Between the Motos: Justin Bogle
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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When GEICO Honda’s Justin Bogle entered the pro ranks at the tail end of the 2011 season, scouts heralded him not just for his speed, but for his intelligence, maturity and fun nature off of the track. So far in his rookie supercross season, the Oklahoma native has indeed shown speed, but on the mental end, he’s been involved in a few too many controversial incidents. After Malcolm Stewart took him out in Dallas, he slapped Malcolm’s helmet. A stall and a crash in Toronto left him yelling and guesturing at other riders both times. And in Houston, he crashed in practice and walked back to the pits without his bike, even though he and his bike were okay.
What’s Justin Bogle really like? We talked to him to find out in this week’s Between the Motos.
Racer X: Justin, the season was starting well. You had a podium, and pretty much had another except for a crash with a few turns to go. But that seemed to set a pattern—the last few weeks have not been so good.
The last few weeks have not been good, at all. I’ve been good in practice, my times have been good. But I’ve been making some bonehead moves in the races, and ended up on the ground quite a bit lately. I don’t know.
Is this a rookie thing? Do we chalk it up to that?
[Laughs] I mean, you can call it a rookie thing, if you want. I’m kind of sick of that, to be honest! I’m sick of hearing the rookie thing, I’d rather just get over it and just start doing better. I guess it takes baby steps.
Take me through what happens when it goes wrong. For example, that crazy, gnarly crash with Angelo Pelligrini on the finish line jump last week. What happened there from your perspective?
Obviously, I put myself in a bad position being in the back of the pack. I was trying to make up as many positions as possible, and crazy stuff happens when you’re back there. I obviously should have hung out and waited another corner before I tried to make the pass, but I was going for it, and ended up on the ground. I was so mad, emotions were going crazy. I’m just so over ending up on the ground and having stuff not go my way, I was just kind of letting the frustration out.
We gotta' throw in some fresh leg swag here.
Cudby photo
We had that in Toronto, we of course had the Malcolm Stewart incident in Dallas. Then we had a crash today where you walked off from your bike. What is going on?
I don’t know! I wish I knew because then I could fix it. I don’t feel like I’m out of control. I had a pretty good crash in practice today, and I didn’t have the best times in practice, but then I won my heat race, so I was thinking, Great, things are going my way now. Then I went into the first corner and got into that sweet first-turn pileup. Not where I want to be, but that’s where I have been.
But explain your reactions when this stuff happens. In Toronto, people were asking, “Why is he yelling at Pelligrini? It was his own fault for passing on the outside!” And also last week you stalled, got run into, and got mad. So here is what people want to know—are you just a punk?
[Laughs] I would like to not be thought of as a punk! I stalled in Toronto like you said, and I got hit a couple of times from, well he was behind me so I don’t know who it was. But I was kind of wondering why he hit me a couple times and didn’t just go around. But, like you said, it was my fault for being in that situation. I was just trying to get going and couldn’t. But the thing over the finish line, that was just me being so frustrated, that I just didn’t know what to do. Like I said, I’m tired of hitting the ground, I’m tired of not getting the results that I think that I can, it’s really been a little bit difficult to deal with. But it’s getting better.
But that’s just the emotions coming out. That’s not the real you, angry all the time?
It’s like I said on Twitter the other day, I’m just not going to be a robot. I’m angry, obviously, about not getting good finishes, hitting the ground, and not doing what I think I can do. I’ve been letting that get the best of me. I’m working on it. But the bad thing is, I’m normally a happy guy!
Not angry!
Cudby photo
Well that’s the point I’m trying to get at here. When we see you at the track, you don’t walk around all angry or trying to fight people!
No! Like you said, I show up to the track happy. I’m a happy guy most of the time! I’ve had one good race and the rest of the results have not been so good. I know that the team I’m on is one of the best, and they expect results, and I expect results. At least getting into the top five would be nice.
You have experienced guys on your team around you, and you work with Robbie Reynard who has been around a long time. Do they tell you to not get so down on yourself?
I live at Robbie’s place, so we talk about a lot of stuff. Obviously, I need to keep my cool. We’re working on it.
So you’re not rolling into the pits looking for fights?
Not rolling into the pits looking for fights! I really think I’m one of the happier guys around. I’m just getting frustrated at the races. I don’t know, I’m going to have to deal with things better.
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Justin is a good Oklahoma boy! He is used to the success of his amatuer career and expects the same at this level...from the out side looking in.. he is pressing to hard..he needs to relax and let the race come him..instead of trying to force his will on the race...Keep your head and play the hand your dealt...Experiance and maturity come from making mistakes and correcting them.. the Cushing Cannon has all the tools, he just needs to use them properly..
I agree
First year is SX is always tough. Just wait till outdoors, that is where Bogle will shine! Remember he led most of the second moto at Pala...
I really like Bogle and Barcia, I just wish these guys would say, "Hey I owe a big apology to my team, my fans, and these other riders that I've been disrespecting (call them by name). I want to win but that is NO EXCUSE for me acting like a jerk." A few apologies like that would sure make it easier to keep cheering them on. Seems like their teams would send them to PR classes or something. Someone needs to teach them how to sound like they are really sorry for acting like 2 year olds.
@oshow11, I agree. This article's questioning and the other one with Bam Bam is obviously designed to clear the air with the fans, BUT hey, we know what happened, we are all watching it on TV! It is what it is, say sorry and move on.
Plus, I don't think anyone thinks Bogle and Barcia are walking around looking for fights, it's obvious that they are just passionate about winning and they have taken it too far a few times.
HandlebarDragger hit the nail on the head! Best advice I've seen here so far.
Damn most of these posts must be from old people. I don't think they should do anything differently then be themselves. This is motorcross not golf. Because of these comments and opinions you have, most veterans walk around like robots with 0 personality. I have more respect for the bad boys of this sport then I do the ones who do not express themselves. Had more respect for RV when him and JLaw threw down on the MX track. Now not so much. I think most of these "profesional opinion makers (aka old people)" need to remember their roots.
Sincerely,
CLASS ACT
I wonder if having to wait for the east coast series to start got these guys extra cranked up? I dont remember seeing this out west. And we've been reading everyone saying how Larocco will straighten these guys out. Whats he's the one pouring gas on these guys? I mean, its working! They have turned Team Gieco into a powerhouse and Pro Circuit into the Sisters of the Poor, and I never thought I'd see that. Strange. Focus boys...focus.
Good point, xxktm. I do not believe however, that we will be counting team PC out of the nats altogether.I think these kids have a lot of good people around them and they are aware of their professional clocks ticking and they get frustrated. It happens to a lot of people, myself included. I hope GEICO's time is here. I'm tired of the PC dominated 250F class and look forward to team(s) KTM & Honda's talent and hope they will put a hurting on the PC squad this outdoor season.
As for PW29's comments, yeah, I remember back when I knew EVERYTRHING. The "professional opinion makers" quite possibly act robotic because we've all made azzes of ourselves enough to know better now but, feel free, the learning experience will be invaluable.
Two types of people get remembered in this game - Punks, and Champions...
How memorable was Deegans Ghostie, for his only SX win.
J-Law, not much of a sucessful pro career, but hell, hes remembered for stirrin the pot!
These GEICO boys are goin down in the memory banks of this sport!
PW29 wow, you obviously must be young and if you act like them obviously not a CLASS ACT as you wrote. Ever seen that movie with Owen Wilson when he is talking to some girl who is hanging with a Band member who is trying to act all cool cause he is in a band and dissing Owen caus he is old. And then Owen (the old guy dressed nice and such) puts him in is place by explaining he may be the older one but he is the type of people that owns those clubs and pays these peons like him to play in his club. Same deal here, act like a punk alwasy be a punk and you be clubbin your whole life, while the 'older' professional guys write those big bonus checks and will be doing it much longer than guys acting like Bogle and Bracia will be turning laps. Message is grow up and be a professional like you are piad to be.
someone needs to babysit these geico whiners. bogle is a baby, and barcia is a cross jumping lil poorsport lil beeotch. Him and vincent were teamates most of last year and supposedly friends too. I've lost all respect for bam bam, losing respect slowly for bogle, especially when he threw up his hands after he stalled his bike in the corner.
Carlsbad - Your last paragraph is classic!!!
OrganDonor must be a Pro-Circuit fan... Go Factory Connection -Gieco!!!
Every now and then, somebody loses control of their composure, and becomes an emotional wreck. At the very least, they become angry and lash out at their opponents, transgressors, or innocent bystanders.
And what happens next? Most people are extremely uncomfortable with displays of raw emotion. There is nothing wrong with being human. Being watched by 40,000 people on a jumbotron just adds an immeasurable amount of pressure to the situation and subsequent responses.
It is not OK to lash out in anger: the more you do it the easier it becomes.
Composure must be practiced and learned by anyone who is expected to perform at the highest level of our sport.
Some of these dudes act like little girls, then try to be tough guys out on the track or during interview (for example barcia's " i guess its bam bam time " after Wharton barely touched him) , then when they get called out they do the apology act....The Malcom slap was riduculous...not because of his actions..but because it was a slap that you would expect from your girlfriend.....then in Toronto, getting all mad and jumping up and down only to then act like he was in pain......the stiff arm he gave Malcolm in Houston going down the start was cool though....so he got one man point back...
Right on KilloMoto!!
Some guys that write checks make less then the people they are writing checks to. Oh wait whats that? Brian Deegan is a multi millionaire that owns a very succesful business? Yes that is correct. Yes, I agree that some people take it to far however, these riders are kids. Thats what kids do. Learn from your mistakes but don't hide your personality because of it. I'm not a punk kid. Yes, I'm young and I was forced to grow up alot sooner then most, just like most of these kids. After reading alot of threads on this website I now understand why most pros turn their backs on these so called fans. Long live punk asses in this sport (unless those reactions jeopardize health or lives). Makes this sport fun to watch.
P.S. Class Act was sarcasm. This is all I hear, it's a broken record. Justin Bogle, Class Act. This kid is the future of our sport. Get used to him being in the public eye.
@PW29
With your first post, I thought you were just throwing a nice cast of bait.
However with your 2nd post, I've come to the conclusion that you're actually dumb.
Go smoke another bowl BRO...
Kid is a Barney and I do not leave comments often
HandlebarDragger: So let me get this straight.... you've lost all respect for 5 time world champion Roger Decoster? I'm sure you yourself have won many world championships in your day and know how easy it is to do, being you are so full of wisdom and advice.
Tigole - Hate to break to you "BRO" but I don’t smoke weed. Nor do I wear black socks w/ dickie shorts and a big baggy shirt. I also own a very successful business at the age of 26. You my friend can go smoke another bowl.
PW29, I think you are a bright "kid", but if you target an entire sector of this forum, "old" people, and speak negatively about them, be prepared to catch some flak
I'm not about to make an excuse for someone's inappropriate behavior, but I do believe in the case of Bogle and Barcia, we have to add their circumstances into the mix. They are both extremely young, extremely popular, extremely rich (or soon will be), and extremely talented in this sport.
I remember what I was like when I was 16, 17, 18 (yeah, I'm one of the old guys here) and while I wasn't a punk, I wasn't always on my best behavior all of the time. And I didn't have the situation or pressure these guys do at their age.
The sport has changed tremendously and the money and pressure being exerted on these guys to succeed has got to have an effect. Not everyone is going to be able to contain their emotions 100% of the time under those conditions.
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point. My hope is that they will continue to mature and get past these emotional outbursts and pour that energy and raw emotion into winning championships. On the other hand, if they continue to be bone-heads, they will have to deal with the aftermath themselves.
I know it's corny, but you reap what you sow.
As usual, just my 2 cents
Good thing you guys don't watch the NHL.
I really don't have anything against bogle but I hate how he always flips out. He says he's not a punk when he really is he is just like Jason lawerence, has amazing talent but is way to into himself you can't always win. Let the race come to you don't force the issue and be way to agressive
Wow, what a lot of wasted space in this discussion. If you are what some considered old, remember that you were young once and testosterone is a huge driving force at that age and they are still children or young adults, it takes time to mature so give this kids a break. To answer some of the wiser comments, if you as a racer want to learn grace to become a champion you have to ask Jeremy McGrath, he was as gracious in loosing as he was winning, he congratulated whom ever beat him that night, point is he loved the game and in return the fans loved him. Do you remember when RC came on the scene, no one liked him because he had an attitude, then he matured and the crowed slowly loved him as they did McGrath, heads up to a lot of you on this forum, bad boy or not it makes great press and it gives you idiots with your BS thought process a place to vent, grow up and love the game, remember what goes around comes around so if they choose to be agro on the field of battle so be it, it will bite them in the ass later, weve all seen it for as long MX & SX has been around. Chill out people, most don't go to a boxing match to see guys dancing and hugging they go to see someone get knocked out, NASCAR, people don't go because it's fun they want to see the big crash, MX & SX is the same as mentioned above about RV and JLaw's brawl, one thing comes to mind when that happens, long time rivalry, these kids having been racing each other for a long time before being in the public eye. This is an older mx pro talking, I'm not that old mentally or physically but i do understand the game, the AMA will take care of any wrong doing so stop the quarrel