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The Moment: Toronto

Monday, March 28, 2011 | 11:00 AM

When we brainstormed about a new column called The Moment for this season, we anticipated digging deep within the cracks of each race to find the small incidents that have a big impact on a race.

We could find that moment in Toronto if we needed to. Ryan Dungey went off the track while leading, then pulled a nifty save to get back on the track and not lose much time. He could have lost the race at that moment, which would have changed the season dramatically.

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Stewart overcame another bad start to salvage fourth.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

Later Chad Reed launched an attack on Dungey to try to get the win, but he made a mistake of his own, jumping from a 54.7 on lap 17 to a 56.2 on lap 18. And at that point, Dungey had stepped up his own pace in response to Reed, dropping from a 55.2 to a 54.1 on lap 17 to 18. On lap 18, Dungey won the race.

But those are just the details. The small things. The biggest moment in Toronto took place on lap three, when James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto came together and went down. Any pass that results in two riders going down creates a stir, especially when it involves two riders who where running one-two in the series for the majority of the year.

View the crash anyway you’d like--Stewart took Villopoto down, or Villopoto turned down into Stewart, or, gasp, it was just a racing incident while battling through traffic. But the bottom line is that two contenders lost more points.

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RV suffered more bad luck in Toronto. This time it cost him the points lead.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson

We expected The Moment to dig into the small stuff, but in this wild and crazy supercross season, the big moments haven't been big, they've been huge: Villopoto and Stewart washing out their front tire in a couple of early races, Villopoto crashing early in San Diego, Dungey losing a chain in Anaheim, Reed and Stewart crashing in Atlanta, Stewart crashing in Daytona, and then Stewart and RV having problems the last two weeks.

In any normal supercross season, we’d have to dig hard to find the story. This year, things seem set to explode every week.

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SX123 wrote: 11:11am March 28, 2011

What exactly happened between Stewart and Villopoto?

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fan since 78 wrote: 11:14am March 28, 2011

great race again, so happy for RD1 and also for the upcoming epic final stretch.

Those of you who watched Speed, was the audio on your telecast all messed up like the mic was in the stands next to the fans? could not hear fro or ralph or whats her name.
How cool would it have been had RV2 been able to get going right with JS7 and not have that throttle issue, DAMMMMMM

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fan since 78 wrote: 11:15am March 28, 2011

stewart and RV2 came together in the 180 after the whoops, aggresive block pass but not dirty, RV kept on it, they collided n both went down.

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Ralf wrote: 11:24am March 28, 2011

James came inside on the bowl turn after the whoops and RV turned into him wrecking them both.(Least James was turning)
RV should have just let off and not left the inside wide open!

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Slim473 wrote: 11:26am March 28, 2011

Thems the breaks when you don't pull a good start...get buried in the pack, suffer the penalty.

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dave wrote: 11:27am March 28, 2011

stewart proved he is as dumb as they get.took out rv for no reason.looks like team stewart needs a new coach .no more fat sorby.

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johnny cashman wrote: 11:28am March 28, 2011

what happen!. stewart plowed into rv,are people blind. it dont matter the stewarts are all done. the biggest thing to bet on is which stewart is going to crash harder and which one has the best excuse. stewart this.... stewart that... who cares he's a bumbling idiot.

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JDubya wrote: 11:28am March 28, 2011

The audio was horrible for this race. They couldn't even turn the replay audio off for the podium interviews. I really didn't mind not having to listen to Shaheens man love for Stewart the whole race. Now that I think about it--Maybe the audio was just fine.

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Redeye wrote: 11:28am March 28, 2011

Hey, how come we're not hearing about the "new and patient James Stewart" anymore? Although people seem to want to say that over the past, ohhhhhh, 4 seasons or so. "Patient" and "James Stewart" belong in the same sentence about as much as "honest" and "politician" do. Racing is racing and I didnt see the incident, so I dont have an opinion on it. But I do think that it would be cool for CR to win this title, to maybe shut up all of the people that always say "he only won because RC wasn't there" or "he only won because Stewie wasn't there" although I am sure that more excuses will come out if he does. All of you guys that make excuses for your rider: F you....

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GILLETT wrote: 11:35am March 28, 2011

Stewart could get 20th every race, or not even qualify, and the first picture, on any site, will be Stewart. Has there ever been that much coverage of a rider not winning ever? Man i'm tired of it.

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dgizzy wrote: 11:35am March 28, 2011

wHEN JS washed out on 1st turn he was mid pack. RV was ahead of him. That means JS must have been faster and caught up to him. I dont think it was a takeout. The way this series is going its really hard to tell whos gonna be on top. The fastest men havent been winning both 450 and 250. Ryan Sipes was on it but Wharton was looking out for Barcia and took him out. At this point Wharton isnt racing but just out there to protect Barcia. He didi the same to Wilson last week.

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mxmofo wrote: 11:35am March 28, 2011

johnny cashman,, he's a bumbling idiot that makes around 10 million a year... How much you make ?? Who's the idiot now ???

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gbs417 wrote: 11:35am March 28, 2011

fan since 78, I agree. It looked like RV tried to square up too soon (as if JS wasn't on the inside) and JS was carrying his momentum out of the whoop into the 180 turn. It was just a racing incident. Too bad, b/c like you said it could've been great racing for a number of laps between RV and JS.
Too bad Speed cut the second 450 heat race. That looked to be a bit more exciting than the first heat.
How about Wharton putting Sipes into the tough blocks?! I felt pretty cheated not being able to see what Sipes could bring to the “Pro Circuit Kawi/Geico Honda show” (i.e. the Lites class) in the main event. He was on fire in qualifying but had a tough heat race. Then he was right there in the main and the caveman stunt double BW21 pushed ‘em wide, haha! I’m glad BW21 is trying to ride like he belongs in the ranks though. Hope he gets his shoulder healed up for the outdoors. Great racing this weekend!...But, Booo Chad Reed, haha! I predict he won’t win the series (barring any huge accident to RV), but he is definitely making it more interesting!

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mxmofo wrote: 11:36am March 28, 2011

dgizzy,,, are you sure ?? I thought he was about 3rd when he slid out ?

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dgizzy wrote: 11:37am March 28, 2011

I never really liked Reedy but boy would it be nice if he can pull it off. He would make history. ANyone in the top 5 is still very much in it. Cant wait to see what happens next week. Oh by the way that kid Malcolm is for real. He has been improving with every race. He had a scary crash tho. Just like his bro he crashes too much and the guy looks way too tall for a 250.

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fan since 78 wrote: 11:38am March 28, 2011

sure wish they would have shown RD1's mishap, they also didnt show CR22 mishap, this was a tape delay telecast so bummed on the editing but very very gratefull for the telecast. Wonder if this round being in canada and Speed maybe not having their normal crew had anything to do with the poor audio and missing key incidents. Vegas, here we come !!!

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dgizzy wrote: 11:39am March 28, 2011

mxmofo I meant after the 1st turn crash when he remounted he was mid pack and behind RV.

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Dennis wrote: 11:42am March 28, 2011

Hallo.

I hope that cr win it all.

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fan since 78 wrote: 11:45am March 28, 2011

yes very very bummed about Sipes getting taken over the berm because it was going to be a very good main with him and PC guys. Bummed for lil stewart too as I would like to see him do good n get out from the shadow he is in, thought for sure he would have broke a wrist in that massive caseing of that triple.

what kinda of dirt does the next round in TX have? soft, going to be rutty?

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fan since 78 wrote: 11:48am March 28, 2011

and how FREAKING hilarious was it when jerk brain 800 went straight on the start and EVEN continued to race, from about last to 6th, hahahaha, "hey, I'll just skip the whole first turn" hahahaha Karma dude, you cut the track and your bike breaks, you cant write this kinda stuff lol

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kx573 wrote: 11:49am March 28, 2011

stewart didn't get a bad start.. he just fell in the 2nd turn goin into the sand.... dgizzy was right about him being about mid pack when he got up..

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blake237 wrote: 11:57am March 28, 2011

Whoever thinks that Stewart took out Villopoto is a complete IDIOT! Villopoto was squaring up the corner, and it looked like he kind of slid out. And Stewart was just going for any other ordinary block pass, and so happened they both went down. Nobody's fault!

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Mark wrote: 11:58am March 28, 2011

Dave, with your wonderful grammer skills you could be Stewarts best friend.

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mx964 wrote: 12:05pm March 28, 2011

stewart didnt take him out it was similar to what happend between reed and stewart last year RV tried to square up the turn to his suprise stewart was there... yall need to enjoy the racing and quit hating on the people providing the entertainment. ps hate on wharton for taking sipes out not in the points battle

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mxmofo wrote: 12:11pm March 28, 2011

dgizzy,, yep, thats true.


mx964,,, hahaaha, thats funny.. Wharton should not even ride, since he's not in the points battle,, right ?

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Laker23 wrote: 12:11pm March 28, 2011

Still haven't heard or seen what happened to Reed on lap 18. Looked like he was going to make it interesting, but Speed chose to show the battle for 7th?

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Laker23 wrote: 12:11pm March 28, 2011

Still haven't heard or seen what happened to Reed on lap 18. Looked like he was going to make it interesting, but Speed chose to show the battle for 7th?

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johnny cashman wrote: 12:20pm March 28, 2011

james stewart, fourth in points, maybe he should use all his $$$ to buy a championship, oh yea there are things money cant buy. Besides he's going to need it for buying all that crack he'll be smoking after realizing he's washed up.

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wrote: 12:23pm March 28, 2011

Wharton took Sipes out because Warton is going to be looking for a ride next year if he doesnt start putting in some good finishes..I think he might crash more than Stewart does...Moves like that, that early in the race are retarded....Sipes was clearly faster than Wharton....If you cant beat them, take them out.....Just like Reed did to Stewart......Couldnt pass him clean or "beat" him straight up, so he took him out.....RV is my ginger and JS7 did not take him out....JS7 made up 3 or 4 bike lengths in the whoops on my boy and I dont even think RV knew JS7 was there.....just racing....

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Keepinitreal wrote: 12:24pm March 28, 2011

If the definition of Bumbling Idiot is......Multi-time national champion and Millionaire who invented the scrub. Then yes I guess JS7 is a bumbling idiot.

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halfe316 wrote: 12:24pm March 28, 2011

if you watch carefully you can see stewart pull his elbow and shoulder down once he realized that 2 was turning down. 2 was turning down to cut under and make a pass, i doubt either of them expected the result and there is no way in HELL you can call it 'dirty riding', if that was dirty then what was Reed's move in atlanta?

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Keepinitreal wrote: 12:26pm March 28, 2011

Cashman you should get a life, I hardly call a 20 second heat race win in 8 laps and a blistering fast qualifying time washed up. Even champions have bad years. Remember McGrath in 97 then came back and won 3 more titles. I'm sure your some kind of expert though.

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twicepipe128 wrote: 12:30pm March 28, 2011

Ha, its funny listening to JS7 fans...he is the fastest man on the planet, but only when there isnt 19 other riders on the track. im not saying im anywhere as fast or as good of a racer as he is, i just call it how i see it, he ran it in on RV2 just as hard as CR22 ran it in on him at atlanta...so the next time you hear JS7 say i dont race or ride like that lets just look back on this race.

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tomktm wrote: 12:31pm March 28, 2011

The audio on the telecast SUCKED!!!!

I'm not saying this time that it's anything more than a "racing incident" but what is the common variable amongst all the "racing incidents" we've had this year??? Number 7....

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wrote: 12:31pm March 28, 2011

Stewart washed up, Are you serious?........He is making some mistakes and having some bad luck this year, whats new..... but washed up? Anaheim 2 - His best race of the year, yeah he looked washed up to me...Daytona? Washed up riders do not smoke the field like that....Stewart has never had a clean season without injury or crashes, that is Stewart....just more this year it seems....but definetly not washed up.

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johnny cashman wrote: 12:31pm March 28, 2011

hey rick melon, sipes was pretty cool about wharton doing what he did, he said he owed him one from a few races earlier when he did it to wharton. I thought that was big of him to say. BTW, NO ONE CRASHES MORE THAN STEWART, EXCEPT FOR MALCOLM, I GUESS JAMES DID TEACH HIM EVERTHING HE KNOWS.

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tomktm wrote: 12:32pm March 28, 2011

Keepinitreal - Bubba most certainly did NOT invent the scrub. Get the facts straight.

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twicepipe128 wrote: 12:36pm March 28, 2011

TC41 has a better scrub than anyone in the field right now!

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johnny cashman wrote: 12:39pm March 28, 2011

thank you tomktm, as a matter of fact jo jo keller who was a very fast new england expert was scrubbing the"' camel hump" at southwick in the 80's

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keepinitreal wrote: 12:42pm March 28, 2011

Man atleast KTM had a great showing again this weekend

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bestseasonever? wrote: 12:45pm March 28, 2011

Is it to early to expand the Big 5 into the Big 6 with NW27's 6th place! Sweet!

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wrote: 12:46pm March 28, 2011

One thing is for sure, you can clearly see/read what folks on here know a thing or two about actual racing (you know who you are) and what folks simply react to what they see on the TV (we know who you are) and make jackass comments when they clearly have no clue what they are talking about.....opinions are like a-holes....and this site surely has them.

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tomktm wrote: 12:47pm March 28, 2011

They sure did keepinitreal, thanks for pointing that out. They mopped up in GNCC and WEC. Not so hot in SX though but thats okay. Come outdoors I think we will see a different story :)

Johnny Cashman - you are correct. I grew up watching Jo-Jo at NESC events. He's still around these parts and can still scrub.... better than the guy who tells everyone he invented it!

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whatever wrote: 12:48pm March 28, 2011

What a bunch of hatin' idiots!!!! All you geniuses who think Stewart is "washed up" need to get your mouths ready for your foot to go in!!! Oh, and to you MX know-it-alls who say he didn't "invent" the scrub......ok, but he most definitely refined and perfected it......who the hell else was doing it the way he did it when he brought it out?? NOBODY!!

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wrote: 12:50pm March 28, 2011

Cash - Yes Sipes is a class act for sure. I look at it as a desperation move, especially that early in the race.....Ok, wharton is a close second behind Stewart....Malcolm it too big for a 250...

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keepinitreal wrote: 12:50pm March 28, 2011

Rick I wish that were true because obviously people are divided over the JS/RV incident. We ALL saw the same thing yet some say it was malicious, I say it's racing. There will always be opinions!

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johnny cashman wrote: 12:53pm March 28, 2011

take it from a melon. tooshae

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BillC wrote: 12:53pm March 28, 2011

dgizzy JS was in first going into turn 2.

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keepinitreal wrote: 12:55pm March 28, 2011

Agreed Whatever...if everyone was doing it than why did so many people notice James doing it??

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bestseasonever? wrote: 12:56pm March 28, 2011

This season, it's all about the player's and how skilled and mentally tuff each and everyone of the top 5 contenders all are. They are all champions! Mistakes from anyone of them make it almost impossible for anyone of them to come from the back to podium much less win and that includes JS7. JS7 is still the fastest of them all. But the faster a person goes is proportional to the greater chance for error plus a shortened time for reaction....

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johnny cashman wrote: 12:57pm March 28, 2011

tomktm, maybe not better i hate to admit, but he did start it, before bubbles was even born !!!!

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tomktm wrote: 12:59pm March 28, 2011

Canard out-scrubs Bubba this year by FAR.

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BillC wrote: 1:02pm March 28, 2011

johnny cashman I grew up racing NESC also and JOJO was not scrubing IMO, When ya scrub the front wheel is pointed down not up. What Jojo was doing was a nice cross up. You can't do what Jojo does in 4th gear on a drop off jump,right?? There for its not a scrub.

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keepinitreal wrote: 1:04pm March 28, 2011

guys have been whippin it for years...whippin however is not scrubbin!!!

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BillC wrote: 1:08pm March 28, 2011

@twicepipe128 ... U really think JS ran it in on RV?? No WAY, It was nothing like what Reed did in atlanta, There Reed drove right in front of JS, Here JS was taking the inside line If RV did not cut down there was no contact. In Atlanta the only way there was no contact was if JS could have somehow stoped. I am a HUGE RV fan but there is no way it was a take out.

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johnny cashman wrote: 1:10pm March 28, 2011

well i think you will find a lot of dissagreement with that comment, and thats ok if you feel that way. maybe you should google jo jo and find some pics of him i think considering the year you should give to him.

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darkstar wrote: 1:14pm March 28, 2011

I was very disappointed in the telecast this week. Too many times we were watching Windham or someone else mid-pack cruising around for a few laps. I don't even remember watching any passes when they were focused on those riders (unless it was Stewart or Villopoto). I don't care what's happening back there unless there's a crash or a pass...if none of those are happening and there's a race at the front where the riders are as close as they were, then focus on what's going on where it matters!

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EP74 wrote: 1:18pm March 28, 2011

I guess when you have the points lead, everyone is going to try to take you out every chance they get.Since they can't beat you straight up. Kinda like short track riders..:-{|

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mxjoe99 wrote: 1:21pm March 28, 2011

Invented the scrub? I heard he Invented the wheelie, cross-up, whip and the back-flip also.....

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BillC wrote: 1:26pm March 28, 2011

johnny cashman i don't need to look up the pic, I have one, I know JoJo and Paul who took the pic very well. It is not a scrub IMO. Like I said try it in 4th on a drop off.... Ya can't do it so its not a scrub.

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Carlsbad wrote: 1:33pm March 28, 2011

The RV/JS dust-up is a non-issue, move on, get over it. Same for Wharton/Sipes, hardly intentional. Two guys going for it, nothing more. It's unfortunate for both Wharton and Sipes as they've both shown flashes of speed and would definitely be the headliners if it weren't for Barcia/Wilson. Some bad racing luck has hindered them both several times this season and I hope to see them both get wins (another in #25's case) before 250E wraps up. I'll say it again, E/W shootout is going to be EPIC!!! Probably best race of Vegas weekend.

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johnny cashman wrote: 1:42pm March 28, 2011

your opinion, maybe my pic is diffrent from yours, you can see where the front tire is throwing up a little roost just b4 the jump thats what tells me its a scrub dont want to argue about it just my opinion. keller was an animal on a dirt bike and if anyone could do it it was him back in the day.

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21MotoRules wrote: 1:46pm March 28, 2011

There'd been a lot of talk here before about RV not finishing off a successful 450cc race series. To me, it looked like he was finally gonna do it this year but I think the little guy is 'snake-bit'.
Looks like JS7 crashed himself out trying the CR22 passing method on RV. Let me throw my bike in there & see what happens! Didn't work for you either huh? Oh well. If I cant win, nobody can!

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Factory 71 wrote: 2:07pm March 28, 2011

Stewart invented motocross. Just playin. Looked like two cats racing and RV squared up to get the drive to pass people in front of him. JS was committed to his line, POW. Stuff happens. I've raced A class for many years, and I think you would be surprised as to how we think of aggressive riding and takeouts. It's not as bad as most of you make it out. By the way, Sipes is right, Wharton owed him one. Sipes is a cool cat in my book. When you race pro, you know what you need to do to keep people behind you. Sometimes thats the way it plays out, so what. Like Reed at Vegas a couple years ago in the sweeper on Stewart, he definately went for a takeout. This year at Atlanta, I think that was clean. Reed cut the line, Stewart refused to give up the spot, and BAM!

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twicepipe128 wrote: 2:12pm March 28, 2011

@BillC...it was the same move in the fact that they both ended up on the ground, which doesnt help anyone (except CR22 which i love by the way)...even i know that when you run it in on the inside of someone at race speed especially the points leader some ish is going to go down. no one is going to back down this season and thats what makes it so great!...so everyone sit back and enjoy the best riders in the world duke it out!

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tomktm wrote: 2:14pm March 28, 2011

Jo-Jo definitely whiped IMO.... Magoo did as well.

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KG wrote: 2:14pm March 28, 2011

When it's all said and done, The Best will have WON.


BUT WHAT IF...

BUT IF HE HAD JUST...

BUT IF ONLY...

BUT IF HE HAD NOT...


But 'IF' Nothing..., pathetic explanations.

Stop defending riders with your lame excuses.

Hindsight is always 20/20; it doesn't matter one bit.


It's the rider who has prepared himself the best for battle...

It's the rider who makes the least amount of on-track errors...

It's the rider who manages his season with the utmost consistency...

It's the rider who is focused on what HE can do; not what OTHERS might do.


He alone will stand on top of the podium when it ends in Las Vegas.

When you crash yourself and crash others, everybody looses.

Once it goes down, it doesn't matter who's fault it was...

You prepare for the worst and you hope for the best.


It's the rider who WINs; that's all that matters here.

Just check all the record books; they silence the critics.

SUPERCROSS RACING is a MAN's SPORT of the highest order.

Finishing a moto in one-piece is the only gift anyone ever receives.


Congratulations to the winners, DEAN WILSON and RYAN DUNGEY...

The best SUPERCROSS Riders in TORONTO on Saturday, March 26, 2011.

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MxJesus wrote: 2:27pm March 28, 2011

I'll give it to you guys, Bubba perfected the scrub......and he also perfected the art of landing on people, he's proven that time after time.

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Jamin George wrote: 3:05pm March 28, 2011

Just fun fact! I saw JoJo at his first race at Waterboro Maine. I think he 13 or 14 he was riding a IT175 in the 250 novice class I'm pretty sure he won.
And for sure JS7 pulled CR22 move on RV2 and he did it perfectly.

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Lawlz wrote: 3:05pm March 28, 2011

The pass that James Stewart made on Ryan Villopoto was the same pass that Chad Reed made on James Stewart. Neither passes were dirty and the problem with the passes is that they person being passed does not let off the gas in the corner. Chad Reed and Ryan Dungey let off the gas, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto do not.

The bias is so obvious right now between James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto fans right now. "James took out Ryan and it was a dirty pass" or "Chad took out James it was a dirty pass." Same exact passes.

I will say though, Chad Reed is my favorite racer and I admit that James left more room for Ryan on his pass than Chad left for James on his pass.

James cut into Chad at Atlanta...

Ryan cut into James at Toronto...

Ryan Villopoto fans and James Stewart fans please leave your bias out of this

By the way great rides for Ryan Dungey and Chad Reed! Two classy athletes right there. I hope they finish 1st and 2nd in points this year.

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Singletrack wrote: 3:07pm March 28, 2011

My summary - I can't decide who to cheer loudest for, but Bubba is the fastest. He's exciting and innovative. And he sometimes tells it like it is. That's why he has so many fans. But a stupid gate pick ended his chances. Most holeshots (after turn 2 where it really counts) came from just left of the middle (when looking towards turn 1). That allowed for a good setup inside of turn 2. JS was far left, I assume hoping to go in fast, block the outside of turn 1, then straightline into turn 2. It would've worked, but he carried too much speed, couldn't use the rear brake and washed out the front. Not surprising.

He was catching up fast when he ran into RV (just like CR did to him). But I was surprised how his lap times were no faster than Dungey after that though. He must be hurting.

TC41 looked great in practice. I was also surprised that he couldn't make ground on RD1. Maybe RD has finally got his groove back. I still think he's only 4th or 5th fastest overall, but he's smart and not overly aggressive.

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BillC wrote: 4:00pm March 28, 2011

@Singletrack when JS got into 4th the gap was way to big so I am guessing he just took 4th. if he had a shot I am sure he would have went faster.

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BillC wrote: 4:02pm March 28, 2011

@twicepipe128, it was not the same, JS was railing the outside Reed drove in front of him, Here JS was taking the inside and RV cut down. I am fine with both but they are not the same IMO.

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BillC wrote: 4:04pm March 28, 2011

johnny cashman no problem, But I will stand by what I said, Can ya do what Jo Jo was doing on a drop of jump pinned in 4th?? Nope.

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jairtime wrote: 4:09pm March 28, 2011

I wish Bubba would scrub his teeth.

Now let's think about this for a second. Regardless of how it looked, or who you think was right or wrong. Who was in the position to take the other rider out? Who positioned himself to take the other rider out in such a way that damage to the motorcycle occurred? Who gained the benefit of the resulting crash?

There's your guilty party.

Good thing God paid him back, in advance sometimes, for all this bad karma he has been spreading since he first turned pro. I don't think God should do all the work though. Surely there are some riders out there who can be the hammer.

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trick wrote: 4:17pm March 28, 2011

There must be some pictures of jo jo doing his scrubs, so why cant anyone find them? Not the one with his front wheel pointing up, that is not a scrub. Until we see the pictures, it is only a myth.

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JMoto wrote: 4:22pm March 28, 2011

One thing is for sure, RV2 definitely owes Bubba a heaping serving of soil sample with extra dirt! ... Watch the replays without bias!

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trick wrote: 4:28pm March 28, 2011

jonny cashman/tomktm, I did google joj jo keller, and there is only ONE picture of him doing the so called "scrub". This is a very old argument. That is NOT a scrub, even though some of the captions say that it is. You are being misled.


Team Bettencourt Honda's Jojo Keller scrubbing at Southwick in 1983 on his CR125 Honda.
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Jo-Jo-Keller,105733

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mxmofo wrote: 4:34pm March 28, 2011

JMoto,, lets not forget that a lot of riders owe that to RV also....

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johnny cashman wrote: 4:35pm March 28, 2011


Bill c, No he was much faster and better than myself but at least i can say i raced with him, because of jo jo and two other guys i missed qualifying for the foxboro sx main. i know im setting myself up for old man jokes so bring it on. i think mx jesus is right bubbles perfected the scrub he didnt invent it.

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billy bob wrote: 4:45pm March 28, 2011

all you stewart fans im sorry but he is a dirty mother f er and he is not the fastests man on the planet if he was he would be way a head in the points... so screw all you ball kissers!!! go rv

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whatever wrote: 4:53pm March 28, 2011

"jairtime"....you are a complete lowlife dude!!! The shit you say and the shit you imply just makes you look like a blatant hating idiot. What's it like being a perfect human specimen like yourself??? Get some therapy!!

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keepinitreal wrote: 5:01pm March 28, 2011

Show your true colors Billy Bob, atleast Stewart has qualified for every main. What has RV done on a 450??

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keepinitreal wrote: 5:05pm March 28, 2011

Yeah now we're bringing god into this cause he totally hates blue bikes!! I"m officially done, can't take this idiot board any longer, peace out Matthes, Weege, Swiz

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People's stupidity wrote: 5:14pm March 28, 2011

Only a racing accident when Stewart does it to RV out of nowhere, but when it's Reed on the LAST LAP for the WIN it's the dirtiest move in supercross history....

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mxmofo wrote: 5:29pm March 28, 2011

People's stupidity,,, I guess I havent really read anything to that effect. Whats funnt is, thats the only way reed can pass RV and JS..

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KG wrote: 5:31pm March 28, 2011

According to the stop-watch, THE WINNER and FASTEST RIDER is the one who gets to the finish-line first by spending the least amount of time on the track, from when the gate drops until the checkered flag waives.

Fastest in Practice, in Heat Races, in an LCQ; not exactly where the 'money' is.

On Saturday night, the Fastest Man On The Planet was RYAN DUNGEY...

the week before, the Fastest Man On The Planet was TREY CANARD...

and the week before that, the FMOTP was RYAN VILLOPOTO...

and the week before that, the FMOTP was RYAN VILLOPOTO...

and the week before that, the FMOTP was RYAN VILLOPOTO...

and the week before that, the FMOTP was CHAD REED...

and the week before that, the FMOTP was TREY CANARD...

Results are all that matter once 20 laps have been run.

Actions are speaking louder than words.

Enough with the FMOTP title B.S.

Can't wait for Houston!

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BillC wrote: 5:33pm March 28, 2011

johnny cashman no old guy jokes from me LOL

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BillC wrote: 5:34pm March 28, 2011

Trick that IS the Pic that some say is a scrub. Jo Jo would do that every lap over the camel hump at Southwick.

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GWN wrote: 5:58pm March 28, 2011

JS and RV were just going for it and I don't think either intended for the other to go down. Yes neither would back off but that strategy doesn't have a very good success ratio lately when neither check up. Wharton had the line on Sipes. Had Sipes backed off for just that turn I'm confident he would have passed Wharton back before the next lap. It has been a while since having this many guys who can win. Maybe that consideration deserves more merit in the top 5's programs from now on . BTW: RD was faster than JS in the heat races and the main. Maybe a bit of both "got his groove back" and a beat up JS. Who knows, time will tell. Still anyone's championship.


BillC: I was kind of dissapointed when I left the stadium and hadn't seen anyone wearing a "GWN SUCKS" shirt. I would have bought you a beer.

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OrganDoner wrote: 6:07pm March 28, 2011

Funny to say james invented the scrub. I remember when i was sixteen years old sandbagging the novice class. After every moto my dad would chew my butt out "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO WHIP IT OVER EVERY JUMP, SAVE IT FOR THE FINISH LINE." I never made any words or technical terms for what i was doing, i just knew it was faster. James didn't invent sh!t.

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Joe Dirt wrote: 6:11pm March 28, 2011

1) Sipes expected / deserved (?) that from Wharton and said so but what was really cool of him was when he went back to check on Robbins who KO'd and ragdolled after clipping Sipes rear wheel.

2) RV for some reason squares up b4 the apex .James was carrying so much speed into that corner that 2 almost looked like he was stopped. Call it 65 / 35 RV's bad.

3) You NEC guys are hardcore no doubt but JJK crossed up , ask him

4) Best SX in years but please just 1 race when the top five are all clear. Please.

5) TGO baby !


Dirt

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OrganDoner wrote: 6:16pm March 28, 2011

Look at that pic of Jo Jo Keller. Tell me thats not a scrub technique. James is so self centered. Be modest james, your not the fastest anymore. Your like a ticking time bomb that could land on someone or hurt yourself

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motodogg wrote: 6:31pm March 28, 2011

JS7,RV and the rest of the big boys better take a second and look back in the pack. Every race or title they don't they don't win, they can say wait til next year but injuries and age starts taking its toll before they will realize it. The young dogs are hungry and coming to the front, they can sense the turmoil and the wounded ahead. They're in the middle of the sx group but the next bunch coming out of the 250 class are bred to play rough to survive. Mitch Payton, Gieco and the rest have groomed these young guns, like they did with JS7 and RC, and they ain't skeer'd of nobody and they're coming. We may not have seen the fastest man on the planet yet. Just wait til Bam Bam ,Wilson , Roczen, Sipes,Wharton and who knows who else will take the call for the big boy class , like Dungey ,a "B" class rider did, the real show will start then. SX boy's better drop the games and quit playing head games with one another. They know ,but they need to remember You are trying to beat the track itself. The other racers are just out there.

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whatever wrote: 6:31pm March 28, 2011

So apparently you're amazing ass invented the scrub at age 16 huh ORGAN?? WHATEVER!!

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Saywhat wrote: 6:40pm March 28, 2011

I just re-watched the JS, RV accident. I have to agree with GWN, RV is looking ahead going down the straight, JS, is coming up on the inside, (RV never sees him) He is busy setting up the guys in front of him, RV cuts down to get the drive on the inside to pass the two guys, that are running the corner high, and JS happens to be there. Just an accident. ....KG your BS mantras forgot the words, LUCK, talent, and speed.........

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Jumpin Joe 999 wrote: 6:48pm March 28, 2011

You guys crack me up. All of you are so passionate about this sport and believe your own opinions are the true facts. Everyone is biased towards one rider or another, that is just human nature. I am still new to this sport, just a couple of years following, but I will say that this is the best racing season ever. Without all of this drama, and the who took who out, this season would suck. Every week, I figure the race will be boring because of everything that has happened so far this year, but each week I am surprised and hungry for more. If we could bring attention to this sport and get everyone to watch it, I think it would be just as big as American Idol. Maybe that's wheat this sport needs. A reality show called American Motocrosser. I know I am addicted to this, anyone else?

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nite rider wrote: 7:18pm March 28, 2011

Is it too late to add a few more rounds to the season??? I can't believe a new story each race.Totally unpredictable! What COULD happen next?

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bd200 wrote: 7:45pm March 28, 2011

The Stewtards are defending Stewie of course, and saying Reed took out Stewie though. It was the same move almost. Stewie cut off RV2 after RV was already on it squaring off his turn. Stewie took him out, face it. YOUR boy took him down period. He is trying to cost RV points. And all he did was put his most hated rival in the points lead. Hope Reed wins it just so the Stewtards are hatin' life..

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jay277 wrote: 8:13pm March 28, 2011

speed may win some races but consistancy wins championships........GO REEDY!!!!

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johnny gixxer wrote: 8:55pm March 28, 2011

Enough of the haters already, James is hella fast and fun to watch, there's no denying!!! The Bubba crashing or potential crashing just makes this all that much more exciting. Reed is doing really well, period. RV is flying he just needs to get his mental game back. Dungey needed this win to get his confidence up. All of this adds up to one of the best supercross seasons ever. So what's there to whine about? Damn... makes me want to flog my 450 but the stinkin' snow won't melt!!!!

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T. T. MANUP wrote: 9:24pm March 28, 2011

HEY VILLOPOTO! Time to man up! Don't let "Stewart" take you out without getting some payback. Reed is not afraid of him. Why should you be?

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trick wrote: 12:21am March 29, 2011

Yeah, I know billc, that is the same old picture that everybody keeps talking about. Did he only do that once ? Why are there no more pictures of it ? It looks pretty cool what jo jo is doing, but it isn't a scrub, it cant be with the tire pointing upwards.
stewart did invent the scrub, and yes canard does it REALLY good.

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trick wrote: 12:24am March 29, 2011

In other words, if you think that you can scrub a jump, with your front wheel pointing up instead of down, then you do not understand what a scrub is in the first place.

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KG wrote: 1:50am March 29, 2011

@Saywhat-

About including "LUCK, TALENT, and SPEED" in my FMOTP description:

Those are 'given', 'understood', 'expected' possibilities in any form of racing by anyone with the least bit of knowledge.

Not sure if you're new to the sport, being candid, or just a smart-a$$

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KG wrote: 2:14am March 29, 2011

Jo Jo Keller performing an 'old school' 'Cross-up'...

the forerunner of the modern day 'scrub'.

Hasn't anybody seen ON ANY SUNDAY at least a hundred times?

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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 2:37am March 29, 2011

bd200.. Save ur breath.. Stewie has been arrested.. Another stupid action from the now the official dumbest person of the planet.
jairtime is having the time of his life!! ha,ha..
And the fantards of stewie have nothing to say now..

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trick wrote: 3:55am March 29, 2011

So which is it, james stewart or mark stewart ?
Hmmmmmnnn, I hope this is a joke !

According to the Florida Highway Patrol, 25-year-old MaArk Stewart Jr. was arrested Monday. His passenger was also arrested for tampering with evidence.
or.........

A Central Florida motocross champion whose website calls him "the Tiger Woods of supercross" was arrested Monday on a charge of impersonating a police officer, the Florida Highway Patrol said.

James "Bubba" Stewart Jr., 25, was driving a 2008 Toyota Tundra pickup northbound on State Road 417 at 4:50 p.m. when he tried to stop another vehicle using red and blue police-type lights, troopers said.


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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 4:49am March 29, 2011

trick .. No joke.. See the website, where there is a mugshot of Stewie...
He acted like a fool.. Again... Now he shud add the title as fastest & dumbest man of the planet.
He's lost it... Stupid, stupid and stupid if you ask me.
http://www.lebigusa.com/articles/james-stewart-en-prison.html
RV2 will win... Just watch the coming races.

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trick wrote: 5:08am March 29, 2011

"STEWARD, JAMES MACK, JR." ha ha I wish i could read french. Oh wait, i will use the google translator:

French to English translation
The info is part of several magazines in Florida and has spread like wildfire: James Stewart went through the box in prison for having "played" the policeman on the road.

According to the Orlando Sentinel and also the Miami Herald, which took over the info, James Stewart was yesterday driving a Toyota Tundra pick-up in Florida with a friend (who is not Eric Sorby) when they have used a false beacon police to stop a car in front of him. No luck, it was occupied by two plainclothes officers. Unmasked, James Stewart would have fled in his vehicle and was arrested with his accomplice a few hours later at the Orlando airport. The two accomplices were imprisoned at 11:08 p.m. local time on Monday. James has paid his bail and was able to regain his freedom.

What started as an April Fool before time took a more serious turn when the Vital MX record found for arrest of James on the internet. Obviously the joke has backfired and James got himself into serious trouble.

The penalty for having to impersonate a law enforcement officer in Florida is relatively severe and the Americans do not joke with this kind of crime. James can be sentenced from 1 to 5 years imprisonment (see above), the fine is $ 1,000 and sentence if convicted, will be etched permanently on his record. To this the judge will certainly add the hit and run. Suffice to say that the Stewart family will have to pay a very good lawyer.


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Didierlotsyeng wrote: 5:13am March 29, 2011

trick... Great translation.. This will silence the stewie fantards.. And hopefully this or someone (Maybe the judge? Ha,ha) will kick some sense into stewie..
Stop the bullcrap "fastest man of the planet".. More the dumbest man..
Get a team manager...
Would not be surprised if some sponsors will drop him... I would certainly.
How stupid can one be? The dumbest move was, speeding off afterwards?? Shit.. Maybe in europe.. U can get away with this shit.. But in the US??

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BillC wrote: 7:10am March 29, 2011

Wow bd200 you are such a close minded person it is scary!!

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BillC wrote: 7:11am March 29, 2011

I wonder if JS will meet the "REAL BUBBA" in jail? LOL

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MxJesus wrote: 8:30am March 29, 2011

So much for the fastest man on the planet, caught by some donut eating cops

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Snowman wrote: 10:35am March 29, 2011

THE MOMENT - as others have said the worst "moment" was all race long with the horrible audio. The bikes are WAY too loud, and the announcers cannot even be heard at all. What is the problem here? I like to hear the bikes too, but I also like to hear what the boys in the booth have to say. I can't see the entire track in TV so I rely on them to fill me in...

But with the horrible audio I have to either blast the TV until my Wife screams at me to turn it down, or I have to listen to constant bike noises and give up the announcing...

Oh yeah... and JS7 went right after RV2's front wheel. Anyone who saw different needs to watch it again. RV2 was not even on the gas, you can see the roost clearly stop a good second before JS7 hit him.... Smart move by JS7 though, he needed RV2 to fall to make up points.

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bd200 wrote: 6:25pm March 29, 2011

Sure BillC. you havent a clue you hypocrite.. You say BT101 "didnt take down Short(he did), you say Stewie didnt take down RV2, (he did). But you say Reed did take down Stewie, man, what a hypocrite, and very biased person you are. You of course will deny it, but you are a Stewie fan and biased . Just admit it.

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BillC wrote: 1:06pm March 30, 2011

I NEVER said Reed took down JS. NEVER. Find it and I will give you $1000. Put up or shuit up!! I said it was DUMB and very little chance of it working out for either one. So unless you can find it DON'T call me names. You make this crap up and then YOU believe it.

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Bill Evans wrote: 9:49pm April 3, 2011

I would like to be clear to the Johnny Cashman always bashing Stewart every week. This guy is the same guy with the racist comments to Stewarts Family in the crowd at Southwick that was very well publicized. I am no stewart fan but this guy is just blabbering all come from hate. If i didnt see it for my own eyes i would just think he is another blogger. guy is a 3 yr old stuck in an old man body.

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