by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: Dallas
Tuesday, April 5, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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PrintRound 13 of Monster Energy AMA Supercross jumped aboard the crazy train once again and headed down to Arlington, Texas, where the motto "Everything is bigger in Texas" lived up to its name. The tour headed to the monstrosity that is known as Cowboys Stadium and once again the boys of Supercross provided plenty of drama for the 50,000-plus fans that packed the house that Jerry built. But enough about the drama--let's get to the lap charts, brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 4 |
50.196 | 2 |
52.235 |
James Stewart |
| 2 |
1 |
50.247 | 4 |
51.636 |
Trey Canard |
| 3 | 8 |
50.481 | 4 |
54.414 |
Chad Reed |
| 4 | 2 |
50.581 |
5 |
51.585 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 5 | 3 |
50.650 |
8 |
51.711 |
Ryan Dungey |
| 6 | 5 |
50.922 |
5 |
52.697 |
Kevin Windham |
| 7 | 6 |
51.636 |
5 |
53.188 |
Andrew Short |
| 8 |
9 |
52.133 |
7 |
54.651 |
Austin Stroupe |
| 9 | 15 |
52.279 |
4 |
55.363 |
Ivan Tedesco |
| 10 | 16 |
52.430 |
11 |
57.947 |
Kyle Regal |
| 11 | 13 |
52.568 |
5 |
55.680 |
Chris Blose |
| 12 | 7 |
52.694 |
5 |
53.786 |
Tommy Hahn |
| 13 | 17 |
52.947 |
3 |
53.806 |
Justin Brayton |
| 14 | 14 |
53.230 |
5 |
55.711 |
Michael Byrne |
| 15 | 11 |
53.757 |
5 |
55.150 |
Weston Peick |
| 16 | 10 |
53.787 |
18 |
55.240 |
Mike Alessi |
| 17 |
18 |
54.315 |
2 |
54.470 |
Nick Wey |
| 18 | 12 |
54.416 |
11 |
55.657 |
Fabien Izoird |
| 19 | 19 |
DNF |
DNF |
DNF |
Cole Seely |
| 20 | 20 |
DNF |
DNF |
DNF |
Davi Millsaps |
After a couple week hiatus, James Stewart reclaimed the throne of the lap charts by setting a 50.196 on lap two. By now we all know what happened shortly thereafter, but this is about lap charts people, so I shall digress.
Canard set the second fastest lap of the night en route to his third victory on the season.
Photo: Simon Cudby
The young redhead from Oklahoma continues to impress in his first full season in the AMA Supercross class. Canard now has three wins to his name and is still in the thick of the title hunt with four races to go. Canard set the second fastest lap of the night with a 50.247, just getting clipped by Stewart.
Rarely do we see four or five guys push to within tenths of seconds of each other in their fastest laps. Well this week we had six riders all run a fast lap under the 50-second mark (Stewart, Canard, Reed, RV, Dungey, and Windham). These guys were laying it down with the championship on the line, and don't be surprised to see more of the same in St. Louis.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 17 |
51.862 |
2 |
1:00.727 | Ryan Sipes |
| 2 | 1 |
51.932 |
2 |
53.103 | Dean Wilson |
| 3 | 2 |
52.065 |
6 |
53.248 | Justin Barcia |
| 4 | 3 |
52.512 |
4 | 54.090 | Blake Wharton |
| 5 |
5 |
52.735 |
4 |
54.898 | Matt Lemoine |
| 6 | 7 |
53.055 |
7 |
54.974 | Blake Baggett |
| 7 | 6 |
53.686 |
8 |
55.066 | Darryn Durham |
| 8 | 4 | 53.735 |
4 |
54.531 | Malcolm Stewart |
| 9 | 10 |
54.124 | 4 |
55.854 | Tyler Bright |
| 10 | 8 |
54.320 |
5 |
55.663 | Gannon Audette |
| 11 | 12 |
54.393 |
2 |
57.118 | Jason Anderson |
| 12 | 14 |
54.514 |
4 |
57.795 |
Lance Vincent |
| 13 | 11 |
54.582 |
3 |
55.886 |
Hunter Hewitt |
| 14 | 9 |
54.619 |
9 |
56.050 |
Alex Martin |
| 15 | 19 |
54.636 |
3 |
55.181 |
Justin Sipes |
| 16 | 13 |
55.176 |
5 |
57.333 |
Taylor Futrell |
| 17 | 20 |
55.889 |
2 |
2:51.420 |
Nick Myers |
| 18 | 18 |
55.967 |
3 |
1:01.217 |
AJ Cantanzaro |
| 19 | 15 |
55.998 |
3 |
58.058 |
Hunter Clements |
| 20 | 16 |
56.713 |
3 |
58.410 |
Levi Kilbarger |
DNA Shred Stix/Star Racing Yamaha's Ryan Sipes continues to be the poster child for being super fast in practice and super fast in the main, only to pay the price by making mistakes at crucial points in the race. Once again Sipes was the quickest in practice and in the main (fastest lap of the night with a 51.862), but was hindered by costly mistakes.
Two in a row for Wilson.
Photo: Simon Cudby
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Stewart "Fastest man on the planet" in practice, 4th fastest average lap time. Hmmm.........
JS still the FASTEST guy!! LOL let the fun begain!!
Canard looks good, Last year he said he got worn out but this year he is still strong!! Hell even RD got worn down a little last year by this time. Very impressed TC!!
stewart is still fast as hell but he's still out of control and nobody can't deny that. reed was looking fast too but worst came to worst for him. good job trey! he's really pulling through this year and showing these guys up
poor Sipes, Fast again and nothin to show for it.
Gillett,
I'm not sure if you saw the race, but Stewart crashed. Therefore, posting the 4th fastest average lap time is quite an accomplishment. Hmmm.....
RV had the FASTEST Avg Lap Time but did not win!!
That shows how fast he is Kickstand!! LOL
Trey Canard = Honda's best decision since Ricky Carmichael
Remember, RD was taken out by Byrne (his words) and Reed was taken out by Bubba so those guys would have had a better average time. Its odd how times work unless you research each and every lap and incident. Its even more interesting to look at segment times to see who was getting through the whoops best etc.
If not for those take outs i think RD would have moved up a place or two and Reed would also have been up there. JS? who knows.. i give up trying to figure that guy out:)
yamahaa, you may be right!
Kickstand, Stewart crashed? I can't believe it. But I understand. You guys are still going to stick up for him and say he should have won the race. Did I watch the race? No. I don't like motor-bicycles, I just like being on the computer and arguing with a bunch of internet geeks. I'm more into the shows Cops and CSI. I like watching them catch people who break the law or impersonate officers.
I hope Sipes gets a 450 ride for next year. he is a legit top 10
Kickstand, do you think that I might also be a racer and follow Supercross and Motocross and my statement about Stewart and his lap time in qualifying and his average lap in the main might have been a bit sarcastic by saying "hmmm", because he DID crash yet once again in the main, bringing down his average lap time. Carry on.
Trey Canard 2011 SX Champ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the season is almost over and there are statistics that now can be collected besides the obvious like wins and holeshots.
how about crashes resulting in the take down or out other riders. I'm pretty sure who will top the chart but curiosity tells me lets check the facts.
again, for the best of the series points, it will be very cool to see the top 5 reversed in finishing order this weekend and so I am rooting for JS .............. dam, this is killing me. hahaha, not a hater but not a liker
What about the argument of the winner always has the best average lap time.....Not the case this week....RV had the best AVG LAP ans was like 8 seconds behind Trey at the finish....weird...I hate math
If Trey were to win the next 4 races, and RV got top 3 every time....is that enough to win the series?
Alessi's best lap was on lap 18?....good thing he nails those starts.....
Str8 out of an arrest, JS7 was on it. This might make haters mad but JS7 is still the fastest man on the planet.
Its a shame JS has had this much drama this year....He clearly is still the fastest on any given night, just having some distractions (aside from the arrest) off the track it seems....hopefully he can get it together the last few races and get ready for outdoors....unless he wins every race and the others have some bad nights....title is not going to the JS7 camp.... GO RV!
Stewart is the fastest one lap...prolly the most out of control lap.The fastest man to not win a race in how long?? Fastest does NOT equate to being the best lap after lap. RV,RD,CR,KW,TC have proven that speed AND consistency is what takes them to the checkers. Stewart has torpedo skills,I'm not gonna lie, he is the best at being the most spectacular crasher I have ever witnessed.
WOW!! Go fast for one lap then crash because he is riding over his head again, the story of Stewies entire season. I like what Trey Canard did, ride as fast as his talent and still be 100 th of a second from the fastest, and WIN the race. That is what gets wins. Fastest for one lap IS NOT the fastest rider. Firsat to the finish line is the fastest.
Exactly bd200. Winner is fastest. Winner nailed all aspects of racing, start, obtacles, lappers, machine prep. Next they'll say JS is fastest in certain corners or through rythm sections... We race to find winners, period.
Geeze, all this hating. Just enjoy the show. At this rate, JS7 won't get the $$$$ or be physically fit to keep racing if he keeps crashing. You guys wanna bag on JS7, did it occur to you that both he and Reed crashed and JS7 still has the 4th fastest avg. lap and C"Squid"R22 was 8th?
Another "fastest lap" for Bubba. Way to go! A fast lap time must make him the fastest man on the planet. I think it's safe to say that Bubba's time has come and past. Riding on the edge like that while not being good enough to control it will only result in crashing (in Bubba's case this year thats a fact, not opinion). Maybe next year Booba can come back and maybe try to be focused on winning races instead of a TV show. Also, maybe he needs to hire a riding coach to help him out a bit. He obviously has no plan - he just tries to pin it everywhere. It's working out great! :)
snooze read my post above ..RD also was taken out/crashed and look at where he finished and his average lap time!
If everyone takes off at the same time, and Canard finished first, how is his average lap time not the fastest? He obviously did 20 laps in the least amount of time, so lowest overall time, divided by 20 should = the fastest average lap time.
Did Dungey "crash" or just fall over in a turn? No coverage of that one....He blamed Burner for that incident....JS7 will turn it around, maybe too late for the SX as its been a crazy season thus far....but outdoors he will re-ignite the fire inside. Maybe he can get a couple more wins under his belt in SX and really make the final rounds interesting with the CR, RV RD that close in points and battling for podium spots.. This week hopefully he stays out of law trouble, he isnt injured and didnt have any bad wrecks to re-coop from after Dallas, so maybe one good week is all he needs.....Not his biggest fan, but a fan indeed... As a former racer myself, even though he crashes, he does things that amazes even his buddy Reed.....He usually doesnt crash on challenging parts of the track....just makes mistakes for some reason...Its always nice to see someone with that talent turn things around and get back to winning....so good luck James I say.
Rumor has it they start timing on second lap....but that still doesnt make sense...I am almost tired of the " who has faster lap times" and " fastest qualifier"...Whomever is standing on the podium had the best night....
Wow, Snooze, on one hand you stype "all this hating, just enjoy the show" then shortly after, you type "C"Squid"R22". Unacceptable unless along YOUR party line, eh?
I don't need lap times to see Trey Canard is gaining momentum. This guy is a straight-up stud! I second Yamahaa's motion "TC = best decision for Honda since RC".
Dallas' whoops proved good tracks aren't just all about jumps. Well done, Dirt Wurx.
GILLETT,, how original ... Ive never heard that before. (the very first post) hahaha..
bd200,, I guess Reed was riding over his head on the last lap, right ??? Oh thats right,, his seat made him crash.. hahahahahahah
Snooze........how does C"Squid"R22 make any sense? He's one of the most consistent and smooth riders this sport has ever seen.
"dgizzy wrote: about 1 hour ago
Str8 out of an arrest, JS7 was on it. This might make haters mad but JS7 is still the fastest man on the planet."
Who cares? Where did he finish? The FMOTP thing is becoming meaningless to anyone other than the JS followers. He can have that self proclaimed title all he wants while others collect championships. First one to the checkers is the fastest, get over it and stop oogling over a single fast (useless) lap time per night.
Seriously mxmofo??? Reed crashed on his own Saturday, so what, it happens. Same goes with Stewart, it was a mistake and unfortunately cost them both. But you can't even compare the two as far as "riding over their heads". One thing is definitely for certain as proven by the record books, JS rides out of control and crashes/takes people out ALL THE TIME. How often does Reed ride over his head? Get a clue. You're impossible to reason with.
@mxmofo, at least I didn't say "holeshot" or "First".
I would like to see an answer to DBerg's question. How does first place not have the lowest average time, second the next lowest average,...anything else doesn't seem to make sense. The only explanation I could see may be the timing starts when you cross the finish line the first time, so the difference is caused by how long it takes to get from the start to the finish line the first time?
mxmofo, if you have ever raced, which I doubt. You know you have to use your legs to get through whoops with any speed at all. If you squeeze with your lags and your seat comes off, or even up, your done. I know I would be, its what I always held my bike straight with in whoops, my legs.
bd200 why do you think everytime someone crashes they are ridding over there head?? Do you really think that?? I don't think thats the case everytime. I think its lack of concentration. Lots of his crashes are not in very hard sections IMO. I find with myself when I cruse I make more mistakes than I do when I am pushing. hell people crash in the pits... were they riding over there head??
Yes KK, the clock starts when the cross the finish line the first time.
James is reminding me of Ricky's first year in the big class, when he was on a 250 Two Smoke....wasn't he blindingly fast right up until he hit the deck in a lot fo those first races? Checkers or Wreckers. JS is becoming the squirreliest rider out there!
I think the Honda boys made the decision to setup TC's suspension for 1 thing in Dallas: getting through those whoops. His bike looked so steady in the whoops, it's like he was riding "normal" whoops and everyone else was riding the actual ones that were there.
It is ridiculously awesome though to have the points get reshuffled every week. I gotta get an HD DVD burner as I don't ever want to delete these races off my DVR but there's only so much space!
And how about the new Evel Knievel, Kevin "yeah, I can make it from here to there..." Windham with his pre-race tempting of fate? Good gawd he's sick....
Retardcross,, Chill out Dude,, notice the "hahahahah".
bd200,, your right, I'm sure it has absoulutely nothing to do with Reeds front tire being turned when it hit the face of the whoop...
That is true...crashing doesnt always mean your riding "over your head".... It happens...A rear wheel breaking loose and making you high side can be caused from a stupid rock in the soil....it happens...True, JS does ride over his head...all riders do at one point, maybe JS does than others....Reed was all over the track in his Heat race and finally crashed...he was riding over his head.....When reed crashed outdoors in 2009 , he was not riding over his head, the bike just did what it wanted....like JS at Daytona....he wasnt riding over his head....just got some extra traction that he didnt expect....it happens
D-Berg,
When I first read your post, I thought It would be an easy answer but it baffles me the more i think about it...I understand why the racers who crashed had lower avg lap times but why didn't RV win the race since he had the best avg lap times and never went down? The only explanation I can think of was because RV's lap times must have been lower the first few laps because he was coming through the pack. I wish there was a site that had the lap times for all the rider for every lap and we could figure out what the deal is.
Changing the subject, I get kind of tired of reading all the Stewart hater posts. Yes, he is out of control lately but he can still turn things around as fast as things started going downhill for him. He's proven to keep the bike on two wheels and win championships so why judge him for the past 5 or 6 races? It makes the races fun to watch to see someone push the envelope so much so you gotta give the boy some props every once in a while. Stating that he's done just makes you look like an idiot because once he gets back on the right program and gets the right people involved in his crew he's probably going to start winning again because he's still the fastest man on the planet, just needs to get his crap in order. Lots of athletes go through little droughts here and there in their careers and James happens to be in one right now.
Stewart fired LB and his suspension guy before Daytona. He has to relize that Larry was good at his job by now. Also at A-1 was the first time Stewarts Yamaha looked like the suspension was working really well. Since firing his suspension guy his bike has looked bad, at Dallas his forks looked like they had a 100psi in them, at least 3 times in the woops his bars almost hit him in the face. Has anyone else noticed that his forks look so stiff? I don't know but Stewart probally bought the team and made his dad team manager? Thats a guess? but whatever is going on at L/M it isn't working. I have never been a big fan of Larry Brooks but he is starting to look like a genius. Anyone notice the stiff forks or is it just me? I know everybody runs them stiff in SX but his look redonk!
Slarveson - Actually AMA Supercross.com has all the individual lap times....go to RESULTS and then pick the race you want and it has Heat race. LCQ and everything...pretty cool.
Well said about stewart!.. A lot of these folks realize that without these crashes and some bad luck too (not all james fault) James would be kickin' some ass in the points...so they have to kick a man while he is down....
Besides that, all the stewart haters seem to act like stewart has taken guys out the entire season at every race. He's definitely out of control lately and has created more havic for other riders than anyone else in supercross class but let's see what exactly has he done to other riders?...I can't remember anything before the "Reed taking out Stewart" incident so we'll start there.
1) Reed takes out Stewart and costs james the win (in atlanta i think?)
2) Stewart lands on the back of (can't remember his name) but it was obvious
that the guy bobbled before he hit the jump so he kind of cased the landing
and slowed himself up enough that James had nowhere else to go. Yes, if
James was a cautious rider than he might have anticipated something like
that happening and chose to land next to the guy instead of right on his
line, but it wasn't completely his fault...even the guy he landed on said
that it was his fault.
3) James takes himself out at Daytona in a freak accident but makes the
greatest comeback (considering how hard his crash was and how far
back he was) in supercross history... can you think of a better one?
To watch Stewart at Daytona and think that he's not the fastest man
on the planet is retarded.
4) Riders (Byrne mainly) come behind Stewart too fast for the right handed
first turn and knock him into oncoming traffic and HE gets landed on.
5) He makes a slightly aggressive pass on RV two weeks ago and they
both go down. If you watch the replay on TV, you will see that RV chose
to cut the inside instead of taking the berm like they normally do so it
wasn't necessarily stewarts fault....besides RV pulled the same move
same place on a rider later on....THAT RACING FOLKS!
6) Stewart loses control in the whoops and runs into Reed unintentionally.
So why's all the Stewart hating? He has never intentionally taken out anyone the entire series...yes he's out of control but SO WHAT!...he'll learn from his mistakes and come out swingin...cut the guy some slack!
CR22 is one my all time fav riders, just busting balls.
Alot of changes with San Manuel team, clearing cap space to make room for outdoors? I don't know if firing suspension tech was a smart move if this is the intention.
I think fastest average lap time is a meaningless stat. The fstest average lap time is the guy who won the race. Both CR and JS spent time sitting on the dirt during that race which reduced their average lap time so do we stop the clock until they get back on? What about getting held up by lappers - exclude those laps too? IMHO if you want to know the fastest guy check out the single hottest lap of the day with a clear track and if you want to know the best racer look at the podium and the championship.
some people get it, The last 4 posts... = very good.
hey bd200 don't look now another guy does not think JS took out RV in toronto!! and here you had me thinking I was the only one!! Silly YOU!!
if you give .2 seconds back to CR, JS, and RD for crashing, which is farrrr less than the amount of time to get back up and get going, RD would actually have the fastest avg laptime....Not to mention he inched away from stewart and caught up to RV....when RD wins the championship im going to laugh at all of you for babbling about stewart all day
"Another "fastest lap" for Bubba. Way to go! A fast lap time must make him the fastest man on the planet"--tomktm
Bingo.
Call me an obsessed weirdo, but based on monstersupercross.com, i figured out how they average the lap times.
They take the total race time from start to finish for each rider and divide by 20. They messed up on this site because if you do that, you would get:
JS: RacerX = 52.235; Total time/20 = 17.575min (Treys time)+15.016s (interval between JS and trey) = total time...so total time for JS = 17.82min...carrying on...........17.82/20=.89 min....89min*60sec = 53.48s per lap average for JS.
Therefore, they must have screwed up on this site or else not included crash laps or something like that. There now i can sleep tonight
Racer X - so we can quit seeing this question asked each week, maybe a quick article explaining 'avg lap times'?
Folks: its pretty simple. Everyone blasts off the gate - goes around some portion of the track (usually ~3/4ths of a lap) and then crosses the finish line for the first time. That is lap 1. That 'lap' does not count in avg lap time. At that point that a given rider crosses the finish line for 'lap 1', until that given rider crosses the finish line for lap 20 (the end of the race) is the time from which avg lap is calculated. The time from the finish of lap 1 to the finish of lap 20 divided by 19. Essentially, it is eliminating the start (good or bad) from the equation...kind of a 'who was fastest, excluding the good/bad start'
If rider 'a' is 10 seconds ahead of rider 'b' when each cross the finsih line on lap 1 (as rider 'a' got the better start) - and then 'b' is only 1 second behind 'a' at the end - 'b' will have a faster avg lap time, but still lose to 'a'.
@slarverson I'm not sure if your joking or not. If your not joking they don't time from the starting gate to the start and finish. The first lap alway varies from track to track. They start the clock at start and finish begining on lap 2 to get accurate lap times. RV2 got a bad start and he was held up on the first lap that doesn't get timed, That is why he had the best average time without winning.
RV2's seat was coming off in the main! The mechanic didn't get the front of the seat hooked on the tank and it was floping all over during the race. He was trying to hold it with his legs and it slowed him down a little. After the race there was only one bolt holding it on in the back. Close Call!
Well James is like someone who has a higher mph in a drag race but loses to a car that has a faster elapsed time (e.t.) RV.
Until we see fastest lap of the night awards for people Sipes and Stewart are sh** out of luck but anyways go Sipes and RV!
Hope RV2 wins this week @St.Louis . After last years nasty get off there.If he mentally overcomes this weekend race and makes it on the box ,he will be 2011 SX Champ !!
Hope RV2 wins this week @St.Louis . After last years nasty get off there.If he mentally overcomes this weekends race and makes it on the box ,he will be 2011 SX Champ !!
Gee BILLC, you are totally consumed by anything I post, I am really honored or really creeped out, I cant decide which. Since several people have the same opinion about Stewie the last several weeks, and I am the only one you comment on. And I never said anybody was riding over their head when they crashed except Stewie, so why would you think I felt that way about all crashes?? It was your buddy MXMOFO who said that about Reed not me. I just feel Stewie has been because he is pushing so hard and panicking because he isnt winning.
Wheather they think he took RV down on purpose or not, do you notice a pattern here Billy, all the crashes involve different riders but Stewie is involved in EVERY one of them. Problem?? I think it is. or just a coincedence?? NO dont think so.
Not consumed bd200 more like shocked by how little you know. As for your last post that has nothing to do with what we were talking about, YOU said NO one but me feels that way about the RV one, I just pointed out that there was yet another one who feels the same way and once again you have to go add more to it.
bd200,, I remember KW, CR, IT, NW and others crashing,, but I dont remember JS being involved in those..
Way to dodge a question Bill,
I learned for you.
gwan matty love ya cant see ya in finalls coz pgl but hope you win x