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450 Words: Salt Lake City

Tuesday, May 3, 2011 | 3:40 PM

undefinedThe Salt Lake City Supercross has come and gone, and the 450 title chase has somewhat sorted itself out with one race remaining. James Stewart crashed while leading and that was it for his title hopes, he’s almost mathematically eliminated. Out front with a nine point lead is Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed is in second and Ryan Dungey is third. These three riders all have a shot at the title but unless there is a complete disaster for RV, the championship will be his this Saturday night.

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Stewart's title chances were dashed after an early crash at Salt Lake City.
Photo: Matt Pavelek

This race was a snapshot of what we’ve seen all year. Stewart stepping out to the lead, showing blazing speed in the whoops before going down twice in forty feet. Without the supercross crown and Stewart hinting on Twitter that he’s not doing the outdoors, it appears that we can judge Stewart’s season as a failure despite the five wins.

We saw Villopoto charge hard and he was even catching the seven a bit while pulling away from Reed and Dungey. RV set the fastest time of the night while inching toward Stewart and it would have been a great race to the end had James stayed up. Villopoto’s ride was clutch, his six wins tops the series and if he wins this thing- there isn’t anyone who can say he wasn’t the fastest and most consistent guy week in and week out.

As far as Reed, he didn’t have the speed of Stewie or Villopoto (but he did have a factory Honda) but he hung in there tough, found some lines and learned as he went along. Then he made a push at the end and showed some speed, finishing second by less than a second. No matter how he did, it was a good race for the two-two and it’s been a good season for the Aussie.

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Defending champion Ryan Dungey is still alive but will need help from RV and Reed if he wants to repeat.
Photo: Matt Pavelek

The defending champion Dungey, right there at the start, helplessly watching as the three riders in front of him just slowly pulled away. Yes he’s better than anyone else in the class but just like all year, he didn’t have that extra 2 percent that the other three had. It has to be frustrating for Dungey, but he’s young and his superb 2010 season set the bar real high. Take away his titles last year and we’re all talking about how good he’s doing in his second year in the class.

After those four, it was KTM’s Andrew Short and GEICO Honda’s Kevin Windham in fourth and fifth and they are the leaders of the next group in the points as well.

It is funny that after all the nuttiness that has gone on this year, the penultimate round of the series gave us everything we needed to see in twenty laps.

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The Conversation

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John Crash wrote: 3:53pm May 3, 2011

Go Reed. Ryan will crack with the pressure. He has never finished a season on a 450

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Patridesred wrote: 3:54pm May 3, 2011

Millsaps was 5th

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Patridesred wrote: 3:55pm May 3, 2011

John your dumb

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tomktm wrote: 4:01pm May 3, 2011

Can we finally put to rest the "fastest man on the planet" crap now? I got a new one, how about "fastest man on the planet who would rather put more time into his TV show" ? That seems to work with Booba.

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B A 117 wrote: 4:05pm May 3, 2011

Dungy is best in the class W t f ?

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Rick Melon wrote: 4:12pm May 3, 2011

@John Cash - Ummmm, who cracked or couldnt perform under pressure (aside from James) in Salt Lake?.....Reed did obviously...He had RV behind him and failed to capatalize and RV passed him quite easily ..... Reed had nothing for RV he knows that. RV has had a few seasons with injury, true, but he is faster stronger and no time like the present to turn things around.

This "SX only" nonsense it LAME..... Before the MC days, nobody ever thought of only racing SX only unless they had an injury or something.....I would really like to see James out there in the outdoors...Outdoors is his strenght and I want to see he and RV go at it...otherwise it will be an RV show with a few CP377 moments....

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Ryder wrote: 4:14pm May 3, 2011

It said hes better than the rest of the class(other than 2,7,22).... Not everyone in his class.

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B A 117 wrote: 4:14pm May 3, 2011

Fastest man on planet was getting run down again ! If bubba does not run outdoors he needs to hang it up. Real MOTOCROSS racers no that's where it separates the men from the boys. Go do your GAY ass tv show with Sorby the other looser. C - YA. Bubba. ViLLOPOTO is the man !

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Nostradamus wrote: 4:15pm May 3, 2011

Predictions:
Lites Champions:
East: Barcia
West: Tickle

SX Champion: Villopoto
Race Finish:
Stewart
Reed
Villopoto

As being Nostradamus, you can place your bets on the above!

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JP wrote: 4:16pm May 3, 2011

Your a genious John.. You must be a bad ass and respected memeber of your local race community. Genious, pure genious lol

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yzfsean wrote: 4:17pm May 3, 2011

Dungy is best in the class W t f ?... I will give Matthes the benefit of the doubt that he meant everyone lese except RV,CR and JS. If not he must judge the best by a different standard than anyone else watching. Maybe he thinks he is the best because he is constantly giving thanks to the man above and that makes him a better man. Who knows?
If there is one thing that RV will not do, it is crack under pressure. I would actually like to see CR win this thing, but i don't see much chance of that happening.

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Metal Moto Head wrote: 4:19pm May 3, 2011

BA 117 - I think Steve means Dungey is the better than anyone else behind Villopoto, James and Reed.....the AKA...second 5

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B A 117 wrote: 4:19pm May 3, 2011

Ryder. Your right I was reading to fast , saw that after comment

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Redbeard65 wrote: 4:25pm May 3, 2011

Hasn't Barcia all but wrapped up the title?..He needs to finish like 15th or better?

Not surprised by Dungey's performance....he is better than "the rest" but still has a way to go .....last couple weeks he hasnt been a factor and other folks bad luck is his only hope...He wont beat them, but they as we have seen can beat themselves....on the track that is perverts!!... HAHA!

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vego wrote: 4:25pm May 3, 2011

Predictions: JS has one more giant ragdoll in him, and ends up in the first row babbling about taco bell. RV misses the main for the second time this season! Dungey's pipe falls off and he jumps on the back of reeds bike and they race to victory handing the title to Reed- but he gets disqualified for 'getting help' from dungey- Alessi wins the race and somehow the title.

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D10UUG wrote: 4:32pm May 3, 2011

WTF is a CLUTCH ride, this term has been used in loads of articles this week. Get a grip Racer X it aint cool ........

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Bubba Race the Outdoors Will Ya' wrote: 4:36pm May 3, 2011

James had mentioned that Aldon didnt have him ride the motorcycle enough.....Well, he needs to race the outdoors and get that seat time in If he want a shot at the 2012 SX Title...RV and the boys (I assume Reed is retitiring after Saturday night) will have a leg up after racing the outdoors all summer and having that seat time.....Bubba, race the outdoors and have Bubbas World take the summer off!!

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Argentina MX wrote: 4:41pm May 3, 2011

It seams to be like Reed say it on Racer X. That the championship have the #7 printed on it before even start. Now that 16 races are gone we see what a real champion have to do. More training and less beach time. I'm wonder what the Sn Manuel Indians think of this season. Despite haters I think that Reed show he's still one of the greeter racers of all times. RV2 did what have to do, be consistent. RD is missing R. Decoster. But please somebody from the media have to came out and say stop sowing pictures of #7 like he's the champion. Even on this article there is a picture of. Thanks for this space Racer X

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bd200 wrote: 4:48pm May 3, 2011

Stewie not racing the outdoors?? While that sucks, its not a big surprise. And I never heard him say that Aldon didnt have him ride the bike enough in his training, but if thats the case, ride it on your own time when your training is over. It sure worked for RC, and it seems to be working for RV2. And were did you hear that Reed is retiring Bubba Race, is it just rumors??

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Dennis wrote: 4:50pm May 3, 2011

Go Reed. I hope he Wins it on a privte bike

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bd200 wrote: 4:50pm May 3, 2011

D10UUG, what is a clutch ride?? Really?? Its like a clutch hit in baseball, its when you need a win really badlyy for a title and you get it. RV was "clutch" at SLC. He needed that win and got it.

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Mechanix 1981 wrote: 4:54pm May 3, 2011

bd200, I've been watching your bantering about JS7 isn't crashing in the lead throwing it away? Where as getting passed or caught or not even up front getting beat? What is the difference? You are really confusing me!

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keepinitreal wrote: 4:59pm May 3, 2011

bd200 is a sorry excuse for SX/MX fan he has no facts to back up any of his mouth diarhea. Even Ricky Carmichael praises and respects JS7's talent but this guy just keeps running his mouth. James lost the title on his own this year, he crashed lots, he threw it away. But the series was snooze without him last year and 5 race wins in this field of talent is pretty damn good I would say!

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BD wrote: 5:01pm May 3, 2011

I am a huge JS fan but if all that talk last year about wanting to race the outdoors, and working so hard to get back, wanting to race the des nations and him not doing it this year when he owns the team and just came off a well let's face it "failure" of a season he needs to race outdoors! Very bad move JS if u take the summer off!

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Acejas wrote: 5:03pm May 3, 2011

Where's the hint of James not doing outdoors??? I don't even see any mention of outdoors on James' Twitter. Anywho, it would be very dumb if it's true and he takes another "break". He's def not burnt out this time, he hasn't even gotten started. 2 years and no titles? How can he rest on that after his lofty standards he set early in his career? All through this season, he's shown heart. If he doesn't keep riding, all that heart was wasted.

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wrote: 5:05pm May 3, 2011

I have no time for these sx only guys. They are not the real motocross heroes and never will be! Go away stewart, your act is tired. RV rules indoors and out!!!!!

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wrote: 5:08pm May 3, 2011

I will make one exception for mcgrath though.Stewart is not in the same hemisphere as mc.

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keepinitreal wrote: 5:11pm May 3, 2011

I don't know where these people get their attendance stats but their has been tons of empty seats this year. Our sport is hurting and that's why these guys don't want to run the outdoors because there is less money in it than Supercross. These guys today are not the warriors of yesteryears like Decosters and Hannahs who would run 3 classes in the same day. These guys are not going to pay a full crew, travel expenses, parts etc. for free. Including Chad Reed if anyone listened to the show last nite they would know this. Why go broke for pride? These guys today are racing for $$ as much as pride and if there's no money why race??

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Ken Elliott wrote: 5:32pm May 3, 2011

>> "Villopoto’s ride was clutch,...."

Er... what? I've got a clutch in the engine, and a clutch lever on the bars. I see RacerX using that word like you bought a barrel full. Must be some kind of slang...;D

Hey, while we're on it, a "hole shot" is leading BEFORE the first turn, not after. And it's pronounced "Moe Toe Cross", not "Motor Cross". Geeze... you kids....

Gotta run and yell at kids to get off my lawn...;D

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Open Class wrote: 5:48pm May 3, 2011

A quick re-post with a short addition:

There seems to be quite the polar view points with respect to JS. Interestingly everyone who does not care for him is branded racist.

That just demonstrates the narrow mindedness of a lot of folks.

I do not condone the clearly racist remarks and wish that this type of ignorance could just go away. That said, I have openly made it clear that I am not a fan of JS.

I believe he does not respect the sport or the fellow riders in it. He seems to believe he is bigger than the sport and I do not believe ANY rider is or ever should be. He has never admitted to making a bad judgment or apologized to the many people he has run into. He makes excuses for his poor judgment or just pretends it did not happen.

He complains about the grueling schedule after 2-3 years on the big bikes?? Seriously? What a disrespect to the many racers who have put 5, 7, 10+ years in doing what they love. And you can bet JS makes a lot more $$$ than any of the rest.

He does not display the kind of moral fiber or character that I would put my support behind. Period!

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ADDITION: he also has no respect for the fans, or heart for sport. Got beat at SX and now he tweeting that he is out for the outdoors. Did he not say he was in for at least the first few? Again, it is about him and not the sport, the fans, the sponsors. Nope, not the kind of guy I can get behind.
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It is to bad because he has so many other great things going. If he would have taken a page of one or two of the greats, raced hard and to the finish, thank the other competitors and credit them, own his mistakes, and ride like he knows how...who knows how how big a fan fav he could be? Maybe even get close to a KW level of fan base

But he is where he is, and he needs to own that as well.

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BillC wrote: 6:04pm May 3, 2011

bd200 JS Did say Aldon does not use riding enough for him. Some Guys like/need to ride lots to feel right. Everyone is Dif that way. Just because it worked for RC does not mean it will work for everyone.

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wrote: 6:28pm May 3, 2011

Excellent post 'open class'. Well said!

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Go Getter wrote: 6:29pm May 3, 2011

While the top guys could appear to be racing more for the money, the top guys have MASSIVE ego issues. Pride is associated with ego and therefore pride does play a part. The top guys realized their dreams and became successful in the big time. Think about it.

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DirtNapper wrote: 6:35pm May 3, 2011

@OpenClass 100% true.

I can't wait till his dumb azz is retired. Then the hard working, truly deserving top riders (RV, RD, TC) who appreciate the sport, their sponsors, and fans will represent MX.

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bd200 wrote: 6:46pm May 3, 2011

@BillC, I wasnt saying anything bad, just saying if he needed to get bike time, then get on the bike. Thats all.

Open Class, I agree 100%. And you can see by reading other posts above, how his fans also have no class and constantly convey thier ignorance by attacking people personally just because they arent fans of THIER rider. Childish..

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mx101 wrote: 6:53pm May 3, 2011

stewarts season a failure, OH YEA! JUST GO TO JAIL YOU SPOILED SELF CENTERED P.O.S.

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Monster wrote: 6:55pm May 3, 2011

I too dont care for JS, and I am not a racist. I think that he is a whiner, and a quitter. Remember last year, he showed up to race a few Nats, thinking that he deserved a spot on the MXdN team after being out all year, and then whined when he didnt get it. "Panic Mode" Stewart is done. I wont go so far as to say that he cant ever win another SX title, but I think that its highly unlikely. And, if and when RV claims the SX crown, no one can make the excuse of "so and so wasnt there" or "if so and so had stayed up" (this is where the Stewart fans usually come in). He raced the best, and beat the best that this sport has to offer. As RC would say "scoreboard"

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Mechanix1981 wrote: 6:58pm May 3, 2011

If anyone does watch Bubba's World, Johnny O' Mara who knows a thing or two about fitness, being a multi time Mountain bike champion...He feels that the guy with the most seat time will win titles. I think that is what has caused James to lose some of his edge. Too many distractions between Brooks leaving, trying to assemble a new team, a TV show, losing his trainer, the injury. James needs to just go back to riding, it's not like he's lacking speed or fitness but definately lost some sharpness. He's always crashed through his career doing amazing things but this year is just unexplainable! So brilliant at times, So disappointing at others!

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jlink wrote: 7:28pm May 3, 2011

Well It seems this year is just like last. Dungey won because his comp couldn't keep themselves injury free, and again this year the fastest man by far put himself out of the series. I would have like to see who is the next fastest guy to stewart. Who do you think it is? It's pretty hard to tell. I'm so disappointed that we won't get to see anyone challenge stewart speed wise. It was very far and few between when he actually got to see anyone challenge stewart. No one can challenge him speed wise, or any where on the track. The only one to beat him is himself. now reed has two titles without RC or JS in the series, and now RV wins without a healthy stewart in the field, and still unable to beat him straight up. We all know who is faster, lucky for RV his DQ and lackluster speed and results will be enough to pull of the most inconsistent title run in the history of the sport. Stewart is impossible to beat, and year after year people have to eat crow, saying how others have matched his speed. It's not until you invent a new way of riding and staying lower and faster that you can even entertain that thought. Speedwise the field has a loong way to go to catch Stewart. They will have to, as they have done their entire careers, rely on a mistake. Too bad no one can find any pure speed and can only win by seeing James crash out. Must be a long career of going just slow enough for everyone else.

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abgz11 wrote: 7:29pm May 3, 2011

I now understand the "clutch" ride. Must be word of the month though. Now please tell me what this whiskey throttle thing is. 30 years of mx and that is a new one on me. Oh yeah go Chad

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SimonHolmans wrote: 7:31pm May 3, 2011

I would always rather that the slower guy wins the series, that is what is right.

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flat601 wrote: 7:34pm May 3, 2011

I think I remember a time when Villo beat Stewart straight up.. no wait, that never has happened. Villopoto, hands down, no questions asked, the man who deserves it. I mean how many people can not qualify and still win a title?

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David Langford wrote: 8:41pm May 3, 2011

This year is the clearest example of three riders being far more dominate than JS we have ever seen, RC did beat him in 05, and 06, but now RV,CR,and RD have really dominated him. They have all had races where it wasn't directly their fault they were taken out and they are all still well ahead of JS. On the other hand All of JS bad rides were clearly self induced. If you take out the worst race for each, JS looks even worse. The missing factor is JS is eating dirt more than ever in his carrier where most champs hit it less as they mature. This post should get some kids talking dirty on here for two reasons, its true, and their hero is floundering.
I hope JS gets his act together and doesnt get hurt or maim someone else.

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gytr wrote: 9:06pm May 3, 2011

Jlink said it best ...no need for any other posts ...

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keepinitreal wrote: 9:07pm May 3, 2011

Hey remember 1997 when McGrath only won 2 rounds and lost the title? He came back to win 3 more titles beating Windham in his prime, David Vullemin in his prime, Jeff Emig, Mike Larocco, Doug Henry...you get the point! I would hardly talk as if JS is hanging up the boots and it will be the RV show from here on out. It was after all supposed to be the RD show this year! Ryan's a great rider but he didn't quite decimate the competition this year. 5 wins for Stewart is pretty darn good for a awful season. Just sayin, hard to argue that but I'm sure a few of you will.

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mx501 wrote: 9:33pm May 3, 2011

ITS CLEAR STEWART CANT GO AS FAST AS AT LEAST 3 GUYS FOR THIS SEASON WITHOUT CRASHING.' RESULTS' BTW JS HAD 3 YEARS TO BEAT THE GOAT FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP AND NEVER DID. JAMES STEWART IS THE B.O.A.T. B#%^CH OF ALL TIME!!!

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Moto67 wrote: 9:45pm May 3, 2011

I'm sick of reading how James Stewart is this & that..who cares? Want to talk about someone throwing it away this year? We should be talking about Dungey. He rode like a nervous novice against the big guns. Where's his fight? Where's his aggresiveness? Will someone PLEASE tell me why he doesn't have 4 or 5 wins this year? Carnard got 3! Makes me wonder how he would have finished last year if the other 3 guys were in town......

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j wrote: 10:14pm May 3, 2011

Dungy and RV were at Glen Helen last week practing and RV was 5 seconds a lap faster! Get ready for the outdoors Boys and Girls. RV storm is brewing!

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Beef Stewart wrote: 10:24pm May 3, 2011

BIN TELLIN U FOOZ AWL YEER ... IFFIN STEWIE BEEZ ON HIZ GAME DEN ITZ OVA

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Big Red wrote: 11:01pm May 3, 2011

Leave it to keepinitrealchildish for attacking a non-Stewietard for no reason again. What a chump. Grow up please and move out of your moms basement. And DV12 was not in his prime during the MC years genious. If you remember, he was leading the supercross title chase over RC when he broke his collarbone during a photo shoot for Donn Meada. MC was a non factor by then.

If a rider doesnt want to run the outdoors, fine. Who cares. The sport has been fine without Stewie, and it will be just fine without him now.

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Jack Daniels wrote: 11:10pm May 3, 2011

Whiskey Throttle: An unintentional twisting of the throttle caused by being out of control and having your weight and body thrown forward and down. This combined with trying to hang on to the bars, with the resultant twist of the throttle, which often leads to even more unfortunate circumstances.
Example - James Stewart losing control in the whoops and gassing it into the back of Chad Reed, taking them both down.

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Ross Mc wrote: 12:34am May 4, 2011

I've got tickets to the final this Saturday and I can't wait. I am going to watch Chad win......he's the most deserving and hard working rider in the series right now. RV is very good but also young enough to potentially win many more series in the future. I like Bubba, and agree that he is a very talented rider but I think he may just have succumb to all the hype and actually believed in the 'fastest man on the planet' BS.......and of course he's come unstuck, and lost focus and that what it all about - this is why I think Chad should win

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 1:18am May 4, 2011

I don't like the racist talk, but I'll admit that when people describe Stewart's riding style as "gibs me dat," I chuckle every time. It can't be helped.

It definitely sounds like he's not doing outdoors, from what he says on Twitter. Not cool. Stewart disappoints me almost routinely, but I always come back for more. I won't even pretend that that's sane.

bd200, we need to talk, man. Sometimes you're so irrational it's physically painful.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 2:39am May 4, 2011

"All of JS bad rides were clearly self induced." - David Langford

Not Jacksonville; he was hit by Byrne. There's no need for anyone to 'talk dirty' since your post ISN'T true.

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Rob wrote: 2:52am May 4, 2011

No outdoors for JS7? San Manuel is a disaster. Prediction, either James buys the team, starts a new team, or goes to Honda. Taking off all summer to hang on the boat with your man friend is going to do nothing but ruin his timing- as he heads into SX next year.

Wait, prediction, JS7 switches to NASCAR.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 2:55am May 4, 2011

@Acejas.. Latest pulpmx podcast, according to Matthes's sources.. Yamaha is not supporting the then L&M outfit in any way for the outdoors... So unless he shelves the $$ out of his own pocket... He will ride.
And... For now, there are still legal issues ongoing between JSE & Brooks... Read in a french website who has ties to DV.. Brooks will soon make his appearance and explain his loooooonng family time.
And read as well on another forum.. Yamaha is just fed up paying the big $$ and the result were below their expectations.. And yet there is a agreement between stewie and yamaha till 2012... best solution.. Part ways. Yamaha is losing a lot of $$ and definitely not recouping their investment.
@Open class... Good post... Am a fan of his, but that was spot on regrding JS.
On another note.. if Reed does not find any sponsor.. He will also be out for the outdoors.
I reckon, Reed is feeling it now, not being able to win the 3 races and the championship to recoup at least the investment of being a team onwer.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 3:04am May 4, 2011

@Rob... It's not San Manuel's fault in this matter (They are just a sponsor)... Brooks & Kranyak formed L&M... And If I believe Reed.. He was also involved in getting the sponsors on board back in 06'. Hence their is a ongoing legal battle between Reed & Brooks regarding $$.
When Stewie came on board... San Manuel saw fit to have a rider who happens to be coloured to fit their bill (litterally). And yamaha was also willing to shelve out the necessary $$ to have Stewie's services as well.
Kranyak sold his shares of the team to JSE last year.. And untill Brooks explains his family time off.. One can only speculate it, JSE wants to have the remaining shares, and there is no role for Brooks in the new outfit.
And the Honda - JS rumour is another bullcrap... Honda has a very good set up.. And a very good rider(s).. TC. Honda has also enough talent to pull from, such as Barcia, Tomac & Seely...
Honda has learned that paying someone big $$ does not always help them in selling more bikes... Hence back in 04', they let RC go.

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jairtime wrote: 3:36am May 4, 2011

I wonder how James Stewart feels to know that this series' points standings have shown that Ryan Dungey is a better rider than him.

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SmartypantS wrote: 3:44am May 4, 2011

Throt´tle
n.1. when in doubt, gas it.
2. (Steam Engine) The throttle valve.

Whis´key-throt´tle
n.1. when really, really, in doubt, really, really gas it!
2. A light carriage built for rapid motion; - called also tim-whiskey.

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Grawz137 wrote: 3:44am May 4, 2011

I,as many other's of you out there was wondering why & how this whole "CLUTCH" catch phrase thing came about, but had only heard the term used in Baseball and Golf, so just for fun I looked it up in my trusty Oxford Dictionary.
Here goes, #1 v grasp tightly n a tight grasp, #2 a device for connecting and disconnecting moving parts, #3 a set of eggs for hatching; chickens hatched from.
So W.T.F. Whoever started this STUPID catch phrase, please stop it...before I have a cow,I mean you don't have to be a Rocket Scientist to understand ya know.

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BillC wrote: 7:21am May 4, 2011

@bd200, I know you wern not saying anything bad i was just telling ya that JS did say Aldon't traing does not have a lot of bike time in it.

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Rick Melon wrote: 9:28am May 4, 2011

SX 2012 should be a great year

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FoyBoy517 wrote: 9:30am May 4, 2011

Whoops_blitzer..
James has had a few races concluding to crashes,not by himself..im sure reeds knocked him around a few times,and then bubba bumps back and reed fans get sore and need to replace a tampon or somethin..if bubba dont race ill lose a little respect...can we just state one fact...kevin windham has had a season of a lifetime,hes up and down,first to fifth,back to podium,i mean hes so old compared to these young guys,and hes still whoopin up on em,maybe if all these guys were a lil more country,they would be a lil tougher..lol..even if windham retires out of no where,hes got my respect..hes said to be waitin for 2014 to retire,if so...ill gladly buy merchandise even after hes gone..the guys a real moto legend,hall of famer in my eyes

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yamaha151 wrote: 9:40am May 4, 2011

Alls i have to say is that if dungeys chain never would of come of he would be points leader i understand villopoto missed a whole main. And if dungey just would have been agressive this year he would of easily had the title.

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Hawk wrote: 9:46am May 4, 2011

Matthes.......Reed DID NOT have a factory honda as you stated. It was his same bike with a few works parts..clutch, wheels.....

And Im sorry, but stewies gear looks like it was pulled out of the port-o-pot pit. Just a nasty design.

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Retardcross wrote: 10:10am May 4, 2011

The JS not having enough riding in his program stuff is crap, I recall seeing a video where JS is bragging about how he barely rides and trains at all during the week but can still win, and was he not in Bahamas on the two week break while the others were working? Aldon Baker is the last person to blame failures on, the guy knows a thing or two. Blaming a bad season on a trainer of that calibre just makes you look like an idiot.

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mx123 wrote: 10:35am May 4, 2011

vital mx has video of stewert training for outdoors!

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mx123 wrote: 10:37am May 4, 2011

I think atlanta take out move chad reed made on stewert is going to bite chad reed in vegas look out boys chad is getting the punt into the upperdeck lol.

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David Langford wrote: 11:01am May 4, 2011

Whoops blitzer, not to be harsh but in Jacksonville JS got one of the poorest starts of the season, and as RC often said we create our own luck. Yes byrne clearly hit JS, but you and I both know if you are coming through the pack what the risks are. JS still got an amazing 3 points out of the deal where RV got none and RD got 1. In this comparo I would say that the blame for these three incedents was equal- RD gets poor start hits TC and chain comes off, RV gets poor start guy in front messes up RV lands on him same in lcq and hes out, JS gets the best deal of the three. In every other races JS screws up much worse. Its pretty clear the JS would be killing it if he could stay up. I still think overall my post was true, but jacksonville was the closest to not his fault, but he still came out better than the ones ahead of him in points

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yzfsean wrote: 11:15am May 4, 2011

I am so tired of JS fans saying that no one can match his speed. Yeah if they tried to match his speed they would end up on the ground also. Are the JS fans saying that riding over your head is a good thing? It sure hasn't played out that way this year. Give it a rest! JS is the 4th fastest rider this season. Scoreboard!

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Monster wrote: 11:35am May 4, 2011

As I said, the Bubbles fans are already on here with the excuses. And RV won 6 races to Stewies 5. Doesnt really matter if he beat JS "straight up" or not. They were both in the same series. Everyone had an equal shot, and this looks to be RV's title. Now, all you little whiny Stewie fans, go turn on "Bubbles World", grab your woobie, and rock yourself back and forth while you cry yourself to sleep...

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Micahdogg wrote: 11:47am May 4, 2011

Congrats to the 2011 SX season winner, whoever that will be, most likely RV2. Several rounds back I said, "whoever wins this thing, completely deserves it, no asterisk." It's been a great year and i'm pumped for Vegas. All of the top 5 have things to be very proud of, and also to be disappointed about. That's racing.

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JonR290 wrote: 11:48am May 4, 2011

Matthes said "....it appears that we can judge Stewart’s season as a failure despite the five wins."

I completely understand the comments for and against Stewart here. I will say winning 5 of 16 SX races (maybe 6 of 17 if he wins Vegas) with this stacked class is pretty darn good. Wish I could "fail" like that.

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slick wrote: 11:56am May 4, 2011

@FoyBoy; you are correct. KW is way past his prime and still kickin some of the younger guys butts. he had the misfortune of racing against the G.O.A.T., CR22 and js all in their prime. he will always be my favorite mx rider, his outdoor riding has always been smooth. add to that the fact that he is just a down to earth good guy.

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Bill wrote: 12:08pm May 4, 2011

It is funny that Johnny Cashman has altered his names to mx101 and John Crash.
He still uses the CAPS. Still says uneducated things about Stewart.
I loved the comment about how he must be a respected member of his race community. He is the one who harassed Stewarts mom and family at Southwick as seen in the photos in Racerx. Have another beer buddy.

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Metal Moto Head wrote: 12:11pm May 4, 2011

MX123 -- Good lookin' out!!! JS7 at Perris raceway ....Bike looks decent and no pogo stick front end from what I can see.....Perhaps James is pulling the last minute commitment to outdoors like Reed did in 09.....pretty much waited until after Vegas to commit.....James is disapointed and wants nothing more than to go out an win the Nationals.....Hopefully he races and we can watch him and RV lap the field......

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BillC wrote: 12:29pm May 4, 2011

@yzfsean JS is the fastest, Sure they could all go faster and crash, But JS is the only one willing to try it. That IMO is why people say he is the fastest. I think he is The Fastest too but this year it did not work out to well. I give him credit for not being scared to see whats on the other side of the line. I look at it this way, There are guys who never pushed that hard and never won a title, JS pushes that hard and has won many titles. If He backed it down a little and others pushed a little more they wouyld all be the same right?? and what fun would that be??

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Straight Up wrote: 12:30pm May 4, 2011

Everyone saying that James has never lost 'straight up' is full of it. He's been healthy and on the gate for the season the same as everyone else... when you crash OUT FRONT BY YOURSELF and get passed, that's losing as 'straight up' as it gets.

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BillC wrote: 12:34pm May 4, 2011

@slick. K-dub is one of them guys, he has said it himself he needed to push it a little more but just could not do it. Great guy, great LONG career but no titles. if not for the guys you said K_Dub would be a multi time cham. Thats the edge that makes a Champ. The guys who are willing to push to the next level.

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mxmofo wrote: 12:42pm May 4, 2011

@Straight Up,, JS did lose this years SX title straight up.. The only one he has to blame is himself.. He is the fastest, but not the most consistant,, obviously.. The vitalmx.com video give me hope that he will show up for the Nationals...

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Rick Melon wrote: 1:42pm May 4, 2011

"Straight Up" is a silly word.....

Stewart is the fastest guy out there, but he falls and that cost him the title, so he lost the title

RV is a close 2nd in speed, but has been more consistent and minimal crashes that have not cost him as much as james, so he in the end has beat james in points and for the title most likely.

Reed is consistent but not as fast as JS7 and RV, hasnt won many races but he will lose the title because he cant get those wins

Dungey is consistent..plays it safe.and is equal to Reed on the speed side of things, maybe faster...Only 1 win when the other guy has 6 isnt going to work in the end if you play it safe

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yzfsean wrote: 3:45pm May 4, 2011

@billc... I think it would make for great races if all the top guys were close to the same speed. JS rides over his head and crashes. Not only did that not get it done this year, but you have to question how smart that is in the long run when you consider your own personal health. It is a dangerous sport, but subjecting your body to continuous injury will effect long term quality of life.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 5:24pm May 4, 2011

Stewart is going to be HURTING when he's older. Poor guy.

Good to see him testing for outdoors. I had a feeling that his tweets weren't telling the whole story. Hopefully he can keep pace without looking shaky, like at Unadilla.

As for the whole "domination" debate, obviously the box score will tell you that Villopoto was most dominant. Stewart simply had many dominant rides turn disastrous.

As for the whole "straight-up" debate, the term is used when the party who lost has NO EXCUSE for losing. If he crashed, he or his supporters will always be able to cite that as an excuse. I think it's legitimate, but if you're of the party who won, you probably don't.

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me wrote: 9:49pm May 4, 2011

didier , did you really, say coloured .. is this the freaking 50s , wow , now I am convinced that most of you are a bunch of uneducated Idiots ..you guys are making nascar look more intelligent .. and thats hard to do

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B-KR wrote: 10:01pm May 4, 2011

If Stewart isn't outdoors, I say it is a clear sign that he thinks he wouldn't have a shot at it. I doubt he is interested in the work that is going to be required to beat RV this year and he certainly couldn't handle getting his ass handed to him on a regular basis. I can't see how chilling all summer while this group gets together every week and pushes each other all summer is going to work out for him next year in SX.

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 1:45am May 5, 2011

@me... Look at my name... English is not my mother tongue... And was just remembering what magasines and websites said after they had interviewed Brooks & San Manuel, regarding the signing of JS back in 08'.

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FoyBoy517 wrote: 9:21am May 5, 2011

all that needs to be said billc and slick..k-dub is the man,his misfortunate competitors put him in a bad position..if it werent for them,he would be more recognized..id love to meet k-dub one more tiime before hes gone,much respect.

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joemotocross589 wrote: 5:57am May 6, 2011

All I wanna know is if J/S7 hollered "MAAAAKEUP!!!!" at the checkers?? seriously?

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Trucker#14 wrote: 10:18am May 6, 2011

Who has more sx wins than Reed ?[thats lining up @ the gate] Just Stewi,and if Stewi hadnt ghost ridden his bike into #22 he may have another. Even tho that happened and sh *t does happen, Reed`s in 2nd. To say he had nothing for RV in Utah, I thought Reed had caught RV and finished on his a..ss ,less than 1second behind,I may have seen a different race than others who commented. Nobody considered Reed to even have a chance @ the title and with one race to go as usual Reed`s in it with a chance to win it.RV`s an animal and I hope its a battle. Also think Stewi is racing the nationals ,only four of them tho,then "the fastest crasher on the planet" will crash on the couch.million dollar talent and the 10 cent brain. I really think Stewi has crashed more times this one season than Reed has in 5 seasons.

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Foxrider795 wrote: 11:29am May 6, 2011

JS Is still the fastest man alive so what everybody crashes if your not crashin your going to slow and he is the most aggressive rider today.

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joemotocross589 wrote: 2:46pm May 6, 2011

I feel I am highly qualified to comment on the crashing theory. ya know I used to crash alot......and after many yrs of sifting thru reasons why, I can only honestly say, I sucked stacked next to my competiton. I bet js feels the same. :p

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rvfan216 wrote: 4:28am May 10, 2011

All you guys need to grow up and get off JS. Yes he had a good run. Yes he was the fastest. Yes he had a bad year, but if he wants to get 'seat time' why isn't he on his bike? To make it in any sport you have to have heart, JS has no heart. All he cares about is looking ood on tv. He hasn't been wadding it up because hes riding over his head. He has road that way his hole life, and its worked. He had a bad year. I am a huge RV fan. I have been since he started riding 250's. He is the best right now and he proved that. I hate JS with a passion but you have to give him a one thing. He is a great rider. If he's not why is he in the pro series?

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