10 Things to Watch For at Daytona
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PrintThis weekend the 2011 Monster Energy Supercross tour heads south to Daytona for the ninth round of Monster Engery Supercross. The 450 race and 250 race will air LIVE on SPEED on Saturday at 7:30 pm (EST), and you can count on the Racer X Online team to lead the way in live updates, Twitter reports, and videos. Here are 10 things to watch for in Daytona.
10. Setting Up: Nothing else on this circuit, or any other, really, is like Daytona. It’s not quite a sand track, it’s not quite a typical supercross track, and it’s not really an outdoor motocross style circuit anymore, either. Big changes started happening in the mid-2000s, as the track and race format began to become less motocross and more supercross. It caught people off guard—Ricky Carmichael missed the 2004 event with an injury, and when he returned in 2005 running an outdoor setup, he missed the mark and lost the race to Chad Reed. Nowadays most riders run their regular supercross setup, but even that isn’t perfect here.
9. Stepping Up: Could the fresh Florida sunshine and a little bit different atmosphere help someone new? As Steve Matthes described in Going for the W: Daytona yesterday, five riders have dominated this series in the SX Class. Who could break through this weekend? Andrew Short is on a roll. Davi Millsaps looked ready for a breakthrough in Atlanta but didn’t get it. Maybe now is the time. Justin Brayton has shown speed this year. And Kevin Windham has won this race before. Is there room for any of these riders on the podium?
Can Short break up the party of five.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
8. RC’s Track: Carmichael eventually figured out Daytona again and won it in 2006, although James Stewart was leading and then crashed spectacularly. Nowadays RC helps design the course, and you can bet he’s brought in a little bit of that old-school outdoor flavor. We’re also hearing lap times will go over the minute mark, longer than a regular indoor SX, but still shorter than Daytona back in the day. And this track features supercross obstacles, unlike most outdoor tracks. Even with RC at the helm, it’s a mix, but you can bet he’ll make it tough.
7. Barcia’s Wrist: Bam Bam won Houston, then crashed in Atlanta practice and hurt his wrist. He soldiered on to net second last weekend with a wrist brace on, but will he be healed up enough to handle a longer, rougher main event here? If not, he could be handing over major championship points.
6. Once You Win the First…: The rest are supposed to come easy. Dean Wilson has broken through, and his outdoor success last year showed that he can use his lanky frame to suck up the big bumps and develop some speed on the rough stuff. On Daytona’s fast, whooped-out sections, he’ll be tough. And if he wins two in a row, the series could be his for the taking.
Can Wilson make it two in a row at Daytona?
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
5. Waiting for Dungey...Still: No wins yet for the champ, but he’s not too far out of the points race when you consider A): he derailed a chain and lost at least 15 points in Anaheim, and B): With the top five so close, he could easily win a race and see the points leader (Villopoto in this case) take fifth, which would net him a nine-point gain. He’s 26 back right now. We know he’s fit and he does work in Florida. The only problem is, so does everyone else!
4. Villo Show: You can make a pretty good case that Ryan Villopoto was the fastest rider through the month of January, as his Anaheim 1 and Los Angeles wins, and his challenge to Stewart in Phoenix, were all impressive. February wasn’t quite the same, though, and while he scored a win last weekend, he needed that epic Stewart/Reed crash to do it. And his ten point lead looks good, but points will be gained and lost quickly with this deep field. Can RV reestablish himself this weekend?
The battle continues.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
3. Bike Week: There’s much, much more than just a supercross going on this week. Daytona is nuts, Daytona is crazy, and even if you try to just get to and from the speedway for the races, you won’t be able to ignore the mega Harley crowd. If you have a day (or night), dive in.
2. Bike Week: And if you’re not there to party, maybe you like the racing. Every major AMA Series will compete during Bike Week, including Superbikes, Flat Track, RCU and the GNCC down the road on Tuesday. Expand your boundaries. The racing is good everywhere down here.
1. Stewart/Reed: It’s the elephant in the room. Chad Reed definitely wanted to keep the peace between himself and James Stewart after last week’s run in—he even told us he hoped they could maintain their new friendship. Stewart kept saying it was just racing, even though he was obviously mad. So, they’ll come to this race trying to put it all behind them. But can they?
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Stepping Up: Could the fresh Florida sunshine and a little bit different atmosphere help someone new? As Steve Matthes described in Going for the W: Daytona yesterday, five riders have dominated this series in the SX Class. Who could break through this weekend? Andrew Short is on a roll. Davi Millsaps looked ready for a breakthrough in Atlanta but didn’t get it. Maybe now is the time. Justin Brayton has shown speed this year. And Kevin Windham has won this race before. Is there room for any of these riders on the podium?....
.NO!!!
I will take Wilson in the lites.
What about Roczen? Isn't he still planning on racing Daytona? He is definitely something to watch for!
30 hrs ta go.................. I am starting to think RV....Or JS..... Somthing tells me they will be the fastest but will that = a win........
Roczen is in and with a good start could run to 5 I say.
It's gunna be awesome! One of my favorite SX locations. Last year RV sprinted away early and took the win but RD was almost on pace I think. Should be close between the top 5 and maybe more. Who knows!? Braaaap
Podium?..
Davi Millsaps possibly..
Kevin Windham, if others go down...
Andrew Short, come on.. use your sense man! This guy will never reach the podium again. Ever.
For sure Wilsons smooth style and speed will soak up the beach easy...if he gets the start he is gon.
450's who the hell knows? I think the dirt at daytona is going to help Stewarts front end traction...look closly at the hard-packed and slick rounds we have had so far and he can't cut smooth archs through the turns..he has to check up and pivot low...ATL was a perfect example of this. I know this feeling because I ride an 11" YZ 450 and it has a weird feeling on corner entrance.
Reeds Honda looks to be the most Dialed in on the hardpack. Dungeys zook looks good too but he needs to ask the man upstairs for a bigger set of nuts...
Basically I am saying that a chopped out track like this with differing dirt in sections is going to take the set up of the bike out of the picture for the most part and reward the rider who wants it most with the win... and we have five riders who want it real bad!!
it is going to be good!
Anyway enough with my rant...
Billy, I think Roczen will do better than that. I'm thinking that will be one of the few great tracks for 3 - fiddy..
i Love chad reed
Is Reed & Stewart racing outdoors anyone???.....I hope they can clear the air and just race the crap out of ea. other!!
450
-RV
-JS
-Reed
250
-Bam-Bam
-Wilson
-Roczen?????
i love chad so much!
It is anyones guess who will win or even podium. I think sadly the start will mean everything. Its so hard to pass and the top 5 or so close in speed it takes a miracle to catch up if you get caught in a first turn pile-up. I dont really care who wins really, just want to see some close racing with the top guys.
james is going to try the first 4 outdoors and see how those go ill ask reed hes busy right now
@The What..... "i know this feeling because I ride a 11" YZ 450" hahaha I doubt your bike feels anything like stewart does with his 30k suspension...
Kyle,
Roczen will be in the 450s.
best season ever!
No one can even dream of matching RV on a course like this one. Even chunky RV of a couple years past, could beat these guys outdoors, now he's fit and faster than ever. RV by over 30 seconds in the main. Stamp it!
Four Bears,, RV is fast, but thats streching it a little..
STEWIE WILL WIN!!!! REED HAS HIM ON TILT!!!!! PAYBACK!!
No way! Stewart will ram Reed, probably on the first lap. Then their little honeymoon will be OOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRR !!!!!
You guys can take all the favorites....this is Canard's track and his win...I predict Dungey pulls the holey and puts the Zook on the podium. All in the start...Stewart and Reed will be screwing with each other, and RV will get a bad start and be buried in the pack, while Nard dog and Big D run away.
You can all come worshiping me later.
Here are the results, the top 2 from tomorrow night.
I know the future so you guys are lucky that I'm sharing this with you.
Villopoto - 1
Wilson - 1
steady5::: dont hate on short hes a good guy!!
Stewie gonna smoke everyone. Including RV. Anyone remember that his last outdoor series he won every race? I also remember RV getting worked a few times in his outdoor hay day. Stewies record speaks for itself. It's only a matter of time before he goes back to his roots. He's milkin it, creating hype making the fans happy. Pretty soon he's going to flip the switch and make these other contenders look like they don't belong. Just like him and RC did back in the day.
We have not seen villopoto and stewart on an outdoor track, at the same time, yet.
Where do people get the idea that villopoto is faster? What exactly are you going on here? personality-wise i like villopoto the best, but i dont think he will be faster than stewart outdoors. Get your butt out there stewart, so we can see where you and rv stack up (dungey too). Im pretty sure stewart can find more speed than at unadilla, last year. it could be the greatest summer ever. give the fans what they want stewart, and do the whole damn series, you can afford it.
OUTDOORS is REAL motocross. Real motocrossers race OUTDOORS.
I like and pick Villipoto this weekend...HOWEVER...how 'bout the video of Reed with his own Daytona type track?? Reed will be tough, Stewart will be CRAZY mad / fast, Dungey will be, well, solid, and Villipoto will be fast as always...especially at Daytona. It's gonna be awsome baby!!!!!
I think Alessi is due! Believe the hype! Winner! Tiger blood!
First off, i like ryan villopoto, he is my favorite rider, personality-wise, and I am not 'swinging on stewies nutsack', just providing the cold, hard facts.
For those who think villopoto was more dominant in the lites class outdoors, than stewart.
villopoto won 19 races out of a possible 36, which is 52%. In season #2, he only won 5 out of 12 (against townley).
He raced against canard, townley, and dungey, his biggest challengers.
(and of course, no one will ever forget his mxon o/a, on a 250f)
stewart won 29 races out of a possible 36, which is 80%. In season #1, he lost once to reed, when he crashed hard in practice, and got 6th in moto 1, and dnf'd moto 2, still hurting from the crash. He also lost to kelly smith, when his kx125 had a mechanical problem and dnf'd, then he won the second moto. In season 2, he won every race he entered (he missed the first 4, due to injury suffered in the vegas sx final, which was the week before the outdoors started), and in season 3, he only lost one moto, when his kx fried its clutch in the unadilla mud, bringing his bid for a 29th consecutive moto win, to a halt.
He raced against reed, brown jesseman, langston, preston, millsaps, tedesco, who all have at least a regional sx title, and one was a world champ (like townley).
On the big bikes, villopoto has one outdoor race under his belt so far, which he won, going 1-1 against alessi.
stewart has a full season, battling against the greatest of all time, bar to bar, even beating him a few times. He was dominating in 2007, when he wrecked his knee. he also has that 24-0 in 2008, which also was against alessi. That is around 30 races, on the big bike outdoors.
stewart has raced in 4 outdoor seasons, so far. one was on a 250 2-stroke, against r/c on a 450 4-stroke (kawasaki did not have a 450f for him to ride yet). one was against ricky on equal bikes. one was the 24-0 against alessi. one he was leading and hurt his knee (langston won it).
I do not understand why some people think stewart sucks outdoors, and villopoto is the shit.
I like villopoto, he is fast as hell, but i dont think he will beat stewart outdoors.
here is a u tube of stewart, in his first race back from the broken collarbone, suffered at 2002 vegas. He missed the first four rounds, this is budds creek round five. This is where the 'bad blood' originated between him and tedesco.
http://letgame.net/video/fZHk_PI3bTk/2003-budds-creek-125cc-moto-2-part-1.html
http://letgame.net/video/96jQZPHSjVU/2003-budds-creek-125cc-moto-2-part-2.html
I know 1 thing- way too much beer, 50" HD with booming speakers and live daytona SX with a stacked field = ya-hooooo! stocking up right now
Really, whoever came up with the idea (a few years ago) of racing Daytona at night like any other SX shoulda shut the ***** up! They just ruined it. Daytona's always been unique because of two things...it's a mix of SX /MX and it was always raced during daylight! We have all of the other races at night and that's good enough. One last complain, what's the hell up with them race tracks being designed so short? I realize them guys are faster nowadays, but goddamm, lap times should never be less than one minute (and close to two min at Daytona), period! We're watching friggin' 14-15-minute main events. This is not arenacross...They can easily make it a little longer by including a few technical sections that make it a bit slower. The retarded rhythm sections really suck! Anyway, we should all complain to the AMA to make them tracks with longer lap times like they used to be when real men raced...
I think the rider in the SX class with lowest average lap time at the end of the race will probably be the winner. This could also happen in the lites too? Any thoughts? I know there are many motorcross experts on here.
Villopoto had way more competition on his lights titles. He beat Langston and Townley. 2 world champs and 1 national champion. Who did stewart beat? Reed who couldn't ride outdoors at all at the time? When stewart and rv were at Kawi RV had faster laptimes on his 250 then stewart on his 450 At several tracks. When stewart won all the outdoors and went undefeated how many outdoor champions did he beat???
Hurry up Daytona!
Correction to my previous post: Langston was still there, for villopoto's first lites outdoor season, but finished 25th, and i cant find the info of why. He may have been running some 450 races, as he prepared to move up in 2007. Also that season, alessi was leading the lites points chase, after 9 rounds.
I also said "stewart won 29 races out of a possible 36, which is 80%."
i should have said "stewart won 29 races out of a possible 35, which is 83%", because that season only had 11 rounds (kenworthy was cancelled due to bad weather)
I think Stewart had near the competition as RV2 did. Dungey and Canard were also there and are now Champs that RV beat. So who was fast in 02 -04 in 125cc outdoors? Roncada? Any national or world champs? Any would be champs? He did it on a 125 which was cool. He probably could have done it on an 85cc. All the fast guys were on the big bikes. This is what I remember of 2002. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4NO6J8-xPs
Here's my prediction for the Daytona Supercross:
Villopoto will holeshot, but JS will stuff him and they will flail and swap all over the place coming out of the first turn. While they're trying to re-group with both legs dangling, Reed will pass them both. The over-amped Stewart will execute a "stuff of opportunity" payback for last week (which was Reed's payback of Stewart stuffing him into a lapper), but Reed will barely be affected because his wheels will be deeply embedded in a tall, soft berm and he will lift his leg. Still carrying momentum, Reed will be set up for the next turn, where he will unceremoniously clean Stewart's front end out so hard that it snaps both triple clamps on opposite sides - the top left clamp and the bottom right clamp - and the whole front end will helicopter/cartwheel across the paved Daytona track, twanging up over the fence and into the grandstands, impaling a beer-gutted Hardly Ableson rider 22 rows from the fence right in the chest, the front knobby blubbering his lips with a rapidly rotating sand tread pattern. Villopoto will stuff Reed just for the hell of it, check out and win by 17 seconds. It will be revealed that Villopoto's front brake was rendered inoperable early on the first lap due to flying Yamaha parts. The entire racing community will wonder what he will do with two working brakes.
Go Ryan Villopoto!
mxjoe99, villopoto only raced langston in his first lites season, in 2006, langston finished 25th, and was not a factor at all.
Stewart did not beat any ama outdoor champs, when he went 24-0 in 2008.
Carmichael had 2 perfect seasons, 2002 and 2004, and he did not beat any ama outdoor champions either, except Larocco, who had 2 national titles, but that was 8 years earlier. larocco was 31 years old against r/c.
"So who was fast in 02 -04 in 125cc outdoors? "
He raced against reed, brown, jesseman, langston, preston, millsaps, tedesco, who all have at least a regional sx title, and one was a world champ (like townley).
Also, hepler, roncada, and fonseca.
I gotta say, analysis of what Stewart did in 2002 outdoors certainly has a ton of bearing on 2011 Daytona. I just can't wait until the outdoors start and see how Stewart does those first 4 rounds. Something tells me no one will be questioning RV outdoors after that.
mxjoe99, canard was only there against villopoto for the 3rd season, and came in 10th.
Dungey was a 'top 5 guy' for the 2nd and 3rd of villopoto's seasons, up until villopoto's last few outdoor races on the lites bike, when dungey upped his game, but still finished 72 pts behind villopoto,
BKR, you need to read the whole thread to understand what we are talking about, and you will see that is does have bearing.
its much more than an... "analysis of what Stewart did in 2002 outdoors"
And also, David Pingree raced against stewart, in stewart's second 125 outdoor series (i'm not sure if he did, for the first series though). I heard pingree was pretty good, almost winning a regional title himself.
here are some other regional champions that stewart raced against in the 125 outdoors. nathan ramsey, stephane roncada, and fonseca.
In stewart's 3 125 outdoor seasons, he raced against 10 riders who had regional sx titles, and some had outdoor titles as well, (and langstons outdoor and world title).
villopoto had j-law, dungey, canard, townley (for one season), and weimer.
Can you think of any more who got a title?
Daytona SX Class:
1) Reed
2) Stewart
3)Villopoto
4) Dungey
5)Canard
6)Whindham
7)Short
All we need is some cole slaw wrestling between the finish line double!!! Watch out for Windham at this one!
East Lites. If Durham's foot is healed we might see something.
Noitces wals eloc a tuoba woh?
Hey now nobody forget Ricky Deitrich! Dude has some serious wheels, he's looking for a top 5 in the outdoor season. His off-road, endurance, and outdoor skills are going to help him here. He may be only racing just Daytona SX, but he is going to be a weapon.
yup, I'm up late. I drank way too much pepsi.
In Villopoto's one and only outdoor race, he had to deal with mike alessi .
This summer, he will still have to deal with alessi, plus stewart, reed, dungey, canard, pourcel, weimer and i think (some fast euro, i cant remember who, roczen-caroili-desalle-musqvin?)
And, maybe stroupe too.
He's gonna destroy everyone, huh?
If he does, i will be VERY impressed.
And, if he doesn't, I will still like him just as much, anyways.
I agree SmartypantS ! A cole slaw section would be fun ! LOL !
mxjoe99, that is an awesome u tube, never saw that race before. It is comical, you cant help but laugh. He must have been drunk or something. That first regional series didn't go too good for him, he was only 16. He just KEEPS FALLING DOWN. LOL ! He did get into it with tedesco too, and then tedesco smacks his head. Maybe that is why stewart made that bonzai pass on him, at budds creek, in the u tube video that I posted up above^. .
Good stuff !
Don;t count out PJ Larsen on the KTM
He just came back from down under where he won the outdoors and the supercross titles back to back
This could be his breakout race after all he grew up in the southeast racing outdoors in this type of sandy dirt
JMHO
Actually Trick, in RV's one outdoor 450 race there was also Grant and Reed. Don't forget to include how badly RV destroyed them at that race. Reed went on to win the title that year, and Grant won a moto after Poto was out. If RV hadn't gotten hurt, we would have seen a severe beating for everyone that year. I think you'll be very impressed come outdoors this year. What's funny is go check out who Stewart had to deal with in his perfect outdoor season. His main competition? Mike Alessi.
@trick, since you are bust stating facts, how many 250 class titles does Stewie have and how many does RV2 have. Championships are what matters.
I read further up and see you actually like RV? I understand you arguing against those that say Stewart sucks outdoors, that isn't true. But for some reason you appear to be campaigning why RV can't beat Stewart outdoors in 2011. Bringing regional SX winners into an outdoor argument as competition doesn't fly. MC himself raced the 125 Nationals after dominating 250 SX in 1993 and got his ass handed to him by Henry, Emig, and others. So you can't use 125 SX titles in an outdoor comparison. The interesting part about the win % is that Stewart wins 83% of the races in 3 years and only takes 2 titles. That is pretty hard to do! Anyway, I think it is now pretty clear this year that this isn't Stewart of 2008-2009. That Stewart most likely wins every race so far this year. He hasn't raced outdoors since 2008. For the record, Alessi isn't running 2nd anymore like he did then, in fact he diced with Stewart at Unadilla last year over 11th place. Right now I'm looking at an RV that is killing it in SX, and he has always been WAY better outdoors. The fact that he raced 3 years in the Lites SX and only has 1 title while he has 3 MX titles in the same years pretty much tells that tale.
For the first time in many years it is not a foregone conclusion who will win these things.
Mechanical failures, crashes, 5 guys with very close speed, and multiple winners already.
DAMN! SX is exciting again.
For the first time in many years it is not a foregone conclusion who will win these things.
Mechanical failures, crashes, 5 guys with very close speed, and multiple winners already.
DAMN! SX is exciting again.
I think that you can safely say that the toughest competition any "lites" (250F) rider has had, or will is the MXoN. They compete against the worlds fastest 450F racers, including the USAs.
1:1 in a dominating fashion by RV (including RC) should be considered when discussing outdoor speed.
Oh, remember Hangtown when RV cam from 19 sec back to pt it to Alessi?
B-KR and BD200 I see your points but You can't put it all on Championships either when you talk about someones speed or there shot at a title IMO. So much goes into a title, JS and RV have both missed a few races or they might have more titles. Like wise I don't think its fair to count anyone out by saying they get hurt and wont finish. Both guys have proved they can win championships and are VERY fast inside and out. Another point on this if you just look at titles, How is RD's title doing for him this year. See it does not mater how many you have when you are just talking about who has the best shot at the next one.
Dungey was lucky everyone else hurt last year. He is far off everyobe elses pace.
I like both JS and RV! Top reasons JS won't ride the whole outdoors?
1 He will never pass RC in outdoor championships.
2 He wants another summer off?
3 Wants to hang out with #100 comparing CRIBS and making movies?
4 He doesn't have the fitness to hang for 35 min?
5. RV will be there?
BD200 and BKR, If you read my posts, you can see that I have not expressed any opinions, only publishing the facts that i have researched. I didn't say rv cant beat stewart outdoors. I only said that I dont understand why some other people think he will, thats all. Why do you feel that way, is all i am asking? If you say you like rv and you want him to win, ok ! But saying that you know he will win?
Villopoto won 52% of his '250 races', while stewart won 83% of his '250 races.
Villopot was WAY more dominant. After all, "championships are the only thing that matter" Langston has 3 major championships (125 outdoor, 450 outdoor, 125 world, not to mention TWO regional sx titles). Kevin windham has NEVER won a championship or regional title, since turning pro. Is langston faster than windham? I remember k-dub beating r/c and reed, and battling with them throughout his career. How many time was langston battling with them? BUT " championships are the ONLY thing that matter".
I hate cut-n-pasting my own posts on the same thread, didn't you read it the first time? Why are you arguing with me.
Stewart did not beat any ama outdoor champs, when he went 24-0 in 2008.
Carmichael had 2 perfect seasons, 2002 and 2004, and he did not beat any ama outdoor champions either, except LaRocco, who had 2 national titles, but that was 8 years earlier. larocco was 31 years old against r/c.
your comment: ' What's funny is go check out who Stewart had to deal with in his perfect outdoor season. His main competition? Mike Alessi.'
my comment: in RV's one outdoor 450 race, who came in second? Mike Alessi !
In fact, Alessi won the next 2 overalls, before he hurt HIS knee. And grant is not a factor in ANY championship season, since he spends as much time in plaster, as townley and helpler.
And the only time motocross fans say that regional titles 'dont count' is when referring to r/c's record. Should mitch payton take all of those silly number one plates off of his pro circuit doors, after all they mean absolutely nothing, right? If they mean nothing, then why do people still care about winning them???
Even a regional title is a championship, it means that you were better than all of the other guys. Trey canard ran villopoto into a metal pole, just to win a meaningless championship, didn't he?
Is a guy who has won a regional title, held in the same regard, as a guy who rarely even makes the top ten?
Also, Rv has missed 3 out of his 4, '450 seasons' already, due to injuries, so for now, dont say he is more successful than stewart has been.
I hope villopoto does battle with stewart, that is what we all want to see, but based on all of the facts i have typed in here, it doesnt look probable, all things considered. Go back and read all my posts, which i did not put there for you, but for the newer fans, who are 'historically challenged'. For you guys, its just your dislike of stewart, and i dont care about that, that is your business. I just want to see some good racing.
Billc has a great point also. Why is dungey not beating everyone, when he won all those titles in the last 2 years?? it doesn't make sense does it?
i do enjoy "bench racing" with you guys, i just dont want to ARGUE about it.
Also BKR, villopoto has only raced one 'outdoor 450' race since 2008, himself, same as stewart (his only outdoor race, was may 2009).
And, what about stewarts unadilla race? That one doesn't count now? When we are talking about stewarts riding skills , it counts, according to some people on here. He got his butt kicked. but at least it was track time. Why didn't villopoto come out and race it too? Because he was smart enough to stay home and watch it on tv, thats why !
Lots of arguemnts are because people don't read the hole post trick.
On a side note JS was fastest firts practic, with a 1:16:341 Reed 1:16:613, RV 1:17:123 RD 1:17:276 TC 1:17:794 NICE long LAPS!!!
OH Yeah Short is close with a 1:18:049 then Milsaps at 1:18:168
Short? Are you kidding? You know that scene in Glengarry Glen Ross where Alec Baldwin is telling Ed Harris "Nice guy? I don't give a s*&t. Good father? Go home and play with your kids." Andrew Short is Ed Harris! Alec Baldwin is Stewie, Reed, or Vilo. Would Andrew pull a move like the move Reed pulled last weekend? No and that's his problem.
Podium:
1. Stewart
2. Vilo
3. Reed
Case closed. And yes, coffee is for closers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI
Another interesting point:
Stewarts luck is not on the same level as r/c (I am not saying that r/c lucked into any of his titles, that is not what i am saying here, so dont argue with me about it)
For stewart, a rock rolls in front of his front tire, taking him out, costing him a championship. His motor locks up, while flying off a downhill jump, spitting him over the bars, resulting in a huge crash, causing him to miss 2 rounds. his team does not have a 450 4-stroke, for his 450 debut, even if he wanted one. His collarbone injury, which cost him his second 125 outdoor title, happens at the sx finale, a week before outdoors, in a race that means absolutely nothing. His 4-stroke stalls after a fall, and will not start until after the race is over, causing him to lose 25 points, and a shot at the title.
For Carmichael, he swaps in a whoop section, flies off the track at speed, and just misses a mastercraft boat by mere inches. He crashes hard in the final round of the 2006 outdoors, and injures his shoulder, after he has sewn up the title a few weeks before. What if it had happened a few weeks earlier? What if that had happened at the sx finale? or what if stewarts happened at the last outdoor? he cuts the track at one race, in the tightest series in history, and it goes un-noticed, although another rider was penalized for doing the same thing. he incurs a fuel infraction from the ama, and no points are deducted, although all of the others, have had point deductions, for fuel infractions. His RM450Z breaks a flywheel, and dnf's, at the us open in 2005, a meaningless race. What if that had happened in summer 2006? Hmmmmmm. Pretty lucky guy !
R/c once said, "you make your own luck".
not only was he the best at winning championships, he was the best at making his own luck. That is why he is the GOAT.
Same as RV and RD last year trick, RV carwheels his bike the pipe gets pluged wont start get 19th, RD cartwheels his it never stalls he lands from 15 feet up runs to his bike and get 4th.
That is the only time i ever saw RV have bad luck though, billc. i'm not sure if the st. louis crash was bad luck, or a mistake on his part.
and dungey just lost a chain, with mike gosselar as his mechanic ! How many chains did r/c lose in 6 years, with gosselar? see my point? R/c has a rabbits foot in his pocket.
what goes around comes around stewart put that auusie two-two balerina what ever the hell you want to call him, i thinking a b@@%$ on his ass. you might want to make look as intentional as reed did. reed lets be friends crap, thier no friends in racing.