by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: Atlanta
Tuesday, March 1, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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PrintRound eight of Monster Energy Supercross from Atlanta was...we'll let's just say the dirty south lived up to the billing! The James Stewart-Chad Reed rivalry is back in full force after a short hiatus, and Ryan Villopoto left Atlanta like he had just stole something...oh he did, a win. But enough about the race, onto the lap charts, brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 4 |
46.752 |
8 |
48.302 |
James Stewart |
| 2 |
3 |
47.135 |
8 |
48.275 |
Chad Reed |
| 3 | 1 |
47.207 |
6 |
47.896 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 4 | 2 |
47.425 |
10 |
48.049 |
Ryan Dungey |
| 5 | 5 |
47.570 |
3 |
49.013 |
Trey Canard |
| 6 | 6 |
47.979 |
7 |
48.858 |
Andrew Short |
| 7 | 7 |
48.054 |
6 |
49.151 |
Justin Brayton |
| 8 |
9 |
48.092 |
8 |
49.326 |
Ivan Tedesco |
| 9 | 8 |
48.240 |
6 |
49.406 |
Kevin Windham |
| 10 | 11 |
48.671 |
5 |
49.874 |
Davi Millsaps |
| 11 | 10 |
48.898 |
9 |
49.720 |
Brett Metcalfe |
| 12 | 18 |
48.971 |
6 |
51.503 |
Mike Alessi |
| 13 | 12 |
48.975 |
5 |
50.087 |
Nick Wey |
| 14 | 13 |
49.408 |
7 |
50.405 |
Kyle Regal |
| 15 | 14 |
49.486 |
3 |
50.709 |
Chris Blose |
| 16 | 16 |
49.532 |
9 |
50.809 |
Matt Boni |
| 17 | 17 |
49.668 |
7 |
50.984 |
Fabien Izoird |
| 18 | 15 |
49.690 |
5 |
50.861 |
Tye Simmonds |
| 19 | 19 |
50.468 |
6 |
54.622 |
Antonio Balbi |
| 20 | 20 |
50.728 |
4 |
54.895 |
Kyle Partridge |
Stewart reclaimed his throne on top of the lap charts with a blistering 46.752 on lap eight. Although Stewart left Atlanta without victory, he can take solace in being the Fastest Man on the Lap Charts.
Villopoto was handed a gift when Stewart and Reed "got together".
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
The toughest rider of the night award goes to Brett Metcalfe. In case you missed it Metcalfe had a horrendous crash through the whoops in his heat race that left the Aussi with a little more that a slight bruise. Well Metcalfe gritted out a tough LCQ battle with Michael Byrne and still managed to place inside the top ten (10th). He only set the eleventh fastest lap of the night with a 48.898, but his gritty ride in the dirty dirty had to be mentioned.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
48.355 |
9 |
49.152 |
Dean Wilson |
| 2 | 9 |
48.543 |
12 |
50.944 | Jason Anderson |
| 3 | 2 |
48.606 | 3 |
49.497 |
Justin Barcia |
| 4 | 5 |
48.613 | 9 |
50.475 |
Ryan Sipes |
| 5 |
3 |
48.705 |
5 | 49.485 | Blake Baggett |
| 6 | 4 |
48.791 |
3 |
50.242 |
|
| 7 | 8 |
49.091 |
11 |
50.387 |
Malcolm Stewart |
| 8 | 11 |
49.465 |
6 |
51.726 |
Lance Vincent |
| 9 | 6 |
49.488 |
5 |
50.467 |
Hunter Hewitt |
| 10 | 10 |
49.498 |
6 | 51.315 |
Matt Lemoine |
| 11 | 7 |
49.586 |
4 |
50.616 | PJ Larsen |
| 12 | 12 |
49.933 |
7 | 52.304 |
Alex Martin |
| 13 | 13 |
50.764 | 9 |
52.625 |
Justin Sipes |
| 14 | 20 |
51.297 |
8 |
52.132 | Killy Rusk |
| 15 | 19 |
51.475 | 4 | 54.436 | Vernon Mckiddie |
| 16 | 15 |
51.856 | 3 | 52.949 | Bradley Ripple |
| 17 | 14 |
52.164 | 7 | 53.156 | Levi Kilbarger |
| 18 | 18 | 52.296 | 8 | 54.620 | Nick Myers |
| 19 | 17 | 52.452 | 4 | 54.774 | Sean Lipanovich |
| 20 | 16 | 52.817 | 10 | 54.639 | Michael Akaydin |
Dean Wilson captured his first career SX Lites victory in Atlanta and by doing so helped Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki achieve a milestone--their 200th win. Congrats to Wilson and the entire Pro Circuit squad. Job well done. Wilson also set the fastest lap of the night with a 48.355 on lap nine.
Wilson set the fastest lap of the night en route to his first career SX victory.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Rockstar Energy Suzuki's Jason Anderson is lurking in the shadows just waiting to prove he can run with the top guys. After a spectacular amateur career, Anderson has gotten off to a rather tame start to his professional career, which is expected out of a rookie in his first two races. But after setting the second fastest lap of the night in Atlanta, I think Anderson will be closer to the front of the pack, sooner rather than later.
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The Average Lap Time Column is Great ! That is what counts !
It was clear who was fastest (both classes) after the heats...one race ended as it should have the other didn't. I'll leave the opinions as to which race ended as it should have up for debate...
Wow, Short's times are really good. He should be happy about that. Down in the 47's with the top riders. I think he's found out how to extract the full potential of that 350.
Fastest Man on the Lap Charts....you goons will look for anything to use that played out name.
Man you're right, Metty is one tough guy! I couldn't believe he even got up after that hit. Way to gut it out Metty!
This just confirms what I always believed in RV's race pace.. he was riding his hats off the entire 20 laps.. And see.. He has best average lap times...
Someone correct me.. I believe RV has been posting the most of best averag lap times this season thus far!!
Screw the best lap times... Average lap times is the real indicator.
News flash........the winner will always have the lowest AVERAGE lap times. It's basic math.
Wow, RV's average lap time was better than Stewart and Reed's by a half second. Also, go Jason Anderson! Represent New Mexico!
Ripdown 22, Not always, the first lap is most often not figured in the avg. And the start is not included. It has happened a couple times this year where the winner did not have the fastest avg.
Hey Chase you may be the only other person than me that studies the lap times, lap charts and stuff more tham I do. you do as good job. there is a lot to figure out what is going on in the races ya gotta look at times, what lap and whrn the lappers are there. One thing that is sure is that winning practice deos not win races, but it helps.
Before you jump on the best average lap time bandwagon for RV2 remember that JS and CRs averages include a 58 a piece on the final lap. Their laptimes were concistantly faster than RVs especially in the last half of the race where Ryan struggled to get below a 48 and James and Chad were still doing 47s.
News flash....... that's incorrect.
RV's average lap was better because JS & CR were on the ground in the last lap. The Last lap JS ran a 59.468 when he was steady in the 47s even dropping into the the 46s most of the night. I'm not saying RV did not have great lap times, but lets not get ahead of our self with this RV had a better average lap time then JS. Wile it is true. There is a clear reason why. RV did not out ride James or Chad.
Its all right here: http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/08/sxm1ind.pdf
Didierlotsyeng,,, please tell me you are not that dumb ???
Villopoto had 6 laps that were faster than JS7 and 10 laps that were faster than CR22.
average lap time if done right should be the time it takes to get from start to finish, divided by twenty. Third grade math right there...
The only difference is if they are not counting the first lap
theres no other argument...RV made it to the finish line before everyone, therefore his average time is the quickest
The average lap times is a good indicator, but this week lets not forget that Reed And Stewie were on the ground and trying to get going for several seconds there. If someone didnt see the race and saw the averages, they would say , yes that explains it, but its a little misleading here. RV wasnt the fastest at Atlanta, he was fortunate. He did put himself in a good position, but he wasnt the fastest this week. I wonder how close they would have been if you eliminate the lap were those two crashed??
it's hard to argue that. Stay off the ground and win. Consistency is key. Keep up your pace and don't ride over your head, so YES this chart does speak alot. 2 full seconds betwen your best lap and your average means you either take a lap off every now and then...or you're spending time laying on the dirt.
You gotta be kidding me, it dosen't include the start always and most of the time not the first lap either. That depends on where the finish line (transponder) is located on the track. I know it's a little weird.
The reason why villopoto had better laps is because James and chad were slowing each other down.. and im sure that last lap lowered the average by a lot. I am a huge fan of villopoto but i don't get why he kept saying that he was riding smart. He wasn't riding smart, he was just riding trying to catch up.....
i think he was just saying that the pass reed made on Stewart or the( intentional take down) by reed was a stupid idea. ha ha reed set the fastest in the race so What!!!!!
I think it was Stewarts choice after chad put it to him as a dirty block pass....Stewart would have bean better off if he let chad by and get second..Chad would have bean better of gettin second over third(and not making a pass),, but what do you do haha its a gamble and reed was gambling with that move and so was Stewart....
as we know Stewart has never bean known to just let of the gas haha!
that does make sense because they had the finish line jump halfway through the track so they probably didn't start timing until after that...
Im glad to see the Ryans steal a first and second here but they didn't have anything for james or chad...those two were haulin
I don't know how he does it but chad finds a way to be fast all the time...even though he was a little out matched tonight and had to take extreme measures...he was still faster than the two kids everyone thought might dominate
I think as long as Reed and Villopoto refuse to give into James this championship could get really close all the way to Vegas. Even Canard and Dungey still have a good chance to pull it off. The season is still not half way over yet!!!!! If Villopoto makes a mistake, let's say a 10pt mistake, there could be 5 guys all within 15-20 points. Let's see what happens at Daytona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm having fun!!!!!!!!!! Love the aggression!!!!
LINKIN - JS had the quickest single lap..RV had best average lap... Your just saying Reed had a better average lap than James? ... Maybe that .00 whatever it is Reed had better than James was from when Reed cut the track while riding the tough blocks before the finish??? HA HA (totally joking)......
All that "Alessi is picking up the pace" last week was a crock.....way off the pace buddy...
I forget, did RV start the race in 3rd pretty much or did he have to pass some guys before settling in 3rd.....Dungey appeared to lose some spots the first lap from what I recall...
mxmofo... I hope not.. If not, I must be doing a lousy job and VW will fire me on the spot.. He,he.
I get the point of BD200.. Not counting the crash... Times would be different... But I reckon, looking at the average lap times, bears more significance than the fastest lap times. Shows a degree of consisitency no?
@ trend killer, RV was 4th behind Canard until he (TC) wrecked on the 4th lap. He stayed in third till the last lap.
@ Trend Killer, same story for Dungey 5th till canard wrecked then 4th till last lap.
Sorry dum-dum DJames30, then your blame should go to Ralph Shaheen, GOON !!!!!
Why are people bashing Villopoto for saying he rode smart? The bottom line is he had nothing for them and knew it, rode a safe fast pace all on his own in third, and ended up with the win. That is called riding smart with a bit of luck. You seem to forget he was not that far behind the top 2 and he did what champions do. He put himself in a good position when he didn't have his A game for the leaders that night, he was safe, smooth and consistent (lap times agree with this), and he was close enough to capitalize on the leaders' mistakes. Sometimes this approach pays off sometimes you finish behind them. He was using his head and got a stroke of luck, that is called racing and that is why he has the points lead.
What is up with Dungey ??? I was expecting more, but maybe the best is yet to come ....
Ride Smart= not riding above what the track and ur setup is willing to give you that night.
Anyone know why Kyle Regal is struggling in SX? Is it just not his thing? He did so well in his outdoor appearances on all kinds of equipment. Doesn't make sense.
@ riding backwards, His chain was a real killer for Dungey, But I don't think he's done yet. He's saving the best for last!!
Chill out everyone. Just cause rv has a better avg lap time does not mean he was as fast as them. The avg lap time for stewart and reed is messed up because of the last lap. When you spend an extra ten seconds on the last lap its going to throw the avgs off. And I swear I saw someone write, "the person with the best avg lap time will always win..its basic math" WHAT?! I'm not going to waste my time on going any farther with that one.
YOUR.......it is basic math! Average is determined by dividing an over all time by the number of laps raced. I'm no rocket scientist but I presume whoever completes the 20 laps in the least amount of time probably won the race? Dungey finished second.....I'm willing to bet that he also had the second fastest average lap time.
As another post stated the only factor that could affect it is where on the first lap the timing starts. Fastest average time doesn't mean RV was the fastest....simply means he crossed the line first.
Trey Canard had a slower average lap time than Andrew Short yet he finished ahead of him. Trey has apparently pulled off the impossible.
Ride backwards - Dungey is where he would have been last year if the rest of the gang was at the gate, I think that debate has been proven and even RD knows it.....He'll have his moments no doubt as he is definetly a top 5 guy on any given night, but he wont beat JS7, RV2 or CR22 on a regular basis, unless they give it to him like the past few weeks...Maybe outdoors we'll see him up front, but with RV and JS7 doing the outdoors, I dont expect much difference.....RV will dominate the outdoors...
This fastest average lap thing crops up every week. It's true if you take the time from dropping the gate to crossing the finish line and divide by twenty the winner will have the fastest average lap time. If you start excluding laps for some reason, like the first lap or whatever then it could be different which in this case makes TC look slower than AS even though he beat him. So TC MUST have had a faster first lap (which wasn't counted) for this to be possible.
I think they should include the whole race or average lap is not a valid measure because there's so many factors affecting laptimes in a race - back markers, yellow flags etc. Either decide that the fastest guy is the one with the single hottest lap throughout the day,or decide the best racer by seeing who crosses the finish line first.
If you start missing out laps for some reason then you're in 'lies, damn lies and statistics...' territory and you can cut it any way you like to make your favourite rider the fastest
Blimey I've written an essay! Thanks for reading ...
you all are idiots "RV had the best average time, hes way more consistent," crap. Do the math, as well as count the two FASTEST riders were on the ground for a few seconds.
@ riding assbackwards - Ralph didnt write the article dumb dumb. After learning how to find the author of articles maybe you can learn how to spell. Sounds like I touched a nerve though. Are you mad that Ralph took your spot in the #7 sack swinging party?
paulf......don't remind me of statistics class, hated that crap. I heard that quote "there's lies, damned lies, and statistics" so many times, and it's true. If you don't take these charts with a grain of salt the info can be meaningless sometimes.
To: GOON DJames30
Who do you think coined that phrase ????
"Fastest Man on the Lap Charts....you goons will look for anything to use that played out name"
Was it the person who whote the article or Ralph Shaheen ?????
Now go and jump on someone elses jock, dum-dum ...
Typo corrections ...
To: GOON DJames30
Who do you think coined that phrase ????
"Fastest Man on the planet ????? ....you goons will look for anything to use that played out name"
Was it the person who wrote the article or Ralph Shaheen ?????
Now go and jump on someone elses jock, dum-dum ...
JS 4/10ths faster, RC might have been right he was toying with Reed??? maybe to much!!
Before the crash RD was about 8sec back, RV was about 3-4 sec back.
BillC ya your right they were down a long time haha!!! if dungey went by then they were really down a while haha
BillC ya your right they were down a long time haha!!! if dungey went by then they were really down a while haha
All still very good. close enough to make a difference at the line. Villopoto = recipient of gift, Dungey = see previous, Reed = not willing to give one away & Stewart = paid high price for moto education. Daytona, aka the "mini national" might shake up the order some more. Dungey's problems can't be the bike, they've got years of good (great?) settings to draw from and that just doesn't change overnight. Maybe everybody saying he's 4th (or 5th) of five might be right. We shall see.
It says something about Wilson's passing ability when the top 6 guys were in the 48s.
I love how everyone is still looking at the lap times.... As if the lap times meant anything...
Jimmy, maybe if you look at the lap times, you would see that they mean something....As if......lol
@ Riding withmyheadupmyassbackwards - If you knew how to read you would see I put "Fastest Man on the Lap Chart". This would mean I was referring to the author you dimwit since he WROTE THE DAMN ARTICLE!! 2nd, I believe if we start at the top of the comments and read down it was actually your short term memory loss ass that jumped on my jock. It must suck that the helmet you wear was intended to keep you from bashing your head against the short bus window. Good luck little fella.
A lot of people keep bagging on RV stating he was riding smart. Why? I think that is exactly what he was doing. He was not "hanging it out" on a slick track. He was not being significantly gap'd, and he could see there was a battle happening. He knew he had RD covered behind him, so he just put in in comfort mode and held his ground.
AND he got lucky. The battle up front did indeed turn fortuitous for him.
Did he ride smart? I think so.
Did he get lucky? Yes!
And Luck? we know it favors the prepared, those who put themselves in a position to take advantage. Clearly RV did.
He will dig deep for the little extra to win when it is needed, believe it.
hello !! RV2 had best average lap time because JS and CR hit the ground for 5 seconds duh !! also the reason RV lap times were not in 47s because he was not in a battle like the drama boys were. Im glad for RV . watch him at Daytona spank'em and increase his points........
For the record Racer X should tell us all how they measure the average lap times, starting on the 2nd lap? Let us know, settle the argument once and for all.