by Aaron Hansel
Super Spoiler: San Diego
Sunday, February 12, 2012 | 1:10 AM
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A brief summary of the action from San Diego
It seems that the Monster Energy AMA Supercross series gets more interesting with each passing round, and San Diego was no exception.
In the Lites main, Vince Friese nabbed the holeshot, but Dean Wilson wasted no time in taking the lead away. Wilson proceeded to check out, and led every single lap of the race en route to his second victory of the year. Behind him, carnage. Musquin went down after colliding with Tomac, who bobbled on a reverse dragon’s back, and over the next few laps, it seemed like there were riders down in just about every section. Jason Anderson, Martin Davalos, Marvin Musquin, Eli Tomac, and a host of other riders all hit the dirt. Tomac’s crash was especially costly, as it resulted in a DNF. The crash came when Tomac was charging through the whoops in third place. The result? A complete shakeup in the points, with Wilson as the series’ new points leader. Cole Seely took second, with Matt Moss rounding out the podium.
When the gate dropped for the supercross main, Metcalfe rocketed out of the gate to take the holeshot. Behind him were Jake Weimer, Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Ryan Dungey and Kevin Windham. Several laps into the race, Villopoto had moved into the lead, followed by Reed. Reed kept RV in sight, but wasn’t close enough to challenge. Then, in the closing stages of the race, the two ran into lapped traffic and Reed started reeling Villopoto in. Reed was able to make a move stick, only to see RV get him back with one lap to go. RV held onto the lead for the win, followed by Reed, Dungey, Metcalfe, and Josh Hansen.
James Stewart ran as high as third, but he went down in the whoops and became entangled in his bike. He lost a lot of time before remounting, and could only charge back to fifteenth. Windham was riding great, and had worked his way into fourth before going down in the whoops and finishing in sixteenth. Jake Weimer had multiple crashes and pulled out after completing nine laps.
Stay tuned, a full race report will be posted soon.
It seems that the Monster Energy AMA Supercross series gets more interesting with each passing round, and San Diego was no exception.In the Lites main, Vince Friese nabbed the holeshot, but Dean Wilson wasted no time in taking the lead away. Wilson proceeded to check out, and led every single lap of the race en route to his second victory of the year. Behind him, carnage. Musquin went down after colliding with Tomac, who bobbled on a reverse dragon’s back, and over the next few laps, it seemed like there were riders down in just about every section. Jason Anderson, Martin Davalos, Marvin Musquin, Eli Tomac, and a host of other riders all hit the dirt. Tomac’s crash was especially costly, as it resulted in a DNF. The crash came when Tomac was charging through the whoops in third place. The result? A complete shakeup in the points, with Wilson as the series’ new points leader. Cole Seely took second, with Matt Moss rounding out the podium.
When the gate dropped for the supercross main, Metcalfe rocketed out of the gate to take the holeshot. Behind him were Jake Weimer, Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Ryan Dungey and Kevin Windham. Several laps into the race, Villopoto had moved into the lead, followed by Reed. Reed kept RV in sight, but wasn’t close enough to challenge. Then, in the closing stages of the race, the two ran into lapped traffic and Reed started reeling Villopoto in. Reed was able to make a move stick, only to see RV get him back with one lap to go. RV held onto the lead for the win, followed by Reed, Dungey, Metcalfe, and Josh Hansen.
James Stewart ran as high as third, but he went down in the whoops and became entangled in his bike. He lost a lot of time before remounting, and could only charge back to fifteenth. Windham was riding great, and had worked his way into fourth before going down in the whoops and finishing in sixteenth. Jake Weimer had multiple crashes and pulled out after completing nine laps.
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Tough break for Tomac but kinda thought it was coming the way he was overriding the tracks. Congrats Wilson, very smooth and patient, now the lead, deserved.
Whoomp! Dare it iz!
My 12 yr old daughter asked me why they don't have an Asteriks mule just follow the blue #7 bike around every week ! Go figure?
B M D
Children are much more likely to speak the truth.
"The Emperor's New Clothes"
RV1 great ride. Nice 6 point swing by passing Reed back. Great racing while Stewart was singing his favorite song "I'm on the ground again"
Rockhard Bonehead award goes to Tomac.Now I see what Ping was talking about.That track was a death trap.What about Mike Ahole#800.They need to straight up DQ him.Plus give him a big fine.
Children are much more likely to speak the truth.
"the emperor has no clothes"
from The Emperor's New Clothes
- Hans Christian Andersen
Really bummed at KW going down and not finishing 4th, Weimer had a rough night. Bummed for AS, Muscin, Tomac, and others. It was a rough night, RD struggled with whoops and a few other spots, but then glad to see him make some aggresive moves. Please Reed don't start whining about RVs aggressive pass, it was clean and you rode awesome. lappers were really bad to the point they should be penalized, but hey it helped CR catch RV and really they both rode clean. Track was VERY tough tonite.
Darn you KW you could have gained 15 points on JS !
i know Bates is just doing her job (irritating as hell), but if i were Tomac i would have just stared at her and not said a word; that would have been classic!
maybe dungey's frame is too soft for 100yds of whoops... ;) lol
@ Scrub-This WTF? Huh!
Something tells me that Reeds not a big fan of RV.
JS, so much talent, so little succes in the SX class; know he's got to be frustrated.
Hats off to RV; a real champion.
Reed, still in it after so long in the class; thanks Chad, we appreciate the effort you bring every week.
chad almost got it. but villopoto was just faster and smarter.
as for stewart, he crashed in the whoops where tomac also crashed...
too bad...
Something tells me Reed will clean RV's plow soon.
Before the gate dropped in the main tonight i called a JS crash in the whoops.......somehow i just knew!! I never pull for Reed, but that was an impressive ride hanging all 20 with RV...i just wish he would have made that pass stick.......this just might elevate his game a little more!!
Good nite of racing that's for sure, but I do wish that Emig ( *that's what it takes to be a champion ) ha-ha, would stop sounding like a arrogant ass.It would be nice if they would bring back Ping or Bailey and send him back to the Fro party bus..Also bring back Erin Normoyle, Erin Bates seems too awkward and always asks the same stupid questions with even dumber commentary. Even the riders expressions sometimes convey a questioning look at her sometimes, like Duh Girl. Anyway we have a long way to go with some great racing yet to come ( I will just use the mute button ). Go KW and long live Bob Hannah!
this is not the same js there is something wrong the guys are not faster js used to beat cr all the time. if rc was there he would kick every ones butt. cr is riding as good as he ever did
Reed really needs to stop with whatever he's complaining about now. RV passed him clean and left him plenty of room and he sounds like he is going to be playing rollerball from here out. Watch out RV. As for the whoops, I think we all knew they would cause problems and we all hate seeing people get hurt so why isn't everyone against obstacles that are going to hurt people? The 250 class and Dungey looked like novices going through there and when you have the likes of Stewie and K-Dub going down there maybe it is a little much. And Alessi needs to act like a lapper when getting lapped......all the lappers do.
Not sure Reed would want to take our RV. RV is no Dungey, I have feeling RV would be more than happy to return the favor. Not really sure why Reed would be mad at RV anyway. His pass was aggressive but clean.
Maybe Alessi saw a chance to finally get back at RV,cuz he can't do it racing him.
JS7, not sure what to say anymore.
Msg to Joe Gibbs- I don't care what Yamaha paid you, sell them and buy a Suzuki (they don't have a top 3 rider) or a Kawi and do it before JS gets paralized. This is terrible and it isn't the rider. The guy was 4 seconds a lap faster than anyone else on other brands. Millsaps is a prior winner. Neither of these guys is in the hunt and the fact of the matter is when it goes wrong for JS it goes very, very wrong.
Yamaha- put away your pride and fix the bike. It obviously doesn't work at the top level.
I would disagree PorcTree, Reed is riding better than he ever has these last 2 years. I think the difference is a combination of James not riding outdoors for 3 years and Reed being out there for those same 3 years starting in 2009. Stewy has definitely lost a step, while a few others have gained a step or three.
Wow, James was 4 seconds faster a lap at one time? That is such an exagerration. In fact, there were times in 2007-2008 where we were commenting that RV had faster laps in the 250 class. There were plenty of times in his perfect season where he was only a handful of seconds ahead of Alessi at the finish. You can go back and look at results including lap times for any of James' 450 title years and see he wasn't THAT much faster than the competition.
i think rc can beat any of these guys he should of never quit he would of beat all mc records
Im sorry to all my fans for picking yamaha and ruining my career...its just that the money was so good so that I could buy all this bling around my neck and the lamborghini im driving right now wouldn't you do the same? I also know that I wreck a lot but its because of this shitty yamaha. we'll try to get it fixed but we can't fix the stability problems it has because we are not allowed to modify the frame which is the major problem we have. Hopefully Yamaha pulls their head out of their asses and puts a little R&D money into the bike so that I won't wreck as much next year.
HAHA I CALLED IT B4 the race. I said JS would go down at the whoops and whola. Just like i called it man. I knew someone was gonna lose it there and the top 4 JS is the most prone to mistakes. Now theres no doubt in the heat race the PIREllis werent hooking well. He needs another Bike. That YAmaha just isnt cutting it at the top level. Whats funny is JS7 developed the winning green bike that RV is winning on. Reed surprised me on not getting agressive. I know he is pissed at himself.
I think Reedy and Wiemer need to go practice together this week- And Stewart should probably be running some 'Asterisk Mule' stickers on that Yammie. Maybe some 'Johnson and Johnson' stickers too.
Nice guys finish second? Not trying to hate on reed but that pass was clean no contact was made. I thought Reed rode amazing and kept RV in check the whole race.
"meteorite" (Stewart) ,whatever he's old news, in the group I watch the races with we have a game of guessing which jump/ section "The Meteor" is going to fall. It's quite fun
It is ridicules the number of excuses the stewtards and manufacturing for lil'Stew mediocrity. lil'Stew crashed just as much on the Kawasaki as he does on the Yamaha.
Of the many absurd claims the most absurd is the claim that lil'Stew
"developed" the bike the RV is winning on. lil'Stew is not capable of developing a bike, he just does not have the IQ needed. That is why he hired Tim Ferry last year.
If lil'Stew developed the Kawasaki why does not know you his development skills to develop the Yamaha. Oh, that right, Yamaha has forbid him to improve the motorcycle. And why should Yamaha waste money on improving the bike with all the new fans lil'Stew bring to the sport that will buy the bike just because lil'Stew rides.
dizzy do you know when the end of the world is
Funny to see WHATEVER get off the JS band wagon! Glad you have seen the light buddy! JK...That was a great race and stoked to see a battle at the end.
Pizzacorner...nevermind, I'm sure he is in his bed with his JS blanket!
Reed is such a poor sport! He acted like RV rode him dirty and he is the cleanest rider out there. Reed did the same thing to RV but worse last week in the second turn of the main. Reed is the greatest sport their is when he wins and a cry baby when he loses. He has always been that way. Reed did ride a great race last night and was fastest through the whoops all night. On lap 20 the way he wheel tapped the last 1/3 of the whoops was amazing. Rv proved once again that when under pressure he always delivers. It looks like Reed is getting his confidence back and going to have a good shot at the title. If Reed wouldn't have had that bid crash outdoors who knows how fast he would be at this point ! This years racing has been the best ever and I can't wait for next weekend.
Funny thing is that they said Stewart was happy with his set up an didn't wanna change it for the race. But once he got into 3rd an seen he wasn't catching RV an reed he starts pushing his limits an riding out of his head trying to catch them.. (not a bike issue thats a rider issue)..better to crash then have to admit that he straight up got beat.
wake up u muppets reed didnt whine about the pass he was pissed at himself for letting it happen..stewart is realy struggling atm wish he wld get it 2gether..go hanny gd ride..
Reed has nothing but respect for RV, don't turn it into something it is not. Will Reed ride him a little harder next race? Probably. Will he take him out? Nah. He has little respect for JS, that is why they try and take each other out. You won't see him try to put many other riders in the cheap seats.
dgizzy I bet Stewart also taught Aldon Baker how to be the best trainer in supercross and since he is Villopoto trainer now that is why RV is wining right? And are you for real that you think Stewart made RV's bike what it is? There were people winning on Kawasaki's long before Stewart started winning on it. Nathan Ramsey, Ryan Hughes, Jeff Emig and I am sure others I just dont know of off the top of my head. And Stewart only won 1 Supercross championship in 07 on a Kawi. 09 was on a YZ. And I am sure that between 2007 and 2011 and even 2012 that bike has nothing on it that it had when JS rode it.
I think, when nobody was looking, KTM swapped Dungey's bike with the one that convinced McGrath to retire early a few years back.
Good ride for Reed, but historically he is a sore loser and a bit of a cry baby. To say nice guys finish second sets the stage for his historical take outs. RV1 did a clean pass as he always does, if he wanted to punt Reed into the seats he could have, expect unnecessary fireworks from Reed if he has the opportunity.
What was up with Wiemer? In his heat race he takes someone out in a turn and is sorry and apologizes, but when it happens to him, he's comin' back next weekend with a different attitude. I like Jake, but that came off wrong.And what is the big deal with predicting JS7 will crash? Some things are a "givin' ". Much like "How will Alessi show what a buttwipe he is tonight?" Put JS on a bike-he crashes, give MA an opportunity-instant A-hole. Watch 2012 supercross-it will deliver good racing. Three things that can be counted on, for sure. I love this sport and all the drama that goes with it! Can't wait for the East!
Also, I must agree with localexpert. But now won't be the time for RV to be intimadated. He will answer to CR if he calls and I can't wit to see it!
oops that would be "wait"
I am sick of Chad Reed his stupid nice guys finish second remark. RV passed him clean and could have put him in the cheap seats if he wanted too. He better keep his pie hole shut because RV has more corner speed then he does that means he would lose in any confrontation. I guess he forgot about him center punching JS trying to win. Reed in is entire career has never beat the current top rider when he raced, like Bubba, RC, or RV. If he does start some kind of crash them to win war he better be prepared to go back to Australia. So Chadie boy, if you want to be the man you gotta' beat the man dude.
Reed knows Villopoto is a baddazz and is way too smart to on track eff with anyone as ruthless, skilled, and motivated as RV2.
Off track head games, might work on weaker minded riders, but I think real racers see right through that junk.
Claxton...I am sure Reed or any other rider gives a rats ass about you and your insight. These guys all have huge respect for each other, all four have raced clean considering how close they are. And if any of them get a chance they will put someone down if they have too. Don't be too high on RV, he took Dungey out bad and then two laps later had that epic crash. Yes Chad will go back, he just can't handle another bone head telling him that he says it how it is...learn some respect. I am sure you would get a chubby to be on a track with any of these guys!
Reed was pissed because HE wasn't aggressive enough. RV1 passed him aggressive, not dirty, and Reed just said he needs to be more aggressive. People were ready to Reed for his comments on pulp about it being too early in the season to run aggressive, RV1 passes him and wins, and it pissed him off. Never called RV1 dirty or otherwise. Great aggressive race. Reed will and can be as aggressive as anyone. That has been proven.
Well put bigtireguy!
I know Jason Lawrence had a bad night, but does anyone know how he finished?
B-KR I think it was Southwick in 06 (?), JS riding a 125 crashed on the opening lap, got up dead last, and proceeded to lap up to 2nd place at a pace of up to 4 seconds a lap faster. Not an exaggeration.
Rg807 I completely agree, something is off, you could see it in the heat race when he loses control of the bike and even Ralph Shaheen asks "is their something wrong with Stewart or his bike". This sport is all about confidence and once you lose it, very hard to come back. I know that piling on Stewart is the new sport around here but it's clear that RV and CR are dialed on their bikes while RD and JS aren't. Stewart on the RMZ is a whole different guy I think.
RG807: Oh well I thought you were talking about SX big bikes in the recent past, not outdoors 125s. That was a longggg time ago and has no bearing on Stewart SX 2012. You have to start with realizing James was in the big class in 2005 and 2006, so it was 2004 or earlier. James was still a teenager! The last 2 SX and MX 450 title winners were still racing Loretta Lynn's at that point. Most of the top 250 guys were in 4th or 5th grade. K-Dub was like 24 years old! Time moves on.
Lets tell the truth RV is reeeeeled by REED at the end, villliiipoto is scratching his head ...Reed was on fire to say the least ............Not a reed fan just the facts he,he,he,he.................
Reed can be aggressive, just dont be dirty. I thought Reed coming over on the face of some triples in front of RV in I think Pheonix, was a little dirty.. But I dont know what else Reed could have done more aggressively. But he proved he can run with the fastest guy on the track, as long as the fastest guy gets into lappers. Lappers need to get out of the freaking way..
Hey unforgiven, The truth is CR got the lead only to have RV smoke him in that corner and wave goodbye to his night. hehehehe
Ryan "Machine" Villopoto
Simply LOVED the expose by Jeff Emig and whomever that other guy is...quoting Joe Gibbs about what a fantastic "this and that" of what JS7 represents.
And exactly how's your star boy working out for you Joe? Makes me wanna run right out and buy a Toyota or Yamaha! NOT!
THANK YOU SPEED TV and looking forward favorable TV coverage for the remainder of the year.. Lets cut back on the praise you've been dishing out on select riders though Jeff and that other guy. (Whoever you are) Stop trying to prop up the latest and greatest of 21st century thugs who never fails to dish out the disappointments to his remaining fan base and done so quite nicely for many years. The "Tiger Woods" of motocross, much like the Tiger Woods of that stupid arse game...are alike in the aspects of the enormous debris fields they've left in their collective wake.
And nothing more...
Here is the fact, RV is faster then anyone in the corners, you know that place where passing is done. Windham said RV is the fastest corner man he has seen maybe that is correct. Poor JS it seems like his career is over now with more crashing then ever. RD needs a Honda rear end welded onto his KTM for the hoops.
i think weimer was crying, haha. i think RD should have stayed suzuki, or went honda.
Hey "br411", i was never on a bandwagon to begin with fella, and i am still a fan of James right now!! I'm just not sure what is up with him. I know all of you anti-james folks think you have all the answers but YOU DON'T, i just can't quite figure out what the problem is!! That pretty much took him out of the running for sure last night though!!
I see a couple of you have gone back to the JS7 bike problems again......lol. looked pretty good when he won a couple of weeks ago.....of course he lost so the bike is garbage again... love it. Simple fact...the guys who've been racing outdoors are now better RACERS than him......sorry, the proof is right in front of you! Notice I didn't say better RIDERS ?
Hello paved ovals!
some thoughts:
You cannot blame the the bike for all the crashes. You have to know your own limitations. RD was having some set up issues and he did not push beyond his ability or the bike set up. For his effort he ends up on the box, still healthy, still in the hunt for a title, and able to make some adjustments.
As Dirty Harry said, "A man has to know his limitations" JS is riding over his abilities and that of his bike set up. At least over his bike set up. The others are not.
As for starting a tit for tat block pass war with RV....I would be very very careful CR and anyone else. While RV makes clean passes, do not assume he does not have the ability to rub plastic. It would not be wise to start a plastic war with the best corner man in the business. You would ALWAYS be looking over you shoulder knowing he would be able to put a wheel in at any moment.
AS they say about he "Most interesting man in the world" He may be a love not a fighter, but he is also a fighter, so don't get any ideas.
@local expert is right. Reed is preparing the fans to except him taking out RV for the win! That's the only way he can beat RV. Reed caught RV by going faster through the whoops (taking more chances) and the lappers didn't help. Reeds honda handles better than anything on the track, he is also riding better than he ever has. I'm not a Reed fan because he is such a bad sport but their is no denying he has one of the biggest hearts in motocross. The reason he rides dirty and makes excuses and whines about losing is he wants to win that bad!!! He definitely makes the racing more exciting and we are lucky he is over here but, I still don't like him. To be a fan right now is the best!!! Its almost as fun as going racing and riding with my buddies! We all can agree on one thing, MOTOCROSS RULES
Check out DV observation column. Straight up commentary and insight form a rider/racer.
And yes, he concurs it is not the bike but the set up and not knowing when to push and when to accept.
Good stuff DV.
Am I the only guy who heard Jeff Emig say "James Stewart was saying that he is in love with the way his bike is handling, he has it perfect for this track">>> Did nobody else hear that?? Stewie told Emig his bike set-up was just right, and he loved how it was handling. He just crashed in the whoops, it happens. It got Windham too, and a host of others. Quit making excuses for the guy, he is 26 years old. He can take care of himself, he is a grown man.
Yep.....his mechanic said all James wanted was to lower the air pressure for better traction! Never mind the air pressure.....they should look at installing air bags!
Chad Reed is a rider that races you like you race him. RV and Chad have never rode dirty to each other. Reed is only mad at him self for letting RV catch up and pass him again. Now if it was Stewart the man who rides dirty with Chad things would have been different. It's the old thing do to one what you want to be done to you. Great racing.
"Man who shoot off mouth, must expect to lose face" - Confucious
@open_class, I made the defending comment for Reed when people started sniveling about Reeds comment to Vurb about it being to early to start being aggressive, all he is going to do is start being more aggressive to RV or anybody who is in his way. He has shown he can bang with the best of them. Especially when the title is at stake. "Crossing in front of RV1 before a triple is dirty!" Should he have signaled? Its racing, that was the most silly thing I ever read!!!!
Scrub this:
your comments lose all merit because you are so over the top. You bash Stewart about EVERYTHING that you possibly can which only makes you look like a Begrudged A$shole. For example, above you say that "stewart isn't capable of developing a bike because he doesn't have the IQ"...cmon man you don't have ot like stewart but don't say stupid crap like that because it only makes YOU look like the one with a low IQ. The things you say on here are so friggin stupid that it only makes me more stupider just having read them
BTG,
I think we are aligned on the CR/RV issue. I do not suspect CR to do any take out moves...at least not this early. It would not surprise me if we get to the final few rounds and the points are under 10.
As for the crossing lines on the triple. At a local level it is absolutely deplorable. We all have jobs to go to on Monday.
At their level, fighting for a championship and millions in incentives? It is not smart and it can bite both riders, but they also know it. As RV and others have said, "Chad rides a wide bike". In that race, RV saw what was going on and did the smart thing and backed down. Last night, he felt it and used his corner speed to get it back.
I did not like CR in his younger years, but have become a fan the last few. I am a fan of RV (watched him grow up racing in the NW) and like that he just puts head down, stays away from people, ad makes his passes fast and clean.
@rg807. you sir are stupid. there is nothing wrong with that bike that james is riding. it is james and his decisions on how to set the suspension and just flat out riding like a tard. dont leave stupid posts because like i said before it is james and his decisions on set up and riding that are costing him so stop making excuses
Just watched the race again, and then Reed interview, and I dont think Reed meant that RV1 was being dirty or anything. He was kinda smiling when he said it. I think he was kind of giving some praise really. He was praising RV's aggression. At least that is kinda how I saw it the 2nd time. Lets hoipe the season doesnt get dirty..
@open_class, I also never liked Reed early on, but after he left Brooks and signed with Suzuki, and RC4 retired, I became a fan. Its really hard NOT to like RV1, The kid just flat brings it. Great season!!! @bd200, I just finished watching it again also!! Last night I never thought the pass was dirty, But seeing it again, It looked even Cleaner than last night!!! Great move!!
you all are crazy. Its not the YAmaha's fault! its the lack of racing the Yamaha that is killing JS. Leave the YAmaha alone! (i ride green by the way since 2003)
Go ahead JS sit on the couch another outdoor season! It didn't work for the king and it really isn't working for JS. RC is a true champion! and a true Racer! Racers race.
@ smartypants ----> Well Said!