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Bench Racing Ammo: Championship Scenarios

Friday, May 6, 2011 | 10:20 AM
undefinedIn a season as competitive as this, everyone has become well versed in the AMA Supercross point’s structure. In case you’re not, here it is:



1
.) 25

2.) 22

3.) 20

4.) 18

5.) 16

6.) 15

7.) 14

8.) 13

9.) 12

10.) 11

11.) 10

12.) 9

13.) 8

14.) 7

15.) 6

16.) 5

17.) 4

18.) 3

19.) 2

20.) 1

Championship Tie Breakers: Most wins, followed by most seconds, most thirds, etc.

We know this well, as this season’s chase has witnessed 20ths and 7ths and 9ths and 18ths that somehow became significant factors in the standings. At Jacksonville, for example, James Stewart took 18th, but made up three points on Villopoto while being carried out of the stadium on a backboard!

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Reed needs a win in Vegas and some help from RV to capture his third career SX title.
Photo: Matt Pavelek

So we know the point structure. With it we know the keys to this weekend’s Monster Energy Supercross Championship finale in Las Vegas.

If Chad Reed, second in points, wins the race and scores the maximum 25 points, he needs Ryan Villopoto to finish sixth or worse to win the title. If Villopoto finishes fifth and Reed wins, they tie in points and Villopoto wins the championship on a tie-breaker (most wins, and he would have six of those compared to Reed’s two).

Ryan Dungey is 12 points back. To win the title, he would of course benefit greatly from winning the race, and would then need Villopoto to finish ninth or worse (he would tie Villopoto if Villopoto finished eighth, and then lose that race-win tie breaker). Dungey’s okay if Reed finishes the race in second, because they would tie in points, and Dungey would get the nod because he would then have two wins to Reed’s one.

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Dungey needs a win and help from both Reed and RV. A pretty tall order.
Photo: Matt Pavelek

But these are just the basics, and in this crazy season, it could get more complicated. For example if Reed finishes second in the race, he would need Villopoto to finish ninth. If Villopoto is struck by lighting (in the same place, twice) and doesn’t make the main event, Reed would then need an 11th-place finish to overcome Villopoto in the standings. But he would still need to out-point Dungey, who is only three markers behind him.

And James Stewart does still hold a mathematical shot at the championship at just 23 points down. Stewart, though, must win the race and hope Villopoto finishes 20th or worse (if they tied in points, the both have six wins, but Villopoto would then edge Stewart with three second-place finishes to Stewart’s two). And even if disaster struck for Villopoto, Stewart would need similar misfortune for Reed and Dungey. Put a dollar bet on this and you could make more money than Stewart if he won the championship.

The East Lites math is easy. Justin Barcia needs to finish 15th or better if Dean Wilson wins the race (both have three wins on the season so Wilson could win a tie-breaker with win number four). If Barcia fails to make the main, Wilson would need to finish second or first in the race to win the title.

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Barcia needs to finish inside the top-15 to capture his first career SX Lites title.
Photo: Simon Cudby

In Lites West, Broc Tickle holds just a two-point lead over Eli Tomac. It’s very much a “whoever beats who in the race wins the title” scenario. If either rider wins the race, he wins the title. If either rider finishes ahead of the other rider within the top five, he wins the title. Tomac may be two points back, but he holds a key tie breaker with two wins against Tickle’s one, so if he finishes second and Tickle takes third, they tie, and Tomac wins the tie breaker. Tickle’s points advantage comes into play if they finish outside of the top five—for example, if they finish sixth and seventh. In that case Tomac would only make up one point and finish second in the standings.

Josh Hansen sits 14 points behind Tickle, and if he wins the race, would need Tickle to finish 10th and Tomac to finish 8th to win the crown. A tie for the points lead works for Hansen, who has three wins already and holds the tiebreaker. Oddly enough, no one understands that tie-breaker rule better than Hansen, who actually tied in points with Grant Langston for the 2005 SX Lites East Championship, and lost it on a tie-breaker!

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prmxracer wrote: 10:27am May 6, 2011

Vegas is going to be good no matter what the end result is!

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motocynic wrote: 10:45am May 6, 2011

Josh Hansen tied Grant Langston in points for the 2005 sx lites east championship. 2005. What is this guy still doing in the lites class? The lites class intended to be a stepping stone to the 450's, not a class that you spend your entire career in.

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Now Hiring at BK Josh....? wrote: 11:02am May 6, 2011

I agree motocynic...just doesn't seem right. The AMA needs a steadfast rule to stop this BS. Time for Sipes to move up too...even though I can appreciate Sipe's character...Hansen...dunno about that guy...and I was happy to see his bs passing moves blow up in his face at the last round...the fool took himself out of the championship...again.

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Retardcross wrote: 11:41am May 6, 2011

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I hate how the 125 (250F) class is now a "development" class to move up. If both classes were treated as premier classes I think it would be awesome. Some people are better on a 250F, so why not have a ridiculously stacked 125 class as well? There's positives and negatives to both sides of the argument. I personally would prefer to watch the best riders for each class ride that respective class.

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mx_579 wrote: 11:53am May 6, 2011

@Retardcross...I'm pretty sure the answer is financial liability.

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joemotocross589 wrote: 11:55am May 6, 2011

Gee, I dunno, the euro's used to only come and race the "125's", after a few world championships over there. I think supercross should have a "run what ya brung" class...the real motocross rules should only apply OUTSIDE where the real racing is. Then bring back the open class. thanks. no charge.

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Tom C wrote: 12:42pm May 6, 2011

Can't wait for tomorrow night!!
Gonna be great no matter who wins....what an incredible season and great racing in all classes.
As far as the "career" 125/250f argument goes, it is still a Pro class and they have the point-out rule already. It's kind of hard to call Hanson and Sipes or anyone over 25 years old or whatever a sandbagger when the kids can beat them anyway! I think it sets the bar high and keeps the class as competitive as possible.
Should the FIM/AMA set a max age for SX lites and a minimum age for SX riders?

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Rod aka "motocynic" wrote: 12:53pm May 6, 2011

There is a lot of discussion about whether the premier class riders should be on 250's or 450's. In the 60's and 70's it was considered to be more prestigious to race in the 500 class because it took more strength, endurance and technique to go fast on the bigger more powerful bikes. The 500 class was the "formula one" of motocross. The same is true today. That is why the premier class will always be raced on 450's.

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bd200 wrote: 1:57pm May 6, 2011

Retardcross, I see your logic, but the class wouldnt get stacked, you would have one or two guys stay down, and be blowing everyone else away. If not in every race, they would win every title.

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Pao wrote: 12:07am May 7, 2011

The best part is " LIVE ON SPEED"

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