by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: Freestone
Wednesday, May 30, 2012 | 9:30 AM
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PrintIt’s quickly become apparent in the early stages of the 2012 Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championship that James Stewart and Ryan Dungey are a cut above the rest. The two have established themselves as the alpha males of the 450 Class leaving only the hopes of a third place finish in their wake.
Freestone further solidified the gap between Stewart, Dungey and the rest. The dynamic duo was able to distance themselves from the field with a blistering, yet smooth, pace. Using a combination of precise lines and poise under pressure, Stewart held off a stringent charge from Dungey in both motos, bringing his record to a perfect 4-0 in the early stages of the season. Another great ride from MotoConcepts’ Mike Alessi was smothered under the Dungey/Stewart headlines, but Alessi was right there to pick up the pieces if Stewart or Dungey were to falter. He scored his second-consecutive overall podium finish.
Redemption was the name of the game in the 250 Class. Both Eli Tomac and Blake Baggett have faltered in the Lone Star State before, one with heat related problems (Tomac), the other with crashes (Baggett), but each left a positive imprint in their wake with 1-2 finishes Saturday. Ken Roczen continues get his American wings under him capturing his second consecutive podium behind Tomac and Baggett.
450 Class
Moto 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:04.380 | 16 | 2:06.246 | James Stewart |
| 2 | 2 | 2:04.419 | 16 | 2:06.263 | Ryan Dungey |
| 3 | 3 | 2:06.306 | 4 | 2:07.790 | Jake Weimer |
| 4 | 13 | 2:06.433 | 16 | 2:10.250 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 5 | 4 | 2:06.837 | 3 | 2:08.670 | Nico Izzi |
| 6 | 7 | 2:06.917 | 17 | 2:08.676 | Broc Tickle |
| 7 | 5 | 2:07.033 | 6 | 2:08.842 | Mike Alessi |
| 8 |
8 | 2:07.075 | 6 | 2:09.538 | Ryan Sipes |
| 9 | 6 | 2:07.188 | 2 | 2:09.008 | Josh Grant |
| 10 | 9 | 2:07.758 | 4 | 2:10.184 | Tommy Hahn |
Moto 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:04.642 | 15 | 2:06.566 | James Stewart |
| 2 | 2 | 2:05.060 | 16 | 2:06.577 | Ryan Dungey |
| 3 | 3 | 2:07.513 | 2 | 2:10.780 | Mike Alessi |
| 4 | 25 | 2:08.621 | 5 | 2:17.975 | Nico Izzi |
| 5 | 5 | 2:08.935 | 5 | 2:11.462 | Andrew Short |
| 6 | 4 | 2:09.135 | 7 | 2:10.900 | Josh Grant |
| 7 | 6 | 2:09.366 | 10 | 2:10.718 | Jake Weimer |
| 8 |
7 | 2:09.414 | 3 | 2:12.109 | Tommy Hahn |
| 9 | 9 | 2:09.647 | 6 | 2:12.206 | Derek Anderson |
| 10 | 17 | 2:09.805 | 7 | 2:14.327 | Ryan Sipes |
The pace Stewart and Dungey set at Freestone was remarkable. A matchup featuring the precise Dungey and the unflappable Stewart brought an unmatched level of anticipation and excitement to Freestone County Raceway. It’s easy to preach about the speed the pair laid down at Freestone but when the unreal lap times further help define your point, it’s elementary my dear Watson.
Not only were their fastest laps two (first moto) and three (second moto) seconds faster than the next closest competitor, their average lap times eclipsed the fastest lap set by anyone else! That's just an unreal statistic that we will further examine later in this weeks Bench Racing Ammo. The two also set their fastest laps on lap 16 and 15… in both motos!
Stewart set the fastest lap in both motos at Freestone.
Simon Cudby photo
250 Class
Moto 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:04.067 | 7 | 2:06.080 | Eli Tomac |
| 2 | 2 | 2:04.141 | 12 | 2:06.623 | Blake Baggett |
| 3 | 4 | 2:05.551 | 4 | 2:07.345 | Justin Barcia |
| 4 |
3 | 2:06.202 | 5 | 2:07.794 | Ken Roczen |
| 5 | 7 | 2:06.208 | 2 | 2:10.046 | Jessy Nelson |
| 6 |
5 | 2:06.867 | 3 | 2:08.974 | Marvin Musquin |
| 7 | 12 | 2:07.075 | 4 | 2:10.334 | Wil Hahn |
| 8 | 34 | 2:07.634 | 4 | 2:10.216 | Phil Nicoletti |
| 9 | 8 | 2:08.741 | 5 | 2:10.334 | Jake Canada |
| 10 | 11 | 2:08.808 | 7 | 2:10.678 | Ivan Tedesco |
Moto 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:06.329 | 9 | 2:08.613 | Eli Tomac |
| 2 | 2 | 2:07.329 | 9 | 2:08.980 | Blake Baggett |
| 3 | 4 | 2:07.531 | 6 | 2:10.413 | Ken Roczen |
| 4 | 7 | 2:07.993 | 4 | 2:11.790 | Jason Anderson |
| 5 | 5 | 2:08.005 | 4 | 2:10.597 | Justin Barcia |
| 6 | 3 | 2:08.127 | 11 | 2:10.242 | Blake Wharton |
| 7 |
8 | 2:09.334 | 6 | 2:11.805 | Marvin Musquin |
| 8 |
6 | 2:10.007 | 2 | 2:11.723 | Wil Hahn |
| 9 |
9 | 2:10.440 | 3 | 2:12.771 | Jessy Nelson |
| 10 |
14 | 2:11.019 | 6 | 2:15.275 | Jake Canada |
Not to be outdone by their 450 counterparts, Eli Tomac and Blake Baggett also threw down the gauntlet in Texas. Only four riders dipped into the 2:04 range; Stewart, Dungey and the 250 duo of Tomac and Baggett. What makes this stat even more impressive is that Tomac and Baggett were running the same pace as Stewart and Dungey on a much more rutted, tougher track.
The resurrection of Jason Anderson continues. A hard crash would derail the New Mexico native in the first moto, but the third fastest qualifier in practice turned on the jets once again in moto two. Engaged in an intense battle with Blake Baggett and Ken Roczen throughout the moto didn’t hinder Anderson’s lap times, as the Rockstar Energy Racing Suzuki rider was able to set the fourth fastest lap of moto two en route to a seventh place finish. As Anderson continues to adjust to the pace that is being set up front look for him to start making a run at some podiums.
Tomac set the fastest laps in both motos en route to a 1-1 finish.
Simon Cudby photo
WMX Class
Moto 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:22.082 | 6 | 2:23.072 | Jessica Patterson |
| 2 | 2 | 2:23.273 | 3 | 2:25.512 | Ashley Fiolek |
| 3 | 3 | 2:23.893 | 3 | 2:26.181 | Meghan Rutledge |
| 4 | 7 | 2:23.901 | 3 | 2:31.653 | Tarah Gieger |
| 5 | 4 | 2:25.609 | 4 | 2:27.576 | Kasie Creson |
Moto 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 2 | 2:19.334 | 8 | 2:22.499 | Jessica Patterson |
| 2 | 1 | 2:21.269 | 3 | 2:22.866 | Ashley Fiolek |
| 3 | 3 | 2:21.421 | 8 | 2:23.270 | Meghan Rutledge |
| 4 | 4 | 2:25.034 | 6 | 2:26.792 | Tarah Gieger |
| 5 | 5 | 2:25.330 | 5 | 2:27.017 |
Sayaka Kaneshiro |
Jessica Patterson has had her share of bad luck at Freestone before, such as last year when she bumped into the back of Ashley Fiolek while battling for the lead, crashed and lost a ton of all-too valuable championship points. This year, she obviously brought the speed to Texas, setting the fastest time in both motos, but a crash early in moto two set her back. This time, she was at least able to salvage second in the race for second overall.
But Fiolek, despite food poisioning, rode steady and took the overall--and her laps were right in the hunt despite the illness. These girls are tough!
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It was not as hot in Freestone as last year they say, but it was hot! The effort of James and Ryan was unblieveable. Fast laps on the 15-16. Seldom have we seen a rider stick to Stewarts rear fender when James was on the gas..Give credit Dungey, he matched James's speed all day while eating alot of roost! Seldom do you see a rider not crack under the relentless pressure Ryan applied on each lap, but James never wavered. Jedi like mind control! .We are in for a treat watching these two this year. The JS will have to use all his experance and speed to keep RD behind him all year long. If he can do that, he will bask in a well deserved championship! Meanwhile, Ryan will be soaking it all in, learning and getting faster! The great racing of 2012 is going to make 2013 an epic year in racing!
Tom Terrific is what Eli was at Freestone...he looked like he has matured and was ready for the big boy class as he moved thru the riders to take the lead and continue his pace to the end. Baggett made alot of fans with his leap into the 12 pack..was awesome to watch him soar, but you could feel the ground shake when he slightly over jumped it...not sure it gained alot of time but impressive it was..hats off to the KTM rider,Tapia for doing it 2-3 times also..
I guess that puts that to rest, JS and RD both dropped the hammer the last two laps and JS was faster. Good battle!!
@BillC,, It sure does.. I guess a few of the posters on here that said JS could not ride a rough track and he wasnt in shape are wrong again. Funny how most of the "JS haters" have styed away for the last few weeks.
Saying Tomac and Baggett ran similar lap times to Stewart and Dungey on a rougher track isn't quite accurate. The track was over watered the first moto and Stewart said it got much better towards the end as evidenced by his and Dungey's fastest laps being at the very end. The lack of elevation changes helped the 250s post similar lap times as well.
What's really funny is how the term 'Haters' will never just go away......I'm not his number one fan nor do I dislike him....I have great respect for his abilities and love watching him ride but if anyone dare say anything remotely negative about him they are labeled a hater or racist......say the same of any other racer and it's just bench racing??? Getting a little tiresome really.
What happened to BW956 he had a great second moto and he didn't make the top ten?
I'm not fan of JS but I think it's great he is racing the outdoors, and not crashing!!!!!!!!!!!! And I would still think it was great if he can in 5th every race.
I like whats happening out there, good clean racing.
Maybe i'll be his fan!
@Ripdown ,,, I've heard some on here that say things could could easily put them in the "hater" category.
the 1st paragraph says it all, reminds me of the " JMG vs Fro" days everyone else hopes for a distant 3rd... 1995- 96
@mx40 good point..
Stewart is very smart.He is in a savy spin doctor mode right now.I think that he could of pulled away from Dungey anytime that he wanted.He has had people hating on him all year.Now everyone is happy that he is riding and winning in the great outdoors.I think that he is trying to keep the races close so that the fans don't get bored and start hatin on him again.If he keeps the races close and gives humble post race interviews he picks up a ton of previously hating fans.A prime example of this is that there has been almost zero bad mouthing of JS7 for the past two weeks.James stewart is way smarter than people give him credit for.I'm pretty sure that he could of run off from Dungy anytime he wanted.It was pretty obvious that he could just sprint away anytime that he wanted.
Ripdown It's the same for all, I have been called an RD hater and it's not true. But some people do really hate JS, There is no question. And Like mxmofo1 said there not around right now. There not real fan's of the sport, Just chit talkers. I hope everyone remebers who they are when RD wins one cuz you know they will be back!! F ing hypocrits!! fair weather fans make me sick!!
fred there has been almost zero bad mouthing of JS7 for the past two weeks because the guys who do that are not true fan's and run away when there wrong!! Don't worry first RD win or JS crash they will be all over this site again!! For that reason I hope JS goes 24-0... Even though I really hope him and RD swap moto's every week it is nice arounsd here without the a-holes
I dont think even Ryan Villopoto has gone 4-0 outdoors.....but correct me if im wrong. JS is so in control of this right now. He can step it up at anytime. And i give major props to Dungey for eating that much roost and not giving up haha.
@ BillyC Dungey will win some motos maybe even a overall or two.He might win as early as this next weekend when they get to that Colorado slot car track.I'm not sure how good James is in the ruts.After this race though I think the only way Dungey wins is if James gets a bad start ,crash or DNF.I really think that James is building his fan base so it will help him get a good contract for next year.I've never really been a fan of James because of how he did CR22 at Unidilla back in the 125 days.
@fred,, JS is one of the best when it comes to ruts,, and sand..
I knew he would be a good sand rider since he is from Fl. It has been so long since he has rode outdoors that I can't remember if he's fast in ruts or not.Had a oldztimers moment there.
I loved what he did to Reed haha. Reed was coc ky and needed to be showed whos boss in their rookie year. And as far as ruts, Stewart is the man. Look who has won seattle the most and many of the mud races and well, alot of outdoor races.
james set the pace he wanted to run and most likely knew dungey would have had to work hard to keep up . im not surprised at the 250 lap times cause they was doing the same times as dungey and 450s during their practice. im sure james could have laid down a 2.02sec moto if he needed to. ppl forget he was 2secs ahead in practice. so im sure he could have blowin the 250 times by another 2secs. when ur out front. u set the pace,hence the reason js7 didnt crack under dungeys pressure. dungeys pressure didnt push him to go out of his comfort zone.
js7 has been duelling wit the goat for many motos. hence the reason i believe dungey is lite work.
While Tomac, Baggett & Barcia have shown world-class speed, I think Roczen's Consistencey will keep him right near the top of the leaderboard. He's obviously got the skills to handle the U.S. pace and the wisdom that comes from knocking around the G.P.'s will have him close all season.
As for the "haters" comments, I will add this: do your job to the best of your abilities, don't hurt anyone else and keep your attitude in check and no one will ever have a (legitimate) reason to hate on you. It's a lot like that in the real world as well.
So you guys really think JS chose to have RD that close both motos, and wouldn't have preferred to establish even a small margin for error? To think JS didn't want a cushion and was simply allowing RD to pull up beside him at the 30 minute mark is dillusional. They both made mistakes at that pace, neither of them was just cruising. I'm not trying to discredit JS, just looking at both sides of the card without blinders on. Someone even wrote that JS just kept RD close because people would be mad if he won by a lot.......wow. JS does have the upper hand right now, but he isn't just cake walking, he's being pressed but handling it well so far.
@toothperry what is with backhandedly trying to discredit RV again? Same title count as JS. By the way you never responded to the other thread, must not like when the history books don't align with your opinion.
@retardcross Im just doing the whole defense against "If RV was there" stupid comments. And i dont keep track of threads. Title count may be the same but also incomplete seasons. But JS has more wins. If Stewart wins this year by a margin will that make him better than RV? RV wouldnt have won last year due to a Dungey DNF. Im just sick of the RV hype. Hes good but hes not as amazing as everyone makes him to be. He had a good year in 2011.
Fred he already has a contract for next year.
.I am VERY sure RD will get some wins also.
It is great to have lil Stewie out there wicking it up, putting on a good race. If not, the Dunge would have been a lone ranger out there. These two guys are only racing each other and the other 38 riders that came off the gate don't even exist. They both have so much on there plate and so much motivation. Dungey will get a win sometime soon, be it will be interesting to see if James has him covered. No sign of J Sloan or jairtime, makes me wonder! Did they go camping togethere?
@fred- yes you are correct, you have oldztimers, you forgot alreadly you read this!
@ripdown- it appeared to me you were trying to make a point of these post being made withhout the use of a certian word being used.
I believe RV won won more than 4 moto's in a row last year. Not 100% sure but pretty sure.
Just looked no he did not.
So Eli Tomac set the fastest lap time all day....impressive, he could have beaten JS7 or RD5.
@fred - Really? I'm so sick of people discrediting Dungey and thinking Stewart is some unbeatable god of a racer. It's time for you to get out of your little fantasy world and realize that he is no longer the fastest man on the planet. My money is still on Dungey taking the title.
@Jean-Rene... You do realize that Dungey would have won the championship if it wasn't for a boiled tank and a missed start? Not discrediting Villopoto, but he did not "dominate".
Stewart has the edge on Dungey right now, no doubt. But just remember that a couple of months ago Stewart was crashing week-in and week-out. Its a long season and its going to take Stewart the kind of consistancy he hasn't seen since '08 to win this title.
@Jean-Rene - He was sick for the first two rounds, lame excuse...
Awwwww, the sniping begins.........on any given race day, either racer could win. It comes down to starts, staying on two wheels, lappers, mistakes. The racer (dungey, stewart...villo, reed, canard are not racing so do not figure this year) that can be as perfect as possible will win, period.
I find it amusing to read that some of you think Stewart was "toying" with Dungey for 30+2 X 2........Are you for real? or just stoking the fire?
Great racing so far from our two fastest 450 racers. They seem to be enjoying the competition, and have a racing respect for each other..........
Why can't we be the same to each other as we state our feelings and opinions. Its OK to disagree, its not OK to hate because of a difference of opinion.........just sayin'.
@toothperry.....RV is as good as everyone makes him out to be, sorry to break the news. Of course JS has more overall wins currently, he's been in the pro ranks 4 years longer than RV. Titles are the ultimate goal and measure of success in racing, and they're matched right now. Well, JS may have one more over RV when this outdoor series wraps up but that's not here nor there right now. I just hate how all the JS fans do the same thing every time he gets a win or starts winning. When he wins it was "easy" and noone has anything for him, and when he does lose a moto it's because (insert reason here) and it's not "straight up". RD has upped his game and is bringing it, whether you want to believe it or not. JS didn't run away from RD this weekend, and to say he didn't want to isn't realistic. I'm not saying JS wanted to gap him by 30 seconds, but he'd be an idiot to not want more than 1 - 2 seconds between them for a safety cushion. Give RD some credit, he's running almost the identical speed as him but hasn't put together a win yet. It will happen though no doubt.
@retardcross RD deserves all the credit. I would never wanna get roosed for 30 minutes. But i believe he was pushing it, hard. And whenever hed show a wheel Stewart could rebuild the gap. Im just saying JS wasnt scrubbing. He doesnt have to get super aggressive. Theres no point because thats when mistakes are made. But yeah Dungey did a great job i never said he didnt. Hes a great rider, just not aggressive as he needs to be. He doesnt make passes quick and thats why lappers favor everyone else when racing dungey.
@fred I find it hard to believe that JS7 would purposely allow RD to get on his rear wheel to gain fans back, especially on the last 2 laps while going through lappers and not knowing who was going to get the worst end of those guys. Also I think that JS7s manager and agent are most likely the guys coaching James on getting his fans back, everyone knows what happens when James is making decisions. He is doing every thing right lately and it makes it hard for anyone to hate on him, I'm not a fan but if he keeps doing what he has been it will be kind of hard not to be. I think the last 3 450 motos have been amazing and it is great to see two top guts race that hard without resorting to dirty tactics. The racing has been great in both classes and as a fan things have been great in the spectating department. I can't wait for next weekend!!
Awesome racing!!!! This seems the JS of old (racing RC), when he can just race. He doesn't have to worry about getting T-Boned or play Cat-N-Mouse games when racing CR, hence respect racing RC, RD, and RV. This is not a bash or dig on Reed cause it's racing. Racers ride differently when there's a squid on the track. Especially if you can't gap them.
Time will tell how good JS's set-up is. Just wait until JS has to come through the pack and track RD down. I don't think JS has pushed the Zook to his limit. Not the bike, but JS's limit.
@thetoothperry, Did u cry all SX long? Its obvious u start making excuses and getting all uptight whenever RV is put in the conversation. RV is 2x the rider James is. U might want to go get ur napkin too because this shows ET had the fastest laptime of the day on a 250. James ISNT the fastest man on the planet in this race AGAIN. SORRY
@Smee - I totally agree that RD would have taken the title last year if the he didn't DNF. That would have been good for 25 pts?
@Kawi567,, sorry, but the FMOTP right now is JS.. You are only as good as your last race..
You said --- "RV is 2x the rider James is." Really ?? You must be young.. You dont seem to understand that the 450's race BEFORE the 250s'. The track was sloppy the first 3 laps or so.. Think before you type...
Ummm thats all the more reason ETs fast lap was amazing. The 1st motos are groomed and perfect and then the 1st motos for the 250s are rigid and bumpy! AND Eli did it on less horse power. U guys cant go around always saying JS is the fastest man on the planet when the facts show as of right now he isnt. mxmofo should think before he types
@Kawi567,, They did NOT groom the track, they watered it, thats it.. Think man, think .... Also, maybe watch the race next time...
People RD was maxxed out.JS7 was cruzing.If CR22 ,RV1 and Canard were racing it would be a totally different series.Last year RV was not sick.He just looked sick between moto's because that 011 Kaw was killing him.When he got the 012 Kaw it was game over.
@Jean-Rene.....hmmmmmm, guess you just got your medical marijuana card. Be careful as the potency has increased over the years (compliments to the chemist)
Are we really back to this FMOTP debacle???? Tell me what the criteria is to become the FMOTP!!!!!!!!! Is it something tangible and measureable? or is it just because you say so???!!!!!!
Come on guys, get over the mine is bigger, brighter, more expensive than yours complex, and understand that they are all fast on any given day, on any given track condition, in any given weather situation..........
fred wrote: about 11 minutes ago
People RD was maxxed out.JS7 was cruzing.
Keep dreaming bud. RD was all over him at the 30 minute mark. That's hardly cruising. But then again, you think JS was holding himself back to battle with RD so people won't "hate" so that explains it all right there.
@Retardcross,, I really do think that JS has "another gear." He shows it a little when he get 4th or 5th out of the hole, and he's in the lead in about 3 corners later.
When the top dogs average lap time is better than your best lap, that is hard to take.
With Barcia and Tomac moving up next year, let me be the first to call it the Big 7.
BTW, I would agree that Villopoto is better than Dungey in Supercross, but outdoors they're dead even. You can disagree with that, but the stats tell a different story...
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I hope you are better at History you punk if I ever see you at the races I will stick my Weinerschnitzel in your B HOLE you pie hole
@kawi567 i wasnt crying all sx season. haha. and whats fastest to you? RV never pulls fastest times. Its not a dick, dont take it so hard.
And to make that point more valid, Baggett was faster than Villopoto at the majority of nationals last year and calm down 250f class has always been like that. Even when JS was on 125s he had faster times then RC on a 250. Its just easier to pin a smaller bike.
Haha. RV never pulls the fast lap times? Seriously! U r so F@cking stupid that its funny to me. Ryan had the fastest lap time in every race except for 3 in sx. So thats 6 and Stewy had 2 fastest times. Since I know ur a retard 6 is more than 2 and therefor I win over u AGAIN! Suck that dick, along with James's that up ur a$$ d-bag
@smee113,, IMO, I think RV is faster indoors and outdoors,,, especially when he got on the 2012 Cow...
@ kaw567 toothferry told me your riding blows and that you are slower than Mxmofo1 who is slow as molassws you a hole
Racer X was decent for a while after they made you register before you could comment, but the idiots have made a spectacular comeback.
I'm a stewey hater but guess what... the guys faster than sh!t
aww it appears that a few of our friends are back with new screen names, if you are so stupid when you post to a forum that you have to change your name just to come back that sais a lot about your character. i dont even have to call each one of you out you know who you are and we know who you are!
Yeah Pugue, because u know who the f*ck I am right. With ur mystical powers and all. Shut up u D class goon
I've been reading these post for about a year now and I'm noticing BillC is starting to jump on the JS7 bandwagon. Your man is hurt Bill. You shouldn't be unfaithful like that!
I think you'll see Dungey get better and JS(who has been riding this bike for months by the way) start to break. No way JS7 wins another Supercross either. Not with TC, RV and RD in the picture and the young guns coming up.
2002- "Before long, Stewart had figured out the deal and began clipping off moto wins and overalls. At one point, Reed apparently said he could run with Stewart if he could get a better start, so Stewart took matters into his own hands at Unadilla. While leading the first moto (after a good start), Stewart suddenly started to slow down. He was actually going to let Reed catch up! A startled Reed then took the lead, and Stewart got back on the gas, passed him back and took off. You think a rivalry was beginning to brew between these two?"
Why would that make you not be a fan Fred?
Stewart already won half as many outdoors races on his new suzuki- than Villopoto won in four years on his same old kawasaki. Stewart beat Dungey twice already with ten more chances to go- Villopoto beat Dungey six times out of twelve in outdoors 450 so far. Reed beat Villopoto four times in outdoors- but he never beat Stewart once on a 450 outdoors. Stewart won 17 races by the four year mark- some were against Ricky carmichael- Villopoto has four wins right now. Dungey has three times that many wins already in two years. Say what you want about the indoors- but this is the outdoors. The story is still being written.
Actually Reed did beat him once when Stewart mechanicalDNFed on the last lap while running second to Carmichael.
Reed would have beat him last year!! And stewie would have crashed or taken them both out to try and win. Reed was faster last year than ever. To bad #7 was scared. He should be able to beat the third fastest guy from last year.... most the time. Go RD!
Guys, This is another season that is just rockin!
Seeing Dungey press for two motos was .........Man, that guy just flat hauls!
His centered body position is distinct and almost classical in it's beauty.
Stewart holds his body differently, shoulders far forward and square, sometimes with his butt stuck out a little more than Dungey,...... but I digress. Seeing these guys ride at a high nine and sometimes touch ten and then maybe swap big or slam hard makes them back it down to nine, occasionally ten......I sure wish it was Dungey who was wearing the helmet camera cause I'd ride every moto with him.
And the Lites could not be tougher to handicap....fantastic!
Anyway, to you regulars, great analysis and color commentary.
And I too speculate that JS7 might be able to go eleven.
The term "hater" will and should continue to be used as long as the term "stewtard" is in use. I don't see either side backing down, to be honest.
And yeah, RV would probably be 4-0 right about now. James has impressed me, though...I didn't think he'd be beating Dungey already, but it's a nice surprise. I wouldn't doubt at all that the pace was faster last year (RD included), but maybe not.
Tomac's ride was amazing. Obviously he and Baggett have been the ones to set themselves apart so far, so hopefully sum sh*t bout 2 go down tween dem 2 boyz reel soon.
Kawi your an idiot... Tracks often get faster as turns and bumps develop... It's not uncommon for 250 riders to turn the same laps as 450 (RV2, JS7 always did it) it doesn't mean shhht though so who cares
MOTOXWANNABE No jummpin here. RV is still my Fav. I am just calling it as I see it like I always do. What should I do?? Disapere because my Fav is hurt??
Your undisputed #1 has four outdoors wins in four years- I am disputing it.
Moto wins aren't race wins- In a few months there will be a new champion crowned. You are exxagerating- my comments were about the outdoors. He has 23 total outdoor wins Stew has 47 and counting- while villopoto is still on the couch.
POTO is a potato head Dungey rules
If we follow that logic then the goat is still the champion since 2006. The comments were not meant to discredit Villopoto at all- But in outdoors 450 he has not been any more successful than the other three- so for some to say he would "make them look silly out there" is just ridiculous.