Barcia Fined $5000 in Houston
Sunday, April 1, 2012 | 3:20 PM
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PrintRacer X has learned that GEICO Honda's Justin Barcia has been fined $5000 for his conduct after the conclusion of last night's Houston, Texas round of Monster Energy Supercross. Barcia led the majority of the race before tangling with lapped rider Lance Vincent with just three turns to go, putting them both on the ground and costing Barcia the race win.
Barcia got back up and finished second, and then went into a public meltdown, roosting race winner Ken Roczen (who had no part in the Vincent incident) and then circling back around to Vincent, who was still laying on the track being attended to by Asterisk Personel, specifically Dr. John Bodnar. Barcia roosted Vincent but got Bodnar as well. Later, Barcia went to tears on the podium.
The genesis of the fine came from the roosting Asterisk personel, but the fine was levied not just for that specific moment, but for Barcia's actions as a whole after the race.
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He deserves every penny. But LB should get some sort of a fine as well for not getting out of the way.
Really I didnt see that i saw him turn his bike around but not purposely roost anyone thats how you spin a bike around and he wasn't thinking clear. The med crew should never be roosted but I dont think he was. Roosting on purpose is holding your front brake in and pinning it. Vincent should have gotten the fine for jumping that jump and not letting the leader through he couldn't pull over but it looked like Vincent gased it because he wanted to stay with him instead of rolling the jump and slowing down. Weimer complained and a lot of people gave him crap but he is right if your a lap down and in the way get off the track . Last night was embarrassing night for SX and the AMA. It is a new day and they need to update that rule book of theirs because the speed the top guys are going could be deadly if they take people out or hit a lapper. I fault the AMA here and with everything else that happened last night. I will let them know it. After being a member for 25 years I think I deserve to be heard.
Hahaha. April fools
If all this is true then wow haha. This Could very well be an april fools joke, although this is actually pretty serious.
Fined? Suspend that little loser and actually teach him a bit of a lesson about respecting fellow riders and especially the medical personnel out there making sure injuries are minimized for all these guys when the unthinkable happens. He's proven over and over again that he's just a stupid little kid, and he's really gonna end up hurting somebody if it's allowed to continue. Anyone who thinks this was in the least bit Vincent's fault is fooling themselves. He was jumping towards the inside, and Barcia came all the way across and ruined his night, I'd be pissed if I was Vincent. Had this happened earlier in the race, we may have had another Bercy, How would the AMA handle that? Barcia's disrespect for his competitors, the fans, and the sport in general, is just plain disgusting.
I hope this is a lame attempt at a April Fools joke. $5000? Seriously AMA get your head out of your.....
I sure hope this is a April fools joke because I will lose all respect for him not only as a rider, but as a human being as well.
This isn't a april fools jokes. Barcia roosted Roczen intentionally after the race for no reason then went out of his way to where Vincent was laying and yelled at him and roosted him and the medical personal. It was no way Vincents fault. Barcia jumped across sOmeones line right in front of Vincent like he's done I other people many times before. Barcia deserves the fine for being such a poor sport and loser.
Did you guys not watch the race today? He rode over to a downed, helmetless rider who was being attended to by the medic and got in his face screaming. Doc was yelling at him to get lost...then they stopped the footage but I don't doubt he roosted them as he sped off in a tantrum! And to roost Roczen like he somehow had something to do with it?? Loser!
Prob what Bagget and Roczen were pointing and laughing at on camera after the race.....don't think Wam Bam has many friends out there!
Crybavies calling for Barcia to be suspended, how ignorant. Yopu have a guy who is easily the best there, and he gets dropped because of a dumb move by a lapper, he gets pissed because the idiot couild have ended his season, or career. And some fool wants Barcia to be suspended?? Really?? What a clown. Give the fine to both, and move on dont make the issue any bigger than it is..
I did not see Barcia roost Roczen either. Dont think that happened.. Barcia DIDNOT jump in Vincents line, watch the race again, Vincent moves slightly to his left, after he didnt let the leader through in the first place..
Lol there is no way this is Vincent's fault. Barcia had all the time in the world e could've stayed on the outside and cruised around for a win. And he did roost Roczen after the race watch the footage again. And theirs no way that would be a career ending crash haha
Barcia is SUCH a cry baby! The test of a mans character isn't how he wins, it's how he loses. He should be ashamed....and to roost Baggett and Roczen?....what did they do? NOT COOL
That is so funny for Barcia to do that considering he is a notorious dirty rider. Loves to give it but cant take it! As much as I want to see him in the 450's he is in for big trouble if he carries on this way with the big boys. Time to eat some humble pie.
therealmofo: You're the ignorant one, this is racing..and stuff happens with lappers, but to roost the medical staff and possibly injure one of them in the process!!?? Perhaps that is ignorant to ones safety? What if a small rock hit someone in the eye or what if Vincent was laying there with a compound fracture and dirt got in the wound? Barcia can be charged by police nevermind fined by the AMA. How you defend this infantile behavior is beyond me. Barcia is nothing but a spoiled brat. Eff him.
And to Roost Roczen!?? what a pecker....crybaby Barcia, I'm ashamed he is from district 34 now.
I wish there was a ' Like ' button on this forum! Cause localexpert....I 'Like' your comment!
Hah poor Doc bodnar he's a really nice guy, i had to go to the emergency room a few months ago in coronado san diego and he just so happened to be my doctor it was very cool, we hung out all night talking moto while i was on morphine and was on an IV. This really bums me out, I'm from NY and liked Barcia a lot but after him crying and throwing a tantrum I'm almost embarrassed. Oh well, I'll go back to racing the novice class now.
Thanks Ripdown. Sometimes you have to make common sense out of a bad situation. Things in life never go our way...doesn't matter if its racing or going to work, life is not perfect. If everytime I had a bad situation at work where my ego was hurt due to someone elses bad judgement or mine...that doesn't warrant me to stomp my feet on the ground or get in someones face about it. In this case this was a day of work for Barcia because he is a paid professional...does he act like one? you decide.
up to Barcia to pick a line and stop crossing over into everyone, that little pr!ck! nothing but his own doing. Fades left and right into everyone all year and reaps the rewards now it bites him in the a$$ and he literally cries?
BINGO! ^^^ Barcia is lucky that Wharton checked up in the rhythm section a week or two ago- that could have been bad. Barcia is fast, but he acts like a spoiled little b!tch.
Justa Douchbag Barcia!
Justa wha wha Barcia!
Bacia cut over on Roczen on the 2-3 lap on that little double before the second set of whoops. He can almost end someones night but when it happens to him he is a 14 yr old. I really hope someone smashes him over a berm. Disrespectful little punk.
He is a fast mofo but he needs to see a shrink!
100% April Fools
WOW, some real dumba$$es on here today!
This might cost Barcia a spot on the Motocross of Nations team. Would you want him representing the US?
What is with these 250 class cry babys? Bogle last week, and now Barcia. That incident was nobody's fault but Barcia's. He cut from the outside to the inside..
@therealmofo,, dude, you are absolutely clueless !!!! Anytime you comment from now on, your just wasting your time. With comments like that, just proves how ignorant you are, and everyone knows it..
Lol your the dumbass. Maybe the $5000 fine was a joke but all the other stuff that happened wasn't a joke maybe if you watched the race today you'd know that.
Mr-Motorcross,
Thought it was motocross but whatever. I know rubbing is racing but blatantly crossing into someones line is just plain dangerous. Barcia has been doing it all year and it caught up to him. If you havent seen that well good for you. You have the ability to see only what you want to and not what actually is happening.
I know the crying part is not April fools I watched his interview with Jim Holley on youtube hes basically crying his eyes out lol. Im sure he did roost Roczen and Vincent while hes on the ground since he would be the type that would do that after a race hes a little baby
Most of the Lites class could use lessons in professionalism. Bagget, Wilson, Bogle, Stewart and now Barcia have done things over the past year that are just unacceptable. You can say that they're just kids or that they were just reacting to another person's mistake but the fact of the matter is that, no matter who's to blame for the situation, how you conduct yourself is the real mark of a professional especially in front of a national audience. These guys are fast but they're far from pros.
what did wilson do?
Anyone defending the idiotic roosting of Vincent (and subsequently the Aterisk guys) and Roczen need to evaluate their standing as a human being. Roczen?! What the hell did Roczen have to do with it? Maybe in Barcia's pea-brain he thought it was a KTM thing? Did he roost DeCoster as well? Whatever the case, no one should be defending that. Especially when innocent medics attending to a downed rider are hit. Barcia certainly has a long road to travel to win me over. I doubt his mentality has the capacity to do so.
Was last nIght JBs fIrst race wIth lappers? VIncent has just as much rIght to be out there as the drama queen wIth the bIg #1 on hIs bIke. Oh, waIt, let's just have factory supercross. BarcIa just needs to put hIs bIg gIrl pantIes on and deal wIth It. RoostIng the medIcal staff should be a suspensIon. You really thInk the 5k fIne got hIs attentIon? Aaaaa.....I'm thInkIng NO!
It really looked to me like Barcia just went into cruise mode after passing the "mere lapper" Vincent and was going too slow when Vincent was only guilty of actually racing till the end. They came together and BAM! I really think that If Barcia would have been charging to the finish, he would never have collided. I don't think anybodys line choice was to blame as much as Barcia just thinking that he was done with Vincent after just passing him in the turn before. If it would have been Roczen or Baggett behind him challenging for the lead, we would have never seen a collision there.
Anyone else see it that way?
I will admit that I thought a few of Barcias passes this year were just a bit over the line from 'aggressive block pass" to "cheap and dirty"
@braaap114 Talked crap about his teammate (Bagget) on the podium at Pala '11 (Bagget did the same).
...In Barcias eyes, Vincent came out of NOWHERE and took HIM out. He never seen it coming. Kinda reminds me of a lot of the Stewart wrecks involving non podium riders.The subsequent meltdown was totally not cool though.
Barcia and James Stewart have something in common, they both ride with no respect for any riders safety. Barcia jumped across the front of Rozcen but when he did the same to Vincent it cought up with him. $5000.00 for his actions is not enough! Should be $25,000.00 that would get his attention.
DeeJay, MXoN chance for Barcia? Is that a joke? Care to take a guess without looking as to how many overall wins Barcia has to his name outdoors? In three full years of racing no less. All these guys who think he's so great should go check out this little stat, you may surprise yourselves. Tomac, and PC Kawi, and Wharton, and Bogle, are all gonna eat him alive all summer. He's only good indoors against half the talent, and will never win a National MX or SX title.
Little cry baby Barcia deserves 50k for that b.s. That was some of the most unprofessional behavior I have ever seen, worse than alessi's.
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First it was he was an ass in paris, now this crap. I know he's been abrasive other times to acting like a pecker. The other one, interesting enough is Bogle slapping people in the helmet. Geico Honda, you think Larocco would have those two morons in line and showing a little respect.
Looks like Barcia lost a bunch of fans, I used to be one as he grew up racing in district 34. What transpired last night was utterly disgusting. When Jim Holley interviewed him, he was complaining about the lappers....well Justin, would you like everyone to pull off the track and let you race by yourself? How about this, get your own association and start racing by yourself....I can't imagine what he was like for his parents growing up. Team WAH!!!
Thats what you get for acting like a b!tch and crying on t-v..good for ya barcia,maybe that will make you grow up!
localexpert - This won't cost him a single fan. He's been a tool as long as I've seen him ride and if folks liked him before, this isn't likely to change their opinion.
Barcia needs to grow up. He does that shit in the 450's next year. Reed,RV,Dungey and Windham will put that little punk in a tuff block were he belongs.
Where do we get to see the meltdown? I saw him yelling at 55- then apologizing for it up on the podium. He looked distraught and emo talking to Jim Holley immediately afterwards. Lets see some youtubes of those roostings. Vincent should have got out of the way- he was right on barcias a$$ down that straightaway- when he should have backed it off. When Villopoto is cruising around on his last lap waving to the crowd- does somebody try to race him and clean him out heading into a turn? Vincent should have got a fine also for his part.
Totally legit fine for his after race actions.......his emotions absolutely got the best of him and showed the World that he is an immature kid...... BUT.... during the race Vincent was shown the blue flag the entire straight away before the straight where he did not get out of the racing line and did indeed cause the wreck! He was being LAPPED with two turns to go until the finish and ruined a nice paycheck for Barcia, for Barcia's sponsors, etc.. Vincent was a LAPPER and needs to understand that he needs to let the leaders pass!
I was there in person with practically a front row seat to what Barcia did to Vincent and the medical crew. The tv broadcast did not quite do it justice; there was no question whatsoever that Barcia roosted those guys intentionally. Very poor conduct, and I think the fine was appropriate.
But I will say that in the TV interview he acknowledged his unsportsmanlike conduct, so at this point I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and I bet we will continue to see focused racing from the guy. Everybody makes mistakes, and anyone who has twisted the throttle in a race knows how the competitve juices flow and can cause you to make poor decisions. Keep it up Bam Bam, but keep it clean.
Corndog- He lost me and a bunch on this page, his tantrum was never like this, in France we didn't get to really see it like we see this one in the states. He is just mad because he lost the race due to his bad line choice, he could have backed it off and cruised. We all know that lappers can play havoc in a race...so if we all know this then why not make a safer pass? its not like anyone was breathing down his neck.
The crash was a bonehead move for both of them, but I lost any respect I had for Barcia after the race. I realize he's pretty much a kid, but that was classless. He needs to grow up bigtime.
Barcia is the man and a stupid lapper cost him the race. Lane vincent deserved that dirt roost haha that was good tv tho. Everyones a hater cause barcias just to good
im surprised mike larocco puts up with this kinda crap from barcia. if anything tho the ama should use this as a learning experience. they need to be more strict with lappers. vincent was in barcias way for over a lap and he ran into the back of barcia... if lappers get in the way or are rolling around the track on the 4th lap of the main they should be black flagged. the could call it the jeff alessi rule....
barcia is a little cry baby, beeeoch!....thats the same kind shit he pulled in france...just a spoiled little brat!!.....he is fast but because he is such a douch I cant get on board with him....grow up dude
It could have been Barcia laying on the ground and getting the help from Doc Bodnar-
He's the points leader- He has every right to be pist.
I thought Vincent lost his line a bit landing from the previous jump and moved left as Barcia was moving right. I watched it slow-mo a few times and I could see Vincent twist a bit left as he landed from the previous jump.
As for the actions of Barcia, I really hoped to see some of his alleged maturity rise to the occasion and that he would just shake it off as a racing incident. From my poor lip-reading skills it looked as though Vincent replied by telling him to "f*** off". Good on him.
WFO_UFO
The difference between RV and Wam Bam is RV hasn't made an enemy of everyone on the track therefore he can safely cruise his last laps whereas the class bully can't pass anyone without ramming them! If he's that fast he should pass them clean and move on .. ala RV
Barcia has acted again like a "bip" last night, he is a very fast "biiiiip" !
For the crash, Lance jump to the left and Barcia to the right to cut his line...shit happens sometimes but if he jumps straight like he is suppose to he would have been fine. Roosted Roczen for what ??? For the medic and a pilot on the ground the suspension is the minimum ! Punch the medic on a football field and you will see if you not gonna be suspended !
Ripdown- Barcia had already cleanly passed him a ways back. I don't underfstand your logic. As for Villopoto- nice guys really don't finish last!
Barcia, should have been disqualified !
Courageous????? The only april fool here is Barcia! This guy gives Americans a bad name! Send Tomac to the MXON. How many times can Barcia discrace himself, his team and his country????? Time to grow up before you get yourself hurt.
Courage to roost a downed man and his medic?? Gee, what is your scale??
WFO_UFO
"It could have been Barcia laying on the ground and getting the help from Doc Bodnar-
He's the points leader- He has every right to be pist."
WFO_UFO, I don't understand your logic...he's the point leader and its okay for him to do what he did? Everyone has a right to be pissed....but that doesn't warrant dangerous actions, last I knew we live in a civil society. Its this kind of elitist status that we give athletes and politicians a pass because of who they are. Enough already, Justin acted like a fool and now its viral.
It's not viral cuz I haven't seen it yet- have you? Why didn't they even show it on tv if it was a big deal? After all they showed 10 replays of Bogle's bitxxch slap to Malcolm. From what I saw on tv and the available you tubes- he was in the right. Let's see him spraying rocks at two guys without helmets and I will readjust my tune. For now I'm on Barcia's side. Trayvon and Zimmerman- I'm not so sure yet.
These lites riders are just kids and the pressure to win is tremendous. The meltdowns come from that pressure. Wins earn them a lot of money and it's not from the promoters. Barcia will learn from his mistakes...in time. If I remember correctly, RC was a little out of control his rookie year in the lites class and took himself out along with others during that year many times.
I think its funny reading all the negativity towards Barcia, things happen in the heat of the moment. Do all of you forget a couple weeks ago when Roczen acted like a baby and roosted Durham? Probably not, you all throw stones when not a one of you can do what these goes do on a daily basis. Fact of the matter Barcia's a beast, Vincent was a lapper that held up the race line which is nothing new for lappers. Get over it!
If you remember, Barcia tried the BamBam crap with Pourcel a couple times. Second time Pourcel chased him down (easily faster when he wanted to be) and "Bammed" him into next week. Barcia avoided Pourcel after that. The classic called-bluff bully fold-up deal.
He will try it once with Roczen. I don't think the kid is going to feel like a guest outdoors like he does now indoors. He will be on familiar ground, arm healed, and my guess is if Roczen is smart (and they say he is...) then Barcia gets one shot and then Roczen puts His Highness over the fence. If someone else doesn't beat him to it.
BTW, Vincent should have pulled over and steered clear, but JB does cut over all the time. Karma.
WOW hes a human He lost his temper ,he made a mistake after the race ,he apologized and was fined.....you can quit crying now. Anyone that thinks he caused the crash is a moron or did'nt watch the race. It was basically a racing incident and he should have left it go (even though the lapper #55 who was being blue flagged and should have given him clear track and thats where the PROBLEM actually started.
I really don't care how good the kid is, he is proving himself to be quite a c o c k y little idiot......yeah yeah, i know it's SX and "it's racing" and all that macho c r a p , but what he pulled last night is bull s h i t!! Take his points away from last night is what they should do...monetary fines mean NOTHING!! Kid's a punk!!
This kid has displayed many times how immature he really is. The incident at Bercy, Going "oh I guess he thought he was a big shot" when wharton bumped him a little when thats how he rides every corner and now this. Yes I know the lappers are supposed to let them by but Vincent had is line and he stuck with it. This kid is ridiculous, yelling him and roosting hom when hes down? Roosting Roczen. What a baby! Screw monetary fines hes swimming in cash. He needs points taken away! What he really needs is to have a little fit and mouth off to the wrong rider and get himself a attitude adjustment.
For all those defending Barcia because he is "young" get over it, he has been racing motocross for 15 years!!!! If he hasn't learned sportsmanship yet he never will
Trying to compare Barcia with his 3rd year in the pros to RCs rookie year is ludicrous 3rd year isn't a rookie anymore.
We have all seen Barcia wreck other riders for the last 3 years, and he hasn't learned that what goes around comes around until last night
Barcia couldnt beat Roczen at Houston in his dreams
Look people....people get hot headed because they r focused... EVERYONE ..I MEAN EVERYONE has lost their temper at some point so hell FINE both of them and call it even...what about Chad & James. they crashed James used Chads body to get up. but look at them now. Racing is Racing... HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES... LET IT GO...I am glad lappers ok but AMA does need to revise rules for things like this. Barcia was mad ..YOUR TELLING ME each of u reading this WOULDNT BE UPSET AND MAD? sure he shouldnt have but its done Say Sorry get a fine MOVE ON....REALLY...WE still think Barcia is great..just calm the hot head a bit...
Barcia fan. Go get em bam bam.
Whether or not it was Vincent or Barcia's fault isn't really my problem. My problem is the fact that Bam Bam roosted a downed rider and a medical personal, who on a couple occasions has helped Barcia when he was down. I personally think that's why the AMA gave him this fine. I am a fan of Barcia but I don't think a $5000 fine will teach him a lesson, because lets be honest, do you think he's gonna pay it? Unless Larocco makes him, that $5000 is coming from GEICO. Barcia is an extremely talented rider, but if he thinks he's going to move into the big boy class with that attitude, then he has another thing coming, the first time he Bam Bams RV, RV will be more than happy to repay the favor.
should be 5k plus a one race suspension. To actually turn back and go roost a guy? and to get the Astrisk crew? Mandatory suspension.
Plus it was barcia's fault in the first place. He continually crosses lines on jumps when he thinks he has the wheel. It cost him and Vncent this time. Hold your f'ng line you ding dong.
Barcia no doubt deserved the fine for roosting the medical crew. But the Roczen fans seem to forget when he threw a fit and roosted Durham for doing a nac nac in front of him. Barcia is young and made a immature mistake like Roczen.
@Open_Class - Have you ever raced? Vincent was a lapper and jumped to the outside into Barcia's line. Vincent wasn't in the race, he is supposed to check up and give Barcia the right away.
been racing for many many years. Watch again. Barcia was jumping left to right to get the inside and never should have. He should have assumed that there may be someone there and stayed outside.
incent did NOT jump right to left as there would have been no reason to go from inside to out.
Again, JB owns this one.
I wish CBS had the complete footage. Either way it was uncalled for. I wouldn't want to piss off the people that help you when you're down.
notice how happy Baggett was? He couldn't stop laughing during his interview. I think he thought the whole Barcia thing was very funny. Watch how he greeted Roczen after the race and they had some srt of interaction with Barcia after they held up their trophies (except Barcia). My guess is the Chupacabra and Bam Bam aren't going to dinner together any time soon.
If barcia tries that nonsense in the 450s he is going to earn an honorary geology degree with all the dirt samples he's going to get. Look at last year, even Dungey got on his case. Can you image what JS, CR or RV would do to him?
Poor guy lost his cool....I bet he's regreting it all, starting from crossing in front of of vincent to going loco in front of everyone...life lesson for him for sure.
as the saying goes,when your winning your enemies cant hurt you,and when your losing your friends cant help you! for now justin tell every one to kiss off! its fu#$ing MENS proffessional racing. the stakes and emotions are high!
Couple of significant differences between Barcia's roosting and Roczen's on Durham.
Durham was upright on his bike with all his protective equipment on. Vincent was on his ass in obvious discomfort without a helmet or goggles.....do I even need to explain how offside it is to roost a medic as well? Perhaps next time Barcia takes a dirt nap the medics should pepper him with stones first before attending him?
Not everyone is Hansen or Stewart who quit just because they aren't going to win,
Vincent was going to ride as hard as he can until the checkers. For all those complaining about lappers, they have every right to the track as the leaders, yeah if safe they are suppose to give room, but obviously Barcia decided he didn't want to continue riding hard and once again crossed jumped. If Barcia rode hard for 20 laps then this wouldn't have been a problem.
Fine is nothing to these guys, the only thing that is gonna matter is if they took away points.
Roosting downed riders and medics intentionally is pathetic, apologizing doesn't mean jack. Doing the right thing in the first place is what men do.
As far as trying to compare Roxzen roosting of Durham isn't justified, Durham through a Nacnac right in front of Roxzen and and then stopped on the track instead of riding straight to the podium and all that was a heat race!!
Wonder what Stanton is going to tell his little protegy...
Open class........ Barcia WAS riding his line... if you watch the entire race, you would see the fast line was to start from left and go right to set up for the right hand turn/jump.....
Vincent was a LAPPED rider and had no right to the track as he was passed by the leader and ran into the back of him. Plus, he was given the blue flag several times prior to the incident... I ask you, what does the blue flag mean? It means get out of the racing line and allow the leaders to pass. Vncent had no one around him, and two turns to go to the finish. It was BS on his part. With that being said, no of this condones Barcia's rediculous actions after the race.
"But I will say that in the TV interview he acknowledged his unsportsmanlike conduct, so at this point I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and I bet we will continue to see focused racing from the guy."
Only because the team manager handed him his ass.
how awesome would it be if barcia went down and the medics started throwing rocks at him (as suggested above)? I can hear Ralph "BARCIA GOES DOWN!!! Here come the Asterisk medi...wait THEY"RE THROWING ROCKS AT BARCIA. Oh the humanity!!!"
Ama promoters are loving this stuff! Look how much discussion its created here. Barcia has shown he's the alpha male pn the track.
This is a male dominated sport and we all love it. Its nice to see good sportsmanship. But its even better for ratings when you get controversy.
Bring back Jason Lawerence!!! and throw some cage fighters in the mix!!
thatl make MX no 1 sport in the world!!
@open-class get some specs ..... Barcia was IN FRONT of #55 who was a LAPPER and suppose to give room to the leader.....i'd bet money that all the folks that can't mysteriously see this were down on Barcia before this happened. Hes a kid and an idiot for doing it but he apologized ,lost the race ,was fined and looked like a fool.....only haters need more than that and hes a long way from being Jason Lawrence....move on to whining about something else.
None of you haters have ever thrown a leg over a bike and lined up on a starting line. I, in no way, agree with what Barcia did, however, motocross is a VERY emotional event, he is 18, and got taken out by a lapped rider while KILLING the competition. Vincent was the idiot here, you have to give the leader who is LAPPING you space. that was the same line he ran the whole race. Fined for letting his emotion un ove, ok. Vincent should count hislucky stars that Doc Bod was there, otherwise Barcia may have beat the shite out of him, and I, as a racer, would understand. Vincent needs his ass beat after that bone head move.
Actually Barcia is 20, and has been pro for 3 years, there is no excuse for his behavior,
To not have the situational awareness and roost the medics is just asinine.
Many guys on here have raced anything that has wheels on it, including motorcycles, to think we don't know, how adrenaline and emotion play into things is ridiculous,
Medics, referees and fans are off limits simple as thar
@Areal reader
I'm pretty sure if Vincent was to get up, barcia would have turned tail and run......we've seen it before
@Areal reader
I'm pretty sure if Vincent was to get up, barcia would have turned tail and run......we've seen it before
From an emotional stand point i can understand that the boys are ticking out. the pressure is immense.
I rode myself and my boy is riding nationals here in germany and is riding hard and tough like mx is to be done.
But no way do you do anything to a downed or even insured rider or the medicals helping the rider.
If you do that here you will at least temporarily suspended for 1-2 races and rightly so - AMA could do that but #1 or red plate always get's special treatment in every race series one way or another -> see the "Senna" documentation how it was done by FIA in formula 1.
The other roostings between riders are just alpha leader behaviour that all the guys must have that attitude and self confidence to be in it!
I don't blame JB for being pissed...I was cringing the whole time Vincent was "racing" him even though he was getting lapped. I even expected him to go over and chew him out.
HOWEVER...if he in fact roosted Vincent and Doc Bodner then the fine is completely justified. He's lucky neither of them got a big rock to the head or he would be in real trouble. He did roost Roczen, but I saw it as being pissed and roosting the backside of each jump, not intentionally roosting KRoc.
And props to Roczen for telling it like it is on the podium, hopefully he'll be back to 100% in 2 weeks and can challenge for the win!
Barcia had every right to be pist off here, Vincent was in the way for far too long and then ran into the back of him??? That's BS
He is pointing out this year and to have a "DESERVED" Win taken away like that is FKT!!
I can't imagine his actions after towards Rozken will help with getting on the MXdN team... Roosting the team mgrs rider?? Not very smart...
And roosting the doctor was out of line, yeah I would have told Vincent off but that's enough.
Do these riders do any PR training? If not they need to.. Pretty easy stuff. For example-
If you get taken out by a lapped on the last lap of the series by a lapper and lose the championship your actions need to be-
Bite your tongue
Ride back to trailer.
(do not have a meltdown on TV aka pulling a barcia :). )
Good entertainment though I'm sure all agree
Barcia had every right to be pist off here, Vincent was in the way for far too long and then ran into the back of him??? That's BS
He is pointing out this year and to have a "DESERVED" Win taken away like that is FKT!!
I can't imagine his actions after towards Rozken will help with getting on the MXdN team... Roosting the team mgrs rider?? Not very smart...
And roosting the doctor was out of line, yeah I would have told Vincent off but that's enough.
Do these riders do any PR training? If not they need to.. Pretty easy stuff. For example-
If you get taken out by a lapped on the last lap of the series by a lapper and lose the championship your actions need to be-
Bite your tongue
Ride back to trailer.
(do not have a meltdown on TV aka pulling a barcia :). )
Good entertainment though I'm sure all agree
And to think when I called him a "punk" a few weeks ago I got slamed for it.. Hmmmm
What they need to start doing is making fines in points, not money. There is no meat in a $500 or even a $5,000 fine, especially for a Barcia. The real punishment of this is pointing out what happened that not many fans knew had happened. It doesn't matter how mad you get and how justified you are for being mad, there are certain things you just can't do.
Only certain fans will disagree with you BillC, as some of us have thought the same thing for some time. Hope he puts his big boy pants on come the Nationals because there is a lot of competition out there......WIlson, Baggett, Tomac, Roczen, Musquin.......will be interesting to see if he can refrain from punting those he can't pass.
Being mad about what happened is very justified. What he did isn't. I've seen 10-year-olds handle the situation with more maturity. Larroco must have wanted to deck him when he got back to the truck, but being a professional, he did not (that I know of).
I will never be a fan of Barcia and i dont see how anyone can. how can u like someone that roost the winner when he had nothing to do with the incident, and acts like his shit dont stink on the racetrack. Barcia the Bully. Thats my new name for him.
I love how fast Barcia is and I dont even think he's shown his best stuff yet, but he rides with a rear view on and defiantely makes sure he cuts over on people in the air ALL THE FREAKING time!
It absolutely looks like he's trying to put the fear in the guys minds about trying a repass, if not put them on the ground on purpose. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say thats not his intention. Either way, its totally unnecessary and I hope he realizes it and just puts the hammer down. It bit him in the azz saturday and cost him one spot. Funniest part was his exchange with Vincent...
Barcia, "Blah blah blah blah blah".
Vincent, "fck you".
Awesome.
First Bogle and now Barcia. Right wrong, whatever. I think Geico needs a little anger management control. I wouldn't want Mike Larocco ridein' my butt about off the bike behavior. He has autographed a few posters for me in the past (which I still have) and he's really a good guy, to me as a fan anyway, but if he was my boss, I think I would do whatever I could to stay on his good side!
@xxktm agreed. That was classic. And on TV. Clear as a bell. Good for Vincent.
Not hating on Barcia. Not a fan and tired of him having, HAVING, to hit people to pass. And his antics should cary a points fine as well or a race suspension. AMA needs to send a message and clean up some of this crap.
Now as for the incident. Sorry folks, no way this is going down as Vincents fault. JB made the pass and then uses the left to right line jumping into the corner.
I lost a North south championship race against SoCal in the 80's because they gated us with the intermediates, and I did not leave enough space in case of brain fart move.
It took a while before I was able to recognize it was my fault for not anticipating that could happen. Since then I ALWAYS assume that this can happen and make sure my passes stick and that the passed lapper or rider may blow the next corner and hit me.
JB should have stayed the wide line for that corner at least. He has a habit of just making the pass and moving over, and it has finally caught up to him. Hopefully he learns from it.
What was Barcia trying to do? Imagine Vincent would stand up and approach Barcia. I guess he would run away like he did in Bercy.
That guy is just a huge piece of sh*t.
Roosting an injured rider and the medics is way over the line.
I realize Barcia is still a mere child, but with the talent he's been blessed with, needs to be a realization of the spotlight he's in. He is a roll model whether he knows it or not. He MUST act more responsibly, (i blame his behavior on his parents, this isn't his first meltdown) Bottom line is that he is a classless clown! And I hope when when he makes it to vegas that Tomac does work on him!!!!
[begin rant] I just watched the race myself and I cannot condone Barcia roosting the Medical Crew or Vincent when he was down. But, I can say that most of you aren't racers, judging by your lack of putting yourself in Barcia's shoes.
Barcia was 3 turns away from a win, with a bonus of how much? Like, probably $5000 at least from contingency and more from his sponsors? A lot of money nonetheless. Would you be a bit pissed of something absolutely stupid took your $5,000 bonus away from winning a race? Yes, you sure as hell would be! Vincent should have rolled the double going into the turn, there was no one close to him. Instead, he jumped front the right to the left, and Barcia had been his line the entire race, as was most everyone else. It was the racing line. The rider's meeting next week should contain a going over of how Blue Flags work, and riders need to ADHERE to their rules.
And watch the footage again, Barcia was just spraying over each jump, not necessarily at Roczen, unless he did it again off-camera. I would be pissed if I was in Barcia's shoes but you can't yell at a guy on the ground, that's a bit too far. It was bad sportsmanship but you "bench-racers" here just fly off the handle and say what a "pussy" Barcia is, forgetting Roczen acted in a similar fashion a few weeks back. None of the Pros are pussies, end of story. Are you guys saying that if this happened to you, you wouldn't be outraged? I doubt it.
Last thing, about Bogle's headslap- That was deserved. Malcolm deliberately took him out and Bogle was reminding him how much of an idiot move that was. [end rant]
I believe riders should be suspended instead of being fined. The money these guys make now and giving them a $5000. fine means absolutely nothing to them.
I think by suspending them they may actually think before they do something--meaning if they are suspended it could actually cost them a championship if they had to sit out a race for doing something stupid.
Hhhhuuuummmm???? Are you listening AMA?
you can't compare what roczen did to what barcia, barcia, barcia (gratuitous Brady Bunch reference) did. barcia also roosted a medic. being a jackass to other riders doesn't bother me, the affected rider can fix that the next week on the track, but not to the medics or any officials.
make him sit out the next race!
Perfect, bring him back down to earth. His riding is awesome, but he might need to work on his temper tantrums, like most kids these days, they have no respect for anyone.
MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, PARENTS DON"T DO THIS ANYMORE.....
I hope he feels good watching himself having a melt down on National TV like a baby who just lost there pacifier....
He makes all of D34/Metro Sports and Walden Playboys proud. This kid was doin this shit back when he was on KTM's riding for Moroney's. He'd make his DIRTY PASS and ALWAYS turn around to see if he got the job done. (putt'n the rider on the ground). Rooted for him since he was a Hudson Valley NY boy. No more. I hope hope Nicoletti gets his chance for pay back from the good old days..
Barcia is a Pro Rider and has the greater talent of a lapped rider making be think it could have been avoided.
Jean-Helmut De La Rapapopoulos: who can be so retard to choose such a nickname?
I know I may be blasted for this but here goes anyway...
I am a fan of Barcias riding style. Not a fan of take out moves or dirty riding, but he rides with a wild abandon reminiscent of the late Danny "Magoo" Chandler. He even has the same messed up look in his eyes, just like Magoo did.
Having said that, if he did roost a downed rider, that is not cool in any capacity. Especially when he is receiving medical treatment. I know emotions run high in all levels of competition, but that sort of behavior is unacceptable. His sponsors need to come down on him as well as the team managers for that sort of behavior.
Now, not to excuse his behavior, but I thought he was also gunning for a perfect season too? I could be wrong. Just not sure if he had lost a round yet this year. If he was working on a perfect season, that was also thrown away and could cause his emotions to run hotter than they would normally. Not making excuses for the guy. Just saying it could be a factor. He does need to grow up in any event.
Anyone that has not seen Magoo ride needs to go search for Danny "Magoo" Chandler on you tube. Watch the Wild Magoo series. He looks like Barcia, sounds like Barcia, and rides like him.
Fined by who?
If we had any kind of real sanctioning body with real enforced rules this crap would taken care of and it would never happen again. $5000 is nothing. That's telling the riders they can get away with murder and get a slap on the wrist.
The AMA/Feld leadership is a joke. Ask any of the pros and they'll tell you straight up they are a joke.
@jonesymx29 your just as ignorant as those who you are talking about. I am a racer and i dont think any of Barcia's actions were acceptable. How can you even try to justify what he did. First of all he did roost Roczen for no reason, then he went to Vincent who was still on the ground from the crash and roosted him along with the medical crew. I personally feel like he should not only be fined but also be forced to miss some races for roosting a downed rider as well as medical staff. that was a huge boneheaded move and i dont care if he was three turns away from winning, its not like that crash resulted in him being off the podium. He had been riding smart and seeming more mature through the first races, but this incident just set him back a whole lot in my opinion.
@HandlebarDragger - Thanks for posting that. I had not heard that before. Impersonating an office is a serious crime. Up here in WA state there were 62 murders of women that were done by a man impersonating an officer.
I just went and watched the Magoo videos and the riding is EPIC!!!
Barcia is Magoo reincarnated! .....sort of....
I think it's interesting that so many people keep using this term, 'the race line' as if it's some golden highway that belongs to the race leader and all must bow to him and part like the Red Sea as he comes by. The WHOLE TRACK should be considered the race line, sissies! These guys are supposed to be the top riders in the world. They should be perfectly capable of 1) taking any reasonable line on a track, and 2) judging the consequences of that line choice and making corrections on the fly.
The crash was not Vincent's fault. I don't think it was some horrible sin by Barcia either, aside from a probable misjudgment. Barcia probably thought he has gotten a bit further ahead of Vincent when he took that line that angled across the track, and Lance Vincent was doing exactly what he should have been doing, which is riding as hard as he could. The blue flag doesn't mean 'Pull over, you suck at riding and should be on the edge of the track rolling everything.' It means to yield to the faster rider if it comes to that point. Since JB wasn't even really trying to pass him yet, Vincent had every right to be pushing as hard as he could, taking whatever lines he deemed were in his best interest. There were numerous line choices that Barcia could have taken through the rhythm section, or he could have simply waited it out another turn, and passed in a less risky section. He had the time to be patient, but he got hasty, they tangled, and he went nuts.
I know there was a lot on the line for Barcia, and yeah it must suck to lose a lot of cash from sponsors because of something like that, but he really needs to grow up. He's extremely talented, extremely arrogant, and feels entitled to the #1 position on the box, which he just didn't deserve this weekend. He was WAY out of line, and he got off too easily IMO. I would have suspended him at least a race for that display of immaturity, if not multiple.
I say we make him shave his upper lip.
Barcia was merely roosting dirt to mark out his territory like any junk yard dog would as a reminder to all of "WHO'S IN CHARGE" so don't look in to it too much squids.
It's freakin great to see those Monster Kawi Pro Circuit boys getting owned this year by the Honda Geico team.
Roost or be Roosted !
FIrst off...I like Barcia. The accident was his fault. He cleared Vincent and slowed up. The Blue flag is a "you're a lapper, get out of the way flag" and Vincent did give Barcia a clear line up the outside. Barcia did not hold the line and cut back in. That being said, the AMA says not to double any jumps after the finish line. Barcia didn't intentionally roost Roczen after the checkers, he rolled the double-single and pinned it down the backside of the jumps. What happened to Bodner and Vincent after the race should have been dealt with in a fine. Barcia lost his cool, but remember, he's a 19 year old kid. I dare any of you to say you would have taken it with class and not been upset enough to do something stupid. If you can, it just means you don't have the drive and want to win as bad as he does.
Some 20 years ago, another guy did this stuff too and people loved him...it was Damon Bradshaw. Everyone get off your high-horse. He shouldn't get suspended, he shouldn't get more fines. The kid apologized, move on.
"I dare any of you to say you would have taken it with class and not been upset enough to do something stupid"
I will dare say it. At his age (20) I was wrestling at a Div1 college. RULE ONE with the coaches was that any kind of display embarrassing the team or the sport would prove FATAL to your starting status (or loss of scholarship, if bad enough). I got effed over a few times and had to take it like a MAN. If I didn't understand that sufficiently, then the coach's stare was enough to make it stick.
But you don't need to play sports to know that throwing a tantrum ends after you quit diapers. Or so I thought....
you're all pissed because barcia whoops all of your favorites lites riders ass week in and week out. lance vincent clearly drove into barcia watch the race...
@kangaroo WELL said haha. and he never roosted roczen. get it straight.
Justin Bieberhole69... ahh, never mind.
On TV, you see Barcia roost KR enough that KR lowers his shoulder and turns his head to the right. You can see the crap bouncing off the helmet. But you watched and saw none of this. How does one accomplish this?
@ ElsinoreRacer, good basic point. How does someone like Barcia (even in the heat of the moment) not understand this basic concept of personal responsibility.
Roosting Roczen, not cool but borderline acceptable given the fact he is a fully protected rider in full gear. However, roosting a downed rider not wearing a helmet AND the medical personnel tending to him also without any protective gear? Barcia is entering J-Law territory. To me it is the downed rider without a helmet and the unprotected medical personnel that take this to a whole new level.
If the AMA is serious, they will invoke a suspension in addition to the fine. This is shameful behavior from a local amateur. From a professional, there is no excuse.
Handlebardragger made the most sense of it! Vincent had to jump that last double or face it and crash. That beiing said, Vincent was racing Barcia hard for the last 2 laps. ( back markers will do this because it is their only chance to ever be on T.V.) I was just starting to think Barcia was growing up or Stanton just won't put up with that crap. Barcia almost started a riot at Bercy 3months ago and ran like a little girl when confronted. He made U.S. motocrossers look like 5 year olds to the rest of the world. I think that pointless crash cost him at least 20 grand in bonuses so a clueless squid could get T.V. time. (Texas) I would be pissed too but what he did after the flag was the worst sportsmanship from anyone in a long long time. 5 grand means nothing to Barcia and the AMA should have taken his points so that he will think before he does it again. The whole thing sucked but, the AMAs small fine tells me we will see Barcia act like a a-hole again in another three months or so.The AMA needs to start enforcing the blue flag rule so back markers don't riun the outcome of the battles going on at the front of the pack.
they should dock him 100 pnts and suspend him 2 races, that would teach him and use that form of penalizing not cash, points and not racing would be better. Use this form of penalty to the other riders also, show some back bone AMA.
I don't care what the riders name is or standing. When you roost a downed rider being attended to by the Med crew should bring on a heavy fine and disqualification for the night. Nip it in the bud.
AMA is a spineless puppet with the factory teams pulling the strings. A $5000 fine is just for them to say they did something. $5000 means nothing for a rider like Barcia (who probably made 30K in bonuses for finishing second).
this is the best thing to ever happen to James Stewart.
To ANYONE who roots for or is just indifferent towards Barcia: He is a punk. He has benefited from a previous punk, jackass named Jason Lawrence screwing up so bad that he is out of racing basically so now his people hired a mentor to save him from ending up like Lawrence. But he still is an punk. Anything good you see out of him is fake and is done to help the bottom line by branding him. It's all about $$$$. He is a great rider and if you choose to pull for him, that's fine. Just don't try to defend him being an punk. I can't wait to see him try some of this stuff with CR, TC, RV and the others next year. I just wish he would've broken that Honda and not finished the race...cause he is a punk.
News flash!!
Barcia will no longer be referred to a Bam Bam Barcia. His name has been changed to:
WAH WAH Barcia
ok like it or not it happened the way it did but honesty barcia was out of line its just one race he had no right to act like a 2 year old and throw a fit because he cant have his bottle he got what he deserved
And make him shave that mustache. I'm afraid to take my children to the pits. He looks like a dadgum petifile!!!!
@tonewall???? How does this have anything to do with Stewart except for maybe taking the heat off of him for his 15th crash of the season?
Speaking of James....has there been an injury report from "Over The Bars Bubba" yet?
@redneck ...you figured it out all on your on......impressive. the more I read these comments the more I like Barcia. I for one have actually made a mistake unlike the above perfect beings. Once again , he made and idiotic mistake ,no one was injured , he apologized and was fined. Not one racer is still thinking about it ,...get over it bored comp jocks.
@tonewall.....I actually agree with you on this one.....actually, on your earlier post too...Scary that I agree with you twice on one thread!
LOL!
@redneck we don't always have to agree , thats what makes it intresting to me.Sometimes i agree AND disagree in the same comment...lol But what does have to do with Havoc is half the people so concerned with the injured lapper (who STARTED the whole fiasco) are the same people who had ZERO concern for Stewarts "fake" injury. This part of racing is serious and NO ONE should take injurys or medical staff for granted , bad stuff happens. No one was seriously hurt and a MAJOR lesson learned. I in NO WAY condone what JB did but I have been tired and hot and pis*ed after a moto and at stupid riders before....he did a stupid thing ,it doesn't make him evil or a punk anymore than most of the kids lining up or commenting on here.....unless you already have a problem with him beating up on the lites class,which I happen to enjoy.
You know what is really Crazy ..... I actually agree with @therealmofo, on this one ..now if i could just get him to back off of Js , then he will prove , he finally has seen the light ...LOL!
Barcia= dickhead move !! There is NO DOUBT Barcia is one of the fastest guys on the track !! But it seems like he thinks everybody should pull off the track and get out of his way. Carma will catch him soon !!! VERY STUPID !!!
Firstly, why are all of you illiterate? This is in no way meant to piss people off, It’s just concerning to me that none of you can form an articulate thought without sounding like a child. This may be a reason the general public views our sport in an inferior light than many other mainstream sports.
Getting back on topic, Barcia had every right to be upset. He almost instantly realized the error he had made and was clearly disappointed in himself and the way his evening turned out. Instead of being a brash couch critic, try to use your reason to form an opinion instead of your emotions. Many of you need fact checks and are too quick to take to the keyboard. Barcia could have been more mature in handling the situation, but his reaction was age appropriate to be honest. A $5,000 fine is fair for involving the medical crew and setting precedent for that kind of behavior. I support the AMA holding Barcia accountable, but do not view him differently from the incident.
100% April fools for sure lol.
The dude is dagerous on the track and has a bad attitude. That type of riding just shows he isn't capable of riding a clean race and winning. You don't see RV running into people!
Vincent was not at fault.
"The intent of a specific rule will override a competitor's interpretation of a rule. The intent of a rule will be determined by AMA Pro Racing."
"The overtaking of a slower rider by a faster rider where there is no position change is a situation that must be approached from a safety standpoint, and the intent of the rule regarding the use of the blue flag is to make a potentially dangerous situation less so. Section 7.14a.vii dictates the usage of and expected response to blue flags:
vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing.
The safety of riders is of paramount importance, and each part of the rule deals with a specific aspect of protecting both the slower and faster rider. By advising that riders keep their line, they are being asked to stay in a controlled trajectory and not make erratic changes in their course, allowing the faster rider to predict the course of travel and avoid contact with the rider being passed. The second part of the sentence says that they are to allow the faster rider to pass, intended to further diminish the threat of contact between riders."
As has been said many times before, Barcia likes to hit other riders, cut them off, and pretend he owns the track. He got caught with it in the MX last year crossing into Dungey's line over a jump...Ryan simply drove through him and Barcia tasted the dirt. He intentionally hit Roczen a race or two back to get the lead. I have no respect for his riding. RV gets respect from the guys he races against...did you hear Windham? He spoke highly of RV and said he heard Reed speak of him in similar terms. That's the difference between a true champion and Barcia.