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The List: Honda and Yamaha of Troy

Wednesday, March 14, 2012 | 4:45 PM
By Dean Baker

Last week the motocross world lost late Phil Alderton, who owned the powerhouse satellite team Honda (and then Yamaha) of Troy and revolutionized the role of the satellite team in the sport. JGR Yamaha’s lead engine man, Dean Baker—who spent ten years at HoT/YoT—gives us his thoughts and memories of the best riders who competed for Phil’s “Fifth Dragon.”

I was there from the tail end of the 1993 outdoor season, where I worked with Jeremy Buehl, and then we picked up Johnny O’Mara’s Hondas and did the 125 nationals once the 250 nationals stopped. I knew Phil previously, but that’s how I came to work for his team—that fall of ’93. I worked there from ’93 through the 2003 season.

I remember Phil as a guy who gave me a huge career opportunity as a mechanic and as a friend; he was a really giving person. You hear about people giving a shirt off their backs, but seriously, Phil literally would. He was a great friend to me and I went through a lot of his struggles with him, and I wish I could have done more for him. He was a very good friend to me.

The whole thing for me working for Phil was really, really good. I worked as a mechanic for five years and then as the motor development guy for the last five years. Erik said he believed in me and knew I could do the motors for the team. It was a great time for me to learn and figure things out, and without Erik and Phil believing in me, I wouldn’t be where I am today.

Todd DeHoop was the original guy for the Honda of Troy team, him in his own box van with some support at the nationals and supercrosses. He was my first guy at HoT, and I thought the world of him. I thought he was a great rider and we really respected each other. It was the early beginnings and it was super cool for me to have that job—I was a retired rider looking for something to do in motocross and this was the start. We didn’t aim for race wins, but Todd was a very capable top-ten guy and we often got there. He’d give you everything he had, and sometimes that meant riding over his head. He wasn’t scared to twist the throttle.

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Todd Dehoop was the OG of Honda of Troy.
Photo: DC

Erik Kehoe was another guy who was wrapping up his career, and although Todd was the original rider for HoT, I think Kehoe put them on the map. He was a guy that could win nationals, and maybe he was getting a bit old for supercross. (He could still win outdoors, and he’s known for that launch at Gainesville. Look who he’s beating out there—Jeremy McGrath!) He was a great guy to work with, and he was really focused on the job at hand. He was very serious and I was in a different position when I was involved with him, in that he was an elder statesmen type of guy. There wasn’t much goofing off with him. He made me a bit nervous because he was a big name and took it so seriously. Later on he got injured, broke his back for the second time, and became the team manager at HoT. We all thought that was an awesome idea to have him there. It was a blessing to have him there with his knowledge, and he was already a good business guy when he was a racer. He was great at managing like he was racing. He was manager there for five or six years before he left for factory Honda.

Mike Craig was my pick to work for as a mechanic. I first worked for Mike toward the end of 1994 when Yamaha let him go. At the end of the season Phil told me he was going to break us up because I was expecting too much out of him! I was a little bummed, to say the least. Saying that, though, like Dehoop, you acknowledge their talent level, and to me, Todd was a top-ten guy. But Mike was so talented, I thought he should have been a top-three guy easily. That’s what I expected out of him, and when he would goof up and maybe not even show up, it was hard not to be disappointed. I was pumped up and thought that we could win some races.

The following year, in 1995, I worked for Jamie Dobb, and Mike had Shawn Persinger, another mechanic, work for him. For 1996, Craig indicated he wanted me back and Phil gave me a choice of riders to work for. I picked Mike because he was the most talented guy. I thought that with some hard work, he could win. Crazy talented guy. One time he stayed back in Florida with us while we did the Atlanta and Orlando Supercrosses and the Gainesville National so he was stuck with us. He had to answer to us and had a daily schedule with the team. We did a lot of testing those weeks, and inadvertently he got a lot of riding time on the bike. So at the first moto at Gainesville, he was running away with it, and with two laps to go I was high-fiving with Kenny Watson about my guy winning it … and then, boom, he crashed. That was the last time I celebrated before the race was over. He was so talented, but he was a little bit of a loose cannon upstairs.

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That's Erik Kehoe (left) launching the finish line jump at Gainesville en route to a victory of Jeremy McGrath.
Photo: Paul Buckley

Larry Ward was another guy who had some good finishes for us. He was super picky about his bike and always wanting the right setup. Maybe sometimes he forgot to go race the bike when it was all said and done. Larry was a good guy for the team—he brought us some attention, and looking back, we had the ’97 CR250s, and they were a little evil-handling for sure.

Mike Kiedrowski was similar to Kehoe, a hard worker and hard trainer. He knew what he wanted in a bike, and I think he caused everyone on the team to step up their game a bit because he was coming off a factory team and knew how they worked. I remember Honda kicking down some works parts for Mike and giving him quite a bit of support. Before he got injured, he was progressing each race and getting better and better. I think he ended up breaking a finger or something that put him out for a while.

Mike Brown won our first race for the team in 1995 at Washougal in the 125 class. I didn’t work for him then, but I always liked him as a guy. Later on, in 1998, I got to work for Mike as a mechanic and that was my last year as a mechanic. I also think it was my most enjoyable one. I really liked working for Mike—he was such a hard worker, times ten. Just over the top. And it was sometimes a negative for him. He would run himself into the ground and probably still does. I would try to work with him with the mental stuff, and I can only imagine the pressure he put on himself to compete with Ricky Carmichael outdoors and as well in 250 supercross, which was never easy for him. He wanted to succeed in the worst way. Mike and Phil were really tight as well. Brownie rode for us three different times—it was crazy that way.

In 1999, we switched to Yamaha as their factory support and we got Ernesto Fonseca on the team. I knew him when he would come to Florida for the winter races. He’d be on this YZ80 with Kodak sponsorship and then he was riding for us on the professional level. Erik and Phil, along with Mike Guerra at Yamaha, followed him as an amateur and got him on the team. I remember thinking he had a lot of work to do on the supercross track—he had a good teacher there, because McGrath was there, and Ernie just stuck to those guys and learned everything he could. I thought he’d do well, but we had Stephane Roncada as his teammate and had more experience. I thought Ernie would play second fiddle to RonRon, but then I remember in the daytime qualifiers at his first race he was pulling a wheelie all the way down the start straight each lap and I figured he’d be okay. He won something like six straight races for us in the 250 East Region. It was an amazing year, and when he won that first main event, I was kind of amazed that my motor won the race. Although we had Casey Lytle and Casey Johnson winning on the West side, Fonseca’s wins came out of left field.

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Ernesto Fonseca was a memeber of Yamaha of Troy.
Photo: Karl Ockert

Casey Johnson never won a title for us, but he was super fast and super confident in knowing what it would take to win a race. I remember Lytle would jump anything that the big bikes could jump and Johnson would just sit there and tell us that wasn’t going to win the race. We were always like, “Really?” But come main-event time, it was Johnson standing on the top of the box. Unfortunately, he got landed on while he was winning the series and that was it. He was a good guy to have on the team.

Stephane Roncada won a title for us and we had him from the start of his career. The French guys just seem so creative, like they’re working outside the box and everyone else had blinders on. He was amazing and got his program on track in 2000 and won the SX title and almost won the outdoors as well. He was fun. You had to trick him into doing activities for training. He was always so talented, but he found a guy who figured out how to do enough physical activity to get him in shape and the wins started coming.

Nathan Ramsey won us a title on the 250F and the Ramsey Rodeo kept it exciting and fun for us. He always had the throttle pinned and his legs were just flapping behind him. With those 250Fs, early on, they were an advantage but they also had some problems. They were in their infancy, and for the most part, we didn’t push the limit but because there was no history. Maybe we were pushing the limit. We were finding out what was durable and what wasn’t. It’s different to simulate a race condition in practice, and our durability testing was insane trying to find out what was a weak part and what wasn’t. Then sometimes parts with low hours on them would bite you. With a new bike, it was important to make it successful and not have any failures. I guess we did a good enough job to win titles, but there were a few times you could follow the oil trail back to the pits.

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J-Law was the last rider to bring home a title to Yamaha of Troy.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

Chad Reed, we had him in his first year as a professional, and I don’t think he wanted to be on the 250—and he let us know it. He had a little chip on his shoulder because he had to start in the Lites class. He was always looking forward to the big bikes. That was a good indicator of his drive. We were lucky to have a guy of Chad’s caliber. He won some 250 GPs against some seriously fast guys, and he had great supercross skills, coming from Australia. He dominated that supercross series and had a real strong showing in the outdoors where only James Stewart was able to beat him. We had some great races with him, but Stewart had a little more speed.

Jason Lawrence was the last guy to win a title for the team, and I was gone at that point, but he was able to win the 250 West for the YoT guys. He out-dueled Ryan Dungey for the title that year, and although the team wasn’t as strong as it was in its heyday, it still showed that the guys running it at the time could pull off something as hard as winning a title.

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Kilroy wrote: 5:11pm March 14, 2012

Dehoops box van was one of the coolest of all time. A cab over tractor with a cool box on the back.

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biker143 wrote: 5:51pm March 14, 2012

Yamaha of Troy always had great looking bikes and there gear was cool to, I remember that blue and orange Fox gear, I wanted it so bad but they didnt sell to the public back then, It was made for yamaha of Troy only.

They were always a strong team what a shame, I used to order all my parts from them to, great people to deal with back then.

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DPoe322 wrote: 5:58pm March 14, 2012

I would love to see the video of Kehoe passing MC at the finish. I've been looking around all over the net and can't find it. Anyone have the link or know where I could find it?

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shm1x wrote: 6:07pm March 14, 2012

Thanks Baker, good read , RIP Phil , good guy for sure...

Ramsey didnt get a title for YOT , and Jesseman beat Chad outdoors 03 too...

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Kilroy wrote: 6:38pm March 14, 2012

I am surprised nothing was said about Davey Yezek. I believe he won a few races for them and almost won the east coast title one year.

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Cahill wrote: 7:30pm March 14, 2012

The world needs more JLaw. I was there for his first and last podium, and I think without a doubt he could be winning 450 supercross races right now. I hope he comes back. If Josh Hansen, who has been around since 01' can break finally break into the top 5 after all this time, and eveything he's been through, there's no question Jlaw can do it as well.

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skycooper wrote: 9:17pm March 14, 2012

Let's not forget our local boy Broc Sellards.

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bd200 wrote: 10:41pm March 14, 2012

@shm1x--No he didnt. Reed ran the 250/450 class outdoors that year, and lost to RC and K-Dub finished second, Reed finished 3rd..

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jford199 wrote: 11:19pm March 14, 2012

Wrong bd200, Reed did outdoors on a 250f, I like Reed, but he started talking sh$t about just needing a start and he could take Bubba... Bubba got pissed about it 1/4 thru the race he was leading, slowed down, watched Reed pass him, let him take off, then dropped the f$ckin hammer, passed, gapped, and won. Reed was livid in the post race interview. Reed dominated the East coast though, Jesseman got the only win, preventing the sweep! Reed got a bad start or wrecked, was absolutely flying, literally, to catch Jesseman, I remember rewinding one jump Reed launched it least 4x's, hit the triple pinned and climbed on top of the bike midair to keep it down (pre major scrub days), had not ever seen anything like it, that dude wanted that sweep so bad!

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Redneckrider wrote: 4:42am March 15, 2012

@jford199 - Bubba was faster that year but Reed had him covered as far as toughness goes. I remember him getting his shoulder popped out of socket, then going and slamming his shoulder into a tree to pop it back in. Pure badass.

Bubba would have just cried like Nancy Karigan getting hit in the knee.

I used to really like the YOT Drago graphics. Still think they were some of the coolest ever.

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shm1x wrote: 7:00am March 15, 2012

@bd200 your right, 02 i meant, thanks

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throttletwister wrote: 10:59am March 15, 2012

"The world needs more JLaw."

There are more than enough JLaw´s in every jail across the country.
Glad that this idiot is out of the sport.

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carlsbad wrote: 1:34pm March 15, 2012

Rest in peace Phil "Flipper" Alderton. As a (still) fairly young sport, we are watching the architects of our sport leave us behind and it's still difficult to endure their passing. When comparisons are made, Alderton's contributions to bringing the sport out of the "box van" era into a new age of professionalism will count at / near the top. Above & beyond motorcycles, Phil seemed to me like a truly "good guy".

It's a shame about Jason Lawrence but, what can you do? At the end of the day he's STILL a kid that got caught up in a bad program. I will miss seeing the phenomenal performances from that talent and hope for the best for him in his personal life and future endeavors.

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jaypal wrote: 2:34pm March 15, 2012

It not a very good shot but the video is here at 2:50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0cfZ0Tj4c

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AC89 wrote: 2:57pm March 15, 2012

when did Kiedrowski ride for HOT? I thought he went from team green to team honda, then Kawi, then retired. There was a gncc comeback awhile back I think too, but HOT?

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lieb248 wrote: 3:32pm March 15, 2012

@AC89 Kiedrowski retired at the end of 95 missed all of 1996 then made a comeback with HOT in 1997 but was injured half way through sx, but did get top ten,s including a season best fifth or sixth, then retired for good.

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reality wrote: 12:43am March 17, 2012

glad to hear the yezek mention. wasnt nick wey there to maybe??

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reality wrote: 12:50am March 17, 2012

was wrong about wey, saw one guy mentioned sellards, hansen was also there to

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LarryWitmer wrote: 1:24pm March 19, 2012

Late comment, but Phil was a class act. We used to bang bars at Indiana and
Ohio tracks when He owned Husky of Dayton. Always a great friend. Godspeed.

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