Racer X Rapid ReaXtion: Stewart to Suzuki
Monday, May 7, 2012 | 3:20 PM
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PrintJason Weigandt:
The details of how the deal came to be will probably come out at a later date, and surely there’s a story there, because it’s rare that a rider goes from one brand and team mid-season and switches to another. But those details are for later. For now, we can talk about what we do know: Stewart surely gave up a bunch of money to make this deal.
And that says volumes about his desire to get out there and race (motocross again) and win. His JGR deal did not require him to race outdoors, I hear he could have decided by May 1 to sit out the summer and they still would have paid him. He chose not to take that easy route, and I’m sure the JGR brass was pumped about that—would you rather pay someone who is struggling not to race, or just get out of the deal altogether? If he was holding the SX Championship in his hands, it wouldn’t have felt so bad, but that didn’t even come close to happening.
The next question is if James can win. He hasn’t raced motocross full time since sweeping all 24 motos, but that was in 2008. But I don’t think that’s a problem. Even his brief return at Unadilla in 2010, billed as a failure by even James himself, wasn’t that bad. The dude literally came off the couch, on a team with zero motocross prep, and finished third in the first moto that day. A lot of guys that were in mid-season form finished way, way behind him. The riding isn’t an issue.
But then every Stewart deal comes with hype. The vibe was mega, uber positive at the JGR press conference in October, too. But I think one key thing is different in this deal, and it’s not the money: it’s the lack of excuses. James is surely taking this deal for the bike. And, as much as Stew probably winces to be compared to Chad Reed, this deal holds a similarity to TwoTwo Motorsports: Reed took away all of his excuses and bet on himself. That forced him to step up to the challenge, and rode better.
Stewart just removed the excuses and bet on himself. That plan has worked before.
Suzuki photo
Steve Matthes:
Much like that time I did not enter the convent and started pumping gas when I was 16, sometimes things just don’t work out and it’s best to stop and make a change of direction. This is what James Stewart has done in getting out of his JGR Yamaha deal and switching to Suzuki—starting immediately.
I’ve written on and on about this deal and how it’s coming together, I sometimes feel like my life has become a guy that talks and types about James Stewart for a living. But my stance is the same with this official news as it was when I first heard about it a while back—James could have taken the money and sat at home not riding the Nationals. Instead, he’s so frustrated at his poor (for him) performances that he’s going to, much like Wesley Snipes did in Passenger 57, bet on black. Or in case that joke went over your head, bet on himself.
I think the Nationals just got 1000000 percent more interesting and I’m excited to see what Stewart’s going to do on yellow. It’s a bike he’s had at his house for a long time (he went out and either tried every color or bought every color before signing with JGR) and he feels comfortable on.
Weigandt and I differ on the next point on whether it was a failure for JGR and Stewart for this to happen. Obviously both sides didn’t get what they wanted from the deal and it was indeed a failure in terms of a deal getting broken but my point is that JGR wasn’t happy with Stewart’s results. So why just keep butting your head against the wall over and over to try and fit a square peg in a round hole? The ability for both sides to realize this and not fight it is a win/win in my opinion. Lots of egos in the sport and for Coy Gibbs to realize that his prize acquisition isn’t working out takes fortitude and a forward thinking approach. In my eyes this is a victory for the forward thinkers and people who can be men about something that isn’t working out.
And I, like so many others, can’t wait for Hangtown!
Suzuki photo
David Pingree:
You’ve got to respect this move. Per James’ contract with Yamaha he could of stayed at home all summer and collected a huge paycheck. He didn’t have to race the Nationals with JGR. So, he could have made this switch at the end of the summer, put a little coin in his pocket and started looking towards 2013. But instead he left a grip of cash on the table so that he could get to a place where he feels like he can be competitive again. The Suzuki is a motorcycle that is proven and has won many titles [RC’s and Dungey’s] over the last five years. This could be a very potent duo. Will the old James return at Hangtown or will it be the same old thing we’ve seen the past few years? Time will tell. But in a summer that was looking to be a clean sweep for Ryan Dungey, things just became much more interesting.
Personally I believe James is going to find more speed and more consistency on this bike. For Stewart that means race wins and winning is fun. Maybe we’ll get to see James Stewart smiling again this summer.
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"Stewart surely gave up a bunch of money to make this deal"
.the haters will not have much to say about that
Great words guys!! I'm glad that all three of you make it clear that he DID NOT just take the easy way out and sit back all summer and get paid for it!! A lot of people on here need to really listen to that fact!! It was a mature move on everyones part to accept that it just wasn't working out for anybody involved. I said at the beginning of last year that i felt he went with the "deal" he wanted more than the bike he wanted, i'll bet he wished he hadn't but i applaud him for his apparent dedication to winning again by making this move.......hopefully this proves to some that he is NOT all about the money!! Good luck James....i personally feel good about this!!!
.....and remember....it's a long series!!!!!!!
Bill C.
Stewart has been a millionaire for many years now. To give up a couple mil is pocket change and obviously didnt effect his decision. I think this is a A+ move for stewart. He had to do something.
Its crazy to me that someone with so little respect for his team (and the mass amounts of money put down to give him everything his little heart desired on his bike) get picked up by another team. He should have been closed out of all factory deals. Make him do it on his own and learn to appreciate all the hard work (and $$) that the factory teams put in for their riders. Maybe then he would be deserving of a factory ride. Of course his skills are insane... no doubt about that. But what a piece of garbage he is to his team and his fans. How many Yamaha functions did he miss (with no phone call or anything) that he could have supported the brand and signed autographs for fans since he wasn't riding. We all heard about the lack of communication straight from Albrechts mouth! He needs to grow up and learn some respect. Only then will he be truly deserving of a factory ride.
Hasn't raced outdoors since 2008, it's 2012.
That's four years of no 30+2 in the summer heat.
Be interested to see if he can last and hopefully no have heat stroke
I think JGR forced a situation that didn't work: Pirelli's and a new frame YZF that needed more testing onto a guy whose never been known as the greatest test rider. Here you have bike that has been fully shaken down by Carmichael, Reed and Dungey who all won championships on it. The video on vital shows him looking pretty comfortable already. Everyone loves a great comeback story, hope that's what we get this summer.
The fact that JS7 is leaving money on the table seems like a moot point.
He already has more cash than he'll ever know what to do with...
The mid season move shows true desire on his part.
Maybe the guy's ready to just race and put all the B.S. behind him.
Kudos, James Stewart. Let's see what you still got- come Hangtown.
Too late "Kxpwr18"......the deal is done you idiot........get ready!!
This wont show anything IMO.............. Wait till the 2013SX season when Everybody is back and healthy....Then we will see if it paid off.
bermblaster I said something about the money on another thread and the haters questioned it. but now they can't
James, I have been critical of you and my perception of your work ethic, as it relates to your struggles.
I have also been critical of your race smarts with the " win or crash " mantra, while exciting as hell to watch, it is a danger to others.
I am glad you are racing the Nationals this year. It WILL definitely be more exciting.
I am bummed RV will not be there to continue his Reign. I do believe RD will have you covered but we will soon find out.
I, like many of the posters on here ( including the smart ones, the OK takes and the guys that constantly hit NEUTRAL when posting ), really don't know what the hell will happen outdoors. As I would have never foreseen the injury decimation to the Supercross field this year.
I want and expect your best racing effort this year, nothing more and nothing less, so PLEASE, put your hat on right ( Frontwards or Back, don't care which ) and bring it to every round this year!
@AGMAN,, actually, its been 3 season not four,, but I know what you mean..
Thanks mofo, a little math challenged
he gave up the jgr money but i can guarantee that he is not racing for suzuki pro bono.
So, now what happens at JGR? Does J-Bone still have a job, what new rider be on the team??
Well finally vindication for what I have been saying all along that Yamaha is a POS and he got off of it.I have noticed that everyone is reporting that he left alot of money on the table but I would guess Suzuki is going to pay him good and he will get win bonus and personal sponsor money...so don't feel sorry for JS7. I have only great hope that he can race and win on the suzuki and we get some good races this summer.
@AGMAN,,, hahahaha...
AGMAN,
RV also missed 3 outdoor seasons before 2011, he turned out just fine. Give him a round or two to get back into like RV and I'm sure he would get comfortable with the pace again.
Do you know the difference between education and experience? Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don't.
The move is great. Him competing in the motocross series is great. Now he's needs to get rid of that stupid reality show he's got going on and get back to the basics! What he's good at. Which is RACING. I haven't seen any of his stupid show, I had no interests in watching it, but I knew it was a stupid idea in the first place. Dude this isn't MTV's Real World. Be real and just stick to what your good at, RACING.
His show has not been in production since 2010.
Havoc...The Championship winning Zook is outta the shed..Thank You. Dust that baby off with some mega scrubs ...you've got some work ahead of you.....good luck and may the best man win ...meanwhile the new sheriff stares out into the Cabo sunset.....reaches down and lights a cigar with a monster mil hundie ,sips a cool Corona and mentally prepares for A1 2013..."i'll be back" he mumbles....
Did Reed ever announce a replacement for his replacement? I would think he'd want his 'brand' out there with somebody on it. BTW...I love my Pirelli MXMS tires.
How many of us would keep getting back on a bike that for whatever reason augered you big time on many occasions ?James did .
Something wasnt working.........James walked away from JGR while he still could. I kept expecting his next crash to be his last.
Ihave a feeling James will get the respect he deserves just like Dungey and Reed did.
JimM
Pala374
Good PR move for bubba and he knows it. He gave up a lot and i have'nt even heard the nascar element mentioned yet. But he wont be collecting food stamps any time soon.Its time to get fired up for nationals. As Bart scott would say: Cant Wait!!!
Chillmatic: Is that right? Well that's my bad. Point being: He hasn't been full focused on racing. First it was the show, then he got arrested. I'm not saying I'm perfect, cause I'm not. I'm far from perfect. I like Stewart and I'm pulling for him. I hope he gets back to the old-Stewart. I think he has just made a few bad decisions that's all. Hell I've made some bad choices myself.
With RV and Reed out, this is good to hear. If it wasn't for the unknown of his injuries, I'd predict he'd compete for moto wins real soon. I still like Dungey's chances in a long series, but this should make the 450 class much more interesting.
This may an appropriate time to bring up (if one of the long posts above I didn't read hasn't already) that Stewart is tied for second in combined SX and MX wins, with 96. One overall and he moves past Showtime and will only be (53) behind the GOAT.
farscape40. The yamaha is a POS? PLEASE.....Explain Milsaps' results for the rest of us!?! OF ALL PEOPLE MILSAPS....finishes 2nd in the standings.
I'd almost be willing to bet that the contract states his wage would be $2-300K, with a bonus listing that you wouldn't believe!
I cann't believe that FACTORY SUZUKI would pay top dollar for someone that hasn't shown to his potential for 3-4 years.
This is a talent scramble for Suzy....since RD left. #7 is the best potential out there. Bonus payout will determine if he gets a contract renego.
Can't wait to see how patient he will be.
DON'T count out SHORTY, Metcalf or Weimer.
Top five....#5,#7,#29,#21,#10
I am a HUGE Dungey fan but.....................something tells me he could be racing for second or third at Hangtown. The contenders will be James - 800 - and 5.
JimM
Pala374
i like it. and i havent once wanted him to win a race since he moved up to the big bikes(except MXoN) but with RV out i might route for him this summer. he has the speed but can he be as consistent as Dungey? if he lines up for and finishes every moto that Dungey does i say James wins, but thats a big if. and its very important for our sport to have him racing indoors and out so great move james and good luck preparing for the return of RV
2003RACER8M... If not for all the Hurt guys Milsaps would not have made the top 5. Yes he got 2nd but is not near the same level a rider as ,RV, RD, JS, TC, CR ect. Not to many people like the bike. Pretty much all have said it not good.
@ 2003RACER8M
Don't forget Millsaps or Regal !
JimM
Pala374
@JimboMX374 - I hope you're kidding. I'm pretty sure Alessi has never beat Dungey a single race in his career. What's going to change in 10 days?
Unless you're talking about the first 3-5 laps.
@BillC
I respect your opinions but dont feed the if only RV, TC, CR were racing crowd
Jimm
Pala374
@MXBob - You may be right but hey I am a Alessi fan in the TGO ...and either way I gave way more than 3 laps.
Jim
Nothing like taking the wind out or your point with a typo.................
"and either way I give him way more than 3 laps":
DumboMX374
JimM
Pala374.
"In my eyes this is a victory for the forward thinkers and people who can be men about something that isn’t working out." ---- That was really well put. This really is a victory. JBS obviously still has something to prove, I think he's capable of proving it, and fortunately both parties were able to read the writing on the wall.
Joe Gibbs hasn't ever given up on any team or person. I really thought he would turn JS7 into a better man and rider. It's only downhill now... Too bad it won't be RV2 , CR22, TC41 and RD5 taking the podiums from him.
I am always amazed by the Stewart haters. Here's an idea: If you can beat him, then you can talk trash about him. That narrows it down to about three or four people on the planet. And none of those guys can beat him on a regular basis.
I was very surprised when he signed with JGR. Why would you keep riding a bike you obviously aren't comfortable on. Maybe he thought that with the access to all of the technology and capacity to manufacture their own parts, that JGR could make the Yamaha work. I made a point to look for Yamaha's on the gate at Vegas this weekend. There were very few. I think the only ones were team bikes that probably have a deal. No privateers. So, draw your own conclusions there. Personally, I think the "I hate this bike" thing floating around in his head is a big deal. It's a distraction. If he loves the Suzuki and it feels good to him, he may not be caught.
I have a lot of respect for both James and JGR for how this thing played out. I guess none of us know the exact details but, it seems like both sides were very professional about the whole thing, which is good for the sport.
BillC... K-Dub would have finished ahead of him, too.
Good luck James !!!!!!!!!! from Me and Mr_Mx see you in California
Don't feel too bad for JGR, either. Stewart did get that team their first Supercross wins and a ton of exposure.
Matthes - To disagree with Weege and then state that forward thinking people recognize the separation as a win/win, would imply that Weege is not forward thinking and is also busy banging his head against a wall trying to fir a square peg into a round hole. Just sayin'...
This reminds me of a marriage gone bad...We are not privey to what went on behind the scenes,nor does it matter to me. I dont think it was Yamaha's fault, others ride it well and James did win on it..it all boils down to the CC's I talk about..Confidence and Comfort...if you never feel comfy on the bike it is impossible to ride it to the best of your abilities...you have to trust the bike more than your wife,to go the speed of Poto, Reedy and Dungey. It will not be easy for him after such a long outdoor lay off.. I remember RV stateing how he forgot how hard it was to go 30+2 and how hot it was along with how rough the tracks get...James has the abillity shut us all up and dazzle us with his speed..or to show us time can be a cruel mistress...It is up to James Stewart Jr now...
Bring on the Great Outdoors!!!
Who knows how this will work.... Maybe Stewie has been sitting out of the final supercross matches trying to get ready for the Nationals?? It might work, maybe the intial results wont be high but he will ride himself into shape as the season moves along. I personally hope it works out or Dungey will run away with it. Weimer and Millsaps will be around with Short. But not pushing Dungey for the title. Dont forget Dungey ran with RV at a few rounds last summer with RV on his new ride. So Dungey has alot of speed. Plus we need Stewie to get into outdoor shape for the Des Nations. He is an excellent sand rider and can hand it to the Euros there if he is in shape after a full outdoor season. Time will tell.
On the thing about him giving up some money by leaving JGR?? Big whoopee. He is a millionaire several times over. Some reports had him pocketing almost 8 million for a couple years, so giving up 1 or 2 isnt going to hurt him.
And whether the Yamaha is the real problem or not, if it is in Stewies mind that the bike is bad, he wasnt going to have success on it, so the swtch was best for him anyway.
@chosen1 ......on this you are correct.....and i did lol on that one......(now Havoc is also out of excuses ..its time to put up or shut up.)....oh Zookie , you look so good.....
Whats with the picture of Stewart at the top of the page?? All "Gangsta" face and hat on sideways crooked whatever?? When is this guy ever going to grow up?? He is 26 years old, that crap is for kids. One reason I dont cheer for him, his attitude and that crap right there.. Just where a hat normal and not Gangsta style please. This is moto, not the NBA..
You can never plan the future by the past.
@ JS just go out and have fun and podium. Everything else will follow or work themselves out.
@ mofo – you may not cheer for him, but apparently you follow him. You’re here posting comments. J/K, just giving you a hard time. hahahaha
@ everyone that is talking about JS making ton's of money. Look at what happened to MC Hammer, he made money hand over fist in the 90's.
I'm curious to see how many of the bikes on the line at Hangtown are Yamaha 450s. Izzi, Sipes, Kiniry, and Milsaps are all I can think of quickly- and that's assuming Izzi and Sipes don't wad themselves up, which is a moonshot, but it's possible (I know, I know, they're faster than me).
Mrs_Mx Mr_Mx
Hangtown Overall: Hangtown Overall:
1. Stewart 1. Stewart
2. Dungy 2. Dungy
3. Short 3. Weimer
Ping, I think you're overlooking the role that Decoster played in all those Zook championships. Mike Webb is a good dude, but he ain't no Roger.
hmmmm, I completely disagree with my work mates on JS7's "problems".....just remember this when it's all said and done...it's not about the bike....it's not about the bike....it's not about the bike....
I like James and love watching him ride but, it's not about the bike....And for the record I think he will win the Outdoor championship this summer. I believe he would have won with JGR as well. He would not, however win with a healthy field. Dungey will be the only competition and I just don't think one other fast guy will be enough. However, James will have his hands full with RD's consistency.
If it truly is the case that JGR signed a contract with James that paid him huge money whether he raced the Nationals or not, I have to wonder where their heads are at. It would be common sense to say, you get X-amount for SX and another X-amount kicks in if you race the Nationals. Just hand him over a bunch of money and tell him to just let us know by May 1......but we'll still pay you the full amount. Really, really, wondering what they're doing over there. Talk about incentive. James has really made them look like fools here between the interview with Cycle News/correction elsewhere, Tweeting about Andrew Short instead of emailing, tire-gate......they went from having an aura of being giant slayers to something below that. I hope they can sign a real good talent and put all this nonsense behind them. And don't give anyone money and tell them they don't have to race if they dont feel like it! James walked away from all that money, with Red Bull paving the trail with hundred dollar bills....puleeeze.
Honestly, James quit on the SX season when he fell at A1.
I just read that James got JGR their first SX wins. I see we only pay attention to one thing! All James all the time. JGR won their 1st SX back in 2009 with Grant myopic fanboy. Can someone please ask if Wilson has pointed out of the 250 Nationals again? I can't get enough of that one.
@BD25 good point about RV stating how he forgot how hard it was to go 30+2
@ Mrs_Mx A wise man once said , “Consider the past and you shall know the future.”
JimM
Pala374
It is sink or swim time.
Was not a Stewart fan, but a Zook fan! Now I like them both. I hope he has a great season. Dungey and his Kentucky Trash Masher will not be the only threat, Barcia is moving up and he is hungry.
James
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.....Roost on my friend !!!!
Mr_ / Mrs_Mx
See you next week
RX Virtual Trainer: Maybe you should stick to training you apparently don't know much about Moto. If it isn't the bike lets see someone take out a 1980's bike and put it on the box. You have zero respect from me, I will stick to mens fitness.
B-KR You can't point out of the Nationals. He's defending his title and moving to a 450 next year. I believe he has pointed out of the SX Lites class. I don't understand why people change who they are a fan of based on bikes (unless they work for a manufactuer)
JS7 Loving the Swag! Here's to hoping you find your groove!
I think the Suzuki will make a big difference for James this year, he's more comfortable on it and that will free up some mental energy and he can regain some confidence in the machine!! Best of luck JS...stay focused and kick some ass...i wanna see it happen!!
At least the outdoors could be more exciting as of now. And if Stewy races, it will be of some interest (but not very much) to find out whether or not he can sack up.
"Maybe we’ll get to see James Stewart smiling again this summer."
And even better, maybe he could wear his hat properly without staring down the camera. He'll surely do better on yellow. Probably just made the 2013 SX series a lot more interesting as well with everyone else coming back from injury.
A lot of lame a$$ bs they've been feeding about his hand though if he can ride like that right now. So who was the honest one, Albrecht or Coy?
James
Go big or go home. Because it's true. What do you have to lose?
What up Mr_ /Mrs_Mx
see you at Hangtown
Mau 5
Rock N Roll
Maus 5
I think he will win races this summer, possibly the title. If for some reason he does spend alot of time on the ground still, man there wont be much more to say. Although I'll bet people on here will have plenty to say.
I am not a big JS7 fan but I love watching mx, I think JS& is going to surprise every one and kick kf#@*ing ass on everyone in the field. I cant wait till hangtown.
James,
When you fail you learn from the mistakes you made, and it motivates you to work even harder.
Mr_ / Mrs_ Mx thanks for being there yesterday at Quail Hollow it meant a great deal to me.
Thanks for the dinner steaks were great !!!!! my place anytime Rickie.F
Thanks Rickie Good luck at the players this weekend!!!!!!!
Mr_ /Mrs_Mx
James looks great on yellow.I have some money on him taking Hangtown.
Deadmau5
I know your taking Dungy .......
Mrs_Mx Mr_Mx
Wow...I'm happy for James. This took elephant size balls to do at this point in the game. I really love the approach both Stewart and Reed have taken. Both tested and decided upon bikes (brands) that fit them the best. Yamaha needs to figure this bike out quickly. Surely it can win races but how much faster and confident would these riders be on another brand? Waaaay to many negatives surround this bike!
PW29 - thanks for your input. I know moto and I know training. Obviously a 1980's bike cannot compete. But a JGR Yamaha can and does compete. I simply think James has bigger issues than the color bike he is riding.
@JimboMX374- I agree, dont forget about alessi, he always shines at hangtown.
I don't think anybody is really considering the fact that Stewart probably signed with JGRMX just so he could have a guaranteed future outside of MX/SX. He just wanted to get more exposure through another form of racing, and he knew to do that he had to be buddy buddy with a big time NASCAR owner. I'll admit, I still thought his priorities would be in place and that the motocross/supercross came first, but I don't think it was completely his first priority in his mind. Why else would Stewart himself and Coy Gibbs say that he'd be open to racing with them again if he ever did make the jump to NASCAR? Bottom line, James realized that motocross is his home. I only wish that instead of wanting to get into NASCAR after riding a Yamaha, he would've followed up on his promise to Valentino Rossi and joined him in MotoGP!
TOO BAD THERE ARE SO MANY IDIOTS FILLING THIS PAGE AND I AM AT THE BOTTOM......ANYWAYS BACK TO THE ARTICLE PRIMARILY BASED ON JS7 POINT OF VIEW...WHAT OF JGR WAS THE ACTUALLY THE SMARTEST ONES HERE..
WHAT IF JGR KNOWING THEY HAD TO PAY HIM HUGE MONEY TO SIT ON A COUCH AND WATCH,,,, AGREED TO LET HIM GO IF HE LEAVES RIGHT FNNNN NOW!!!!!!! I WOULD SAY DEAL GET OUT HERE AND ON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT....
SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT JS7 TOOK A PAYCUT TO RIDE YELLOW CRAP...I VIEW THIS JGR GAINED A RAISE TO CUT THE LOSS RIGHT THIS SECOND SEE YA LATER DUDE....YAMAHA NEEDS A SOLID RIDER AND HAS THE MOENY TO PAY KNOW...
WITH VILLO,REED, CANARD OUT I THINK BARCIA WILL BE THE ONLY ONE TO PUT IT TO HIM...
DUNGEY WILL BE SAFE AND CONSERVATIVE AND IF HE DOESNT RUN OUT OF GAS, BREAK DOWN, THROW A CHAIN, OR HIS MECHGANIC CAN'T GET THE BIKE STARTED SECONDS BEFORE THE TITLE IS DECIDED IN MOTO 2 AT SOUTHWICK.......OHHHH MY BAD HE DOESNT RIDE SUZUKI ANYMORE NEVER MIND.....HE WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP...
yamyblues - you need a beer.
I understand the discomfort of trying to ride to your limits on a bike that you don't feel completely comfortable on. It sucks. But it is not all the bike, I agree with RX that JS has some other issues. However, the bike is part of the equation, and I expect him to ride better on it. It won't be an instant fix to all his woes, but hopefully it will be part of some changes that help him race more consistent.
I wish I had garage cabinets.
Did I miss something? Barcia 450 outdoors this year? Why do people keep saying that?
I was wondering about the Barcia comments too. ?
I wish that I had stewarts fans! The worst season of his career and they still think that he is suddenly going to dominate a month later cause he is on a different bike? WOW, simply dumbfounding!
Its simple.. The people saying Barcia is going to be on a four fifty are clearly not very in tune fans to know that the honda deal starts w 13. Those guys are the fair weather fans, that clearly do not know alot about mx-sx. Alot of people act like they are big fans, but if you really think Barcia is going to be battling with Stewart this summer, you really do not know much, as he will be finishing up on his geico deal this summer, THEN IN THE YEAR 2013, WILL BEGIN HIS (2) YEAR DEAL WITH FACTORY HONDA.
Come on guys, if your going to comment, atleast know what your talking about so you don't look so silly. There are many sites to learn from, and some really good podcasts as well.
Every sport has "those" guys....
Barcia is on a 250 for 2012.
Man Im stoked on this as a Suzuki fan! Hes scrubbing Suzuki like his 259 days!
The bike is proven, and for more than one rider, so yep, hes lost his old 'excuse' of the bikes fault.
At least I guess we will see if that was an excuse for lack of speed/effort/fitness/ego/tv show/pressure/commitment/(ADD FORUM EXCUSES HERE) causing the results, or that the dude genuinely does not fit the Yamaha, even with the support and mods of JGR.
I love watching the dude race, its entertainment at its best! But lately every outing has just been another let down. C'mon Havoc#7! "Fastest Man On The Planet" suited you! RECLAIM THAT TITLE!
Haha I bet now Suzuki will bring out the 2013 RMZ with some wack frame or motor or something and give JS more excuses!
Haha I bet now Suzuki will bring out the 2013 RMZ with some wack frame or motor or something and give JS more excuses!
@Yamy do you think caps make you taller...lol...running out of gas (not suzukis fault)and breaking a chain (never saw a suzuki chain yet)and mystery electrical failure electrics ( suzuki doesn't manufacture electronics and I believe there was massive amounts of moisture involved))doesn't really make me afraid of the actual Suzuki's reliability.....(but I did hear RD has had some motor issues already ...i know shorty did.)...but all those Championships and wins and how good it DOES work (Yoshimura has a pretty good idea of how to build a motor...ya think?)...sure makes me like owning one and Havoc seems to like it better than ole whirlwind.... Barcia is still on the 250 till SX.... take lovetorides advice....Yamaha (i really like their bikes and products) needs a redisign on both bikes (which they will do ,they have money ..its just a matter of time) then they will hire some boys and get back in it..they always have.Then you'll feel better....
I don't think it is just the bike, he also had a bad wrist injury that ended a few riders careers. Look what happened to Rick Johnson, he was never the same after that injury.
@Harry... Bullcrap.... RJ, came back too soon... Which he himself admited himself. The guy was riding some nationals 500 the very same year... He also rode and won Bercy '89... Not knowing he was screwing up his wrist... He should have taken the enitre year off... Sadly history will show otherwise... And the guy was just patethic afterwards.. A real shame... He should have won way, more titles.
As for Stewie.. I believe he has crashed so often.. As some other posters mentioned.. It must have affected his head...
Wow, people are even dumber than I thought.
@PW29, I am quite aware that you can't point out of the Nationals which is why I get such a kick out of it when people ask about Wilson (or others) pointing out here. They are dumb, and now you aren't to bright if you can't comprehend that I was saying how dumb it is that they ask that time and again. Wait a sec, I'm pretty sure you were the last one I saw ask this........
And how funny is it that some genius is going to come on here with a variation of my screen name in support of the racer formerly known as Bubba? It is so entertaining to see how stupid people are, yet very scary to know they're out there in such large numbers at the same time.
Forgot to add, I think this video was made a long time ago when he thought he was going to Suzuki before. The whole idea of rolling out of a closed garage with the Suzuki (no one knew that was coming) and the way he says he's looking forward to 2012 as if it is still 2011 doesn't ring true with having been filmed in May of 2012. Maybe James calendar is off 6 months and that's what makes it okay to end contracts mid-year, and skip summers. He thinks May is the beginning of the off-season!
Joe Gibbs has two of the most volatile racers ever on his car teams. Tony Stewart was punching photographers and knocking over reporters before Joe finally got him in line and won a championship with him. He's also taken without a doubt, the biggest ahole in the garage, Kyle Busch, and is still managing to make it work, although its a never ending struggle.
Joe Gibbs is used to high maintenance, screwed up personalities. Thats why I found it shocking that he couldnt get James to see the light. If he couldnt do it, no one can.
I also think James realized that the days of vacationing during MX seasons and then winning SX titles is probably over. I'm glad. I want the fastest racers on the gate.
win,win,win
win for stewart: Looks like he's having fun again.
win for Suzuki: They have the stongest team this summer with Metcalfe & Alessi
win for the AMA: Now there's more reason to watch
First of all, JGR should not be looked upon in any negative manor. YAMAHA is the reason this deal fell through. The bike SUCKS! Second, JS7 on a Suzuki is FIRE! The Nationals are going to be JS7 reprogramming! LOL JS7 will dominate and WIN THE 2012 OUTDOORS NATIONAL TITLE! KANG JAMES!!!
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@therealmofo ... I see you are still mostly worried at the way he wears his hat ... You have some real issues man , and we all know what they are , you look good in white
I'm want another 24 moto sweep for JS7!
Now we're gonna see magic n excitement! White folks giving him the finger while he races around the track. Has everyone I've read hating on JS7 comments remembered. You guys took the fun out of the nationals for JS7. Why would JS7 have wanted to race the nationals, FOR THAT! YOUR SICK!!
Hey Stewart, from all us die hard MX fans. Thanks for racing the outdoor season. I for one was one of the biggest doubters that you had. Hope all the riders stay healthy and we have another year to enjoy the best sport in the world.
My prediction
Dungey, Stewart, Alessi, Weimer.
Stewart and JGR have definitely gained a lot of my respect. A great way to go their separate ways and I congratulate them both and wish them future success!!
Get well soon RV, someones abt to make things really interesting now that he's feeling comfortable!!
Typical Preston race card comment. You're right, people would think wearing your hat like that would look good on a white person, but because JS is black it's bad. Good call Jesse Jackson.
@DeeJay... Alessi is not riding officially for suzuki... He's on a weird deal deal with motoconcept... And as far as i can recall.. They receive no support of any kind from suzuki...
The guy to beat is Dungey for the MX crown (It's his golden opportunity to gain it back!)... But Short, Brayton, Weimer and Rattray should be in the mix as well...
Stewart, Dungey, Alessi, Millsap, Metty
Da_m, forgot about short, and Brayton put them 4th and 5th
I am neither a James hater nor a fan, so here are the points as I see them indifferently:
1. With JGR, James had an A-1 team behind him, but an established team will serve him better. Thanks to their strong motorsports roots, JGR had the ability to machine, fabricate and develop any works parts that James could have ever wanted. The sky’s the limit. Take for example the alloy gas tank that was fabbed to give the bike a "slimmer" feel or the custom billet fork parts found on his bike. In some ways, they probably have better access and are more flexible (in some respects) to deliver one-off parts than some factory teams. That said, JGR maybe relied on James a bit too much to help develop the bike, the team and their program. Maybe he had too many choices. I believe James is a rider who needs to be on a long-time established factory team - one that has a pre-existing baseline to work from. The JGR and L&M teams weren't the right formula for him – neither was a recipe for continued success. He needs a team around him that can interpret his feedback (or lack thereof) to get the bike right. With Suzuki, this may be the right formula for him.
2. All of the talk about the bike not working or being inferior is rubbish. These guys are professionals, and are paid accordingly and conduct themselves as such. They need to ride, and more importantly, represent the brand(s) they are being paid to do so. Personally, I think talent, training and motivation play more of a key role in winning than the bike. Any pro-level bike is good and capable of winning - period. If the bike sucks, or your uncomfortable riding it, work to make it better. As numerous others have said, Milsaps had no problems running the JGR package. My opinion, you go out there every weekend and give 100% despite bad equipment, wrong team, etc. Decoster did this. Stanton did this. Ward did this. Charmichael did this. I’ll bet at some point in their careers the bike they were on wasn’t “perfect”.
Many have said James is not the best R&D rider. I think this is one of the main reasons why he struggled with JGR and the Pirelli tires. He couldn’t provide the beta needed to improve the product.
I can almost play out the conversations in my head....Jeremy: "So what don't you like about the bike James? What changes do we need to make?".....James: "It sucks.".......Jeremy, "Er, okay. Well, what can we change to make it better? Where do we start?"......James: "It sucks".......Jeremy: "Okay, let's start with the tires. Should we try a different compound?".....James: "I dunno, they suck."
I've had similar conversation with pro-racers that I've worked with - only to bang my head against the wall. They are insanely talented (like James) but are horrible at providing feedback. It's frustrating. And think of how frustrating it is for the sponsors. I'm positive Pirelli wants to make a great product. Moreover, one that James can win on. If you had a sponsored athlete that showed up at a race running a competitor's product, how would you feel? Considering all of the effort, time and money you as a company wrapped up in their program. You (as a brand) would be pissed. This is why I think James wants to be on a factory team. With Suzuki, he gets mechanics that have been in the game for a while that can read between the lines and give him the bike he needs. Also, he gets back on Dunlop tires and away goes all of his trepidation with the Pirellis. Case in point - remember the stink it caused when he ran Dunlops during one of the SX practice sessions? That showed me James was totally unconfident in any Pirelli product and probably felt forced into running them. Simply put, James likes Dunlop because Dunlop is easy.
3. I’m not sure I’d be so quick to hand out all of the pats on the back and accolades that, "made the switch and gave up a ton of money". You can best believe James has a healthy bonus program in place for winning and delivering titles. I’m positive both sides negotiated this. Suzuki is in the driver’s seat. If James wins, then they pay and get paid. If not, then it’s pocket change and a gamble that didn’t pay off. Look at the reality of the situation, Suzuki already has gotten more press this week with this announcement then they did all SX season…..And would sitting out really benefit his career? Even James realizes he needs to put a spark back into his program. While it is commendable to part ways and not collect a check, there is also a little self preservation and competitive instinct kicking in here.
If James’ true intentions were to switch because he feels Suzuki will give him the best shot at winning, then kudos to him. If he did it to get back into being a legitimate title threat for the outdoor title, even better! As another poster said, I love a gate full of fast guys in which anyone can win on any given weekend. As it been documented throughout motorsports, switching brands, teams, etc. can really revitalize a competitor’s career and stop the downward spiral. It was painful to watch James ride the later stages in the SX series. He was just going through the motions and seemed like he wasn’t fully there and had one foot out the door with JGR for quite some time. I fully respect James’ talents as a rider and when he’s switched on, he’s a force to be reckoned with. I hope to see a motivated and revitalized JS7 this outdoor season – it should make for some exciting racing!
Whew, sorry for the long post…..
kx pwr JGR is not a factory team, there sattelite with limited resourses and most of there so called trick parts can be bought off the shelf, albrecht should of been more hands on, he was more involved with what james was doing when he rode for LandM aka traction control conspiracy, as for AGMAN james live in florida, train and ride in florida i dont know were your from but in florida its just a little bit on the hot, humid nasty sticky walk out your door sweat side, you think he sits around and eats ho hos all day and watches t.v. The guys a machine he could go 40+2. Ive been riding yamahas since 1978, think i go and get me a Suzuki because yamaha thinks there 250f and there 450 are working and just fine the way thay are that may be if you a local racing on weekends. If we all say its has nothing to do with the bike than why did McGrath the King of Supercross the all time great with most SX wins race on the the same Honda FRAME for so many years until he could no longer hide it once the alumium frames made there debut and he could no longer hide it, he then went to a different brand because it took honda so long to get there frame right.
I just don't see JS7 being able to run the long motos consistently. I honestly think some of his issues the past couple of seasons have been due to lack of conditioning. Look how he can mop up heat races in SX, but in the mains most of his wads happen after the 10 lap mark. To me, that is a sign of fitness deficiency.
Say what you want about RD5 but the guy is a super-hard worker and along with RV2 is likely the most fit racer out there. He has a great combo of fitness, speed and consistency and these traits define the top outdoor Nationals racers, even more so than SX. I honestly think RD5's biggest competition is going to come from Brayton and Milsaps, and possibly Tyla Rattray (another super-fit outdoor specialist). JS7 will impress at times but his fitness and consistency will ultimately let him down.
hey Yamy-
if suzuki sucks so badly then why is it they've won more championships than yamaha the past what 6 years or something? and if your such a yamaha fan, I'm sure you'll be rooting for Davi Millsaps to lead the yamaha charge in motocross . maybe the top 5 will get hurt again and he'll squeak out a top 3 points finish. yamaha don't got anyone representing them in the 250 or 450 class. yamaha needs to get their bike figured out or no top rider will sign with them
@ Preston
I think the issue is that most of us are not interested in the sport we're so passionate about going all 'Gangsta' ...........leave that to the NBA. Would it kill James ( who had a little trouble with the law) put his hat on properly, sport a big smile and portray a professionalism attitude? He goes out of his way to find negativity....IMO
@ripdown ... ...CR , Rd , Rc , and a huge list of allmost everyrider out there , all wear backwards hats , Hell Reed Has enough Bling in his ears to rival Kanye West, You sound like a Real Fool with your hat comment , people like you are so visible these days , and a dying breed , stay away from the Nats. , lots of backward hats diamonds , low pants , and Tats. I Bet You Put On Your Hat Properly .... if you know what i mean !
dont want this sport going all Gangsta ....... you win the award for the dumbest post this Year ...... rotflmao
wow Preston...really thought we were making some inroads you and I.....but there you go being an idiot again. As I stated.....it was only my opinion. MX has always been a family sport but I suppose to appease guys like you and make it mainstream we gotta have sideways hats and pants on the ground! Awesome.
Don't throw out your racist card every time someone says something negative towards Stewart....makes you look like a fool and I generally respect most of your opinions. The best man in my wedding who remains to this day a great friend is Jamaican......draw your own conclusions.
My comment is far behind yours for dumbest post of the year!
I AM TYPING IN CAPS BECAUSE MY COMMENT IS VALIDER. "JBS" AND SOMETHING POSITIVE, OR NEGATIVE. STUFF ABOUT HIS HAT. AND HIS ATTITUDE. THINGS AND SUCH.
stop shouting
No way JGR would pay his huge salary and say if you don't want to race outdoors we will pay you anyway! Nobody has interviewed Coy yet. James always says that he races for the fans and its not about the money, BS!! How could anyone believe that BS is ridiculous. Since 2008 he has raced about 25% of the races and been paid triple what the champs are making for both SX-MX. How is that about the fans and not about the money! Also JGR has raced outdoors from day one, why would they ever pay him to stay home? All those team sponsors are paying JGR to have 2 top level guys racing SX and These PR interviews JS7 does at the end of each series he has under performed at are UNBELIEVABLE!
I think James will......oh, what's the point - the comment section is so long no one will never read my comment anyway.
Yoshimura is deep in horsepower technology. They've ran Suzuki's Quad program for years so, they know the motor and there's little doubt they can produce HP.
My question is whether they can set the chassis to perform at that level or not.
JS is no test rider. That is my official opinion from what history has shown me. Lucky for him MXA says to set the fork height & sag and you're basically good to go on the RMZ.
So, you've basically got a rocketship that handles like a razor and nobody on the bike or in the paddock knows how to set it up.............................Ought to be an exciting first couple rounds.
I think they should reach out to Goose and offer him $250K for setting up the bike this season and his "little black book" of notes. Money well spent.
smee113 I just read your comment and it was spot on.
hahaha, I can't get enough of that pose with the hat sitting on top of his head like a bird's nest on a telephone pole or something. We all wear hats, he sits under it. Maybe he hides a big container of Taco Bell cinnatwists under there for post ride snacking? SO glad to have James out there and giving us his all again. No wonder he calls it James Stewart Entertainment!!! Everything he does is entertaining (whether he meant it that way or not). RV should do his team introduction next year in full camo with facepaint and sniper grass under his hat.....that would be his version of whatever James is trying to pull off here. I know that sneer is giving Dungey douche-chills right now, he scared now.
Isnt ther a guy like him in golf that cant get the Mojo going also Hmm must be the weather/local no no I think they have some of the same sponsers..no.no... Its the hair cut it will do it every time.. no thats not it..Its just plain same old same old!!
No thats just James in his Halloween orange costume... remember when you dont have nothin to do time fly's he probably will be late aweek out when he's supposed to be at hangtown..Na he will be there... it will take about a week in the yellow taxi to get there but he will make it.........see ya Jimbo
Just Kidding over coarse Good luck Tiger, I mean James
The series would be a lot more interesting if Reed, Villopoto and Canard were healthy. That James is in the series just moves it from Sominex to No Doze.
Well if you listen to his pod-cast, James's contract doesn't start until 2013, so he's just racing this outdoor season to get back to his roots that got him where he feels he needs to be for the start of SX next season. Out doors is more suited to his racing style, because he can ride as hard as he wants on natural terrain, Although I enjoy SX, MX is where the men are separated from the boys, so we can speculate all we want to, proof will come to light at the end of the season... one thing is for sure, there will be some awesome racing this season especially if everyone stays healthy. And hate him or love him, you bet your ass you will be talking about JS7 and trying to emulate his style, and even if broken or tarnished, he will lay it on the line when the gate drops!!! It is funny though, the haters seem to always talk $#!^ about the guy, but they stay glued to his every move! And for you couch potatoes, just remember RC had his haters ss well, because he couldn't be beat for a long time, and people love a winner, as long as they aren't domination ALL the time.
cant believe i read all this mess. enough bashing,just enjoy the awesomeness of moto. i love a comeback,go Stew and everyone else for that matter. shiny side up...rubber side down..roost!
Yeah once these kids break away from the tit they should keep the parents away. Kinda on the same lines as the russian Gymnastics or any of the eastern block countries. Make big james stay home and clean the house or something stay out of the way. What did he do for a living before notorious JS7 anyway???????
I have to disagree with Jason. Stewart may be betting on himself, but not at the level Chad Reed is. James has yet to go start his own team, as Chad has done. James is still riding for someone else.
The bum is only racing the outdoors becuz Villipoto & Reed are out.I hope Dungey smokes him every moto.That's if Stewart is able to remain upright on 2 wheels for a whoe moto.
In the PING section We forget CR22..on the Zook..funny BC (Before Carmicheal)Nobody liked the Suzuki or thought it could do what it has done..I Dont Agree with letting Roger go..or the insulting offer he got..But Im happy for the Man at KTM now..great fit and a good bike,getter Better..with his Help.
I believe you arent gonna win Much..If you dont RACE outdoors..Every rider who tried was on his, or seen a down turn in SPEED..You cant just show Up and expect to Win..even in SX. Im Happy for James..I hope he makes the best of it.. The record book,is gonna be kinda tough to reach..but I would like to see him Compete again,Let Go of the TV stuff...and silence the Haters.. RACE yourself back into contention..Dont Over Push..and Do it for YOU James.Enough said.. Pick O/A 450 Dungey,Stewart,Metcalfe Top 3 followed by Milsaps Brayton,Wiemer, Rattray,etc..2 fiddy's Hmmm? Im Liking Eli..it may be him or the other Little hurricane Honda Guy.. followed by with some wins inbetween, the Pro curcuit team of Wison,el chuapacabra (whatever) and the #35 rounding out the top 5 O/A..
Stewart outdoors on a Suzuki: It won't be a perfect season (24-0), but it will be the perfect comeback...
A little off topic but does anyone actually know what JS7's true net worth really is?
Gotta love all you guys that have your noses up Bubbas' butt. It's an entertaining read. I won't get into why some of us don't blindly follow all the B.S. anymore. But here are a couple things to consider. JGR had the option of jumping on Zooks prior to this season. They stayed blue based on Stewies ok and Yamahas 5 yr support. The last team he rode for, he completely rode into the ground, literally. Kawi, who brought him up from a bean sprout, wouldn't even offer the man a contract after his undefeated 08 outdoor season. What does that say? This is it for Bubba. If he doesn't do something wicked this year.,he won't be getting any more factory rides. So clean off your noses and get into position. This may be the last time you get to spew some Bubba love.
Glad to see him on Suzuki as something didn't feel right about the JGR pairing and it could have just been JS. Although I see lot's of speed with lots of time on the ground and Dungey & KTM going home with the title this year.