career (53%), claiming the overall in 17 of 29 races (58%).
2. Through his first 29 career 450 Class races, Ricky Carmichael captured 21 overall victories. Ryan Dungey has claimed 17 wins in his first 29 starts and already sits sixth on the all-time wins list, just one behind Stewart and Kent Howerton (he’s since tied them, as mentioned above).
3. Carmichael also earned 1,275 career points through the first 29 races of his 450 Class career, while Dungey has amassed 1,293 over that same span.
More points than RC at this point in his career!
Yes, Dungey’s main competition was out in 2010 due to injuries, illness and other ailments, and a similar fate has been bestowed on them in 2012. But wins are wins. Dungey has a whole bunch already, and chances are many more are to come. The record book doesn’t have a what-if category, and it doesn’t have asterisks. Someday, when Dungey is retired, we’ll just remember him as one of the baddest dudes to ever race in the premier class outdoors.
Dungey has scored more points in his career than RC at this point.
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Asterisks everywhere.
I don't see any asterisks.
The only real asterisk there should be is for RV's championships last year. If not for Mike Webb not running a tight ship Dungey would have had the SX and MX championship last year. Fact, not opinion.
Dungey would have had the SX and MX championship last year. Fact, not opinion.
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I see no reason for asterisks. The proof is there. He is one of the contemporary greats. Case closed.
RD is a bad dude no doubt, but when RV is on the track, with or without a roof, RV is the man to beat. RD will always race safe and grab wins and championships when the guys that push it past the limit are hurt (not that the lame slide out in Seattle was pushing it). Too bad we don't get both of them for Des Nations . . . who will the 2nd 450 guy be?? I'd give MA800 the ride right now . . . riding with big time heart and determination.
Agreed on the sx and mx championships last year... Something everyone seems to forget. I also agree that it would be great to give mike a shot at des nations. He really does seem to be determined.
Webb not running a tight ship? Give me a break! Goose is the known as one of the best mechanics out there why not bash him? He was Dungeys mechanic!
You media people can never just give him the full credit without bringing up " well so and so wasnt there in 2010 " when he won that title. Why must you always do that to everyone but your can do no wrong buddy JS ???
Why dont I ever hear you say that about Stewarts Outdoor title when NOBODY was there......No....You will never say that about your boy Stew....I Just cant stand you BIAS Media people, Its all a bunch of BS...............
There will always be those who try and detract from what Ryan has accomplished due to the misfortune of others. The way Dungey races, with he speed and consistency, he would win a lot of races, no matter who he lines up against, always keeping him in title contention. Ryan can only control what he does not who he races.
To that what Dungey does, trains as hard as anyone ever has, puts in countless laps for practice and developing the new KTM, does PR work for all of his sponsors and the series he is participating in to go a long with all of the charity events Ryan attends through out the year. He keeps his comments and attitude positive not delving into any unnecessary out side attractions. Ryan is one that ever manufacturer would like to have ride for them. A great rider, ambassador and good role model, Dungey is the consummate Professional Motocrosser.
@BD Bullseye
@biker143 - I agree with you 100%
It doesn't matter who his competition is. YOU HAVE TO BE IN IT TO WIN IT.
Give credit where credit is due. The dude is a damn stud. Hands down.
A lot of things people say about Dungey could be said about Jeff Stanton. Bayle was faster. Bradshaw was faster. Possibly a few others. He's the one with 6 championships though, and I don't think anyone talks about asterisks with him. Of course, they didn't have message boards like this in his era.
Anytime someone dominates, people want to say 'what if'. but if you are lucky enough to ride over your head and beat him, but then the next time you do it you crash and get hurt, then who's fault is it? maybe you ride outside the edge all season and make it though- but maybe you dont. Dungey is a machine and for the most part stays on 2 wheels. these records are not flukes.
Not to put anything against RC but there was no one at his level while he was racing, I do not know how RC would stack up against these boys but what I do know is that there are two riders in this series that are capable of winning and dungey has won most of the moto's so far and from the records has accomplished plenty battling riders that could best him, like MA, RV, JS, CR, J-Law(ha ha but JL was as good of a rider when RD was racing lites). I think that simply being handpicked by "the man" should be enough. I say thank you to Ryan Dungey for stepping it up, and taking a bike nobody else could win with and showing us it is the rider not the bike that wins.
MX Bob- I did think that about Stanton back in the day,,, not anymore. and you could also say that about the great JMB- he got here in between RJ and MC. but it doesnt matter, rj got hurt and MC was born too late. there are no astericks
No one seems to remember that Kent Howerton won 2 of his out door championships while Bob Hannah was out with a broken leg and riding a 125. My point is every championship has riders hurt or doing SX only etc. Ryan Dungey is one bad dude that has earned his place in history just like all others in the past.
Dungey knows cartwheeling into the stands DOESN'T win championships. Staying healthy and winning races DOES.
And yeah JBS "perfect season" was against NOBODY, where RC's were against some top notch talent.
He used to be my girlfriends favorite rider..(and every girls)...Till he denied to give her an autograph. I completely lost respect for him at that point and so did she. He does the same speech everytime on TV. Like a machine. No personality and no interraction with fans. Just a machine. Like the ever talented Jamie Bestwick said. If you want a rider and thats it, hes your man. No personality. Just clicking laps. The same routine. I respect him as a consistent rider. But not as a person. But people underestimate him when compared to RV. RV is touted as the gnarliest dude out there. He wouldnt have won without a few mechanical DNFs from Dungey. Idk i think all these guys are pretty well matched. It makes for the best racing. Im a JS loyalist but i give credit to the Ryans when its due. He hauled ass this weekend.
and Nealio. Who was top notch? Reed? hahaha not then buddy. Who did RC have to race that was top notch that JS didnt? Windham was there but that was the closest guy.
toothperry- KTM (and Suzuki) have paid him to win championships. I think they are OK with his boring podium speeches.
@mustarddog-haha i get that. but having no attitude? Thats why i miss Jason Lawrence messing with him. Itd make him get mad. Same with barcia those few races last year. A frustrated Dungey blames lappers and immature riders (barcia) its awesome to see him have fire in his eyes.
Bagget is the robot at the MIC with the shoutout's to the sponsors. But I think they are paying him to ride the machine , and be" The chupacabra" he will get it in time !!!!!!!!!!! like the rest of the motos this year!!!!!!!
Who has been the consistently fastest rider for the last 2 1/2 years? Hint: He would have had to go real fast-WITHOUT CRASHING-and finish ahead of everyone the most.
In NASCAR, the fastest qualifier gets the pole but the guy who GOES THE FASTEST FROM LAP ONE UNTIL THE CHECKERED FLAG, FINISHES FIRST, and GETS THE TROPHY gets the most ink. In our sport it seems that if you win the race but don't get the "fastest 1 lap of the day" award, we must insert an asterisk. Most media guys feed this non-sense.
The dungenator. That's All there is to it. This should be his third consecutive outdoor title period. If rv and rds results were completely reversed, haters would be sayin that Dungey is a squid because he got hurt. Thats just cause they are haters, and they can't handle the fact that as good as villopoto has been since he was 3, when no one knew who Dungey was, Dungey is now the man to beat
What I'm saying is THERE IS A REASON THE SAME GUYS ARE ALWAYS MISSING RACES DUE TO INJURY. I'm not criticizing guys who choose to" win or crash trying". I'm simply saying that, with that approach, their is a huge reward AND a huge risk. So don't cry to me about Dungey's championships needing asterisk. Dunge let's everybody else worry about who's the "FMOTP" and "what if" and Yea but"... He's just winning races and collecting championships. By the way, he's pretty flippin fast too!!!!!!!
"Webb not running a tight ship? Give me a break! Goose is the known as one of the best mechanics out there why not bash him? He was Dungeys mechanic!"
Webb is not Goose, Webb is not a mechanic. Webb was the team manager.
I agree with you BD25. Unlike Toothperry's experience with RD, my family and I had a great experience. He was very polite, asked my kids questions AND listened to the answers, signed their posters, and basically made our day. Good to see him win
@Scrub-This,, Givin RV's "out with injury," RD deserves the edge.
@scrubthis dude you just took trolling to the next level. And I was right about the competition thing. Same competition. Or maybe even better competition when JS raced. Besides the point though. Im glad you take my comments to heart
@Scrub-This,, OK,, considering RV's consistancy, RD deserves the edge, and the championships..
I haven't been posting much but have been skimming some posts and biting my tongue. But seriously Preston, are you F'ing kidding me???? I see you're still in bed with JS, as if you even said RD's success is due to riding with JS. You know no bounds when it comes to pumping up your favourite rider clearly in any way, shape or form possible. Get over him already it's nauseating.
@Scrubthis god you are a flippin retard. We were comparing perfect seasons. Pull up those stats also while youre out wasting your time. Youve been jacking off to RCs picture for too long now. Youre brain washed. The people RC was competing against were sooo great. In the early 90's. How old are you anyways. Im surprised you dont have anything better to do than post old facts i dont care about. We get it you dont like Stewart for unknown reasons. Its cute. Keep going. I love seeing how much time you waste for people you dont know or even care that you exist. - Sincerely a "Stewtard"
@scrubthis ahah and the girlfriend comment was a classy blowhard comment. Sorry were not all as priveleged as you and Carmichael didnt let us suck him off.
NO ONE WAS EVER TALKING ABOUT THE 2000 SEASON. It was brought up about perfect seasons. Read a little harder buddy. and you blame him for being popular? Man you must hate everything about your life. And i work at motorcycle shop and im actually in the industry. Stop putting your job title on mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMhuNdFibpE ....all red honda. Educate yourself.
@scrubthis I liked it when JS was 4-0 and you were no where to be found. Hiding on the Dungey fan page probably.
why does anyone give a &%^! about not getting an autograph?? Someone signing a damn poster (or not) doesn't change the world.
It's about wins, period. DUNGEY is a journeyman racer becoming one of the best Champions ever in the sport of Motocross. That's all that's going on here in 2012. Keep killin' it, RD5.
When you are racing for the 450 SX or MX championship it does not matter who is hurt or not if you win the championship you are the best that year. Let the record books speak for them selves. Like Reed says you have To be in it to win it.
Dungey was nearly a lap down last year at Southwick/Moto-X 338 and put on a pretty good passing clinic in the rain and mud that day for 3rd OA (1-7). He and Barcia (36-1) split the wins. Villopoto was 2nd (2-4) to Metcalfe (3-2) who got his 1st 450 class Overall win.
Thanks Weege & RX for posting the numbers for all to see that #5 is a points accumulating machine and his accomplishments are unrivaled by even the sports' elite.
Those who like him have their reasons to and those who don't have theirs which, is free will at it's finest.
It seems the postings have become more & more hostile. I disagree with this direction and hope we all can maintain civility. Let's all remember, this is supposed to be fun!
I'm not singleing anyone out here 'cause there's a lot of mud being slung in all directions but, I do think Scrubs comment about toothperrys girl was uncalled for.
This was a piece about Ryan Dungey and it became a schoolyard, name calling contest which, is foolish.
I have always seen a lot the Goat in Dungy. They are both willing to accept a loss toward the greater goal of a championship. I remember plenty of times in supercross that RC would visibly back down instead of riding over his head and crashing out of a race or a championship. If not for mechanical failures the record books would look a lot different for Dungey. I'm looking forward to seeing Dungey win many championships throughout his career. Earlier someone posed the question how would RC compete today? Somehow I think his records speak for themselves, and he would dominate motocrosstoday just like he did in the past.
Where the heck is YZSean? This article was tailor made for him!
I'll sign off for him................Dungey rules!
@ Tootheperry, you brought it on yourself dude and you are getting schooled.
The " Didn't sign the autograph " story is just lame. Can you imagine how many people have been told NO when asking for an autograph, by every rider in the paddock?
I am quite sure Dungey would not make the top of the list of guys who regularly say NO.
In fact by the mere fact that you posted that, I am guessing that you/your girlfriends timing was impeccable!
As Dungey takes off his helmet after a hot moto, hands it to his mechanic and starts guzzling a bottle of water. A girl from the crowd says " Hey can I have your autograph?" Dungey says, I am sorry not now.
Said girl says, Dungey is a dick, I don't like him anymore! Way to go sport!
Scrub: I know you give Dungey a lot of credit but I think his passing skills are much better than what you say. RV is the best at passing right now-hands down.Then Stewart(pains me to say it) and maybe Reed. I think Dungey is 4th or 5th at worst in passing and, at 22, he is getting better and better. But remember, the other guys crash out while passing a lot. Dungey just has a different strategy. When his bike is right, he gets much more aggressive. But even then, not overly aggressive. I agree with you (at least in SX) that RV has a slight edge right now over Dunge. I'm excited about those 2 going head to head next year because I think they're both going to be at the top of their games on teams and bikes they are both comfortable with. And the best part is they are both class acts.
Haven't signed on in a while but gotta chime in.....
All you guys who say RV didn't deserve his championships are delusional.....
That's all.......
Interesting stuff on here. Especially interesting how Scrub-This seems to know what everyone thinks. I was one of the people who said Jamie Bestwick should not be announcing motocross races. It had nothing to do with his comments about James Stewart. It had everything to do with Bestwick's lack of knowledge and understanding of the sport. My dislike for his commentary goes back to Budds Creek last year when he arrogantly announced (like he knew what he was talking about) that Davi Millsaps was the favorite to win the race. His assessment was that Millsaps would beat Chad Reed, Ryan Villopoto and Ryan Dungey. NOBODY that follows the sport with any regularity would have made such a stupid comment. And he continues to say stupid, unknowledgeable things every time he is on the air.
With that said, it seems that Scrub-This finds some way to turn any comment or topic into a Stewart screed. Using your perspective and tactics, let me say that I think that you may be a bit of a racist. Stewart has made plenty of mistakes during his career, both on and off the track, but such rabid attacks on him and his fans can't really be explained by anything he has done. It reeks of some deeper hatred. I kinda see you sitting at your computer in a white sheet and hood, pal.
As far as Dungey is concerned, I give him all the credit he deserves. In 2010, I was firmly in the asterisk camp. I felt the media hype was blown way out of proportion due to all the talent that was missing due to injury. However, his performance in the 2011 season completely changed my mind. It is clear that, had it not been for the mechanical issues at Freestone and Southwick, Dungey would have been the champion. His performance at Southwick was nothing short of legendary. I have the utmost respect for his talent and ability and I'm glad he's going to be the 2012 champion.
INJURIES ARE A WEAKNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RD HAS MISSED....WHAT... 6 RACES SINCE TURNING PRO?
I can't wait til the contracts state.....NO RACE , NO MONEY!!!
Bestwick is really bad but, to me, it's ironic that the thing that might finally get him off the air and out of our hair was the most accurate thing he's ever stated. I'm not even saying he SHOULD have said it exactly like he did, but I believe most fans understand and agree with the premiss..
RD5 is on his way...he doesn't shy away from anyone and hes a monster the last part of a moto...the bike is clearly getting better and he's gonna be here awhile ...that said when everyone returns and the young bloods move up he will have his hands full AND have the chance to truly separate himself ...in the record books and on the track , theres just a couple things that stand in the way the biggest being the current champ ...who you KNOW will return fully refreshed and and ready to play and will NOT go down easy... May the best man win....looking forward to some great racing...Reed , Canard , Havoc and Barcia possibly Wilson and KDub will make it tougher than its ever been....as always , time will tell.......
@ BD25
All the props to dungey on what has been said……He not there to win the popularity contest…… I wouldn’t win either !!!!!!!!!! but the biggest thing is his mental game on what he can control only…… like all other champs. There is info and data out there on Championship teams, Individual sport champ you name it from tennis to auto racing on mental psyche, about being more monotone, mellow kind of not getting to excited to high to low take it 1 moto in this case, one at a time, it has been a proven path to success of the champs….. While Roger D. , Ryan’s mechanics and Dungey are only focused. So many of the others are playing with the twitter thing and making videos.
I don’t even see as flamboyant as Hannah was in the day and the personality he was would be doing all this video stuff as well…… maybe not all the time,,,,,, LOL……..
He was all business I know Hannah as a younger kid about 8 years older than me, he was serious and training they were focused. You don’t think for a minute it was riding only, you would have to be stoned to think that ……. A lot of these kids that came to my house over all those years even the big pro’s were not out trying to jump cars and stupid stuff for videos, hard laps focus, intensity who cares about tweeting when they are having the next bowl movement and donut shop visit . That’s have the difference right there……….You only get what you put into it>>>>>>>>>>
MX BOB: I think I will come back in your honor as Mr-Manifesto, you can take all the props.......LOL I thought that was good on your part got a chuckle on that,as I choked on my sponge cake.......
I remember that on May 30th..... I believe if my memory is still with me thru all this rage that has been turned up lately and just gushing out like Mount Vesuvius, if you were still kinda on the fence as to who was the man in the 450 class post freestone national.
I think it has been pretty clear cut since June 2nd Thunder Valley not to say others are not trying.........I might be off base but I dont think so. Just wondering!!!!!!!!!
After you get through all the name calling and fact finding, you almost forget there was a simple article about a Professional Motocross Racer, and the stats he has piled up in a fairly short amount of time.
I read the article and the comments hours ago, but decided that I needed to go count to 20 billion before I made a comment.
Is there really a need for name calling, and all the drama over an article that talks about the 17 wins a pro motocross racers has accumulated in a few years time?
Also playing the race card is getting pretty worn out in these comment sections, once that gear and helmet go on each rider is a multi-colored roost machine.
I have been riding and racing dirt bikes since the mid seventies, and have always loved the sport of motocross and supercross. The modern day fan of the sport has not diminished my love of the sport, but it has saddened me. When I see the fanboys of one rider discounting the skills of another rider, simply because he doesn't excite you. Maybe its time to clue you in that its not all about YOU!
@ CrossRut Agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I stil think ther was more depth in the 80's racing and the stats were harder to achieve. Some of those guys you thought either one or had a shot at winning every week or were in the lead in any moto and theys new Gen kids have passed them bye......Amazing been around it 48 yrs never gets old just the crap coming from folks that couldnt hold a candle to there shorts if you know what I mean.....................Motocross has always been a hard way to make a living..........It also is a very cold business, tough nut to crack..........
I always was told by my father over 40 years ago “motocross isn’t a lifestyle, it’s a life, style is optional.
The last time I was really against a rider was back in the days of the 500cc U.S.G.P.
I HATED THE EUROS. That was the way my peers felt, and that mentality was praised.
Even though I wanted them going down in the worst way, I had beaucoup RESPECT for those guys, and so did all my friends. When I was in the pits, I wanted to see what they were doing that made them so awesome. I wanted their autograph, I wanted to know what tire they used, what pressure they ran it at, what pre-mix they ran, etc, etc. When I got back to the fence, I cheered for Lackey, Magoo, Glover and Sun.
Lackey HAD to have Decoster to be the racer he was. Bailey had to have Glover, Smith had to have Hannah, McGrath had to have Emig and I'm pretty sure Stewart had to have Reed.
Rivalries have been around for all time. How we behave towards our heroes and villians (of the sport) doesn't make one racer better than the other, it just shows our true selves. We don't want to be "soccer hooligans" do we?
Preston, thanks for the laugh. That was hysterical. Giving James the credit for Dungey's success staying with him..... I think RC has a LOT more to do with Dungey learning such things as work ethic, but still all the credit goes to Dungey for getting up and putting in the work each day.
Why do people get so MAD when others say RD has all them win's because others are out?? It's a FACT and there is nothing wrong with it, It's not RD's fault but it is what it is. Look at SX, of RD's win's in SX how many came when RV, CR and JS where on the line?? 2 or 3?? But when there not there he win's them all!! It's a fact. RV has many many win's when everyone is on the line tho. Outdoors RD is much better but still a lot of his win's have come with all the top guys not there. again it's NOT RD's fault but facts are facts. Untill he win's like that with all the others there people will talk about it weather it's fair or not.
FAIR is where you go to eat cotton candy and ride the ferris wheel. Go Dungey. What is most important is stay heathy and win races. Last I knew they never paid more or less for who was or was not in the Championship battle, nor did they list who was not there.
Love you guys, what Entertainment.
I don't think you can fairly say that Dungeys wins came because others were out with injury, you would have to say that they came WHILE others were out. Otherwise you have to start putting an asterisk next to Villipotos SX title this year. As was proven last year, you may not like Dungeys style but it keeps him in title hunts and if not for some bad luck he could have walked away with 2 titles against Villipoto,the guy that many are saying is the best out there right now.
NikolaTesla ....NOT the same, RV won 5 of the first 9 races with everyone there and was the fastest guy at like 8 of the 9 races coming up to 3rd after a firts turn crash and a firtst lap crash at another things few could have done. Also JS was the only former champ lined up at the Nats on a "new" bike and went 4-0 before he got hurt wile RV lined up with 3 former champs, RV had the points lead well into the year before anyone went out. Not baggen on RD at all he is one of the greats for sure but has done almost all of his winning wile others were out wile guys like RV win wile everyone is there so to me and many others that makes RV a better rider. I would bet a lot of money it bugs RD because you know he hears it and it has to bug him.
BillC People react that way because some times in the written word it can come off as a dig at their favorite rider...In my opinion Dungey, Villopoto, Reed and Stewart are on the same tier, the top of the class....In 2010 Poto was hurt, but Dunge had beaten him straight up in SX before the injury.. In 2011 Dungey won against Poto and Reed indoors and out, enough to be in the title hunt in two series, some say bad luck cost him both titles, but luck is part of winning. Just as in 2012 Poto had fewer races against his"tier peers" to take the title. It is not a knock on RV just fact...If I had to pick the winner of a race between all four RV would be my pick, followed by James...If I had to pick the winner of a series between them Dungey would be my pick followed by Reed...
Just because Certain riders are not on the line, you cant say they would have won if they were there, that would just be speculation...but...you can speculate when its bench racing and that's what this site is for and why it is so entertaining...So many different opinions and every one is entitled to one..even the ones we disagree with... some on this site take another disagreeing with them as a personal attack, when it is no more than their opinion and holds not more weight than there own....Kinda like congress if you dont agree with me then your wrong...no wonder nothing gets done with that attitude....
like they say..There are three sides to every story..Yours, Mine and what actually happened ...so true, since we all see things through different eyes and realities
So according to you Preston I'm a racist because I disagree with your delusional thoughts that Stewart made Dungey who he is today. You're not worth arguing with, your sole goal at all times is to ignore and chastise anything negative about JS and spin it into a racism rant, and to repeatedly talk up and give credit to your favorite rider regardless of circumstances. You seem to think over the top guys like Scrub This are a problem, well you're looking in the mirror because you're the exact same just at the opposite end of the spectrum. Now bust out your JS branded pom poms and lets hear how awesome he is once again.
Don't look now but, this thread is as long / longer than a JS posting. Does this mean he is as polarizing a personality?
Regarding Preston's statement about RD staying at JS' compound. How long did he stay after he started beating him? Or more to the point, how long was he WELCOME after he started beating him?
Regarding BillC's statement about everyone being out for RD's wins. It is as plausible to hypothosize that everyone else cannot maintain the pace required to beat Dungey for any length of time consistently.
@ 2003RACER8M, I'm not saying that contract isn't possible, I'm saying that contract will be with the team that has no decent racers. Injuries are so much a part of today's current pace that they HAVE to be incorporated into the projection at some level. Just like "the bigs" need their compounds, private tracks, motorcoach, trainer, nutritionist, man friend, etc to be expected to perform at the top level, so too must they anticipate the inevitible. Crash happens (when you're trying to keep up with Dungey. haha j/k).
Anybody seen my RD pom poms..............
@ Preston......We've gone here before, I'm far from racist whether you choose to believe it or not. You're the type of person that rallies outside a court house screaming racism when a minority gets a conviction, even when guilt is proven. Surely all white people who recognize a fault of someone of different color are racist. You might want to look at your own grammar before you call me out as low-IQ by the way, my credentials say I'm far from that actually. You're not the only person on this board that knows moto, there's people on here that know just as much, if not more, than you and about everyone, not just James Stewart. Your posts consistently display the same message, that you are the president of the JS fan club and it's been clear since the second you started posting on this site. I 'm suddenly remembering why I got over it and stopped coming here now....I'll be back when RD wraps this title up to see what excuses you can come up with for your favorite rider missing out on yet another title Preston, it should be entertaining. Crashing isn't an excuse for not winning titles.
hahaha Jesus this articles thread turned into a shitshow. I love it. @scrubthis sorry going to school and working at a shop is so frowned upon. I get anything i want at cost. I get to ride for free. I get my races paid for and im getting an education. Youre job must be so cush though. Sitting all day on racer x making an ass out of yourself. THE LIFE.
didn't Dungey win more races than Villopoto outdoors last year, even though RV won the championship? Maybe I am wrong, but I am pretty sure he did.
I noticed people are starting to throw around numbers comparing RDs stats to RCs at the beginning of his career. RD is fast no doubt but I don't think he's quite at RCs level compared to the competion. What seperated RC from the rest was the ability to have JS type speed AND stay upright. I think RD will have a hard time keeping his current winning percentage once RV comes back, and the current top 5 in the 250 class move up in the next year or two. Barcia has already proven he can ride a 450 and I think BB will tear it up as well.