by Adam Wheeler
Between the Motos: Tony Cairoli
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 | 4:00 PM
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At the halfway stage of the FIM MX1 Motocross World Championship reigning number one Tony Cairoli has his hands on half of the pie. The Red Bull KTM rider had won four of the eight Grand Prix's and eight of the sixteen motos. The champ for the previous three seasons has a forty-seven point (almost two motos) lead over Clement Desalle in the standings. Here the Sicilian chats after his latest success at Bastogne in Belgium.
Racer X: Tony I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ride as well as you have in the last few months. Apart from Brazil you been in contention every round and looking so threatening in what is a stacked class in ’12.
Tony Cairoli: I feel good, and like I said last week, I think I was riding a bit too comfortably and not pushing enough at the beginning of the motos. That had to change. Today was great and to be honest it feels like a long time since we’ve had a track like this…maybe two years! I loved the ruts, soft ground, the fast pace and the corners with a lot of lines that let you choose. It helps us, as racers, and I felt great out there; like I was on a 250. I could switch lines, cut, whip and do what I wanted. I managed two wins here in the house of Desalle and also in France for what was the other two guys’ home GP [Christophe Pourcel and Gautier Paulin] and I’m really happy. Belgium is a little bit like my second home and I have a lot of fans around here. It’s cool.
Cairoli has won eight of the sixteen motos motos thus far in 2012.
Ray Archer photo
If we ever see Cairoli race in the U.S., where will it happen?
Ray Archer photo
Racer X: Tony I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ride as well as you have in the last few months. Apart from Brazil you been in contention every round and looking so threatening in what is a stacked class in ’12.
Tony Cairoli: I feel good, and like I said last week, I think I was riding a bit too comfortably and not pushing enough at the beginning of the motos. That had to change. Today was great and to be honest it feels like a long time since we’ve had a track like this…maybe two years! I loved the ruts, soft ground, the fast pace and the corners with a lot of lines that let you choose. It helps us, as racers, and I felt great out there; like I was on a 250. I could switch lines, cut, whip and do what I wanted. I managed two wins here in the house of Desalle and also in France for what was the other two guys’ home GP [Christophe Pourcel and Gautier Paulin] and I’m really happy. Belgium is a little bit like my second home and I have a lot of fans around here. It’s cool.
Cairoli has won eight of the sixteen motos motos thus far in 2012.
Ray Archer photo
Is that 350SX-F a bit better for you this year compared to last?
Yeah, KTM is doing such a good job because the power of the bike has improved over 2011 and also the handling is much better and we have worked a lot on the frame. The first 350 I used was perhaps not so good for me in places but now it is almost perfect. I love it.
It seems you have threats from all corners in MX1 this year.
I really like this championship, and having so many strong riders out there this year. It makes me want to race every week. Last season there were some GPs where it was only Clement [Desalle] and I and this year there is a new atmosphere and more people around. Pourcel is back and I like racing against him. We had some good passes here and I respect him a lot.
The schedule is not easy but how realistic is it to see you out in America trying some of the Nationals? It has to be a big challenge just waiting for you.
I know…but the dates are really hard to make it happen. The championships finish at pretty much the same time and it’s a shame. It is risky trying it in the middle of our season. I’ve already spoken about it with KTM and for them its no problem but they also would love to win the world championship again. I hope someday I can find the right race to be able to go because I’d love to have a go at those tracks. I felt that today at Bastogne it was like a National because there were not many bumps and ruts but it was fast.
If we ever see Cairoli race in the U.S., where will it happen?
Ray Archer photo
Does watching the coverage of the Nationals make you want to try it?
Yeah, the tracks are maybe less bumpy than ours but they seem to carry more possibilities to pass and the ground is ripped and the jumps are nicely prepared. It is fun to watch them.
What about the SX/MX Monster Cup? Would you like to try it?
I don’t know. Last year the track looked okay and it had a good motocross element. I struggle a bit with supercross. I rode it a lot last year and I wasn’t so bad but I wouldn’t want to go to Vegas just to make up the top ten, that wouldn’t be my goal. It would be a nice opportunity and I’d like to see what plans they have for the track in October. I imagine everybody is going full gas and pretty aggressive to grab the money so it is also a race where you want to be careful. I haven’t been invited to go anyway!
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While Toni is a rare talent indeed, it does keep the mistique alive if the best european riders don't come over and race. Great racers rise above, but a one race deal doesn't really give a great racer much time to adapt. At a minimum, they will be racing on a new track to them against guys that have a different story they can recount about each corner.
The Des Nations is when real racers can come and be measured against each other on a nominally level playing field. The Des Nations is the ultimate yardstick for the soul racer - no real money, no real title, no real reason to hang it out other than you are the best your country can send, but are you really the best in the world? The MX1 and MX2 overall winner is the true WORLD champions in my dumb little book.
Why don't our best go over there for a season? ah thats right because it isn't easy whatever way you go. The only Factory with solid progrms in both countries is KTM, And that is only because they hired Dungey this year. I guess ProCircuit would be 2nd.
Who needs goggles when you have those sungalsses ?? Holy moly man... I'm surpised those don't have windshield wipers on them.
@Not4show,, thats because KTM is the only factory right now that has money.
KTM builds bikes that the old lazy guys can ride, who know they are past their prime but still love to ride.
More guys ride offroad than track, and for that KTM has been the benchmark for quite a few years, Plus the number of bikes that are available to suit different riders is huge.
I big bonus for KTM I think was when they went to the electric start on the 250sx-f, now if a guy goes down, he can get the bike started without all the extra effort, especially if its late in a moto when the bike is super hot and on an off camber slope.
Wish AC222 would come here. I'd like to see the 350 race against the best US guys for a year and see how it would do. I bet he would finish a lot better than Short or Alessi ever did. But Musquin and Roczen hace already shown that the 350 is no slouch in SX. They have both done well on it.
"I felt that today at Bastogne it was like a National because there were not many bumps and ruts but it was fast." Not sure which nationals he's watching.
Goggles? You wouldn't even need a windshield in your car with those sunglasses.
^^ seriously, no bumps and ruts? i mean i knew your teeth were jacked up but apparently your eyes are too.
I wonder if he'll ever take a spin on the new 450? Competing, and winning, against all the others with a 100cc handicap says a lot about A.C.'s skills. The guy is definitely for real. That has to be demoralizing to the 450 guys to keep getting waxed by the little engine that could.
The best riders in the world race in the American motocross nationals and he is too scared to come over here and prove how good he is. Thats why we can send over our 2nd tier riders and still win the des nations year after year. Pourcel tried it and coudnt hang and he is winning motos in Europe. Dungey or Villapoto would dominate over there just like they do here. And to say the tracks in Europe are rougher is just a joke and he is taking a jab at American motocross by saying that but wont show up to back up all the talk.
@ronniebarnhardt "Pourcel tried it and couldn´t hang". Either you don´t understand jack about motocross or you´re just plain stupid. Pourcel was the best lites MX rider in the US for two years in a row (besides being lites SX champion). Dungey had nothing for him and only won the title because of his consistency and Pourcel´s bike giving up. Pourcel had to deal with stupid fans booing at him at every round just to make feel him like the "visit" while the golden boys felt at home at each round. Is that fair competition ?. And I don´t remember an american rider winning the GP title in a long, long time.
Jean-René-Helmut de la Rapapopoulos, Thunder Valley is an American track where Dungey race each year. Also it´s a track where CC´s difference really count. And if you move Dungey outside the US what happens ?. Roczen beat him on a 250cc. You see there´s two sides of each coin.
Thats funny @ ronniebarn, you know at the MXDN last year CR22 and KROC beat RD5 in Moto 1 and G Paulin and Herlings beat RV in Moto 2. Guess what they are not American.
I root for team US because Canada is too sad to send a Team, right Matthes?
But to think that not anyone could win a Moto at any given time on ANY SOIL, you must be a typical Douche and belong on Jersey Shore or something. I can just picture you and your douche friends pumping your fists in the air repeatedly when they got the overall.
"The situation" is that Guys like reed, wilson, bt101, CP(although a whiney baby) Roczen, Musquin, Langston, JMB and so on all came over here and WON MOTOS.
Now Canadian riders.... thats a whole different story... come on CT160! The great white hope.
sorry maybe not Musquin, but he got on podiums....
Even TC has haters .... Apparently, this must be the price he pays for being a multi-time World Champion.
As far as the AMA and FIM, since they are separate, it can be argued that the Des Nations is the only thing close to a 'global' competition. It will be interesting to see how the USA does this year. So far, so good!!!!
I wish the MXGP was more like the MotoGP. ALL the WORLDS TOP riders, competing at the WORLDS BEST tracks.
MXdN type motos with mixed classes would be cool, top 20 250 and top 20 450 in the world lined up on the same gate at the same time................ Could bet your balls we would NEVER end up with runaway 1-horse races like we see in AMA Nat and MXGP now!
I always thought calling the MXGP Champ the World Champ is like the World Series of Baseball being played by Americans in America.
I bet if he was racing this season he would get Top 3 if Alessi is getting 2nds all the top he would at least be getting 2nd not sure about him and Dungy... I remember couple years ago he beat Alessi at Glen Helen which is pretty much Alessis backyard and he did being stuck in 3rd gear half the moto and then ran away from him in the 2nd moto
hey JR HELMET,
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/74747/Motorcycle-Photo-Gallery-Photo/2011-Motocross-des-Nations.aspx
celebration after beating up on RV
MX1 + MX2 Motocross des Nations Results:
1. Chad Reed, AUS (Honda)
2. Ken Roczen, GER (KTM)
3. Ryan Dungey, USA (Suzuki)
Ryan Dungey was passed in Race 2 by Ken Roczen. PASSED
MX2 + Open Class Motocross des Nations Results:
1. Gautier Paulin, FRA (Yamaha)
2. Jeffrey Herlings, NED (KTM)
3. Ryan Villopoto, USA (Kawasaki)
4. Ken Roczen, GER (KTM)
Frenchman Gautier Paulin was cheered on by his home crowd after winning the second moto of the day. Herlings was 16 I believe. LOL. Dont care where you are, RV should scholl 16 year olds...
i'm going to bed, don't have time to wait for your pro us response. Keep digging, it will come.
@Elda....where do you see Poucels name on this list? oh sorry, its not on this list which means he didnt accomplish crap in American motocross
Rider
2011
K Dean WILSON (USA), Kawasaki KX250F
2010
H Trey CANARD (USA), Honda CRF250
2009
S Ryan DUNGEY (USA), Suzuki RMZ250
2008
K Ryan VILLOPOTO (USA), Kawasaki KX250F
2007
K Ryan VILLOPOTO (USA), Kawasaki KX250F
2006
K Ryan VILLOPOTO (USA), Kawasaki KX250F
2005
K Ivan TEDESCO (USA), Kawasaki KX250F
2004
K James STEWART (USA), Kawasaki KX125 & KX250F
2003
K Grant LANGSTON (SAF), KTM 125SX
2002
K James STEWART (USA), Kawasaki KX125
2001
K Mike BROWN (USA), Kawasaki KX125
2000
S Travis PASTRANA (USA), Suzuki RM125
1999
K Ricky CARMICHAEL (USA), Kawasaki KX125
1998
K Ricky CARMICHAEL (USA), Kawasaki KX125
1997
K Ricky CARMICHAEL (USA), Kawasaki KX125
1996
H Steve LAMSON (USA), Honda CR125
1995
H Steve LAMSON (USA), Honda CR125
1994
H Doug HENRY (USA), Honda CR125
1993
H Doug HENRY (USA), Honda CR125
1992
Y Jeff EMIG (USA), Yamaha YZ125
1991
K Mike KIEDROWSKI (USA), Kawasaki KX125
1990
S Guy COOPER (USA), Suzuki RM125
1989
H Mike KIEDROWSKI (USA), Honda CR125
1988
H George HOLLAND (USA), Honda CR125
1987
H Micky DYMOND (USA), Honda CR125
1986
H Micky DYMOND (USA), Honda CR125
1985
H Ron LECHIEN (USA), Honda CR125
1984
K Jeff WARD (USA), Kawasaki KX125
1983
H Johnny O'MARA (USA), Honda CR125
1982
S Mark BARNETT (USA), Suzuki RM125
1981
S Mark BARNETT (USA), Suzuki RM125
1980
S Mark BARNETT (USA), Suzuki RM125
1979
Y Broc GLOVER (USA), Yamaha 125
1978
Y Broc GLOVER (USA), Yamaha 125
1977
Y Broc GLOVER (USA), Yamaha 125
1976
Y Bob HANNAH (USA), Yamaha 125
1975
H Marty SMITH (USA), Honda 125
1974
H Marty SMITH (USA), Honda 125
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As a matter of fact, I only see one non-American rider on this list (Dean Wilson doesnt count, he's not even sure what he is) and after this year there will still only be one non-American rider on this list. If Roczen is so bad-ass why does he not even have one outdoor moto win EVER?? What would Bagget or Barcia or Tomac do to the field of GP riders if the last two MX2 champions cant even win a moto over here?
Great ride by K-Roc at last year's des Nations, but passing Dungey happened in a downpour while Roczen had nothing to lose and Dungey was responsible for not messing up the American victory. Thinking Kenny is faster than Dunge based on that is ludicrous. Also, that race is almost always held on GP tracks, which gives an advantage to the Euros, and likewise favors the Americans when held here. So while MXdN is a great one-day event, it cannot be used to determine "the fastest man on the planet."
And no American has one a GP title in a long time cause any American capable of finishing in the top 10 here doesnt care about the GP's. How many titles could Carmicael have one in Europe? Remember when he whooped Everts ass at the MXdn? Isnt Everts supposed to be the best Euro rider ever?
@Mr-Mx....what is your point? so the list I copied was a little off, it still means Pourcel never won an american motocross championship, which was the point I was making...do you have another website that you suggest i view that shows Pourcel winning an american motocross championship? probably not cause it has never happened
Rapapolus: you ask respect to the riders when you are the first to insult them? I am wondering if you are even able to start a dirt bike, how can a louse like you call a rider with disrespectful terms? You're the first coward, since you criticize every country but you are ashamed to say where you are from and this says it all. CHICKEN!
Why is there so much hate on European riders? Why not just be happy that you can watch both series and get even more racing to watch! Thought people here liked motocross.
As far wich series is the best goes you can´t really tell. Yes probably America, thats why alot of Europeans like to go there. And you can earn alot more money. But can´t really tell. Yes American riders probaly are better and has won alot of Des Nations. But there is a diference. Supercross is not as big in Europe. And the riders don´t really have the posibility to ride and train supercross. And supercross really better you´r skills on a bike I belive. In Europe Motocross is the main sport of motocross and supercross not so much.
Alot of europeans go over to America to race. And it´s not easy. The seene is totaly diffrent. The tracks, the layout, the souroundings. Eaven the weather. It´s still Motocross, but still different. And it´s mainly Europenas that comes to america. But would be really cool to see good American rider try MXGP. Once can only speculate how it would go. I´m sure they would do good. But i don´t think it will be as easy as some of the comment above think it is. It´s a really different for them to come to Europe to race to on new tracks they nevere ridden before, the humidity and the layout of the track. The fact is no one knos for sure.
Don´´t get me wrong i like them both. But according to some it would be a walk inte park for Americans in Europe. Just feels funny to me that no one would like to just go over there and just bring the championchip home.
I get the impression that most of the Euro bashers actually follow the races very little. Also Americans are know all over the world for their arrogance, this just proves to me it follows over into sports too.
I don't think we have to generalize here, most American fans are true sport people and know it all about motocross. There are just some dumb people, particularly one here, who can't even write and speak English and who is such a coward to continuously refusing to say from what country he is from, who think to be the wise men by talking crap all the way and repeating the same stupid words over and over. Do you have a problem about the GP's? Avoid them. Do you just like SX and MX National? Ok, no problem with that, I mean, it's like seeing a group of babies who are arguing about which bicylcle looks better than the other one.
Does watching the coverage of the Nationals make you want to try it?
Yeah, the tracks are maybe less bumpy than ours but they seem to carry more possibilities to pass and the ground is ripped and the jumps are nicely prepared. It is fun to watch them.
You take that answer how you want but to me that's as arrogant as it gets. Its pretty simple. If you dont win a championship in the states you will not get the respect of the entire world of motocross. If he came over here and beat our guys then I would have to eat my words but we all know thats not gonna happen.
That's your opinion, which can deserve respect, you explained it politely. Probably there are some people who don't think about it the same as you do and I think they deserve respect, too.
I can tell all of you that Cairoli has always talked very well about the US riders and the American scene, if you think he was arrogant I assure you he didn't mean to be like that. All the rest is crap that came out of some mouth just to light the fire.
Cairoli does seem to be a pretty good guy and respectfull of the US riders (and he has a smokin hot wife!!) I would think aftrer winning so many World Championships, though, that he would want to come race in america and truley prove himself and take away any doubt. Lets face it Reed, Wilson,Roczen, Rattray,Metcalf they are pretty much Americans at this point. They came here because they know you are not the best until you win here.
You guys see the Vid of RV? Said he is thinking of doing the GP's in 3 years maybe.
@Mr-Mx
You cant read...I clearly stated american MOTOCROSS titles...in case you didnt know, supercross and motocross are not the same thing. Pay a little more attention before you try to tell me Im wrong, and its rephrase not refraze if you want to get technical.
Also just like everyone says about RD's DNF last year you caould say CP's DNF at Southwick is why RD won that 250 title over CP. Then the Next Year CP had it again and broke his arm at the last race so I would say he has done a few things here.
Nobody cares what you say and besides, when you look at lists of past champions, is there an asterisk next to Dungey and Canards Lites championships that says (Pourcel would have one if...) No cause all that matters is who won and 20 years from now it will still be all that matters.
There is no true measuring stick to compare the euros to the U.S. racers at this time. MXdN is a TEAM sport and that's very unique to moto-racers.
There's no arguing that a LOT of talent comes from across the pond though....
@ BillC agreed. C.P.'s SX E titles looked effortless and the MX side was (almost) title-worthy.......then he had a meltdown...
@ ronniebarnhardt, since we've been awarding points the same for quite some time now and the series is relatively stabilized, counting series points is a good way to establish who's putting up the good finishes.
While I might be one of the biggest pro-U.S. racer fans on this site and I'm paticularly critical of Frenchmen, I give C.P. his props. He's looked slow when going REALLY fast which, is freakin' hard to do and seems to be a specialty of the French racers.
I'm not saying you have to like, respect or cheer for him, I'm just saying it made the people that beat him better racers in the long run.
I never said he wasnt an amazing rider, I was simply arguing with a previous statement that said he was the best Lites mx rider in the US for two years in a row. I am saying that to be the best you have to win championships, which he did not in MX.
Until you Europeans win a MX nations title some time in the next 20 years come and talk how good you are until then just race for second place like always.
Who else thinks Tony is a perfect match for Erin Bates?
For sure it's not for you
It would be nice to pick three riders from your State and three riders from, let's say, France, and see who will win the battle. (I just said France because it has the best riders in the MX1).
Italy is 3/4 of California and its riders are against USA in the MXDS and they are even pretty good, except for the MX2 guy.
I totally agree, many American riders I guess would like accomplish half of what CP did on US soil.
Can you name the 2nd place overall finisher in the last 20 years of 125 or Lites MX Nationals without looking it up on the computer? Hell no you cant. And if you say you can you are lying.
And yes I am biased towards Americans cause I live in America, the greatest country in the world!!!
Yes man, how happy you must be, you achieved your goal when you were born..
http://www.motocrossmx1.com/?type=News&newsID=2893
check it out! From a rider who raced both championships
That is true. I'll go one further and say that after the Monster Kawi deal for him in the U.S. fell through, he had a sort of meltdown.
We'll never know the #'s but, I too would've been upset that Kawi didn't make me an acceptable* offer after 2 SX E titles and 2 MX runner-ups.....and looking good on the 450.
I bagged on him pretty heavily while this was happening and especially after the MotoConcepts deal but, to his credit, he's bounced back and is having a title-worthy run at another championship.
If he were here this year (or last) running among the "fast five", where do you suppose he'd be points wise? I'm thinking right around the middle but, I've been wrong about stuff before.
http://www.motocrossmx1.com/?type=News&newsID=2893
check it out! From a rider who raced both championships
LOL coming from a rider that cant win in either championship
I guess this year will be a great measuring stick due to the unique track in Lomel. So if USA wins are you all gonna admit we are better? According to all you Euros Cairolli and Herlings should win every moto they are in. Or if we win will it be because we race at Southwick every year. Im sure you all will be full of excuses.
The GP's race in how many countries and continents in how many weeks? That is why they can call themselves WORLD CHAMPIONS. the AMA racing series has the most money, that is why americans don't go race the GP's. How successful was Chad Reed racing GP's? For all the Stewart lovers who swore up and down that it was the bike, but when Pourcel complained about the Yamaha they told him to quit whining nothing is wrong with it.
When the GP's came to Glen Helen a couple years back, where were all the "TOP" American riders at? Oh thats right, a race on home soil and they didn't show up because it was an off weekend and they didn't want to take the chace of getting hurt. So don't get mad at Cairoli for doing the same thing. Manufacturer titiles is Huge bragging($$$$$$) rights and not something factories take a chance with.
Roczen has won multiple supercross races and is barely 18 and will be on the top step of the podium before to long MX. I also see him winning this years title. I expect to see roczen on the 350 full time in 2014. Don't be suprised if he podiums with it next year doing a fill in ride keeping in race trim for whatever series he rides West/East. Wait until Herlings comes over in 2014 and decimates the 250 class. The Talent pool isn't very deep right now and the upcoming American prospects are not at his level.
ronniebarnhardt@
It is great to be a proud American, but to be an obnoxious arrogant American, makes the rest of us proud Americans look bad.
There are 15 riders in the WORLD that if lined up together you don't know who would win on a given day.
No particular order: open class: AC222, Dungey, Stewart, Reed, Pourcel, Villopoto, Canard, Desalle, paulin. 250Class: Barcia, Tomac, wilson, Baggett, Herlings, Roczen,
Mr. 2nd place? Haha! Windham, Windham, Windham, Windham..........j/k.
I used to know those numbers / names but, now my head is full of building code.........what a waste!
I'll try
1992: 1 Emig / 2 LaRocco
1993: 1 Henry / 2 Emig
1994: 1 Henry / 2 Hughes
1995: 1 Lamson / 2 Hughes
1996: 1 Lamson / 2 Windham
1997: 1 RC / 2 Windham
98: 1 RC / 2 Vohland
99: 1 RC / 2 Dowd
2000: 1 T.P. / 2 Roncada
2001: 1 Brown / 2 Vohland
02: 1 Stewart / 2 Jessman
03: 1 Langston / 2 Hughes
04: 1 Stewart / 2 Hepler
05: 1 Tedesco / 2 Alessi
06: 1 RV / 2 Langston
07: 1 RV / 2 Townley
08: 1 RV / 2 Canard
09: 1 Dungey / 2 C.P.
10: 1 Canard / 2 C.P.
11: 1 Wison / 2 Rattray
That's off the top.......some were straight up guesses.
@Not4show,
WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!! Roczen winning the 250 MX Title this year? YOU MUST BE CRAZY!! I really like Kenny but he has proven, just about every moto of every round this year, that he just doesn't have (yet) what it takes to ride balls-out for 30 +2. When you are run-down in the 2nd half after having a 9-10 second lead and then gaped by 15-20 seconds at the finish (see Budds Creek Moto 2 as the latest example), you're not at the top of your game. I guarantee if that had been BB, ET, or JB in his position, there would have been an all-out dog fight to the finish line jump and checkered. But, Kenny was so deflated by this latest "incident" that he just gave up and settled for 2nd. That will not win you the 250 MX Title this year, or any other year for that matter.
As for your comment on a shallow talent pool of Amateur prospects, you should do a little research on the riders already signed with PC and FC for Pro deals while still Amateur's...it is probably safe to say that the up-and-coming "talent" is stronger than it has ever been.
Anyone that takes anything said on this forum personally or seriously needs to sit back, take a deep breath, and learn to have some fun with this whole internet forum thing. Some of you guys are getting mad at a guy like me who in reality doesnt even exist. Im just some fat ass internet expert who has too much time on his hands at work and yes, I am a C level rider and I get 5th place holeshots every moto.
I like Herlings but I really doubt he can do what Roczen has been doing in the USA.
Ronnie, no problem dude, all is good, I got it, "fat ass internet expert", that's way funny...
When Cairoli lines up against the best the world can bring this year at Lommel, He will beat the best. Only american with a shot will be stewart, don't like him much, but he rides the highline best WFO.
The only one who will have anything for herlings will be if Baggett rides MX2, he is the only 250 rider that can rail the outside like you need to there. If not Herlings Roczen then american ride.
Roczen is more consistant than The other 3, and his off weekends still have kept him 3rd. Yes, he has been oh so close to 3 moto wins and has basically tossed them away. But he will get it, and less than 1 motos worth of points out of the red plate once he gets that first win next weekend, Baggett better watch out.
Not4show - "Wait until Herlings comes over in 2014 and decimates the 250 class." ya, and i remember you and everyone else saying the same thing about Roczen. You make all the predictions, then you are no where to be found when the results are in. To be crystal clear, the US Nationals are where the top talent in world are racing. A long time ago, it was in Europe with the GP's, but today, it is in the US.
Tell Um Mustard breath
@ ronniebarnhardt
Anything but Factual ronnie blowhart Baby your a punk cop in La
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yMnbmN8m5M
really blowhard all that matters is ac's chick is hotter than yours. jill cox google it
Actually I never said Roczen would dessimate the comp. But he is hanging right there isn't he? in his 1st year of MX in the US at 18yo.
Barcias 4th year in MX and he is still inconsistent, Tomacs 3rd Year, and this is the first time either were a factor in the championship. Baggett, well we saw how he rides(3rd year). His first year of consistant rides.
So I'll take Roczen all day long, he has gotten better and has strong 2nd motos, he will get over the mental problems of the last 3 laps, his fitness is no issue.
oh and by the way, Herlings is a better rider and I think he is just 17.
Now Cairoli can run with the AMA top 5 all day long, win some lose its how it works, I think pourcel could come back to the US and be a factor also
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I don't disagree that the best riders in the world are in the US, but you also have to admit not all of them are american. In the MX2 GP's you have 1 guy who is head and shoulders above everyone else in Herlings and he would do quite well in the US if he fills Musquins spot in 2014 as an MX rider. I don't think 2014 and 2015 US MX talent will have anyone ho can beat him week in and week out. SX he will only be a top 5 guy.the 1st year, challenge for title 2nd. Title contender 1st year of MX. I think KTM will learn from Roczen's transition to american racing on how to bring over guys, so that their success level isn't hampered by the move.
for MX1 there are 2 riders who could ride in the US and be successful, AC222 and pourcel(oh wait pourcel has already been successful here).
I'm quite OCD with watching up and coming riders. and for the next 3 years there is no one that is at the level of the top 5 250 riders right now. Yes there are guys in the pipe line who IF stay injury free can be there. but not to many and I see there peak around Musquins level, solid top 5 and a podium on a great day.
I find it interesting that Not4show points out the years of experience that U.S. riders have, and then speaks of Roczen as if he is a pure rookie. Didn't he compete in the "world" championships for most of three seasons prior to 2012? How, then, can you insinuate that he has less experience than the other riders? Likewise, you want to compare Herlings, after two more years of GP competition, to riders who are still running the amateurs in America right now. While I'll readily admit that some of the others on here are overly biased toward U.S.-based riders, your manipulation of the facts points toward your bias in the other direction.
As for your "15 riders in the WORLD" lining up together, Pourcel, DeSalle and Paulin would NEVER win that race unless ALL the others had difficulties, and I don't believe Cairoli would win often without some luck. I believe the only time he’s beaten Dungey "straight up" was in Dungey's very first profession moto on a 450 and/or outside the U.S. Since then, not so much.
I follow and respect MXGP, and have done so for close to 40 years (still have my '72 Dirt Bike magazines), but honestly, it is my opinion that Americans have been on top overall since that Trophée des Nations victory in '81 at, yes, Lommel.
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