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TROY wrote: 11:49am August 28, 2011

WOW in both classes of the top 6, only 2 American.
That must BURN.

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to Troy wrote: 12:00pm August 28, 2011

yes Troy, really sucks to know that we here in the U.S. have the most coveted championship, the best competition, draw the most dedicated and talented riders from all over the world.

yes, that really sucks, NOT.

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BD25 wrote: 12:19pm August 28, 2011

Darn only two races left, and down to The Two Ryans! Kinda where we all thought it might be. Raw speed vs Big Heart= Great Racing !

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CA207 wrote: 12:29pm August 28, 2011

for all the comments about Suzuki sucking- they only had two bikes on the line and they both podiumed. Good job Team Suzuki!!

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TROY wrote: 12:32pm August 28, 2011

@toTroy:

You obviously didn`t get what I was pointing out you monkey.
Read the comment properly before you write STUPID comments in wich you try to make out like you are smart.

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moto wrote: 12:41pm August 28, 2011

@Troy - Yep, we get to see Rattray, Wilson, Reed, Metcalf, Musquin, Swanepoel, etc racing in our national series... and even Roczen next year.

I imagine that must really burn you. We, on the other hand, enjoy seeing the best riders in the world compete on the same track, regardless of where they are from.

Congrats Metty and Wilson for great rides yesterday!

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jim adams wrote: 12:42pm August 28, 2011

Been a Reed fan for years, it's a shame that he's pretty much out of it but have to admit...Dungey rocks!...Second moto was a hell of a ride!

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USA MX #1 wrote: 12:52pm August 28, 2011

@Troy - Are you that guy that thought Chad Reed had the US 450 Motocrss title all done? Metcalfe has been racing in the U.S. since 2003 and it is racing over here that made him fast. It is not like he just came over from the GPs and won. When a GP rider comes over here and just enters a race and wins it let us know!

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dmc wrote: 12:54pm August 28, 2011

congrats to suzuki for gettin bike runnin.....but how much closer can u cut it....and how many times can dungey come back from these problems dnf s bike quittin.....could have left yesterday with points lead if not for the problems....saw a picture fom the wick reed dungey standing at starting line talkin... maybe about next year bein on same team???

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n2motox wrote: 1:02pm August 28, 2011

I'm a Dungey fan but if RV doesn't have any misfortune in the next 2 races, looks like he has it wrapped. I really don't see Dungey making up this points unless he has some help from RV....bummer.

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penguin_bob wrote: 1:02pm August 28, 2011

I'm a Villopoto fan but I gotta say Dungey rode an amazing race! Villopoto and the rest of field whould be scared cause if Dungey ride like that when he does start the moto there's no catching him!

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dmc wrote: 1:15pm August 28, 2011

i think dungeys got some speed up his sleeve....decoster and carmichael have taught him well when to take risks and when not too best racing is yet to come imo...wonder if kawie rleased 2012 to "spark" villipoto worked for unadilla but southwick although weather affected track conditions poto could have capatilized and dropped the ball...and after race was over he acted like he clinched the championship imo... 4 motos left to go alot could happen..villi bein handed the title hasn t capitilized on it does it come back to haunt him??????

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Dungenous Crab wrote: 1:22pm August 28, 2011

Dungey would be leading the series if not for the two mechanicals.

Why would Team Suzuki's #1 rider be provided with a bike that runs out of gas at one race and does not start at another?

And why, if it is true that Dungey supposedly has one of the top mechanics on the tour, would these things have happened?

It leaves us with questions. There have been no answers from Team Suzuki. But if Villo wins the title, that will be a BIG answer.


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tonewall wrote: 1:22pm August 28, 2011

@troy LOL not only did @to troy miss your point but so did every human on the planet and your retort made even less sense. jesus ...go practice what ever form of sarcasm that was on your sister first. 4 race showdown with a new wild card from the bottom of the deck who wants to win at any cost.. We will see some flat out speed for these last two....can't wait. Count the suzukis wins before you write it off .......everything breaks. Sorry to see Reed basically fall out...went from not liking the guy to really admiring him this year. Mettys first natty overall , that dude should be mega proud.

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Johnmotoman wrote: 1:24pm August 28, 2011

DON'T KNOW HOW DUNGEY AND VILLOPOTO ARE GOING TO SLEEP FOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS!!! EXCITING FOR US TO SEE IT ALL GO DOWN TO THE LAST 2 RACES. HOPE THEY ARE SUPER CLOSE IN POINTS COMING IN TO PALA. WISH REEDY WAS CLOSER IN POINTS. BUMMER!!!

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 1:47pm August 28, 2011

tonewall wrote: "...go practice what ever form of sarcasm that was on your sister first."

haha


And Mike Gosselaar would follow Dungey to his new team if he left Suzuki, right? Thought that's what I heard.

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jim adams wrote: 1:49pm August 28, 2011

OK, how about Dungey 1-1, Barcia 2-2, Villopoto 3-3 @ Steel City.....last race could be incredible.

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jim adams wrote: 1:53pm August 28, 2011

BTW, if Dungey stays or goes elsewhere, he would be crazy not to fight to keep MG with him...probably more experience than any current mechanic in mx.

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freakshow wrote: 1:55pm August 28, 2011

Dunno, the concept of "practicing on your sister" anything, says a lot about the poster making the accusation. It implies that you've at least thought about it, you sicko.

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pizzacorner wrote: 2:20pm August 28, 2011

Has Chad Reed ever won a American Championship when the main comp. stayed healthy? Chad Reed does not EARN Championships...Chad Reed is GIVEN Championships.

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Knobbywan_Kawnobi wrote: 3:22pm August 28, 2011

What was up with that second 450 moto coverage on Speed?? Wasn't that tape delayed?? Seemed like Fro and Wegee had no clue that the race had started!! They were talkin about the parade lap being optional while everyone was fighting for the lead. Reed went down in the first corner and they didn't say a thing!! Weird.

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ric wrote: 4:27pm August 28, 2011

@pizzacorner. On the other hand i think Reed should have earned some championships he did not win too. He probably gave away the outdoor series this year when he made that big crash.(just like carmichael and Stewart did)

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Tc wrote: 4:38pm August 28, 2011

Too bad for Dungey, what a ride though. As for the ZOOK

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Tc wrote: 4:38pm August 28, 2011

Too bad for Dungey, what a ride though. As for the ZOOK

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Holeshot413 wrote: 4:45pm August 28, 2011

Congrats to Metty!
I see Metty at REM on off weekends just continuing to work hard and RACE
Nice guy!!
Much More success to ya! Cant wait to go to Pala!

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tonewall wrote: 4:45pm August 28, 2011

@dungenous ..team suzuki probably just doesn't answer REALLY dumb questions. But heres some really dumb answers... just for you. question 1 they give them unprepared poor handling crappy bikes and only fill them half tank as a prank. It really cracks up everyone when it stops on the last lap of a blistering hot moto your winning or when it dies on the moto 2 starting line in the rain after winning moto1...question 2 he only has a multi time championship winning mechanic (theres no supposedly) ,when he should have had decoster wave a magic voodoo shop rag over it so it will always run perfect forever and ever and ever!!!

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Reggie Smith wrote: 5:35pm August 28, 2011

What a performance by the riders this year.Reed had a crash that would leave most riders done for the day,but he gets up and still has good finish and then Dungeys race this weekend.Coming from half a lap in last place to finsish 7th.Not many stars of motocross past and present could have done that.Good Ride!!!!!!!!!

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DirtyNinja wrote: 5:53pm August 28, 2011

Dungy rode like a lion. I cant help be feel a bit robbed by Suzuki though. I cant help but think there could of been a bit more to the race if RD/RV were lined up as normal. Bummed Reed continues to go backwards and I still feel that JB is a better choice of MXDN than Bagget - Even more so now. Congrats Metty!

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Psychology 101 wrote: 5:57pm August 28, 2011

@ tonewall

If you choose to respond to Dungenous Crab's questions with an inappropriate comment as well as what appears to be an unintellectual attempt at sarcasm, then I must wonder what could have caused this unhealthy degree of hostility in you.

At the least, your fallacious response, by definition, is considered to be illogical. But I am very concerned that you could also possess some inner demons that motivated what seems to be your anti-social (as well as ad hominem) attack.

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Mit12 wrote: 6:07pm August 28, 2011

Great ride by Dungy, smart ride by Villopoto. This championship looks like it will go down to the lase moto. Anyone still that Dungy does not deserve the number 1 plate he earned last year?

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celly wrote: 6:21pm August 28, 2011

Looks like some of these guys are finally getting up to the speed that Stewart had when he was racing the Nationals , not quite there yet , but getting close , I hear he has a new trick up his sleeve , that he will soon start using , Like the Bubba scrub , they will all copy , but it will take them awhile to get it down , Must be pretty cool to reinvet MX , GO JS7

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mxguy94 wrote: 6:29pm August 28, 2011

pizzacorner, Dungey's name works there too.

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byrner99 wrote: 7:12pm August 28, 2011

I have to really question the brutal commentating on the speed tv broadcast. Weege, Fro, you guys have seen more than a few races, what the heck are you talking about for the first lap of the race? Did you not have any time to tape over that garbage? If you guys weren't so busy filling air with whatever seems to fill air at the time you'd have realized there was a race with all kinds of action, drama and excitement going on. Seriously, I like you guys, but that was absolutely brutal.
Bring on the Canadian guys Koster and Travers, they absolutely kill the american coverage and don't miss major things like the start of an epic US National moto.

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Old Timer wrote: 7:33pm August 28, 2011

@ The Crab
I see what you are saying. It is obvious.
I mean, how many of the top riders did not make it to the gate this year, and how many of the top riders ran out of gas this year?
Good questions!!

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mxmom wrote: 8:04pm August 28, 2011

yo dudes how about Dowd !!! get your head out of the sand the Man still got it and got little credit for it same goes for my son who was 3th in first turn 2nd moto with no credits orther than the top screen on tv as his motor was blowning up thru the moto my be the other fast kid from the area should have a bit more coveage too!! SREW THE POINTS get back to REAL RACING

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WFO_UFO wrote: 8:16pm August 28, 2011

What irks me about the announcing, is that they babble on about something else for the first 2 laps, while you are sitting there wondering who is battling for the lead. Then finally, the "position" ribbon scrolls across the top of the screen, so you know what's actually going on. The announcers are most needed in those first few laps, and they rarely deliver the goods.

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\m/ mkdp \m/ wrote: 8:57pm August 28, 2011

I know throwing stones behind the protective cover of a keyboard is easy here, not to mention the blinding loyalty to any one brand or rider but...

Anyone bother to think how amazing it was that Dungey's team actually gave him a chance. Yeah it sucks they had bike problems, and yeah it seems like they've lost a step since Decoster left, but instead of doggin' on RD's team, how about giving them props for troubleshooting and then fixing the bike giving they're rider a fighting chance. Factory teams aren't exempt from UNFORESEEN problems.

Same thing happened to Short last year and Honda couldn't get him up an running.

Just saying, instead of hating on the team how about giving them some credit.

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Mattighofen Trunkenpolz Kraftfahrzeuge wrote: 8:58pm August 28, 2011

If Dungey wants a bike that starts and does not run out of gas, then he needs to race KTMs.

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CA207 wrote: 9:19pm August 28, 2011

MTK-that's a pretty brave statement. All bikes are prone to problems. Wasn't one of the KTM riders having problems ALL day long at the last MXofN ? it was either Musquin, or Caroili. I can't remember...and Short had a DNF this year on his 350 caused by a mechanical. Think before you type.

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Jimmy the Geek wrote: 9:23pm August 28, 2011

@ \m/ mkdp \m/
You just gave us your own version of "throwing stones behind the protective cover of a keyboard" which makes you a hypocrite. Perhaps you should do your homework before you attempt to make a point.


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Mattighofen Trunkenpolz Kraftfahrzeuge wrote: 9:35pm August 28, 2011

@CA207
Cairoli is leading MX1 and Roczen is leading MX2.
Got KTM?
And you imply that I should think before I type?

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you bet wrote: 10:27pm August 28, 2011

^^^........don't you have your name backwards? I met Trunkenpolz in 1977. Are they all still alive?

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WFO_UFO wrote: 11:23pm August 28, 2011

Man- Dungey looks really pis ssed in that shot. It's amazing he was able to accomplish so much, considering how mad he must have been. Talk about a mental regroup. A champions effort- but now he has to get through Villopoto these next four moto's to seal the deal. It's going to be a great four motos. Too bad for Reed, I hate to see him go out that way.

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WFO_UFO wrote: 11:26pm August 28, 2011

Oops- I put an apostrophe where there shant be one. But if you pay me, I'll try harder, I promise.

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Byrdinc wrote: 12:00am August 29, 2011

Wow so much crap talk at Suzuki. Forget so soon how many Hondas broke in moto one!

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tonewall wrote: 12:51am August 29, 2011

Didn't Metcalfs honda run out of gas at southwick last year....didn't reed AND barcias hondas BLOW up sat. Did'nt Shortys 3fity have some problems and failures...seems like roger would have run out on the track and fixed it like he used to do at suzuki right....? i kid! @Psycoair 101(old timer)lol , your response was so impressive and all those big words..wow. Maybe everybody should run Yamahas then all you need is to have your bull riding insurance paid up.I think even normally even tempered Dungey has had it with people baggin on his team and mechanic. Its ridiculous...GO RV2 set the bars and pegs to holeshot/berm explode and finish it up.

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CA207 wrote: 1:20am August 29, 2011

I'll believe it when I see it- A KTM winning a title here. I think it'll happen eventually, but people talk like they're magic and can't possible have a problem. I don't think they'd even hit the podium yet in the big class. Go Dungey!!

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Mattighofen Trunkenpolz Kraftfahrzeuge wrote: 2:26am August 29, 2011

@ CA207 ... KTM will win more than one title in the USA. But they do need to have DeCoster put together a stronger team in the states. Perhaps KTM will sign Dungey?

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oldfartsclub wrote: 4:28am August 29, 2011

celly wrote: blah blah blah james stewart blah blah blah.

Serious question. Who´s this james stewart guy? You meant melcome stewart surely, or are you referring to his dad who might have raced back in your time? He looks a bit too fat to have been a good MX rider, but you never know.

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Is John D the GOAT wrote: 4:38am August 29, 2011

I wish John Dowd would give up. He´s giving AMA a bad name. At 46 he´s still running top 10? What does that say about the standard of riding in the US of A.
Man, it sucks to hear these foreigners rip off our series just for John Dowd to prove them right.
Think of your country John. Pack it up.

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CA207 wrote: 5:36am August 29, 2011

I think it's a done deal with Dungey going to KTM, I just hope he doesn't sacrifice himself or his career like so many before him. Somebody's gotta break through, hope it's him. I'm a life long Suzuki fan, I don't even like Stewart, but I hope he signs, keeps it on 2, and wins a title to make the 4th rider in 7 years to win on the "same" bike. Alessi coulda won on it too.

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bucky394 wrote: 8:24am August 29, 2011

last week and weeks before, we had mike. This week we have troy. not too hard too see that mike=troy. can really only be one-one of a kind hater like that. Too bad he can't come down to earth. I, personally would welcome comments from around the world, as long as they can be accurate and civil. And like many others, I am glad ALL this talent is here for us to watch. Whoever wins, let's just keep it exciting!!

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organdoner wrote: 10:41am August 29, 2011

all this talk about the junk zooks??? what about the two factory hondas that didn't last 12 minutes???????????????? Im a huge poto fan, now i'm into dungey and his heart n commitment. He would have swept that moto. still hope he doesn't ruin his career on a KTM. doubt goose will leave zook. RC helped him make his mark there

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rhawk wrote: 1:34pm August 29, 2011

There was a time that if your bike didn't fire at the starting line the start was held for 2 minutes, is that still a rule or am I still living in the 70's? If that is a rule why wouldn't Dungey's team mate not have an issue and take the 2 min's.

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jd232 wrote: 9:32pm August 29, 2011

Second 450 moto on Speed. Were Weege and Fro watching the same race? There talking about the parade lap as Reed's going down in the first corner!
WTF? And this went on for the entire first lap. What happened Weege?
Explain yourself. We demand an expanation!

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jd232 wrote: 9:43pm August 29, 2011

Nevermind Weege. Just read your expanation. Why don't you guys try doing a race from the announcers tower? Might be interesting.

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bones22 wrote: 10:46pm August 29, 2011

I have a theory that KTM slipped Goose some big $$ to sabotage the bike this year so that Dungey gets mad at Suzuki and wants to go KTM. I imagine it something like this...
"So Mike.....What's your championship bonus at Suzuki, ok double it, and if Ryan's bike happens to DNF a few moto's....you know maybe not quite enough gas here, a thrown chain there....then it's all yours, and you'll have a job here the next 2 seasons"

obviously I'm kidding, but it seems very uncharacteristic for Goose to have so many bike issues.

And wasn't it just last year that I saw people stating that the only reason Ryan, and Chad the year before were winning was because they were on the best bike...now a couple issues (2 of which were a fluke...a thrown chain and evaporating fuel at TX) and Suzuki sucks...lol good one

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