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Single File Restart? What other crazy stuff would you like?

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 | 9:50 AM

Single File Restart? What other crazy stuff would you like?

Pit Stops 576 votes - 14.7%

Multi-Moto Format 1105 votes - 28.2%

Full course competition caution flags (pace bike!) 339 votes - 8.6%

Inverted starts (single file start with fastest qualifier in the back) 743 votes - 18.9%

Windmill Jump 1158 votes - 29.5%

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MotoMTBR33 wrote: 10:12am March 20, 2012

None of the above. Most of those suggestions would penalize the fast guys. If you can't keep up, get faster.

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2Loose4U wrote: 10:15am March 20, 2012

I don't like any of the options above, but I do like the single file restart. I've been complaining for a long time that red flags aren't fair to the guys who got a great start and are pulling ahead. They should do this for all restarts, no matter how many laps have been completed.

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np19 wrote: 10:17am March 20, 2012

Pace bike? You mean like "Safety Bike"?
and what's a Windmill jump?

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Ckeys69 wrote: 10:20am March 20, 2012

WTF is a windmill jump? Through a windmill?!?!?! They all suck...

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tompound wrote: 10:27am March 20, 2012

Jason, the restart was no joke. watch some dirt flat track they do it all the time. The riders really need to get that start down they should not sit there and wait for the rider in front of them to go, as soon as that flag drops, Race On!
not voting in your little sarcastic poll!
It is in the rule book.

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robs556 wrote: 10:27am March 20, 2012

none, leave it alone, just like corporate America, something is working & they want to change it, leave it alone, if you think that you have a better idea, go work for Ford

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nicgill4 wrote: 10:39am March 20, 2012

If you're talking about a windmill jump like at the put-put golf. That would be awesome!!!!

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Rich1 wrote: 10:45am March 20, 2012

None of the above, however, I did like the single file restart - seemed fair to me.

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BillC wrote: 10:47am March 20, 2012

NONE!!! ALL STUPID Ideas!!

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AMER1CAN wrote: 10:54am March 20, 2012

Inverted starts. That is truly the best idea. Pay out championship points in qualifiers so guys can't sandbag and hold back for a better gate pick. They will want to race for the win in the qualifier because it will pay championship points. Then for the main event invert the start order. Doing this allows more privateers to start up front and the faster guys will have to work through the pack a bit more. This will provide for better racing and a much better fan experience. It's really just that simple.

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Metta wrote: 10:56am March 20, 2012

Loved the single file start, it is very fair... really surprised the riders were so nonchalant about it. I would have been stoked to hear that if I was third I would still be third.

What the hell is a Windmill jump?

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BlueHog426 wrote: 10:56am March 20, 2012

How about a figure-8 style crossing somewhere on the track?? You know..who's gonna hold it on, and who's gonna chicken out and let off to let the other guy through...

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tommy1 wrote: 11:01am March 20, 2012

Yank lappers after 10 laps if their not top 5 in points and haven't been advancing track positions.

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mark_swart wrote: 11:04am March 20, 2012

None of the above. But I've always thought that heat wins or maybe fast qualifier should pay an extra point or two for the championship

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BobTheBuilder wrote: 11:04am March 20, 2012

The staggered start is a much better option than a complete restart and it worked.

Making light of it by suggesting pit stops and windmill jumps is STUPID STUPID STUPID Weigandt. Save the bad humor for your articles.

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two250 wrote: 11:09am March 20, 2012

As said before none, leave it alone!

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zghosty wrote: 11:09am March 20, 2012

bring back split starts!!

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mxmofo1 wrote: 11:29am March 20, 2012

How about 25 lap SX mains, and 20 lap SX Lites mains ?? And how about not smoothing out the track after almost every race ?? How about more deep, deep sand sections ?? OK, thats all the "how abouts" I can think of right now.

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super_fro_daddy wrote: 11:42am March 20, 2012

how about after 5 years on a 250f you are forced to move up to a 450??

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yzchris76 wrote: 11:47am March 20, 2012

Jump through a windmill and into one of three tunnels. The tunnels will move and shoot the riders out at different advantagious or disadvantagious spots on the track, just like mini golf! Don't forget the jump over the shark pool and the draw bridge crossing.

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Me_Gusta762 wrote: 11:49am March 20, 2012

@mxmofo1 They have to fix the track because otherwise they would be racing on the concrete floors after the 2nd 450 heat. But none of these... This isn't NASCAR.

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halfe316 wrote: 11:54am March 20, 2012

how about supercross using a 20 min + 2 format so that regardless of the track, we have a full race...baseball stadiums are a joke for SX...too small...45 sec laptimes are fine, but race length is greatly diminished

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Cooks6161 wrote: 11:58am March 20, 2012

Those are all dumb, but I loved the single file start. Now wave off lapped riders, some guys get into the main and don't even try. Get them off the track.

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smee113 wrote: 11:59am March 20, 2012

Oh, so this is why they disable comments on polls. Seriously, you guys have no sense of humor. Lighten up.

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mxmofo1 wrote: 11:59am March 20, 2012

@Me_Gusta762,, hahahaha,, on the inside ruts maybe, but I think they could fix that problem pretty easily. Also, I'm talking about the faces on the jumps, the whoops, and the outside of the corners. Ruts are goooooood....

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Me_Gusta762 wrote: 12:14pm March 20, 2012

@mxmofo1 haha, Very true, very true indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing some deep ruts formed to the point where they're so deep they are unusable, forcing the riders to come up with different lines making the racing tougher and possibly closer.

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Me_Gusta762 wrote: 12:14pm March 20, 2012

@mxmofo1 haha, Very true, very true indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing some deep ruts formed to the point where they're so deep they are unusable, forcing the riders to come up with different lines making the racing tougher and possibly closer.

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yzchris76 wrote: 12:18pm March 20, 2012

What about putting each rider in a big Hamster ball? would be very entertaining.........

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731Chopper wrote: 12:22pm March 20, 2012

How about forcing the lites/250F champions to the big boy 450F class. If they forced the champion up it would help the churn of talent for the premiere class. This whole "gotta defend my title" in the lites class is a little goofy. The teams like PC and Geico Honda should definitely still get their #1 plates to hang up and boast but the sport needs the talent at the top, and that is in the 450 class not the lites.

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Donavan27 wrote: 12:34pm March 20, 2012

Agreed there are no good ideas here. I would like to see timed races, + 2 laps like the outdoors. Makes for a better race when you get the short laps times and keeps it consistent for the mudders. And quit making the whoops easier for the night program.

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fred wrote: 12:50pm March 20, 2012

I'm with mxmofo1 25 lap mains in SX. I loved the staggered start.

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WFO_UFO wrote: 1:18pm March 20, 2012

I thought it was funny- corkscrews and loop de loops would be a nice addition also.

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Claxton wrote: 1:35pm March 20, 2012

Two motos instead of one with no heat races and top 5 qualifiers on first gate and top five first moto finishers on second moto first gate. A 2 second delay between gates and this way you get the 5 fastest riders out together for better racing and the other 15 don't interfere with the race which they never do much anyway. This way the start does not determine the outcome like it does in so many of these supercross shorties.

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jeffee wrote: 2:22pm March 20, 2012

i miss the qualifier races to to get into the qualifiers.. ;) timed practice is no fun.. lets see more racing!

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B-KR wrote: 2:51pm March 20, 2012

What is this nonsense and why did hundreds of people vote on any of it?

This seems to be taking a shot at the single file restart which I think everyone was digging. I think they should restart all red flags like this if they get past lap 1.

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xxktm wrote: 3:45pm March 20, 2012

Eight guys to the main from the heats, four guys from the LCQ. I dont like seeing guys not make mains who should be there because of a starting straight/first turn melees or mechanicals. The battles would still be intense for the last spots but the better riders should still end up in the main. Add a couple of laps to the mains and LCQs as well. While we're at it, put everyone on 250f's and make the lites an age class.

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southernboy wrote: 4:05pm March 20, 2012

The single file start was totally fair. There should only be one chance at a holeshot, so I'm against lining them back up for a restart, unless there's a big first-turn pileup. How about talking your boss into lobbying for equal displacement rules so the privateers can afford to race a semi-competetive bike? I hear DC has some pull in the outdoor series:)

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Riff Raff wrote: 4:07pm March 20, 2012

Windmill jumps are for sissies, an alligator pit with a sippe hole would be cool .......

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Aron213 wrote: 4:14pm March 20, 2012

two things I would like
1. 20 min + 2 laps in SX, 15min + 2 in Lites, these 48 second laps suck

2. How about having a 2 stroke class, give the riders 2 practices, top 20 times have a 10 lap shootout before the LCQ's

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YAMAHAULER wrote: 4:38pm March 20, 2012

How about this. Don't let any of the factory riders use special FACTORY part's, tires or special one off custom equipment unless that part is available to everyone and not at a outrageous price. How can a privateer compete with these high dollar FACTORY bikes when they only have mom and dad or even no backup but they do know how to ride a dirtbike at pro level. I think it's very unfare.

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GWN wrote: 5:06pm March 20, 2012

I like the restart but it should be a single file rolling start. I don't know why the guys in the back waited so long to get going. I would have thought everyone could take off as soon as the board dropped. If not they could have been single file. Why stagger if you don't all go at once?

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normanmx wrote: 9:19pm March 20, 2012

Seems fair but strange to me..
Like F1 ..If this is the tendency lets hope security measures are next.

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2003RACER8M wrote: 9:55pm March 20, 2012

GET THE F'IN NASCAR ASSES OUT OF OUR SPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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2003RACER8M wrote: 9:58pm March 20, 2012

Aron213: Why not let the 250 2-strokes in the lites class? And increase the limit to 300 for 2-strokes in the SX class.

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gregg48 wrote: 10:55pm March 20, 2012

love the restart "but " have staggered gates ready if needed. Flagged starts leave to much open

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brad86_mx wrote: 12:11pm March 21, 2012

Staggered restarts have been the AMA amateur legal way to do red flags in which more than one lap has been completed for years and years. I don't understand how Speed or the pro riders have never heard of it before. Haven't these guys been racing their whole lives? I've personally been at several AMA amateur races where they did staggered restarts. Every time the pros do a complete restart after several laps I get mad because it's not the legal or fair way to deal with red flags.

Staggered starts are the fair way to deal with red flags. It's not fair if someone gets the holeshot on the first start and then the race is halfway over and the AMA restarts the entire race. It can change the outcome of the entire race!

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motoxdoc wrote: 2:17pm March 21, 2012

A windmill with razorblades......or how about a flaming mote?

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eli949494 wrote: 1:45am March 31, 2012

I was at indy, and i think it was very fair the staggered start. the start is half the battle, and the race pretty much resumed right where it left off (some guys closer than before, but so be it) anyway good rule I think. I can see a restart before three or four laps, but after that, the leaders have already been established, and they deserve not to be robbed because someone gets hurt

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