5 Minutes with...Lance Vincent
Tuesday, April 3, 2012 | 3:45 PM
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PrintSince we interviewed Justin Barcia about his Houston incident today (click HERE to read), we felt it only fair to ring up Munn Racing/Moto Innovations KTM rider Lance Vincent and get his take on the situation. Here is what he had to say.
Racer X: Hi, Lance. First of all, are you hurt from the crash?
Lance Vincent: I’m actually not injured. I went to the emergency room because I was coughing up blood, but they did x-rays and said my ribs are bruised along with my lung. But they said it’s not too bad, I should be able to take a week off and just go from there.
Only motocross riders would consider a trip to the emergency room and bruised ribs and a lung actually being good.
Yeah!
Vincent currently sits 20th in the Lites East Region points standings.
Simon Cudby photo
Okay so take me through the incident from your side. What do you think happened?
Like I said last night on the PulpMX show, yeah, I saw the blue flags, but I was looking over my shoulder to see exactly where he [Barcia] was. But from my perspective, I was racing Kyle Peters for 11th place, so I wasn’t just going to stop and let my race go away. So I just kept checking over to see where he was, I didn’t see him anywhere close enough to me to where I would have to move over to the side of the track to let him go. I mean, we’re pretty good friends, I stayed at his house the whole two weeks around Daytona and Indy. I left, but there were no harsh feelings at all. I think his dad just wanted us to leave so Justin wouldn’t have as many distractions, but he told me that and I totally understood that, I had no problems with that whatsoever. His dad said thanks for understanding, and we moved on.
As far as the race, I was just racing with Kyle [Peters]. He [Barcia] went inside of me in the whoops after the start, then I jumped the triple on the right, he was on the left. I was expecting him to jump that double and hit the outside, but he went from the outside to the inside. I mean, I really don’t think it was either of our faults, it was just a racing incident. But, he does cross over on people on jumps like that. I think on lap two, he did it to [Ken] Roczen right before the whoops near the finish line. I don’t think cross jumping should be anywhere in racing, but whatever. It’s over.
You ended up on the ground hurting, so I guess jumping into someone the way you did would have been a crazy way to try to take someone out.
Yeah, again, I had no intentions, at all, of taking Justin down. He’s my buddy and I would never take him out on purpose.
Well, that is something that added to the drama here, because you had been riding at his house, and he mentioned today that you had a little incident in Toronto, also. But you weren’t enemies coming into this race?
No, no problems at all. Even the incident in Toronto, we talked it out, I said, “Sorry I didn’t see you there,” and he was like “No worries, bud.” So we were cool. No hard feelings going into Houston at all, it was just one of those things that happened.
So, after the race in Houston. What happened there?
Well, when I was laying on the ground with the medic, he kinda runs over there and just pretty much flipped out. He pretty much said everything, but at the end, before he takes off, he just said, “I’m going to come over to your rig and beat the eff out of you.” And, I think you can read my lips on TV, I said, “eff off” or something like that. Anyway, I don’t care who it is, if they say something like that, I want to find out if they’re really going to do it, or what I should expect. So he said he was going to come over to my pits, but I obviously never saw him over there, so I walked over to his truck to talk to him about it. I went over with my mom and dad and that’s it. Obviously, people saw me walking over there after an incident like this, so people started following me over there. I don’t know if it was my fans, his fans, friends, whatever, I don’t know, they just started following me over there. I guess the GEICO guys thought that whole group was just my people. But it wasn’t, it was just my mom and dad with me. Anyway, he wasn’t there, I didn’t get to talk to him about it. I just left and that’s where it went.
This is Vincent's second pro season, and first with Munn Racing/Moto Innovations KTM.
Simon Cudby photo
You rode for that team last year.
Yeah I know all the mechanics, the suspension guy, Mike [LaRocco, Team Manager}, I know Jeff [Majkrzak] the owner, I know all of those guys and I get along with all of them. I’m not a trouble maker kid. It was just one of those freak accidents. It’s no one’s fault, really.
From here you just move on?
Yeah, I’m just taking this week off to heal up for New Orleans. I’d like to show up there like this never happened, and just move on.
Last thing: how’s your season going in general? It’s year two as a pro for you.
Yeah, it’s year two. I’ve had some ups and downs, and I’m just struggling trying to figure out some things. It’s a new team and we’re learning, so that’s the biggest thing. We’ll just keep working and plugging away.
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There it is from the horse's mouth. NOT AN ISSUE. Party's over folks, nothing to see here, move along.
Reading his lips when he told Barcia to "F" off was classic. Love it.
glad to see both sides of the story. I'm sure that both riders can move on from there. as Lance said, he can't know when someone is going to cross jump in front of you, and there's nothing you can do once you commit to a jump. Watching the races, Lance did check up coming out of the corner to let Bam Bam by, not his fault it finished the way it did. I didn't think he was "racing barcia" IMHO.
bad for both parties involved, but worse that Barcia had such a poor reaction to the events.
bambam is a skinny little chump, at millvillie my girlfried thought he was a topless ckick from behind!
My mommy is making spaghetti tonight
Vincent takes no responsibility for not heeding the blue flags. It may have been an accident but it would certainly help his cause to apologize for his part.
Sounds reasonable to me.
You are right.. straight from the horses mouth he basically ignored the blue flags.
Don't care what anyone thinks, he's at fault. However, that doesn't excuse Barcia's outburst.
As RC has said.......There's a race going on... and you ain't in it. I love that saying.
What are blue flags when you're racing for 11th?!
Weird. In the video of the whole incident I didn't see Lance looking over for Barcia once? I saw Barica look to see where Lance was. Also find it weird that he was out partying in the club that same night. Lance is such a wreakelss rider. Ex: In the heat race he hit the tough blocks and almost ran off the track after that double. Vincent is a sketchy, out of control rider who needs to know his place. He was getting lapped, LAPPED and blatantly said he ignored the blue flags.
PS he wasn't even close to Peters. There was no "race" that he claims to having be in.
look Barcia was slow rolling the last few turn's and Vincent was trying to better his finish. You could see Vincent looking........like com on pass! Wt- ? and to boot cross jumped in front of Vincent.
MotoX you are correct, Peters wasn't even close
one more thing what's with the crying.
Boot cross in front of Vincent? You must have completely ignored the previous 14 laps where Justin and everyone else were taking that line. That was the main line. Better his finish? VINCENT BLOWS! Open your eyes kid. Vincent ignored the blue flags for almost a whole lap! He was in Justin's way WAY too long! Lance is just a shitty, stupid rider. Simple as that.
watch again MotoX350. Lance was looking over his shoulder. And the whole last lap barcia was on cruise control. lance tried to let him by at one point and barcia kept going slow so Lance decided to pick it up again. 11th place is a big deal and he wanted it!!!! Especially for a privateer team/rider in his second year. If you watch Barcia cross over Lance (which he did), Lance had absolutely no where to go. Barcia left him no space to do anything. The only way Lance could have avoided that impact was to roll the double, which he shouldn't have to do! Barcia had a big lead and could have taken the outside to allow room for Vincent (who he knew was close since Barcia looked at him in the air before cross jumping him on the next double).
Lance could have rolled the double, Barcia should not have cross jumped in front of him. It is a Racing Incident. As carlsbad said, "move along"
What's with the crying? More like what's with you being completely oblivious to the fact that the kid was trying to break a record, not settling for a second place finish when he led 14 laps, getting taken out by a lapper whom ignored blue flags for almost an entire lap; I could continue if you'd like? Justin rides with his heart and was furious? Should be saying what's with Roczen revving, fist pumping, cheering when he lucked out and has finished second to Barica ALL YEAR lol. He did not straight up win that race and wouldn't have. There's to your "one more thing".
Kxpwr18: BARICA DIDNT CROSS JUMP, that was THE MAIN LINE. The mistake LANCE MADE ON THE LANDING OF THE PREVIOUS JUMP FORCED HIM, LANCE VINCENT, SKTECHY RIDER TO COLLIDE WITH BARCIA. If you think Barica had any influence in that collision you need strong contacts.
Lance shouldn't of been that close to Barcia anyway. You can clearly see that once Barcia was going by, Vincent sped right back up to his wheel.
Maybe he doesn't know where his brake lever is.
Now that I have seen and read all the sides of this " huge " story, I have to say that mistakes were made by both riders and nobody is completely in the right or wrong here. I do however, believe Lance's comments above and they do seem to fit the events as I saw them on TV. Both riders should apologize to each other and lets move on to New Orlean's and actually concentrate on racing again. No need for name calling here (MotoX350), Stuff happens in professional racing...lets move on already. P.S. I am not a fan of either rider just for the record.
This is all on JB. He has got to QUIT cross jumpinng. He does it all the damn time and as Vincent said, not a smart thing to do.
Vincent sounds like a lot better kid than JB does that is for sure.
Hey Vinny, Guess you won't be riding at Barcia's or piling up there for free again, you blew it lap boy.
I think if anyone who was in Vincents shoes would have done the same thing. I understand that yes he was being lapped, but Barcia also didnt need to make the pass or cross jump, which he frequently does. And those who are saying that Peters wasnt even close doesnt really matter, its racing anything can happen. Peters could have went down and then Vincent would be in the top 10. You have to remember that these guys are racing for a job. And being in the top 10 is good for them especially if a contract is ending at the end of the season. I dont blame Vincent and i dont necessarily blame Barcia, but Wah Wah, i mean Bam Bam should have acted more like a mature young adult rather than a baby who just had his pacifier taken away from him.
TOTALLY Lances fault on the track 100%, rookie mistake- HE was crossing out to hit the berm, HE was behind Barcia, HE was lapped, HE was blue flagged, HE ran into the BACK of barcia. Intentional-no, stupid- yes
There was NOTHING Barcia could have done to prevent this, unless the 1st place rider is supposed to watch those behind them. Barcia was going for the main line he had been hitting all night (all the faster riders) had just passed a stubborn lapper and was cruising it in when lance crosses over BEHIND him and hits his rear tire. Unreal some say Barcia crossed Lance (go watch it on MXA folks its not even a question)
Barcias ONLY mistake was letting emotion run him after the race. I would have been VERY pissed
The only thing Lance did wrong in not moving over and letting Barcia past with saying that there is nothing wrong with following a rider that has lapped you. Justin on the other hand has a bad habit of jumping across the track and that is BS. James does this also. Most of the time it works out fine for every body, but when it goes wrong it is the riders fault that jumped across the track. How do you expect a person to stop when his wheels are not on the ground. Lance said it correct it was a racing incident. He is taking responsibility for his part, I do not hear Justin doing the same, so obviously Justin thinks that cross jumping in front of another rider is ok. Let's see how he feels when someone does it to him and he crashes. No doubt it will be the other riders fault.
It looked to me like Barcia was jumping outside to inside (the main line) and Vincent was jumping inside to outside to catch the berm. BOTH riders were cross jumping. This incident was 100% Vincent's fault for not getting out of the way. Placing blame doesn't change what happened, hopefully they will learn from this experience and move on. Although it will be interesting to see what Barcia does when he laps Vincent in New Orleans.
Kind of reminds me of what happened with Chisholm and Reed a couple years ago.
"There was NOTHING Barcia could have done to prevent this"..... ah yes, Justina could have been aware of his surrounding that he was lapping someone on his right and easily went a little wider. EASILY!!. He cross jumpedon Roczen a couple different times in the first two laps. He does it ALL THE TIME!! It may have been the main line, but who cares. Sometimes you have to get out of the main line to pass a lapper. He is a danger to everyone on the track and he easily could have avoided this by using his head and a little respect for once.
@KXpwr18 Got it right! Barcia had the big lead and should have stayed clear of the lapped rider. Being anywhere near a top 10 is awesome and all your results matter. The whole thing was unfortunate for both parties.
What are you guys talking about--Peters wasn't even close? He was fifteen feet in front of them! With three corners and some whoops before the finish line, that's really close.
Barcia GOT BY Vincent, then slowed after the triple so Vincent caught back up to him. He thought Barcia was going outside, so he tracked left to follow him, but Barcia surprised him by jumping back to the inside. It happens. Barcia went outside on the previous lap, so obviously it was a legitimate line.
Enough with this blue flag business. If you're within two seconds of being lapped, pull off and take whatever position you were in.
You see a blue flag, you slow down and DON'T go near the leader. PERIOD!!!!
No one cares about your race for 11th.
That kid does that to me, I take a BOOT to his head after the race.
BARCIA - You are a winner.....do not listen to the L-O-S-E-R-S out there saying you need to apologize. DO NOT APOLOGIZE.........RC,Bob Hannah, Rick Johnson would grab that kid by the hair and shave his face in the dirt if he did cost them a win like he did you.
I have watched the race several times and beleive the incident is 100% Vincents fault.... it is sad to see lappers play such a big role in a race, especially with two turns to go until the finish. Just like others have said quoting RC- "A race is going on and you ain"t it"..... end of story and I think as a racer, I would have been super pissed as well and might have gotten off my bike like Preston did with Stewart and have a few up close words for Vincent.
Sorry Lance, if you are a lapper and run into the leader from behind, you are at fault. Under no circumstances should you be close enough to someone lapping you that your lines cross or any contact occurs. I saw something about to happen when I saw that he was racing Barcia and not conceding to being lapped. You could just see it coming......and then it happened. Barcia is an ass for flipping out like some spaz, but it wasnt a "racing incident".
Those of you who think that a blue flag means you should slow down and pull over need to read the rule book.
Barcias a doouch, he cross jumps people every race and this time it back fired on him and he throws a hissy fit. 14 sec lead, just ride around the lapper. Can't wait till somebody else knocks his block off,,,!
The rulebook outlines about 4 things a lapper should do when being lapped and NOT ONE says anything about racing the leader or ignoring that you are being lapped. It doesn't say go faster, it doesn't say block the leader. If the rulebook doesn't state to get out of the way, why are there blue flags to begin with and why is the penalty for ignoring the rules potnetially being black-flagged? What do the blueflags signify if not to get out of the way of the leaders? The blueflags are pretty pointless if there is no mandate to stay clear of the leader's progress. Reading comprehension helps when reading said rulebook.
Stantdm, what do the blue flags signify in your opinion? Would "Move out of the fast line" not mean move over in your opinion? There isn't much more to say, if you don't move over you're impeding the leader's progress. Pretty simple to me.
From page 27 of the SX rulebook:
Solid Blue Flag :
• Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster
riders.
• When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
• Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not
impede the faster riders progress.
• Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at
the discretion of Race Director.
Vincent did nothing wrong, he stayed on the inside line. Barcia had it in the bag and blew a nut trying to take the fast line, sucks for him. Seems like Roczen gave one away to Barcia earlier in the series, it always seems to even out in the end doesn't it?
Scrap the blue flags, everyone should get to race!
@SargentRock Ok tuff guy you wouldnt have taken a boot to no ones head. All you guys saying it was Vincents fault prob have never raced a race in your life or have never had someone cross jump in front of you, There's nothing you can do it happens too fast. An those saying who gives a shit about Vincents 11th place think about how happy you'd be with an 11th in the pro class. Think about how fun it would be to watch only the top 3 guys race each other. BORING!!!! Barcia acts like a spoiled little high school girl, grow up an act your age act like a pro, sad part is I was a big Barcia fan until this an everything leading up to this, He's a dirty racer which is fun to watch sometimes but its time he gets a taste of it for him self..... An when he dose he's CRYS an throughs a fit like a 3yr old. They should have black flag him cause the only thing thats gonna teach that little baby is taking points away from him, Money means nothing to him!!! I hope that whole lites class goes after him every single race from here on...
Try that in the big bike class an see what happens oh wait he did an what happened Dungey put him on the ground haha So cant wait for next year, Bet he dosent have the balls to do it again in with the big boys
okay people move along you can get back to bashing the Stewarts now,,,,,,hurry along ....no more to see hear.
Vincent hit barcia when he was 4' from the far left of the track, Lance had crossed over from the center of the track to Barcia, Barcia had BARELY started to move to the main line he had used ALL race when LANCE crosses over and HIT barcia.
WATCH it on MXA before more bull is posted here.
These posts kill me. BKR, the rulebook states hold your line, which Vincent did. What is a rider to do when getting lapped on the last lap, then the leader slows his pace? Slow your pace and follow him and roll the jumps? Barcia cut to the inside, and slowed his pace also. It's racing, it's unfortunate, but sh*t happens. I am a huge Barcia fan, but like mentioned before he is known for cross jumping on other riders. He did it pretty bad to Roczen earlier in the race. And with a lot of young riders he will mature and learn to handle things a little better.... Hopefully.
Sargentrock
SeargentRock, how old are you, 12?? MotoX350, so Vincent sucks. How did you finish in your last AMA SX race?
That's what I thought.
Tonewall, lol
I watched the incident again today and all I can say is that it was probaly 90% vincent's fault and 10% barcia's. If you look at vincent land off the jump before the incident, he totally landed skiddish which resulted in him turning hard to the left towards barcia. Sure, if Barcia would've jumped straight forward instead of turning slightly towards the inside the acceident would have been averted but clearly, Vincent was more at fault for coming clear over towards barcia after the jump before. It was a racing incident but there is no reason why Vincent should have kept pressuring Barcia for that long...if you're getting lapped then get the hell out of the way PERIOD. He was racing for 11th or whatever but he was well enough ahead of the next rider to back it down a notch for a few seconds until barcia gets well enough ahead. Vincent acts like it wasn't his fault at all in these interviews which makes me think he should have got a brain scan at the ER instead of X-rays...cmon vincent get your sh*t together man....On the other hand, Barcia's taken out so many riders in the past that I was kind of glad to see it happen to him.
BK-R, Thanks for posting that section. I take the rule book at its statement. Certainly, if conditions permit, you should move out of the fast race line (whatever a racer thinks that might be) but it doesn't say anything about slowing down. In most cases we see that happening, riders look over and take the wide line in a corner. In Vincents case perhaps because he is in a race trying to make top ten maybe he isn't in a position to move out because of the traffic around him. My point is only that it doesn't say slow down and pull over. It goes on to say hold your line and not to ride in an erratic manner. Some posters seem to think that a person being lapped is supposed to slow down and pull over. That is not the case.
Vincent crashed before he even hit Barcia- when he came up too short on the last jump. Just a total squid move.
Jason; Once again you act as mediator in this little docu-drama of sorts. Nice follow-up. I read the entire interview. I also re-watched the entire race, stopping, pausing, rewinding, slo-mo, stop action, repeat etc, etc, etc more times than I care to admit. Especially the last two laps and, I have to say the way Vincent explains (in detail) is how I saw the race. Barcia was passing lapped riders and he would get (close) to Vincent but not so close as to where Vincent was hindering Barcia's racing line. When he finally came up on Vincent close enough to make a pass in the left-hander, Vincent looked over his shoulder (as he had been doing) moved to the outside and let Barcia by. What gets more confusing is just at the moment Barcia cleared that last jump before the collision corner he looked over his shoulder at Vincent then came across Vincents line but...Vincent was crossing from the inside to the outside and they crossed over into one another is what I thought. If Vincent would have not crossed over to the outside and stayed on the inside Vincent very possible would have clipped Barcia's rear anyway. But I do not buy that Vincent was ignoring the Blue flag as Barcia was never that close until it was time to pass and he did.
In summary, I saw the same race as Vincent described to a "T"
I would be a defense witness on his behalf, and lose no sleep after the trial.
Now, can we all go have a beer, and move on, Please!
Say Good Night, Gracie!
Peace...
PS "And Barcia is Buy'n!!! Another round for the House, Bartender! Yee Haw!"
Casey, I'm a huge Barcia fan, have always been.
But I saw the same race that you watched and agree with you 100% on what I perceived happened. Unfortunately on these flame boards, if you like a rider then they can do no wrong.
The AMA needs to start fineing these lappers who don't obey the blue flags. Vincents lap times were 4 seconds slower than Barcias yet he held him up for a lap and a half. I think Barcias karma is catching up to him, last year he almost killed Dungey on the 450 while Dungey was in a title fight. Barcia said he learned his leson and it won't happen again. How come he didn't learn his lesson at Bercy when he almost started a riot? I think we will see this from Barcia for years to come. Also that crossover at Houston looked a lot like what Alessi did to K-dub a few races back. The AMA needs to do something so that we don't have 6 of the top 10 guys out at the half way point of the season.
Their really is no point to this all the Barica lovers are gonna defend him no matter what he does. Just like im sure they all defended him after the Bercy incident also. The whole cross jumping thing just reminds me of Pala last season with Wilson and Bagget almost going at it after the race. Vincent is basically gonna get heat for it because he was a lapper and Barcia is just Barcia nothing changes with him.
I've never led a supercross race of any kind, but even at chicken lic's, with 2-3 corners to go, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM LAPPERS".....specially when she's in the bag.
"But, he does cross over on people on jumps like that."...... We have all seen it many times!!
.I’m going to come over to your rig and beat the eff out of you.” ..... Then would he run away like in France?? LOL
It is so clear why the world is the way it is.
Motohead: The rule states "hold your line (ie don't ride erratic)" AFTER you have moved out of the fast line at the FIRST chance you get. One comes first, then the second. Does every rule have to be spelled out to the nth degree so everyone can understand it and not interpret it for their own purposes? Everyone knows what the damn "fast line" means as many tracks are defined as "one-lined". Does an AMA official have to stand there and paint a stripe on the "fast line" so all the lappers understand? If it takes the leader a full lap to get by a lapper after he has been putting 5 seconds a lap on him for the furst ten laps, then the lapper is without a doubt ignoring the blue flags. We have all seen it many times over where a Villopoto (or Barcia) is destroying the field and lapping 10th place at the midpoint and then they hit the roling road block. I can't take how people insert personal thougth processes (which are never all that efficient) into their interpretation of black and white rules. Someone needs to excplain why they bother having a blue flag if the lapper isn't supposed to ride any differently. I can't believe how many people see that "hold your line" portion and think that means you are supposed to ride like no one is lapping you. People, they're the worst. I often wonder if the reason people litter is because there isn't a sign everywhere saying they can't as if the only place you can't litter is where you see "no littering", kinda like when you see a No Parking sign.
This also reminds me that so many here race or have raced, which is why there is such a wide range of idiocy on the track. Some think it's ok to smash into you for an attempted pass, others think being lapped means it's ok to race the leader, others think it's ok to cross-jump (the new word of the day?) others think roosting medics is ok as long as you're good and mad. Back to the littering thing, how many of you have seen the MX tracks parking/pits after all the morons head home? I've been behind trucks full of bikes leaving the track and watching as full bags of McDonald's garbage comes flying out the windows. I forget sometimes what we're dealing with.
My motobrain told me when he was doing it ,,,,"pretty fkn wreckless for a last lap win in the bag".......and BAM.....youngster makes a huge mistake folks, nothing more, nothing less.
I am not a Barcia fan in fact I do not like him. But for those who own a video recorder that still support Vincent in this, then you gotta be one of those lapper dudes.
BKR, where it gets tricky in a situation like this is where the leader slows down on the final lap. If the leader decides to roll every jump on the last lap, does that mean that any riders behind him need to line up and roll behind him? I agree 100% there are times when guys don't pay attention to the flags and are in their own battle. But like you said if Barcia is 5+ seconds a lap faster, then he obviously slowed down on the last lap. Like Vincent stated in his interview, he did not expect Barcia to jump to the inside. My whole point is if the leader is passing lappers on the last lap, don't slow down slower than the guys you are passing, and then not expect them to keep their pace, they are in a race too, be it shooting for a top 5, top 10, whatever. It was a racing incident that had multiple factors that caused it and I am not saying Vincent did nothing wrong. What gets me is the disrespectful ignorant comments on here like Vincent blows, he sucks, he was in 11th and needs to get off the track, etc.
I find it interesting that in interviews of Barcia he refers to Vincent at "the lapper", and in interviews of Vincent he refers to Barcia as "Justin".
There you have it. Barcia´s dad wanted Lance Vincent to leave because he thought other people would distract JB.
That´s typical for parents who are desperately trying to make their kids succesful athletes. These kids always end up being a**holes. You can see that in any kind of sport. Kids that would do anything to win just to get some love from their parents. Actually pretty sad.
@Motohead279; Thanks, that's nice to know you agree. I tried to be objective in the multiple re-views, to the point of looking for Vincent errors. This was way before I read the above interview. If Vincent had told another angle, other than what he did, I would have called BS, I had to laugh when I read the interview, for his honesty alone.
Even down to the F-Off he exclaimed to Barcia's rant post race track-side..
For the record.... Cross jump= jumping from left to right or right to left over a jump.
Holding your line= not cross jumping
coming over on someone= putting your front wheel in front of theirs and taking their line.
Do you think RV would have cross jumped in front of a lapper????
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Lance should've checked up. He was a lapper and should have given Barcia the right away.
he's got to be as sick of barcia as I am. u see him crossjumping roczen on the opening laps. I was pumped when lance told him to efff off.
why does barcia think everybody should get out of his way. this is racing not tiddlywinks bam bam. zat little kid sux
motox350 your an idoit... i for got you know all ur the best rider ever cuz ur so famous an the best rider u know all... dude it is on both riders an dude with this sport anything can happen at any given moment an as a rider u need to relize that and could happen to u at any time.. i know bam is human an let his emotions get to him. but he should know that crap like that will give him a bad rep
@Motohead269 Barcia didn't slow down on the last lap he was road blocked by Vincent and who was rolling jumps? Barcia was ahead for 75 yards and that was a triple and a double that they both jumped! Did you watch the same race I did? Where did Barcia slow down or roll anything? I'm not a Barcia fan at all but Vincent was carrying beef from Ontario and doing everything he could to stay in front of Barcia. Lappers need to get out of the way of the leaders A.S.A.P! end of story. None of this would have happened if Vincent would have moved over for a tenth of a secnd like the rules say. When Barcia came up on Vincent he was in a long battle with 2 other guys yet he pulled a 150 yards on those guys in a lap and a half trying to race with Barcia. When Barcia got in the battle between RV and Dungey in outdoors and crossed over and almost killed RD was worse so Karma comes in strange ways. With injuries the way they are the blue flag rules need to be reinforced more than ever. Anyway Barci never slowed in the 75 yards he was infront of Vincent, he couldn't it was all jumps. Sorry for my rant but it amazes me how people see things the wyt they want. It all boils down to Vincent didn't yeild to the blue flag, none of this would have happened if he would have followed the rules. Again I'm not a Barcia fan at all!
Anyone that would like to see the footage of Barcia roosting Dr. Bodner and Vincent its on Fuel T.V. The Action sports plus show. They replay the show all the time.
I think the funniest part of the whole story is he went over to the Geico pits to see what Barcia was going to do with "His MOmmy and Daddy", how freaking lame is that??
barcia jumped the same line every single rider that night jumped i was sitting right there and have rewatched it sevral times , vincent said he was gonna go left and go to the outside which nobody was doing it was a pointless (and slow) move for that triple, no reason for it what so ever, but if you watch it in slow mo you can see that the problem occurred as vincent left the face of the jump his foot came off the pegs he was already squirlly and would have likely wrecked by himself had he not landed on barcias rear wheel
p.s for any who think barcia took vincent out go rewatch when alessi crossed over on windahm thats what happens when the rider in front does the "taking out" they ride of clean
bd200...........he didn't say mommy and daddy. Twist the story to suit you?
TWK1,
I didn't say Barcia was rolling jumps, you misread my post. My point I was making about that was that a lot of times the leader with a big gap will slow down on the last lap, to be, safe, relax in the moment, whatever. When they do that they do have to be careful when they decide to put it on cruise becasue you can't blitzt by a few guys racing for their own position, and then stop and cruise in front of them and expect them to just follow. They are also racing for points, purse money, etc. And a lot of these guys getting lapped are privateers counting on every position they get, and every penny they make for every position. Simple fact that this was an unfortunate racing incident that had a few different variables. I just rewatched this again from a few different angles. Everyone is going to have their own opinion of what happened. My opinion of what I saw is that Vincent let Barcia by in the corner before, and since he was racing for position in with a group of riders he got on the gas after Barcia went by. If you really think Barcia was riding full race pace by then go back and look at his body position, etc. This kid scrubs more, moves around on the bike than almost any other rider. He rode his line and jumped to the inside but he was definately not racing the track like he was before. Vincent misgudged Barcia's speed and looks like he tried to check up and change lines to the outside and clipped Barcia's wheel. I'd be pissed to if I was Barcia. Sh*t happens pretty quickly on the track sometimes. But again my comment I still believe that he was in the middle of a few riders racing each other (not Barcia) and barcia relaxed his pace. Im not blaming Barcia, its just one of the variables that were involved. As for whoever was saying Vincent was going to crash anyways, not sure how you can predict that future. By moving his leg? Might need you to give me some winning lottery tickets for next week.
Its the 10 year olds on here with the name calling and the 10th place guys sucks comments coming from guys who probably run mid-pack in the beginner class that makes this board like a 1st grade classroom.
Never in the history mustached men has one ever cried on public television. This is pathetic. Shave your mustache and grow a beard of shame. Mustaches are for men and Barcia is clearly not ready for one. Stop crying in public "not worthy of the mustache" boy! Magnum PI was a wimp, you make him look like a hero.
Motohead279 I watched the video very closely and I agree with you that Vincent was trying to check up and change lanes to get behind Barcia and he needed another 12" and everything would have worked out. It looked to me like Vincent knew while he was in the air off the triple that he had to get to the outside or he was going to T-bone Barcia in the corner. At that point I think Vincent was trying to avoid hitting Barcia, It was the way Vincent raced him for a lap and a half that was the problem. I don't think Barcia has a lot of friends out there. If any! If your going to race dirty and push people around all the time theyare not going to do you any favors when you are lapping them. When Barcia moves up to the 450s he is going to pay for his attitude problem. At Bercy Barcia started beef and ran and hib behind his team like a girl, Vincent had his mom and dad with him to confront Barcia. That had to be funny, sounds like they were almost ready to pull each others hair. Anyway I thought that you might not had watched the race yet when I read your post, my fault, PEACE
Hey man, when ya got the win in the preverbial bag, dont risk it, you're in charge, you proved your point,....stay the hell outta trouble, in front, or behind,...Ya know lappers could do anything, (thats why they a lap down). Now if Justin rides all wild on another last lap w/ victory in the bag scenerio, I'd be tempted to call him a idiot. This is a time to be cool, maybe point at your mustache off a triple err something,? Dont blast lappers off the track, you hurt their feelers enough allready....just enjoy it.
If a lapper get's in your way when you have a 10 second lead you should ?
a. Cross over in front of him and get landed on and lose the race.
b. Stay away from them and take it easy and get ready to count your $.
c. Roost them and hide behind your Mechanic.
c. Invite them to your house and bite their ear off.
If you get taken out by the leader in a race you should.
a. Wait for him to come around and take him out.
b. Chalenge him to a fight.
c. Run away when the guy wants to kick your ass.
Jason Barcia???
Justin Lawrence???
I'm no pro but i think it's a b.s.. rule for lapppers! No matter what i think all racers should race their little heart out till the very end!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!! A racer should never ever pull over or slow down, ever, EVER, EVER!!!!!! IT looks stupid watching a racer slow down so the premadona can get by easier! In my opinion it hurts the growth of supercross!!!
Just a reminder that the fans pay for racing to happen and it's really F_ing stupid looking when a rider has to slow down and compromise his position so someone can pass...AMA change that b,s. rule so it looks like a race is going on for everyone!!!!! Watch all the b*tch*s freak out with this post!!! lol