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Observations: Phoenix

Wednesday, January 18, 2012 | 10:25 AM
Round two of the 2012 Monster Energy Supercross Championship rolled into Fee-nix this weekend at the still-very-nice Chase Field (seriously, if you want to talk about aging well, Chase Field is 13 years old and still feels very new. It’s nice and open, and even has a restaurant in left field.) It’s the Michelle Pfieffer of domes! Contrast that to the only seven years older Georgia Dome in Atlanta or Rogers Center in Toronto. These places take “dark and dank” to a whole new level. So I’m saying good job to Arizona on designing and building a building that still looks awesome.

For round two, there were some juicy subplots that were developing such as:

Judging off his A1 ride, would Ryan Villopoto just lap the field?

Would James Stewart show up with Metzelers on?

What about Cole Seely? Was he for real?

Which heavy hitters would follow Josh Hill, Austin Stroupe, Nick Wey and others at Anaheim and miss the main in Phoenix? Twenty spots open, 549 good riders is not good math for the riders.

When Ryan Dungey went to KTM there was plenty of skepticism and doubt (some from this corner, actually) and more than a few people wondered if it was a smart move. Dungey was betting on an OEM that had never made the podium in the premier supercross class and was going to be riding on a brand new bike. Dungey got a lot of money from KTM, and left the brand that had brought him from B class obscurity to a winner. From the outside, it was going to take more than belief in Roger DeCoster to make this a success. After all, it doesn’t matter how much belief you have in a Belgian legend, if your bike’s not working when you’re 4th gear wide open in the whoops, you’re going to hit the ground.

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Dungey is now tied for the points lead with Ryan Villopoto after his victory in Phoenix.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

Seems like it’s all working pretty well though! In a display of dominance, Dungey grabbed the holeshot and never looked back as he led all twenty laps to take his first win of the season, and KTM’s first win ever in the big bike class. This topped his podium from last week, where he also rode great. Dungey didn’t have the best heat race in Phoenix, so he gave zero indication that he was going to come up so strong later in the main. But with a start, a clear track and his bike working well, Dungey just took off from everyone else. Congrats to Dungey and all the people at KTM including Frankie [Musquin’s mechanic] even though he probably had the least to do with Dungey’s win.

Jake Weimer was one of the surprises last week at Anaheim when he came from the back to end up fifth. I guess we shouldn’t have been that surprised as he qualified fifth at Anaheim and this weekend in Phoenix, he was fifth again. And really, Weimer rides a factory Kawasaki, his teammate and friend is gazillion-time race winner Ryan Villopoto and his trainer is Aldon Baker. By all accounts, Weimer follows the program that RV follows. Rides the same, eats the same, trains the same. Maybe we shouldn’t be that surprised.

Anyways, Weimer won his first-ever 450 heat, and then in the main he rode behind Dungey to finish second. Weimer’s ride was very good and even better for him, after the race he looked like he could do another twenty.

Ryan Villopoto is tied for the points lead with Ryan Dungey after two rounds but he’s got to be a bit worried as he crashed in his heat and main in Phoenix. One of the crashes was his fault, one wasn’t. If you count him going off the track and almost crashing in his heat race last week, that’s three out of the four races he’s been in where he’s had some sort of issue. The Moto Gods just sometimes strike like that, sometime things go your way and sometimes they don’t. It’s a trend that I’m sure RV will want to stop ASAP.

Even with his crash in the sand in Phoenix, the ginger warrior still got up and ripped through the pack to get the third spot. Based on his domination last week and the way he came from almost last to third this week, there’s no doubt that Villopoto has the most speed in the field right now. He just has to harness it, stay out of trouble and he’ll be fine.

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Dean Wilson celebrates his first victory of 2012.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

Last week we were all worried about Pro Circuit’s Dean Wilson, as he had an uncharacteristic ride where he stayed in third all race until a dorky fall later on relegated him to sixth. For a title favorite, it was a bit ominous and worrisome for Wilson and his camp. That’s just not what guys who win titles do! Don’t worry though, the wee Scottish lad we all know so well is back and all right as Wilson led wire to wire for the win in Phoenix.

Afterwards it was refreshing to hear Dean say he might have been a bit over confident last week. Everyone was blowing him up about how good he was, how he had the title in the bag, and the rest. He said that with the hype and buzz of Anaheim 1, he was distracted all day. He believed the hype (no word on if he had t-shirts made or not) and it kind of blew up on him. As I said, it’s refreshing to hear a rider be honest, let his guard down and tell it like it is.

Tyla Rattray is the points leader after two rounds and even though he rides for the Pro Circuit team (I’m starting to think that I could make the night show on one of those bikes. Their effort is that good), that’s a bit of a surprise. Rattray’s not known as a supercross guy but what he is known as is a guy that’s in shape, works hard, goes fast and is consistent. Rattray’s trainer Aldon Baker has the points leader in the 250 class (Rattray) the rider who’s tied for first in 450 (RV) and also Weimer. Quite a roll he’s on but then again, he wouldn’t know because he doesn’t ever look at a roll due to its high fat content.

James Stewart was feeling under the weather and skipped the second timed practice.  (And on another note, can we universally get everyone in the pits together to finally just call the practices by their right number? There are three total practices but only the final two are timed. But still there are three total. Some teams and riders only count the timed practices so when they say, “Second practice, I jumped the quad” it’s actually the third one they are referring to. Some teams say, “My rider sucked in the second practice” and they really mean the second practice. Yeah, the first practice is untimed and really short but can we all admit that it is a real live practice with bikes and jumps? All of us end up doing this “Who’s on first routine” when describing a certain event happening in a certain practice. Got it? Good. So Stewart skipped the third practice and truthfully, even though he was under the weather, I don’t think Stewie likes riding all the practices. He told me on a podcast once that he’s got the track down early, knows what he can and can’t do and many times he just waits it out.

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Can Stewart rebound in L.A. after another sub-par performance at Phoenix.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

This week he was the fastest guy after the first timed practice (second practice, people) before dropping to sixth overall after the third practice ended up being faster. No worries though, Stewie looked pretty good in winning his heat. He quaded some massive jump and was set to do some damage in the main. Or at least he was set until the gate dropped and he got an average start. After blitzing through the pack, and (like the Jeffersons) movin’ on up, he fell in the sand and that was it for his run to the roses. Stewart’s had a couple of rough (for him) races to start his JGR Yamaha career and sits 17 points back after two rounds. I touched base with team manager Jeremy Albrecht this week and he said they’re working on starts because those seem to be Stewie’s issues right now. Maybe he’ll turn up with a hydraulic clutch on his bike like his teammate Davi Millsaps because right now, what he’s doing isn’t working.

Last we had Tiregate and this week, we had everyone reacting to Tiregate. I spoke with JGR manager Jeremy Albrecht and he admitted that Yamaha wasn’t very pumped on the team for what they did and that he sort of thought he could get away with running a Dunlop in the third practice, but admitted that was silly thinking. I took an informal poll of some key guys on other teams and they all pretty much sided with what JGR did. If Pirelli was cool with it (and they were) then JGR did the right thing in trying to keep a star rider happy. As a matter of fact Dan Betley, motorman to factory Honda told me about the time he worked as a mechanic to Jeff Stanton in ’89 and were contracted to run Dunlops. At the time, Bridgestone had a superior rear tire and after testing it, Jeff decided he preferred the ‘Stone over the Dunlop. Much to Dunlop’s displeasure, Stanton ended up running that tire the rest of the nationals with Dunlop stickers.

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Tyla Rattray has taken over control of the red-plate in the Lites class.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

As I was saying, the teams I spoke to would have done the same thing to keep the rider happy and prevent any problems with the team/rider relationship. A lot of them said this as they poured another companies’ oil in their bikes or used different goggles or pistons than the stickers on their bikes indicated they would. This stuff goes on all the time in the pits but it’s usually not as important and as blatant as Tiregate was.

Let’s take a look at the results shall we?

Lites West Overall

1. Dean Wilson Kaw

2. Marvin Musquin KTM

3. Tyla Rattray Kaw

4. Eli Tomac Hon- Tomac’s had the fastest lap both races but he’s got 3-4 finishes in the two mains. He’s got to get off the gate if he wants to win.

5. Cole Seely Hon- Sure Seely got fifth but he was still very fast in Phoenix. He didn’t show anything to make anyone think his win at A1 was a fluke deal.

6. Zach Osborne Yam- Zach has been a surprise early in the year with his rides and I’m just going to say it right here. He will be racing in America next year, we know he can ride outdoors (based on strong GP rides) and now we know he can ride supercross.

7. Jason Anderson Suz- It’s early but so far Anderson looks to be much improved over last year.

8. Nico Izzi Yam

9. Max Anstie Hon

10. Travis Baker Hon- Baker was up there before crashing. Ping was impressed by his ride.

11. Michael Leib Hon- I guess riding a Husky in Europe doesn’t wreck your self-confidence completely.

12. Billy Laninovich Kaw- Great story here unfolding with Bad Billy, he told me he’s going to try and race some east coast on a 450 as well.

13. Bruce Rutherford Hon

14. Vince Friese Hon

15. Teddy Maier Hon- Teddy is probably the highest placing rider after two rounds with the least amount of help. He’s been up in Canada for the last few years but he did get a shot with the TLD Honda team a couple of years ago but broke his leg.

16. Scott Champion Hon

17. Gareth Swanepoel Yam

18. Jean Carlo Ramos Hon- He’s from Brazil, I guess. That’s about all I know.

19. Adam Chatfield Hon

20. Martin Davalos Suz- Fantasy league killer to everyone, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Martin Davalos! Next weekend, no one will pick him and he’ll podium.

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Back-to-back top tens for T-Bake to open the season.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

Supercross Overall

1. Ryan Dungey KTM

2. Jake Weimer Kaw

3. Ryan Villopoto Kaw

4. Kevin Windham Hon- Windham was great in Phoenix and it’s not that big of a surprise really. The track was slippery and took throttle control which is Windham’s specialty. He rode great and was close to his 983rd podium.

5. Chad Reed Hon- There was a section after the third turn where the riders would double, jump on and then off. In practice, Reed tripled in and determined it was slower. There was no need to do that rhythm in the race, but still, it was pretty good jump with not much run.

6. Andrew Short Hon- Shorty’s not where he wants to be right now so that means his Anaheim and Phoenix finishes are pretty good. He looks much better than at any point than he did last year.

7. Trey Canard Hon- Canard was back and a seventh is nothing to be ashamed about.

8. James Stewart Yam

9. Brett Metcalfe Suz- Metty was way better this week than Anaheim even though he only finished two spots better he rode better. The aliens that kidnapped him last week returned him back to earth.

10. Josh Hansen Kaw- 10-10 in two races is pretty good for Hansen -- who most people thought would have wild swings in his results.

11. Ivan Tedesco Kaw- Tedesco got caught up in RV’s crash and this wasn’t where Ivan thought he would be after a couple of races. But he’s shown speed.

12. Kyle Chisholm Kaw- Chiz was not happy with his ride and thought he could have done much better but was fighting it all night long.

13. Davi Millsaps Yam

14. Justin Brayton Hon- Brayton crashed. Thems the breaks.

15. Chris Blose Kaw- Blose rode great in the heat coming from the back to make the main. He’s made both mains while heavy hitters like Broc Tickle, Josh Grant and Nick Wey have missed out. Blose is solid and probably underrated.

16. Mike Alessi Suz

17. Kyle Partridge Kaw

18. Tommy Hahn Hon- Tommy Hahn broke his lower leg and will be out for a while. Bummer deal for both Tommy and his brother Wilbur who’s also hurt.

19. Nick Wey Kaw- Wey got landed on by Albertson and DNF’d.

20. Jimmy Albertson Suz- Albertson landed on Wey and DNF’d.

There are bad nights and then there are nights like the Rockstar/Valli/Star Yamaha team had. Austin Stroupe didn’t qualify after crashing out, Ryan Morais was sick and didn’t make the cut. Ryan Sipes got cleaned out in the 250 LCQ and was another DNQ. At least Nico Izzi ended up eighth and Gareth Swanepoel made the main. Otherwise it was grim over there. Did I ever mention the time that when I worked at KTM in 2000 and we had five riders that all made the motos and didn’t score a single point? Good times!

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It's been a rocky start to the 2012 season for Austin Stroupe.
Photo: Simon Cudby

Some bullet points here folks:

-At Anaheim, Osborne had a practice bike with some goodies on it because his race bike hadn’t made it to America yet. That changed at Phoenix as he’s riding his Euro bike conformed to AMA rules. And the thing looks pretty good as well. As I said on the Racer X Podcast show, good to see Ohlins having a shot at their first podium since Hakan Carlqvist at Carlsbad in ’83.

- A couple of years ago there was a little mini controversy when Kevin Windham started running production forks revalved by Factory Connection (his main sponsor). He was off the gravy train known as works forks and depending on who you talked you, it was either his choice or he was super pissed off about being forced to do it. Well I noticed that he’s got the works stuff back on and when I asked the Honda guys, they said he’s had the works stuff on for a while now. Who knew? Not me.

- Speaking of Windham, his transfer in the opening ceremonies was, once again, pretty sick. After track walk I asked him what he was going to do and after he explained it to me I indicated that I wasn’t that impressed. I mean, he’s done some pretty gnarly stuff and what he was telling me was certainly good but I thought he could do better. Until he walked me over there and I saw the lip and then I realized that I’m an idiot.

-  Brett Michaels was in the house! As were former MLB players Randy Johnson and Jim Edmonds! Two of those guys are to be admired and idolized as American badasses. I’ll let you guess which two.

Thanks for reading, email me at [email protected] if you want to chat about Phoenix or anything else for that matter.

 

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The Conversation

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BillC wrote: 10:43am January 18, 2012

"Ryan Villopoto is tied for the points lead with Ryan Dungey after two rounds but he’s got to be a bit worried"... LMFAO yeah I am sure he is worried!!!

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someguy wrote: 10:53am January 18, 2012

Holy shit, 983 podiums for KDub...that impressive.

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someguy wrote: 10:54am January 18, 2012

RV is an animal, i love wwatching that guy, just looks so intense and the way he rips through the pack after a drop is just awesome to see.

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someguy wrote: 11:03am January 18, 2012

I've got to admit Dungey is definately for real. He just doesnt have the appearance and intensity level that Villipoto does. I'm gonna call it a RV championship again, you just can't count that guy out. Just like that last lap at Steele City. So f'n gnarly.

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wrote: 11:05am January 18, 2012

Really hope ET17 can get his starts figured out when the main event rolls around. ET17 and DW15 battle would be good to see, but will we? would like to see these two get 1 & 2 start at next weeks main event.

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BobTheBuilder wrote: 11:09am January 18, 2012

Whenever Reed has a crash more than any other top rider he is slow to get back up to speed. After he went down in the heat, you knew it was going to be a so-so main for him. Sure enough, he rode around conservatively to 5th to keep himself in the points. It will be interesting to see if he bounces back in LA or if this drags on for a few more races.

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wrote: 11:10am January 18, 2012

i know there is serious $$$ involved, but i feel the riders / racers should be able to choose any tire they feel comfortable with. D-laps this week S-tones next, i never could find a Pirelli that i liked, but thats me! Give the power back to the riders.

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adamact1 wrote: 11:19am January 18, 2012

After RC's terrible jacket last week, I was interested to see what he would wear this week. Did anyone else "Observe" that at the end of the race a Monster claw magically appeared on his chest? It wasn't there at the beginning. I think it is "Monster Gate". Mabey Steve should look into it?

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Red54m wrote: 11:30am January 18, 2012

If anything, I think Villopoto confidence will rise after 2 falls and an off track detour in 4 moto's has resulted in a tie for the points lead.

He of everyone out there has to believe something good can come of something bad!

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drkelly wrote: 11:58am January 18, 2012

Don't you just get the feeling that if Tomac gets a top 5 start, he is going to move into 1st within 5 laps and then gap the S!&t out of the rest of the field. That dude is on it right now.

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drkelly wrote: 11:59am January 18, 2012

Oh yeah, one more thing.

Ryan Villopotto is the fastest man on the planet.

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Claxton wrote: 12:14pm January 18, 2012

If you are a 450 rider not named Viilapoto

YOU GOT PROBLEMS BOY!!!

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sleestak wrote: 12:30pm January 18, 2012

your right red54 about RV's get offs. He fortunately got up very quickly after each one SO FAR ! .........again with the speed he goes he is most definetely going down on several more occasions before seasons end and one can only hope that he gets up just as fast each time. Or it may spell the end of the year for ol' RV almost like it did last year. He had to rely on the other riders DNF'ing in order to get back in the hunt. He also was given the luxury of Reed and Stewie going Cole Trickle and Rowdy Burns on the track last year and taking eachother out.......so just like this year things are inevitable going to happen wether its RV coming through the pack and meeting up with Stewie mid pack or dicing with Dungey up front there are way to many factors to say RV is going to walk away with this thing.........see you at Chavez Ravine...

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Ripdown wrote: 12:37pm January 18, 2012

Can't believe we have to wait until Sunday to watch the race.....talk about a let down. Anyone know if it's available on Justintv or somewhere else?

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KilloMoto wrote: 12:54pm January 18, 2012

One thing I OBSERVED is while watching the TV coverage, when doing the rider interviews after the Heat Races, they took a little more time allowing the riders to compose themselves and also said " hey James, Emig here...." rather than just spouting out questions and talking over one another...well done!!

James "performance" was pretty good, his " results " were not obviously....I think its fair to say (just speculation) that if the roles were reversed between James and Dungey, James would have runaway just as Ryan did...Although Weimer and K-Dub rode a great race, I dont think they have anything for Stewart...2 races down and some bad starts and luck for JS7, hopefully it doenst continue....

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davidl wrote: 1:14pm January 18, 2012

Stewi was riding very well til he went down. I see some caution mixed with really good speed, hope he keeps working on judgement. RV is doing better this year so far and I think and hope he will win it all, but I do not think it will be easy at all or a runaway

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sleestak wrote: 1:16pm January 18, 2012

spot on bobthebuilder......i mentioned this in a previous post.......being a Reed guy it kills me to see him get going again. It's like there is no urgency and then finally when he gets up and going it takes him 3 laps to past the first scrub in the way. anyway pick it up Reedy !

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MF637 wrote: 1:39pm January 18, 2012

Racerx online needs to come out with a second site maybe poserx for all the tards on here. Worry about your own riding and racing, although alot probably dont ride or race. Just watch the pros then move on we''ll see how it works out Jeez.

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KilloMoto wrote: 1:56pm January 18, 2012

I have to give a thumbs up to Nicco Izzi. ..... That dude took a KNARLY shot to the chest and groin when he came up super short on the triple during their timed practice.....I thought for sure he would have a broken rib or wrist.They flew his ass to the hospital up the road in a helicopter after he coughed up some blood and he seemed done for the day, maybe the season....I didnt even realize during the night program he was back racing and even made the main...I noticed when I got home and caught the replay.....so nice job!!!

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sleestak wrote: 1:57pm January 18, 2012

oh i forgot you have to be a novice racer to have an opinion......Your on here mf637 ? Guess that would make you a "poser" aswell !

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Acejas wrote: 2:05pm January 18, 2012

@adamact1- Yeah saw that but it isn't even the beginning. I loved the fact RC was sportin' what looked like a velvet jacket! and to top it off, in the beginning too he was visually taller than emig! You think he was wearing platforms or on a platform? I bet the producers are puposely punking him haha. "Ok RC, now when you talk, wave your hands wildly for more effect then pick your nose to connect with the audience!"

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BillC wrote: 2:09pm January 18, 2012

Sleestak... What do u mean by this "Or it may spell the end of the year for ol' RV almost like it did last year. He had to rely on the other riders DNF'ing in order to get back in the hunt"

.The only bad crash RV had last year was in Jacksonvile and that was not his fault do to speed. Also get back in the hunt...even after that DNS he still had the points lead. so what does get back in the hunt mean.

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topnotch wrote: 2:10pm January 18, 2012

Novice rider? I was thinking more of a TRAIL BOSS.

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q3113q wrote: 2:11pm January 18, 2012

Did anyone else notice that Carmichael was standing on something during the broadcast?

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uneasy_rider wrote: 2:34pm January 18, 2012

I think there is way too much emphasis put on the KTM brand for not getting on the box more than they have. KTM's are and have always been very trick bikes off of the showroom floor. The company has never had the big names on the team to get the results. If McGrath had not been in a downward spiral when he signed on with KTM, it could have happened. Not to belittle Dungey, but if you put RV, CR or even JS on the Katoom, it would make its way to the podium. I am on my 3rd KTM and I think out of the box, they cannot be touched as far as quality components and engineering. They would not have the loyal following otherwise.

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KilloMoto wrote: 2:44pm January 18, 2012

@uneasy.... I dont know personally, but my buddy is a mechanic and used to wrench for some pro riders, so I trust his opinion...His take on KTMs are they are OK out of the box, but quickly loose that new bike feel and turn into a pile with only a few hours......I test rode a KTM 80 back in the day and broke a frame and blew a motor all within 1 hour....

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yamalink wrote: 2:58pm January 18, 2012

Jason Anderson is one of the few backing up the pre-season interviews and public relation/marketing promises. Good job.

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MXLord327 wrote: 3:12pm January 18, 2012

KilloMoto - The KTM's have come a LOOOONNG way since even '05-'06. I never liked their older bikes, but from '09 on, they are fantastic. I'd love a new 250SX - 50hp 2-stroke, 212 lbs!!!

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uneasy_rider wrote: 3:28pm January 18, 2012

I know KTMs have never been in the limelight in SX, but I am on my 3rd one, several friends have them for mainly woods riding, and they are awesome. I don't agree with them turning into a pile? Sounds like some poor maintenance practices, as I don't think any brands bike will qualify as a pile after a few hours, maybe he should look into another line of work if they are falling apart after he works on them.

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KilloMoto wrote: 3:40pm January 18, 2012

@uneasy... no sir, they bring them in as piles and he fixes them...He is a good mechainc, no question there.... One customer had an issue with a frame breaking and after 3 months of waiting for a replacement, the shop he originally bought the bike from (i beleive it was a 350) had to give him a new 450......I know the bikes have come along way and I do have friends who have ridden the bikes with good review....Dungeys ride looks pretty sweet too, I just hope for his sake the Kentucy Turd Machine doens't fall apart on him....

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giftedFromGod wrote: 3:52pm January 18, 2012

DeCoster isn't bi-polar, he's bi-winning, win here, win there, win everywhere!

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KilloMoto wrote: 4:01pm January 18, 2012

BTW ---- RC was standing on a bike stand and Brett Michaels is a DORK!!!....Love the wig dude!!

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wrote: 4:44pm January 18, 2012

Can't believe the producers let that washed up has been Brett make me sick Michaels back on the show and not only back for another SX season but let him sing / write a SX show intro song. Makes me gag so bad i have to fast foward my DVR.... If your going to copy monday night football show style (which SX does not need!) get someone that can sing! Hell i would rather it be Taylor Swift then Brett make me sick Michaels.......Thank god for DVR's.

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Retardcross wrote: 4:48pm January 18, 2012

Taylor Swift is hot.

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wrote: 5:06pm January 18, 2012

i am not a fan of country music, but if Taylor Swift was the entertainment, I would force myself to suffer thru it. no need that DVR magic button.

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uneasy_rider wrote: 6:05pm January 18, 2012

Killomoto, there are exceptions to every rules. For every story about a KTM reject, I am sure someone on here can tell you about another brand with the same issue. I have owned one of damn near every brand out there and the only "lemon" that I ever got was a Husqvarna, and I am sure it was a fluke. I have a 1996 KTM 360EXC which was a one-off, bastard year that alot of people will tell you to steer clear of it. I love it, and it is a 96, so the statement that they have came a long way isn't true as my experience has been. I have owned (2) 250sx models that were as reliable as any other bike that I have ever owned. To say that they don't hold well is unbelievable due to the fact that they are huge in europe and have been in business for a very long time. They have just never made a name for themselves in American SX. Largely because most pro riders are afraid to take that chance on them. I don't doubt that they may not have been as "Race ready" as the big 4, but to say that they are piles is quite a stretch.

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ride2 wrote: 6:08pm January 18, 2012

When you consider all of the off-road & motocross series world wide, doesn't KTM have the most championships? They pretty much dominate everything but American MX & SX.
Hardly a turd of a bike.

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VISTAJIM wrote: 7:17pm January 18, 2012

About Brett Michaels,he is obviously a big fan of SX and he has a shltload of fans.If he likes SX they will too,which is not a bad thing.He is a rocker and it fits the sport.I was backstage at a couple of Poison concerts,I did not talk to him but he was seemed like a nice guy and tours with a bike trailer behind his bus.

country,are you serious?

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tonewall wrote: 7:38pm January 18, 2012

The new sheriff put his boots up on the table ,held out his hand and looked at it ...it was NOT shakin.....I so wish Havoc had some old good Metzlers on there. And as for Brett Micheals sounds like some sour grape eating failed guitarists whining about him to me. Hit the mute button , the show is FREE quit complaining and go practice your guitar. KTM's have been great bikes for a lonnnnng time. The linkless rear works about the same as a good Ohlins twin shock Just fine normally ,just did'nt cut it for SX (ask Macgrath). Look at ANY 2012 ,even the evil (allegedly)Yamaha and they are ALL very high quality. There ALL good now.Just be glad you don't have to deal with old skool stuff or Pingrees Chinese crosser.

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SuperSXFanMan wrote: 11:24pm January 18, 2012

"In a display of dominance" he says. Oh man, that's rich. Dungey and dominance should never be used in the same sentence. Predators dominate. Scavengers, uh, scavenge. They take advantage of opportunities. Smart? Maybe. Dominating? Hardly.

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uneasy_rider wrote: 9:35am January 19, 2012

You win or you are the rest of the field. Period!

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bd200 wrote: 9:52am January 19, 2012

@Killomoto--have to disagree with the KTM's turing into piles. Sounds like guy cant take care of a bike to me. I have literally owned every Japanese brand of bike and still have a Honda 250 4-stroke, my sons. Have a Suzuki 250 4-stroke. And have a Yamaha 125. And I have a KTM 200 2-stroke. And the KTM is easily the most durable and dependable bike I have ever owned. I have sold another 2 Kawisakis and another Suzuki over the last few years, the KTM is my favorite bike I own. Very well built, high quality components, not cheap junk like some parts on any of the Japanese bikes. Very high quality, and very well buiult.

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RCRDDW wrote: 11:32am January 19, 2012

Gee Mathis thanks for insulting the Georgia Dome that is packed out every year and SHOULD get two races....

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jford199 wrote: 12:31am January 21, 2012

Steve, great read, keep up the humor, I laughed out loud it least 3 times.

@acejas, I almost pissed myself with the RC/producers comments, that's hilarious!

@killomoto, how 'bout keeping it under 3 posts per read, and you're completely full of shit with your KTM comment, I am a below average rider who cases jumps regularly in MX, I can't stay on the trail in the woods to save my life, mow down trees at will, and I'm not even going to talk about my bike maintenance skills.. And that f*cker cranks within 3 kicks every time. My dipshitometer tells me you were 150 lbs+ and over 16 yrs old when you cracked your KTM 80 frame and that your a dipshit, pretty sure a lying dipshit. Peace in the Middle East

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