by Davey Coombs
250 Words: Dallas
Sunday, February 19, 2012 | 4:45 PM
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Young men behaving badly? Now that's entertainment! At least that is what I was thinking as I watched the opening round of the East Region Lites play out under the big screen in Dallas. And when guest commentator Ricky Carmichael wondered out loud if the erratic Malcolm Stewart was “in a timeout” after he tangled with rookie Justin Bogle, it was laugh-out-loud funny. Unless you were Malcolm, and certainly Justin, who not only lost a clean shot at the podium when the younger Stewart took him out, but then reacted badly by slapping the back of Mookie's helmet. It was an entertaining end to a night of old-fashioned banging in the Lites class.
Race winner Justin Barcia rode exactly the way you would expect a kid known as “Bam Bam” to ride, trading aggressive passes with the likes of Blake Wharton, Darryn Duham and everyone else on his way to the win. That's not the kind of racing we've seen for the first six weeks of the season out West, where they have been racing with less offense against one another.
The racing was close in Dallas. Will the aggression level go up even further in Atlanta?
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The turbulent action had to be an eye-opening for Ken Roczen, the third-place finisher who many felt would be the big favorite here. He made it through fairly unscathed, but he waited too long to start moving forward in the main (the opposite of what he did in winning his heat race) and let Barcia get away once he cleared Darryn Durham.
Roczen now knows for sure—as does Durham, Wharton and the rest—that beating Barcia will likely include banging with him, and that's something the red-plated GEICO Honda rider has no problem doing. Watch closely from here on out, because the gloves are already off in this wild region.
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Nice, the east series is going to be so much better than the west was. Barcia is a man on fire, its gonna take so bar banging to beat him. I think Mookie Is an idiot for what he did, what a dork. I think he is more worried about looking cool than winning. Yea, we`ll see where that attitude takes him
Just wait and see what Mookie has planned for Barica.Barcia better have his Geico insurance paid up.He's gonna need it.
@fred
Let's just hope State Farm can cover that...
Barcia is a thug, no respect for that kind of riding style. Yea, he may come out the winner of this series but for all the wrong reasons. Sad to see, hopefully he can clean things up, especially against his own teammate.
@Severson720.Yeah Speed will probably call it the Mookie Prgressive Insurance takeout move of the week.Mookie Flo's over Barcia.
I hope Roczen can start in front of Barcia most races and not have to deal with him.
Malcolm will end up injured and out of SX and not back until half way through the Outdoor series if he keeps that up. Stewpid is as Stewpid does...
I always wondered what it says about someone's psychological makeup when they like a racer because he smashes into everyone as opposed to those that dislike the same guy for the very same reason. I don't know what the competition needs to do to avoid getting smashed up by Barcia because he is fast and will catch most after a bad start, and then ram into them. Maybe he gets a lot of fan feedback from those that enjoy his antics which makes him more eager to do it? Surprised sponsors and team ownership are okay with it. I think this is the year it gets out of hand and someone ends up blackflagged or suspended or something for this kind of racing. If he takes out a PC guy, I would bet Mitch is all over someone to do something about it.
Welcome back to pro racing, Blake Wharton. Through out the night, he got stuffed big time at least three times I can think of.
I didn't appreciate the over aggressive racing from Barcia, Stewart and even Durham. It makes the sport look very unprofessional IMO. These guys are high paid commodities but when they ride like that they act like fair ground riders. Plus it doesn't help that RC and Emig act so nonchalant about it on the broadcast.
Theres only one way to stop the schoolyard bully
JimM
Pala374
Apparently the MX world is 50% tough guys and 50% little girls. Pizzacorner how is it you defend Barcia and say anyone that doesn't like it is a little girl but then say someone should yank a guy off their bike and you have done it to someone who takes you out? So it isn't okay when it happens to you but okay for everyone else? I might just rip a guy off a bike as well, but at the same time I ain't gonna defend it being done to others if I have such a problem with it.
Chosen1, already decided on your ride in other post. Rejected due to inability to pass without slamdancing. My sponsors would not condone it. Maybe if you learned to win without such measures?
@Greenmeansgo
Thats a bold statement considering that the east is only 15 laps in and he wasn't the one on the ground. Seems as if bogle took himself out of a few races from being immature and hurting his hand from the slap. Didn't look like he finished the race. Not saying you're right or wrong but I think thats a dumb call to make on a rider.
I've never paid much attention to the lites last year, and I never realized how much barcia bangs people around until last night.
I dont see were Barcia did anything so bad in the Dallas race.. He wasnt dirty at all. Malcolnm was alot worse than Barcia. And I dont remember Barcia being dirty last supercross season either. I wish someone would show something were he did anything dirty in Dallas or last season. He was the only rider who podiumed every race last year. and waxed everyone. Maybe thats why everyone doesnt like him..
I would LOVE for a pizzacorner to just try and rip me off my bike, that would be great!!
Honestly, we need more bar banging in this sport, A little contact here and there is in a fact a good thing
Barcia rides hard and does not waste anytime in passing guys and this is not a bad trait to posses. Sure some of his passes are aggressive- but it's racing.. if you leave the door open a crack, he will smash it the rest of the way in and take the spot moving himself up a position while racing for a win! More racers need this mentaility instead of riding around in 6th and 7th place collecting a paycheck.
As far as the Chosen1 comments about coming to America- show up at a local track here in Cali as soon as you can and see what happens....
Watching it live, I thought Barcia was agressive, not dirty, Durham moving Wharton out of the way, looked bad, and Malcom's take out of Bogle looked uncalled for. West coast plays nice, East coast roughs you up, least ways now they all know how the game will be played and what it will take to be on top at the end of the season .
I thought the aggressive riding was very entertaining and shows just how much these guys want to be up front. They are getting paid to want to win, not to want to play follow the leader. Do you think Barcia cares what anyone on a comment section like this thinks?? He will be rolling in the dough as soon as he becomes a Factory Honda 450 rider and he will get that ride by being aggressive and winning, not by being buddies with the other riders that are trying to steal his job.
AMA should start watching who is doing wrong and who is not, and they should take away points or suspended if it's necessary. For now everybody here "SHUT UP AND RIDE" ...
Obviously there is a double standard at work here relative to Stewart and Barcia. When Barcia or someone else bangs bars, it's OK - even when most of the time it's totally unnecessary. When 'lil Stew does it, it's just dirty. That's a double standard and it's no secret what drives it. That is the same reason it's not a valid argument. We either like hard-hitting passes, or we don't. Try to pick a side of the fence and stay there.
Barcia Needs to get cleaned out!!
During the heat race and Main event he was trying to take out everyone that he could, including one of his past teamates (Wharton) that you would think he would have more respect for Wharton not to try to take him out, also he tried a couple times to try to take out his OWN TEAMATE!! (Bogle). I would think his team manager or owner would blow up on him or get after him for his actions.
I dont hate occasional bar banging or anything like that but Barcia is constanly doing it and it gets old after a while. Espeasially when its on his own teamate!! I have no respect for this D-Bag!!
"The Chosen1" wrote "Say what you want about Barcia but, he can dish it out and take it right back without crying" Actually he does cry!! At the King Of Bercy race a couple months ago at the start of a main Barcia was accidently hit and Barcia went down, (it was no ones fault) and Barcia waited for the guy to come back around the track as Barcia held the guy that accidently hit him up in a corner and stopped him to give him and the crowd the finger!! they then had a few words and when the guy got off his bike to go kick his a** Barcia ran away like a little B**CH!!
So yes Barcia does cry when things happen to him even if it is on accident!!
Barcia needs to be black flagged and Feld and the AMA need to get this kid under control before he does real damage on someone. I cant believe his team puts up with him and makes the whole Geico team look bad in the US and in ather countries!!
Someday he will be in 450 class and they will not put up with him.
Once again I have no respect for Barcia.
do you even ride pizzacorner ?
Bd200,, give me a freakin' break... JB hit everyone he passed in practice, in his heat race, and in the main. You are just clearly a Stewart hater.. Barcia is going to find out that paybacks are a beeeootch..
@Kremkow918:
Awesome reply to TheChosen1. He claimed Barcia can dish it out and take it without crying?! I laughed so hard I nearly cried.
Bitchia, oops, Barcia showed his true colors at Bercy, exactly like you said. Bam Bam was a real tough guy until Aranda got in his face! What a punk. What an embarassment.
No need to black flag him or anything like that - what goes around comes around, and since he decided to mess with half the field, it will come back to bite him. Someone is going to CLEAN HIM OUT when the time is right. And I will be laughing my #ss off when it happens. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Barcia has a method, it works. I wasn't surprised to see the opener be a little crazy, these guys have been waiting to race for a while now. The perfect rider that you guys are looking for doesn't exist, sometimes you have to ride a guy high, push a wheel in and maybe make some contact. Last time I checked that was racing, Barcia doesn't have time to be nice out there, he's out to win, right or wrong he dominated those other guys out there.
If Barcia did what little stew did he would be a god.
Remember across the pond a couple months ago when someone took barcia out he waited for him the next lap and rammed him like a little brat who can dish it out but can't take it? The crowd went nuts, he was lucky to get out of there alive LOL.
All im trying to say is you bang with a banger
JimM
Pala 374
The Chosen1.... So what are you saying about your comment that Barcia doesnt cry when whit happens to him, I.E. at the King Of Bercy race? Also trying to sound like a badas* over the internet talking about "getting a ride" like your pro or something just makes you sound like a Dbag. Its the internet no one cares about you trying to be badas*!
GraciousOne.......haha I couldn't remember the name of the guy.
The bar banging that takes place these days is nothing compared to what happened back in the 80's and 90's. Today it is mild!
There wasn't anything dirtly in Dallas. Malcolm's move was just a dumb move and his dad did the right thing by scolding him after the race. Loved RC's comment about being in "time out".
This is racing. Leave the inside open and the guy following will take it away on the inside. I'd rather watch an agreesive racer moving though the pack than racer's being paid and doing nothing more than being satisfied with where they are.
The "Pick up pass" perfecty executed by Mookie.
JImM
Pala374
Thanks "Grasiousone", I agree with the whole Aranda incident, I think Barcia rode away when he seen Aranda getting off his back and going after him, It looked like he was practicing a holeshot!! I agree with what goes around comes around and he will get payback sooner or later. Im just saying that i would like if AMA or Feld got involved before injuries happen. There guys are out there to race not to get there season ended. Being injured is not fun and seeing more and more racers out of racing due to injuries sucks.
I have heard enough, Justin Barcia has been racing this way since he was on a 65 in DISTRICT 34-(shout out). If everyone waited their turn to make a pass, we could kiss all the live coverage weve been getting lately good bye. TV ratings would drop, sponsorship dollars would diminsh and fan interest would....well stay the same we are a loyal bunch. Your B!tching is busch league if your rider was bar banging in the corners and making moves, the story would be diffrent. BAM BAM ALL DAY
I think Barcia is smarter than all of us. He is obviously setting precedence, and by mid-season everyone will know to just let him go (or possibly be put down). Its a great mental tactic if you ask me. Would you want him behind you?? I wouldnt. There is nothing wrong with aggressive racing as long as it doesnt get stupid i.e. swerving off triples. If J.B. is upset he lost his podium position, then he needs to work on his speed and not get caught. You cant hit what you cant catch.. sorry guys. I side with aggressive on this one
Bogle! hell yeah!
Thechosen1:
I never said Barcia laid people on the ground, I did say stuff about his attempts at doing so, suprisingly to his own Teamate Bogle, his previous teamate Wharton which you would think he would have much more respect for him to attempt to bar bang with him. and there were a couple other riders in the heat and main. Also in past races him taking guys out. I am not against riding aggresive or any of that but Barcia continues to do it every time he is on the track, suprisingly to his own teamate, thats what im getting at. I know he is fast and fast enough to pass riders without being dirty about it but thats the only way he goes about passing. I wouldnt be as concerned about his dirty riding skills if he was actually able to take getting blocked passed or what have you without throwing a temper tantrum like he did at the King of Bercy race, and most importantly he made the US look so bad with that incident. He has a lot of maturing to do and until then he will not be a respected rider to many people. And what the Fu*k are you talking about a "kitten" about and all the other sh*t that you say? You are sure one off of a person.
I'm really surprized at some of the stupid comments on here!!! You guys act like you are the grand wizards of moto. Are any of you old enough to remember when Hannah started banging and winning? Remember Rick Johnson being so driven he would ride through whoever was in front of him? Remember Damon Bradshaw?? That guy was real- and he didn't care what all the pussies thought of him!!(LIKE BARCIA) And Malcolm's move was EXACTLY the same move Reed did to JS7 last year!! Like it or not-that's racing! The way it should be!!
@mxmofo, clearly you watched a different race than me. I didnt see Barcia do anything dirty to anyone. And what does Stewie have to do with anything in the 250 class? Unless you are talking about Malcolnm, and you must not have read my post on his action, they were far from Hatefull,
I was there last night and did not see one rider go down because of barcia and saw no contact. ( dosen't mean it didn't happen) I did see Malcoms take out of Bogle they replayed it on the big screen. I condem it , it was dirty, intentional and Bogle had no chance to avoid and couldn't have seen it coming. I know big James and know he would NOT approve. I don't mind bar banging, brake checking, block passes, take them wide BUT, intentional cross jumps, t-bones, and blatant takeouts need to cost riders dearly in points and cash. We pay to see racers race for the win NOT to see a thug take someone out so you can win. If you block pass someone and brake check them so they can't get you back in the next corner, thats good racing and it makes them catch you with skill and speed. These guys know better than all of us the difference. Aggresive is good, dangerous and hurting riders is bad and I am tired of seeing riders hurt, there is enough of this without the few riders out there who ride dirty.
Another thing that REALLY pissed me off was seeing another tuff block cover caught on a footpeg and hurting another riders day. For every cover that comes off the ones behind it should be made to contribute $100,000 to the rider down foundation.
Bd200,, yes, I'm talking about malcolm. This is "250 Words." It just seems like you give Barcia a pass, then say Malcombs move was dirty ? What did you think on the pass that Reed made on JS last year.. I think you know the one I'm taking about.
Malcombs pass was not smart by amy means,, but I have seen a hell of alot worse.
YZ692, I disagree Malcoms move was NOTHING like Reeds move last year. Go back and watch both in slow motion. Reed cut the corner and was over 10 feet in front of JS and JS kept it pinned and RAN INTO Reed- go watch. JS had the choice to swerve,or brake but he didn't, he also was not tight against the tuff blocks. Bogle had NONE of those options, Malcom went straight for his front wheel.
I am a fan of none of these guys check out both moves carefully and then respond.
@TheChosen1 Bercy this year showed that Barcia can't take what he dishes out.
Like I said before, I can't wait until he gets treated as he treats others. I'm thinking next week Wharton doesn't ride as nice as he did Saturday.
How cool is it that Texan Blake Wharton is running 956 this year. I'm suprised no on has commented on that yet.
The track design played a part in the types of passes getting made out there. It wasn't just the 250's making aggressive passes. I believe RV said that everyone will be racing the same 2 'wide line before the night show even started. To make a pass you have to move the guy off the line. Happened all night. The big question is, was it planned that way?
@bd200 you are obviously a Barcia Fan, and clearly didn't watch the same race mxmofo 1, myself and many others watched, when you go into a right hand bowl turn then change directions to the LEFT to run your competitor high thats Dirty riding. There is no question that Barcia is the dirtiest rider out there IMO.
Barcia's fun to watch; you know you love watching him hit guys, and best part. you can COUNT on it. What else in life can you say that about :)
Mookie is a dorky kid. Predicting himself to be a championship contender. He's watching film in his head and getting it interlooped with his brother. He's got no championship in him, likely no wins; he's an idot and won't finish the season due to injury.
Roxzin is cool, very cool, it come from the cold Eurpoean climes he comes from. He's the one to watch in this series. Think he could be there at the end for the east at least.
When you race some guys, you know thery are goin to try and run you high, so you brake early and cut under them as Wharton did with Barcia a few times, some guys will bang your bike and tag it to imtimadate, some riders are fast enough to not use these race tactics. I dont think any of these young riders showed malous, just poor judgement as young riders often do. When Stewart came under Bogle it looked like he could have squared him up and went on past, but he tried to go ahead an take his line, and shut Justin's out side momentum down for the straight. Poor decsion as it took away Malcolm's chance for a podium,as he was looking very fast! Bogle made a poor decision too, slapping a helmet and yappin time should have been gettin back to the bike time....but these are young men who will mature into great racers!!
Most of you Wimps talking about ramming, banging, and pulling people off their bikes would not bang bars with a 6 year old on a 50. You only worry about the quiet riders they will get you if you rile them up. So stop your bragging and go back to rolling over when you get lapped and say thank you sir when you get roosted.
@Chilllmatic > Baby Stew does not have half the talent JS7 had at that age, but clearly he's learned at least one blatantly obvious take out move (like his brother has done so well) that will haunt him.
Barcia and several others banged wheels Sat. night, but no one went down in those instances. The move by Mooky was just a clear case of recklessness and stupidity. He could have 'bumped' and passed Bogle and gained some respect but instead he rode up the wall and took #49 and himself down too. The kind of dumb-@ss moves that will get him hurt.
Wouldn't be surprised if that's what Big James was giving him an earful about after the moto. Stickin' by my prediction. People are talkin' about it and it will get back to him and get in his head if he keeps it up. Not to mention, what do they say about' paybacks'...? Uh-huh.
I think Barcia is a D-Bag!Every time he made a pass in a right hand corner,he took a left into whoever was there,just to make sure he could finish the deal.I hope Wharton,Durham,Bogel(got to be someone else) lays him out.
Someone has to take J-law's spot! Sack up guys, the crashes don't affect your pay checks so sit back and enjoy the races.
supercross is all about aggression. it belongs here. i don't understand "fans" of the sport who get upset over an aggressive rider. does anybody remember bradshaw? hannah? these are icons of our sport because of their legendary aggressive styles. the modern fan base for our sport is mostly pansies
@davidl - I absolutely agree with you. I was thinking the very same thing yesterday just didn't want to take the time to post it. I could not agree with you more.
So the track is getting one lined and hard to pass on. Well I better just ride around back here, Id hate to touch the guy in front of me. Are you girls serious?
The Hurricane, the Bad Boy, the Beast from the East. Without these guys there wouldnt even be a RacerX forum but if they were racing today ya'll would want the AMA to get rid of them.
Come back when your little sack drops........
HEY BARCIA FANS!
The reason the rest of us keep bringing up Bercy is because it happened!!! It's not a rumour, it's not made up, it's not an opinion.
And as someone on here rightly pointed out, not only did he show what a punk he is - he also embarassed the US motocross world in front of the Europeans. They must have been laughing their *sses off at what they saw when Barcia ran away from Aranda.
And all the guys going on about "That's how Hannah, Bradshaw, etc., etc." did it - what would have happened in Bercy if Aranda had come into the pits after Hannah or Bradshaw - they would have stood toe to toe with the guy and put their money where their mouth is - not run off like a coward.
Stick that in your Bam Bam pipes and smoke it!
Nothing embarrassing about sending American privateers and half the lites class to Bercy and cleaning up. When Kyle Chisholm is the King of Bercy the Euro's know whats up. No disrespect to Kyle but he isnt the best we have to offer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeVcO38zM uh, at about 3:05 you will see exactly why Barcia is a dirty rider...
and want malcolm did was dumb, but i see it as bad judgement, i doubt it will become a habit...
barcia is a tool, learn how to talk dude...
mxmofo--I will say the same thing about Reeds move on Stewie as I did last year, its was stupid and kinda dirty. I think Reed had the mentality at that race that if he wasnt going to win, neither was Stewie, and that is what I said last year too.
I didnt see Barcia take out anyone, nobody, and neither did you because he didnt. Malcoln took out Bogle, period. There is no way you can deny that. And I will say the same thing I said in my other post about it. It was kinda dirty, but all these guys including Malcolm are young, give them a break, lets hope he doesnt make a habit of it. And you say I am hateful, your a tool, and just fishing for an arguement. Grow up.
@halfe316, you call Barcia a dirty rider, and say Malcolm had bad judgement, kinda hypocritcle isnt it. Especially when Malcolm droped more riders over the weekend than Barcia did.. Can you say Stewtard??
Its so funny, the same 3 or 4 Stewtards will take up for a Stewart, any Stewart no matter what. "Mookles" made a totally dumb move and took a guy down in his first ever supercross. and he catches a little he!!, and the Stewtards go nuts defending him, trying to say "Waht about Reeds move last year?" Well what about it?? That move has nothing to do with Malcolm and Bogle. You same guys chastaised Reed for that move, but defend Malcolm, kinda like a bunch of hypocrites.. If you hammer one guy,then hammer another for the same thing..
@halfe316- Bad example of why you think Barcia is dirty rider! When Barcia made his move for that pass the other rider could not hold his line.Thats his own fault for not being aggresive enough. MAybe he should go play golf! If the line is not going to come to you...go to it. Thats exactly what BARCIA did. Its reasons for this that we are here talking about it and not making six figures racing motocross, doing photoshoots, and winning championships. Do yourself a favor SHUT UP! and just accept the fact that he is what our sport stands for. HOT NASTY BAD ASS SPEED! -elenore roosevelt
@halfe316
That wasn't barcia making that pass, it was Wharton. Sipes couldn't hold his line because he ran him high in the corner. But if you leave the door open like that, expect a hard pass, just like Bogle and sipes in that race.
How about...........its motocross and sh$t happens. The end!
I note that not one of the Barcia worshippers have come up with a comeback to my last post - because it's true. Go on, guys. Tell me what would have happened if Aranda had gotten in Hannah or Bradshaw's face! Maybe they would have stomped Aranda, maybe he would have stomped them. But they sure as heck wouldn't have run away.
Fact.
Lost in all this stuff fest up front was WTF happened to Bagget? The kid still is a mystery to me, how he can be so fast one week and a non factor the next. And what happened to Cunningham?
Wait for Matthes "Observations" to give us the scoop on Bagget. and there are some unbelieveable Pussies on these treads, that obviously never had a footpeg smash a clutch cover or two !
davidl-----you could be right-Stewart could have hit the brakes and backed off--but I'd bet he never thought a world class rider like Reed would take him out!! I don't know--you don't know. I just brought that up as a example. You don't get to be a SX/MX champion by being a mid-pack nice guy!! Remember when everybody bashed RC for being aggresive??? Look what that got him!!