by Davey Coombs
The List: Top Ten Cities That Deserve A Supercross
Thursday, February 24, 2011 | 4:40 PM
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PrintEvery year, fans wait and hope that this will be the year their nearby city gets to join the Monster Energy AMA Supercross tour. But a lot of factors go into planning the calendar, including weather, stadium availability, local population, sports scene, labor costs, and more. That said, here are ten cities we think have a good shot at being added someday…maybe.
10. CHICAGO: Chicago is the next-door neighbor of Aurora, Illinois, which is where Feld Motor Sports is located. But Wrigley Field (home of the Cubs) and Soldier Field (home of the Bears) and Comiskey Park (White Sox) all seem to be off-limits. The weather makes for a short window as well. The only time they tried a race near Chi-Town was the Jolliet Speedway back in 2000, which just didn't have the look or feel or razzle-dazzle of what we see in places like Anaheim.
9. BOSTON: Boston used to have a SX in Foxboro at Sullivan Stadium, but it was hampered by cold snowy weather. There's a brand new stadium there that the Patriots play in, Gillette Stadium, but alas there is no roof overhead (it may not make sense to SX fans, but in the NFL that means a serious advantage in the playoffs against warm weather teams). There's also Fenway Park downtown, but you can't get on that field unless you play for the RedSox.
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8. PHILADELPHIA: We would say Pittsburgh here instead since it's closer to our offices, but we've already got two nearby nationals. It's nice outside by the end of April—they play baseball over there, and they have an extra stadium next door!
7. DENVER: Okay, they tried the Mile High town and it didn't work out, but that was fifteen years ago. Since then, the city has grown, and the nearby Thunder Valley National has become a great hub for the region's racers. You have a couple of local stars (Andrew Short and Eli Tomac) to work the local media. But, again, there’s no roof on the stadium, and you really never know in that area until May whether winter is completely over....
6. PONTIAC: This is the one that got away. When the Detroit Lions moved downtown, AMA Supercross followed. Unfortunately, with few places to park, and minus the suburban experience Pontiac fans were used to, the event never grabbed a strong foothold at Ford Field. But now that Pontiac's Silverdome is under new management (it was purchased last year for $586,000), wouldn't it be cool to go back there, run it up into the stands, and have another big amateur day? They did just do a Snocross—won by Tucker Hibbert, of course—for whatever that's worth....
Azteca Stadium holds close to 105,000 people.
5.MEXICO CITY: Okay, you're probably laughing at this one, but forget about the rampant drug violence on the border for a minute. SX needs an international event, and it's been next-to-impossible to get the riders and teams any farther than Toronto. But if they shipped all the bikes and equipment to Mexico City, chartered a plane for everyone else, went down to Azteca Stadium, charged $5 a ticket, and filled it up with 105,000 people, it would look damn good on TV and maybe help drive global popularity. But then again, it's still Mexico, and when the International Six Days Enduro has to be cut down to five due to nearby drug violence, well, it's going to be tough to convince the masses that this would work.
4. MONTREAL: Still on the international vibe, what about Montreal's Expo Stadium? It's massive, it draws a great crowd for the fall SX show up there, it's got a roof, and it's exotic enough to make everyone think they’re somewhere really, really far away, like Paris, or maybe Marseilles. Surely it would draw better than Vancouver and maybe even Toronto. Unfortunately, contractual issues with other promoters and event schedules might not allow this to happen.
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3. NASHVILLE: You can count on the weather, as well as the love of off-road vehicles that comes with any Southern town. Loretta Lynn's is an hour away and it always does well, but then again, it's driven by participants, not necessarily spectators.
2. CHARLOTTE: This one seems easy. Weather is good, the Carolina MX scene is robust (Joe Gibbs Racing, Austin Stroupe, Broc Tickle, Ian Trettle, Les Smith, Cooper Webb, and more), and they have a great venue in Bank of America Stadium. SX had some success at the old Memorial Stadium, but it was old and small, so they moved out to Charlotte Motor Speedway, but it was huge and looked empty. Bank of America is a beautiful downtown stadium that sits empty in the springtime. It would be nice to capitalize on the big Southeast audience that comes to Atlanta, but the downtown Charlotte location makes parking and pitting very challenging. Those 1960's and 1970's era stadiums, such as Qualcomm in San Diego, may not be beautiful, but the old-school idea of building out in the spacious suburbs does lead to extra space for the team trucks.
A return to the Northeast is something to keep an eye on.
1.SYRACUSE: The series organizer has long coveted a foothold in the Northeast, but weather patterns and a lack of stadiums with roofs have conspired against them, as has the higher expense of using union labor to bring in the dirt, build the track, and run the race. But Syracuse's Carrier Dome always seemed doable, except for the fact that the building had a "no dirt" policy until just recently. In fact, it hosts its first Monster Jam in a couple of weeks, and Monster Jam is a property of—wait for it—Feld Motor Sports! The Northeast needs a race more than any other region, and Syracuse, which is very close to Unadilla, is the place. Stay tuned!
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Denver? I was at the last one. The Broncos in all likelihood won't let the track touch the field, just like last time. The crowd was, to be kind, sparse.
Mexico City? Only for those with a death wish. The drug war doesn't stop at the border.
Sure miss the good ol' Pontiac Double-Header! What Great memories. For instance, 2002 when RC blitzed back to a close second (Behind Nate Ramsey) after crashing his brains out. The whole place was going nuts!
kinda pointless when 6 of the stadiums listed are just not possible
HELLO! Minneapolis should have Supercross return to the Metro dome. I remember in 2007 the place was SOLD OUT 64,111 fans were going crazy!!!
Brig back LA Coliseum and maybe we would get good tracks..
How about MIAMI, thay had one back in 89 it was awesome, full sand
GoGo Syracuse!!!!
How about regions that need an outdoor mx national. Like the anywhere in the entire southeast would be nice...
the LA Coliseum would be hella sick cause its classic I was hella pissed we where in Oakland this year why can't we go back over the bridge to San Fran!
@Miami is an awesome idea! I don't recall the 89' supercross but I am sure it was sick!
I want to see a race back in Minneapolis. They always seemed like they had good attendance and the paper champ would probably get half the town out now.
Hmmm, when the question was up on here,minneapolis was right up front. Thats alright,our dome caved in anyway.
>as has the higher expense of using union labor<.... Yup aint Unions great!! I hope SYRACUSE or MONTREAL get one next year. I an going to Toronto but them two would be much closer.
What about Milwaukee?????
I agree that we need a national in the Southeast. All the nationals are up north. Bring Gatorback back!!!!!!!
How cool would it be to see it back in Pontiac! I loved the races when it used to go in the stands. The last time they did that was Travis Pastrana's Rookie year on the 125. He had a broken hand and all!
NEW YORK!!!!!!!!!
They should just rename the west coast the California series. At least get some more other places for the west. And, the Southeast does need more.
I think MIAMI would be a great addition to the circuit, specially now that Miami has become a mayor international Hub for flights coming from Latin America and the Caribbean. and on top of that they are building a brand new baseball stadium with retractable roof. Yes there was a SX back in the early 90's and it was great!!
They should get rid of the east/west sereis and combine to make one big lites series. But since not all teams could afford it let them run like 10 total races and their top 8 finishes would count towards points.
Syracuse baby!!! Upstate NY loves MX racing and right now all we have is Toronto these days for SX. I know people used to drive down to NJ in the 80s for that SX race. But with all the new boarder crossing B.S. most of my friends won't go to Toronto. But the Carrier Dome would be awesome - and packed to the roof for SX.
I would love to see the supercross at Pontiac again. The was a great event.
Bring it to Charlotte!!!!
Baltimore!!! M&T Stadium...Camden Yards probably wouldn't work.
I think they should race at Gillette stadium in foxboro. Wait until like mid april and have it. The weather usually isn't too bad. The snow is done and the temps are in the 50's and 60's, no worse than San Fran.
It would be nice to go to a supercross without getting on a plane. How about the tri-state area? New York, New Jersey or Philadelphia. We just booked Indy and it's going to cost a grand no matter how you slice it.
If you want big fan attendance, every year, bring back Pontiac.
Portland Oregon needs one to give us the experience for once.try a new stadium for once.it would sell out
It's a well known fact that most of the wealth and population in this country is located in the Northeast/Mid Atlantic, that's where they need a race. Unfortunately we also have union labor and cold weather to navigate........... Closest race to Philly, NY and DC is Atlanta.
Being a CA Bay Area resident, I agree that Oakland wasn't as good as San Fran. At minimum, the big screens are far too small. There are too many races in So Cal. I know, I know, the majority of the industry is down there. But, hockey left Canada and that didn’t create a work stoppage. The LA coliseum was a great venue, most notably for providing the only steep downhill sections in Supercross; If those hill climbs and descents are not included in the track designs then isn’t not worth it. However, multiple Anaheim rounds needs to stop.
How about this: ANA, PHX, LA (Coli), SFran, SDiego , WA, TX, CO, GA, FL, IN, STL (MO), Nashville, Charlotte, Toronto, Syracuse, Vegas [17 rounds; 8 West, 8 East, w/ LV final]
I don't see why Kansas City isn't on the list. We have Kemper Arena which is really only used for Arena Cross races anymore, and the Sprint Center which is a new facility (less than 5 years), which houses everything from Monster trucks to concerts (took over for Kemper). I personally hate getting in and out of the Ed Jones dome in STL because it always seems like another event hampers the ease of entry and exit, (ie: last years 15 inning Cardnal's game). Bring it to KC, for three reasons....
1. We have room
2. We LOVE supercross
3. (And most importantly) The worlds best BBQ!
Anywhere would be better than all the CA races. To start with the state is an embarrasment to this country with all the liberalism, they really dosn't deserve SX.
What about NYC? That'd be AMAZING!
No Minneapolis? wtf
why not baltimore,md huh? ,wow you have a hug fan base here for supercross
YES!!!!!!! Syracuse is a great place to have it and it would definitly be filled!!! SWEET
@jamesecox
The state that brought you Supercross doesn't deserve it? Hahaha, that'll go over well with the industry...
Michigan has one of the best outdoor MX Nationals at RedBub, and racers loved the Silverdome back in the day. It wasnt Michigan residents fault that it lost SX, it was Ford's new stadium and the ex criminal mayor of Detroits fault. Its time to bring SX back home to the dome ! Michigan and the Pontiac Silverdome are the obvious choice.
Go orange! Make tickets free for students and there would be a capacity crowd no doubt. You could have the orange mascot doing interviews with riders in mascot sign language. Maybe call the event Lake Effect Supercross. The energy drink models could dress like snow bunnies and do their patented pretend "lean against" hug on the mascot. Syracuse should be begging for a supercross. I guess snow bunnies in April doesn't make sense, but you never know.
@gbs417 F the industry its about the fans, NOT industry convience! CA s@cks!
I would have to agree that Oakland wasn't the venue San Francisco is, but the track was so much better due to the size of the Coliseum as opposed to AT&T Park. Any takers on Sacramento? LOL
Why don't these people understand that you need a decent sized place for it.
Portland, OR - no baseball or football teams, so thats a no-go
NYC - Where would they have it? so theres no where there unless they go outside somewhere
!!!!!!!!!!!!NASHVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please Nashville!
yessss SYRACUSE BAAABBYYYYY WE NEED ONE IN NYYYYYYY!!
Aloha Stadium!!!!! We used to have the Aloha Supercross!!! Same stadium as the Pro Bowl!!! Bring it to HAWAII!!!!!
MAHALO
coming from central fl where tracks are plenty and the mx and sx is huge and now moving to southeast virgina where one would exspect there to be a major sx and mx due to vast open land>>>but that is a no go all private tracks or race only tracks maby if feld would consider placing a race at the hampton virgina location we inspire and create a insta mx sx scene i can tell it would do well and with the supercross coming threw once a year that would be a winner.... i have given up on va and planinng on heading to texas and the local tracks have alot to do with it ...
It would be Hella cool if we could Hella get SX in P-town Oregon. Hella.... we just need a stadium. Hella..
syracuse 45 to 60 thousand tickets $20 to park $9 beer $6 hotdog$25 t shirts,programs!!! sounds great !! but forget it we ll have to hire a few union dirt workers so its not worth it.
Well that's an easy one the world NEEDS an Anaheim 4, right? Morgantown in the coloseum would be awesome am I right Racer X!? It would be nice to see a little something, something up north I dunno say a return to Minneapolis, Denver, Rapid City, Omaha, Fargo for gods sake... Anywhere but california or Texas!
What's all this union crap always being bantered about... Everyone knows you guys are just going to drive up to the local Home Depot with four or five vans and pick up illegals to do the work, anyway. Who you think you're kidding?!
#1 UPSTATE NY HELL YAAA!!!!
#1 UPSTATE NY HELL YAAA!!!!
Hay Jerky NY is not like Cali. You cant just go down to Home Depot and pick up a RAM (Rent A Mexican). You might be able to find some Pollocks, but you would be better of bringing out some RAM's from CA.
A lot of good sugestions here, I never made it to Pontiac but some good racing always seemed to happen there. Well if we can get Mexico City I will volenteer to stand gaurd with my AR-15 to keep everyone safe,lol. Yes to many races on the west coast. Someone has to figure out how to scatter the races and make it so the privateers can follow without going from CA to NY and back to PHX make it a series not a hopscotch to follow.
Make it an international competition by holding 3 races in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
if only!
Pontiac always proved that it could draw a lot of attention. From being one of the coolest tracks (the over-under and taking the track to the stands) to the meet and greet with the riders in the huge parking lot. It has a supercross atmosphere still and with a general admission-type of seating arrangement that they used to have, that place would have butts in the seats. I guarantee it.
yo i think there needs to be a fmx or race in maryland i mean its boring there and they need somithing to let kids have rowmdels thats all
Chicago for sure. They are missing out on top dollars. The population in Chicago is crowded.
BRING IT BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS!!!
come on guys philly?? Im from pittsburgh and dont you think the reason we have two nationals might be because there is a huge fan base here? If you make that argument then why does cali have so many? I think a supercross here would make way more sense. truthfully ive been saying I bet joe gibbs gets a race in n.c. at some point which I would be for to and I would travel to philly for one but please reconsider
Charlotte NC would be perfect. New stadium and right in the middle of the east coast. Saw every race in Charlotte in the 90's and always had great racing action, from Bradshaw passing Stanton to win in front of his home crowd, to Jeremy (out front, the win in his pocket) losing his championship with a flat in 97. Windham had it but crashed spectacularly right in front of me one year and Ryno looked like he missed a gear on the face of a nasty, slick double, casing it, breaking his jaw--definately would be a sold out event!
PONTIAC!!!!!!
cleveland clev clev
MEXICO!!!
Meadowlands in NJ....... The Jets and Giants play there. Seem like a no brainer, it's the largest market SX is not at.
KC...... really great MO racing sceen
Pontiac for sure. Awesome pit parties, stadium always had a good turnout, and even though we have Red Bud, we need a damn Supercross back in the state. I remember as a kid Larry Huffman getting on the P.A. system and saying right before the gate dropped for the main, "Ladies and gentleman, the National Weather Service has just issued a "Hurricane Warning" for Bob Hannah. Man the Dome went nuts.
yeah is a shame that my country mexico has a lot o problems and its a trouble with the drugs and that stuff, and we really love the sport. i was in the six days of enduro and it sucks how they have to stop the event, i really love mexico my country but the reallity is that. Mexico loves trey canard. go man.
why does it have 2 be a dome stadium on the east coast??,,let it rain damn let it snow a bit make it a bit more interesting,,lets hav another buffalo ny, @ ralph wilson stadium ,,had one in the 80s when called rich stadium attendance was great but heard the cost was too much due mostly 2 unions,,,pretty sure we could get one in there and fill the stands,,ya know the bills cant pack em in anymore,and im sure mr wilson would love a sell out stadium b4 he passes on cus he knows he aint getten a superbowl ring anytime soon
MX/SX promoters should build their own stadium and tell the football players to forget about coming in there to bend over and hike something, this is an "off road only" stadium.
The Races at Miami would be packed that place is nuts they had one before.
Pontiac is a no-brainer. This race was ALWAYS sold out. The parking was and is easy, it's located in close proximity to several major freeways, and it's past experience at holding the event in spectacular fashion is the proof it is not a gamble to hold it here.
I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I feel it's a disgrace California hosts so many races. It's completely unfair to the rest of the Nation.
Mexico City wouldn't be that bad of a choice, yeah the ISDE had to cancel the last day for security reasons but they chose one of the worst states in regards to drug violence. Mexico City may have the crime that any big city has but they don't have the drug violence problem, yet. They've held a round of the Red Bull X-Fighters in Mexico City for years without any problems and the arena always sold out. I'm sure they could fill most of the seats at Azteca Stadium.
With that said, I think there are more than a few cities in the US that deserve a supercross before Mexico City.
Hey here's an idea... do away with all the bikes and have similators so when they crash no one gets hurt. Then we can all go to blue gum street in Anaheim and race the go carts with ice cream and get sick afterwords. Sounds like a really neato man cool junk yard dog idea with cherry popcicles and A LARGE ORANGE DRINK!!!!! AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mexico City will be a great place, I am from there and the drug violence is not like it says in the news, now the city is safer and as guy said in his comment, he have held 4 red bull X fighters without a problem and also the Azteca stadium is really big, great place for supercross.
Mexico City will be a great place, I am from there and the drug violence is not like it says in the news, now the city is safer and as guy said in his comment, he have held 4 red bull X fighters without a problem and also the Azteca stadium is really big, great place for supercross.
Mexico City will be a great place, I am from there and the drug violence is not like it says in the news, now the city is safer and as guy said in his comment, he have held 4 red bull X fighters without a problem and also the Azteca stadium is really big, great place for supercross.
Mexico City will be a great place, I am from there and the drug violence is not like it says in the news, now the city is safer and as guy said in his comment, he have held 4 red bull X fighters without a problem and also the Azteca stadium is really big, great place for supercross.
Whats the difference between having a race at Daytona and at Charlotte Motor Speedway? If anything, it would look emptier at Daytona.
I say bring more SX's back to Nascar tracks. Then we wouldn't have people *****in about tearing up the grass, like at Dodger Stadium. I mean, NASCAR's drive over it/do burn outs on it.
And, if it was at a Nascar track, there would be plenty of seating, pits, parking, etc. I think Nascar tracks will be the future of SX
WORLD SUPERCROSS? Mmmmmmmmmm how about Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or another country. We all follow supercross but the world championship would be nice for even a rotating round O/S once a year. I know its financial but would be nice for the whole sport.
" The Northeast needs a race more than any other region," Indeed, and California needs only 1 just like the rest of them. I feel having like what 4 races in same state, 2 in which are in same stadium. Given I am happy they dropped at least one of the A's rounds. But really. You would get more exposure venturing outside of cali that many times in one series. Given I do understand Cali is where all the manufacturers are for the majority, But geeze come on share the wealth haha.
Mexico? You won't see me throwin' whips there...EVAR.
Down under? Not likely, but what a great idea!
LODI CYCLE BOWL!!!!!! We'll throw in the "tree turn" for some sweet side by side action!
Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte... I have several reasons as to why.. But the only one that matters to anybody on the business side of things should be this... SELL OUT!
Miami SX? It would be more packed then any other in Florida..
The Chicago/Joliet race in 2000 was awesome since it was where the "King" clinched his final championship. I've been to several different locations and Joliet was my favorite with Vegas a pretty close 2nd. I thought they were nuts since it can and does snow here until May but I would buy tickets if it ever came back.
What's with all the union bashing!? Have you people been watching too much FOX news while the top 1.5% in this country own/stole 90% of all the wealth in the past 30yrs... Welcome to Regan-Bush-Bush "trickle down, SuppLIE side economics"... Unions are not perfect, but Unionizing is the only way to make a decent/livable wage for the working class in this country. You're not gonna read/hear that from all the lying corporate news media! There's no such thing as independent news/journalism anymore. 10 corporations now own ALL the radio/TV/paper media in the USA! Fascism masquerading as capitalism. Get educated, and never stop learning! Critical thinking is still taught at Northwestern U, but has died/killed off at most corporate driven universities in this country!
Cmon Davey! You're better than that! You know it's Pontiac.
Whatever happens, keep SX in SLC!!!!! Bring it to Denver too....would be sick to have more moto around Utah.
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Another thing...hopefully SX never leaves Vegas either. Doubt it will, but it's nice to have more opportunities to go to the races.
I think it would be nice to see Hawaii get a Supercroos race.I would be on a plane there for sure.
Paris, Tokyo, Sydney, Buenos aires, London, Madrid, Moscow, Beijing....is this worls championship or what ?
Vancouver!!!!! the 5 ring circus has left town and we would love to have the series come back.
toronto sucks bag.
I would love it to come to MN again, however (Mike Shelby) ^ you couldnt be further from the truth. 07' was not even close to selling 64,000 seats, it was closer to half that and if it was true it would still be a stop on the tour.
Yup Union's are dragin down the counrty and now there F ing up SX!!! Union Bashing You make me laugh, HOW RICH are all the Union big wigs?? Were does YOUR money go after you give it to them?? Answer= Were ever THEY want YOU have no say. Take your talking points and go sit and do nothing.... You wont get fired the Union will save you.
SX is huge in FL.. Stewart, Reed, Carmichael, Villo all live here or at least have a house here! Bring more races to FL. AT LEAST AN OUTDOOR!!!
PONTIAC! Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease PRETTY PLEASE!?!?!
Minneapolis!! I can't believe that anyone would pick a canadian round over Mpls.. District 23 is one of the strongest moto communities out there, with a few world champs (Donny Schmidt and Heath Voss) and the new indoor and outdoor champ (Ryan Dungey).
I second the Charlotte one! But headed to ATL for tomorrows race! Come on RV2 and JB10!
Other than a chance of snow Colorado has some really nice winters, plus we have held not only have we held 6 great years of Nationals but we also had a Des Nations race!! Colorado is coming up when it comes to Moto and so are our racers. I'd love to see Mile High hold a SX, we would pack tha place for sure!!!
Hell why not Coors Field?
I went to the Charlotte race every year when it was here, liked it at the speedway, LOVED it at Memorial stadium, there are numerous other stadiums that would support it with parking, we have a major NFL team for goodness sakes!
BILLC, dont talk about something you know nothing about. And YES I have a say in were my union dues go. I absolutely do. So save it if you dont know what your talking about. Our "Union Big wigs" as you call it at my local union make the same amount an hour as I do. So I will say again, dont talk about something you know nothing about. You are a business owner, so of course you dont like a union, they might get into your big profits that you like to brag about. Remember you bragging to SEF that you pay more taxes than he makes in a year. But on the moto note. I think Syracuse or Charlotte, or maybe Pontiac, deserve the next supercross. NO MORE OUT WEST, THAT INCLUDES MEXICO CITY. They already have enough out west. No more.
I say take it to Minneapolis and Bring It To Denver, both I think would be great locations. I think after they brought the Nationals back to Denver, they showed that the dirt-bike scene here has blown-up compared to what it used to be. I don't really think they would have that much trouble bringing in the fans now like they might have in the past. Plus the weather usually starts to warm-up and become a little more predictable by the end of March... DenverSX!
The series organizer has long coveted a foothold in the Northeast, but weather patterns and a lack of stadiums with roofs have conspired against them, as has the higher expense of using union labor to bring in the dirt, build the track, and run the race.
HA - BD200 called me an idiot last year for saying union labor was one of the reasons there are no Supercrosses in the northeast. What do you have to say now??????
The tickets for the cheap seats in a union house would be $50-60 and the break even would make the show impossible. RFK in Wash DC, Philly and Pittsburgh and Cleveland all had SX events that made paupers out of the promoters not to mention the hassle for the riders who wanted to plug in a fan without a union person doing the work. True Pittsburgh had a rain issue that was expensive, but no one has ever wanted to go back there again.
Guys, I did not mean to be hard on union labor but it is a fact of the matter. My dad co-promoted two AMA Supercross races with PACE (now Feld) way back in 1978 and '83 in Pittsburgh's Three Rivers Stadium. In both cases he had a great crowd -- close to 40,000 -- but the union costs of working with the stadium and city made both races losers.
Funny story: On the last day of the clean-up, the stadium boss asked my dad if it was okay if he called in lunch for everyone and had it delivered. He said sure, and within an hour there was about 500 more people there (wives, kids, etc.) and my dad got a bill for more than $6,000 from McDonald's! Guys who weren't even on the job were showing up by the carload.... That was a long time ago, and I am sure things are different, but that day it was a pretty costly way to do business.
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MINNEAPOLIS MN - But a late season round, not in January, most MN rounds were 60k+ attendance.
Well bd200 I know a few people that are in Unions and They said thay have no say, If the Union gives a TON of money to Obama (like they did) and u don't want your money going to obama guess what.. Its goes anyway. Its a fact the Unions are killing this country along with the lawyers, U love them thats great but I can see how thay hurt more than thay do good. DC I guess people like BD200 think the union dirt movers do a better job. LOL As for my business there is no way to compete with a union on board, Of core the union does not care if you go belly up they will just move onto the next business till they kill that one too.
Kansas City would be awesome! Arrowhead AND Kauffman Stadiums have both been remodeled in the last few years, and the Wizards soccer team (now "Sporting KC") is having a new stadium built right now. There's also the Sprint Center which is where Nuclear Cowboys will be next weekend. There a large mx/sx fan base here, too.
Silverdome forsure, i remember when supercross was at pontiac, such a great place for it. i rode the 50's during race time one year, great experience and everybody loved the stadium. BRING BACK THE SILVERDOME!!!
Oklahoma City! We have a Stadium! yea its for minor leagues baseball but comon! We also have the State Fair Motor Speedway (which has held AMA supercross in the past) t hat the event was most recently held in 1991 when Jeff Ward won the event. And this area is always good for a mudder ;)
unions suck!!!!!! just look at Wisconsin. selfish bastards!!!!
Denver!
bring it back to minneapolis!! the dome always had good attendance.
clear out the capital in washington dc. clean out government haul em away with the trash and put the race in there perfect!
You seem to be forgetting Minneapolis. The Dome was packed every time the series showed up. Minneapolis had a larger attendance than most of the stops on the tour. The middle of Jan. is not an ideal time because it is so cold, but mid March would be perfect. As most of us up here in the north central US are just itching to get out on the track at this point in the winter. Bring the series back to Minnesota and we won't disappoint.
Supercross at Wrigley Field would be awesome, to bad it'll never happen. To small and weather to unpredictable. Could also rain like it does at some of the California half of the schedule.
The Joliet Speedway race in 2000 was awesome. The third triple at the far end of the track was sick. Pastrana doing manuals through the whole whoops section. McGrath winning his final title... Only downside, it was cold, and that time of the year it could snow.
To bad Chicago doesn't have a stadium like Indy and St. Louis, both great places to see a race. Pontiac was always fun also, track going up in the stands was crazy.
TF803, "track going up in the stands was crazy," that's what I'm talking about!! SX needs to bring back the track designs that have real elevation changes. But that has to be reserved for very large stadiums were the removed seating wont effect the bottom line.
Does anyone else think it’s a bit strange that 15th-20th place is usually not jumping all of the rhythms? How do you make a main event and not clear all of the obstacles? I’d rather see lites riders pushing the pace than a 450 putting around from blue flag to blue flag.
If I dont want any of my union contributions to go to a certain political candidate, I can call my union district rep. and tell them. they take my info. , and thats it, it doesnt go there. And unions dont care if they kill a business, your an idiot Bill, quit talking about something YOU know nothing about. Unions dont kill anything, it means they wont have a job either genious. And yes, I think a union operator who was trained properly to do the job will do better than some redneck who is trying to learn on the job. Absolutely. thats easy. And I love to see a blue coller guy make a decent wage instead of him getting shafted by some greedy business owners and managers. I dont know many people who can live on 25,000 a year, do you??
MINNEAPOLIS!!!
Well there killing the states right now and don't seem to care that there going broke, How much in taxes do we need to pay to cover the cost of all the union state workers?? So because someone did not get trained my some Union guy he is a redneck who knows nothing..Hmmm i should tell that to some friends of mine One who has been operating machines sence he was 11 years old that they are rednecks who know nothing... Even though one of them started his co in high school and has an unbelieveable bis he built from scrach. Either way I will stop here because i actuly liked not arguing with youth last week or so. But please next time we don't agree please don't start name calling so fast.
NEW YORK !!! NEW YORK !!! MEADOWLANDS NY GIANTS STADIUM(ACTUALLY IN NJ) NEW STADIUM NO ROOF BUT LATE MARCH OR APRIL NORTHEAST NEEDS A SUPERCROSS BAD. WE ARE BLESSED WITH THE NATIONALS BUT THEY TOOK MAGICAL BROOME TIOGA AWAY GIVE US A SX IN RETURN PLEASE
I don't think anyone mentioned New Orleans... Being from here, I really miss the Superdome round. Sure the last couple tracks that were there sucked, but it's the largest enclosed-roof dome in the world, we have great fans, and the dome has gone through two COMPLETE renovations since the storm (one going on right now that's going to add even MORE floor space). And I'm sure the riders and groupies would enjoy the French Quarter...
I say bring back New Orleans! It's still Southeast, and it couldbe just as big as Atlanta with the right planning.
They should bring one to baltimore or DC. We have the Raven and Redskins stadiums, not to mention Camden yards (Orioles) and the new Nationals stadium. That would work. To make sure weather isn't a problem have this potential round be towards the end of the east series. In late March and April the weather is in the 60-70s here. Definitely good enough for supercross!!!!
How about Milwaukee,Wi at Miller Park where the Brewers play and it has a retractable roof???????........We cheese heads love sx/motorcross.....
I agree with Miguel!!!!!!!!!!! Miller Park in Milwaukee,Wi would be great.....Northern Wi has arenacross races......let's step it up.AMA and bring our awesome sport to the frozen tundra..............Go Packer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a quick question. Why do they not come to Minneapolis anymore? I had once heard it was because of the cold, but we race at places like the sandbox arena all the time, if you are inside what does it matter? just wondering. thanks for the website, you guys do a great job!!
SF? Oakland stadium at least has some space you can walk around in. SF stadium is as crappy as the city it's in! No more SF YEAH!!!!
Hella!
Philly would be amazing, but anywhere in the Northeast would be nice. Never been to a SX and I've been riding for almost 15 years.
CLEAR channel is very very cheap,they chose oakland over S.F. ,oakland being a shit hole, it was alot cheaper, less cost, more profit,just like south central los angeles ca,coleseum? los angeles area being a very poor area,just like oakland,stolen cars abound at these shit holes.....HE,HE,HE,HE good luck.....
NEWWWW ORLEANNNNNSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its the largest Supercross party in the states!!
Parking is terrible , but hell, Drink a few Hurricanes drinks from Pat O' Brians and you don't care where your car is after the race!!!! LMBO!!!
Jamey 21
Our neighbors to the south are in a mess. No way to Mexico City.
Driving through Chicago is worse than Mexico City, and it's politics are unforgivable.
YESSSSSS to Pontiac.
Miami would be great.
Maybe DC thinks he would sell more subscriptions and fill the parking lots at more of his events if everyone in the country were making 10 buck's an hour... Oh wait a minute, thats part of our problem now in this country,cause all the other jobs went overseas to cheap labor. I really dont care where you decide to have the next stupidcross, My wife wanted our family to go to St.louis this year and I told her "I really dont want to"
1.spend the money (even though I'm in a union)
2.take the time (cause I have a gravy union job that I have to work every other weekend)
3.go through the hassle (of waiting in line for everything,leaving parking sucks)
4.all the above for a 12-13 minute main event, I'm over it.
Mismanagement is killing the states, not the teachers salaries, or a policeman. When was the last time you saw a rich policeman or teacher. The Repubs. are trying to use them as scapegoats like always. And 65% of the voting public DO NOT want the union concessions in Ohio or Wisconsion. Arent the elected officials supposed to act the wills of the voting public?? The unions offered a ton of concessions, the Repubs. said no. I am following this close Bill, so you wont be able to argue facts with me. I work in Ohio, the Governer increased salaries of his cabinet members. Spent millions on security for his personnal home so he wouldnt have to move into the Governers Mansion, and said he shouldnt have to disclose what he pays his employees, its nobodies business. Then wants the union workers to give up everything they worked for for years. He is a piece of crap, period. And the voters in Ohio DO NOT want these concessions by the public unions. the polls showed it in overwelming numbers. They are the voters, so it should die there.
bd200 ,Iagree 100% with what throwing down.....if you see a republi-con GET a rope hang-em high...lol,he,he....repubs are for the rich, have and always will be!just like california U.S. senator barbara fienstien carrys a gun ,is for gun control,liberal c.u.n.t can' t understand normal thinking....
Funny you say the people don't want it, Hmmmm Seems I remember Obama's healthcare plan was NOT wanted by mosty and you backed him when he shoved that down our throats!! Arent the elected officials supposed to act the wills of the voting public (as you say)?? As for the rest of your rant Teacher make more than the Avarge and they only work half a year!!! Pluse the bennies they have are WAAAAAAAAAY more than the privite sector people.Even if they stink it is VERY hard to get rid of them because the union saves them wile they do a piss poor job. People in my state what CUTS the polls show it. When the question is not worded in a screwed up way people want cuts not more spending. I also fine it VERY funny you slam your Governer for things he has done like this list you gave. >Increased salaries of his cabinet members. Spent millions on security for his personnal home so he wouldnt have to move into the Governers Mansion, and said he shouldnt have to disclose what he pays his employees, its nobodies business. Sounds like stuff I am pissed at Obama for doing, How much has he spent on his Wife's handlers?? Every first lady before her has 2 at the most, SHE had waht 20+. I say Obama is a POS and u defend him them bash your guy for doing the same stuff. Please BD200 don't be that way.
Was just thinking (scary i know) Last year I bought just about 180,000 pounds of steel. It all comes from 1 of 2 mills that make this grade steel. I buy thru a few dif co,s that get the steel from one of the two mills that make it. One of whitch is a Union place and there price is always about .09 per pound higher the the other guys. Why do you think that is?? Wile .09 does not seem like a lot when you buy 180,000 pounds it is a lot. $16,200 worth. NOW I would much rather put that in my workers and my own pocket then theres. What would you do?? If you say buy it from the Union guys IMO your crazy, If you don't then you don't really support the Union's unless it does not really hurt your pocket.
A Motocross Pro Bowl in Hawaii would be cool.I raced and lived there,and a year laterafter I moved,they started a SX..great...:/ Anyway Charlotte seems logical,definately need more on the right coast. (over 2-3 in La-La land) A 1 A 2 A 3..etc. Thats pretty unfair the the general motocross population.
you can come back here anytime,,yes bring back pontiac the state needs the love
I didnt defend Obama, I said we need to do something about health care in this country and the Repubs. were not coming up with an alternative. If the majority of voters dont want his plan, then scrap it and start over. And no teacher dont only work half a year. Your kids only go to school for 6 months?? Really?? If you cut down teachers salaries even more, then all the quality teachers will be gone. And what teachers make more money than average?? My sister-in-law is a teacher and has a Masters degree, and only makes 40,000 dollars a year. Is that too much for you BillC?? To educate our children, And she is working well into the night at home doing papers and grading and preparing for the next day. She puts in alot of hours away from work. She should be paid accordingly. And as to which steel would I buy?? I would buy the domestic steel that is the best quality. Period. Bill, I have been involved in the steel business for over 20 years. And all the large construction projects I have been involved with require domestic steel, because of the higher quality. That should be your first priority. Just like FMF said. Cheaper isnt always the best way to go, its the quality that counts. I definately believe that will be lost if the teachers and police and firemans wagers are taken away.
And I said give Obama a chance, look what he had to start with, a destroyed economy by the Pres. you defend. If he doesnt do the job, I wont vote for him either. But at least he got the former CEO's off the Labor Relations Board panel that Bush put on there. CEO'srunning the NLRB. Give me a break, no wonder workers lost more personnel protections from companies in Bush's eight years than any other time is recent history. Sorry BILL, but I'm not a company owner like you, I have to protect myself from greedy business owners. Not saying you are one, but greed in the large business is what created the unions in the first place. Its how we got the 40 hour work week, OSHA protection, overtime pay. And even the weekend. Your welcome.
I'm missing all the fun! First of all ... Syracuse! Next, people need to understand that before unions, it was the wealthy business owners ... and the slaves. (Sold my soul to the company store.) Also, unions don't just create better wages and protections for themselves, they set a higher standard for ALL workers. From Wisconsin, they'd have you believe that the unions are responsible for their financial woes. The union agreed to the conditions, but the governor isn't happy; he wants to break the union (and gain political power). And don't even start with teachers. There is NO more valuable member of the workforce, yet they’re criticized at each turn. People don't raise their kids right (or at all), send them to school, and complain if the teachers can't "fix" them. Half a year ... I would expect that kind of CRAP from you, BillC.
Oh, and Wisconsin approved $117 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy while all this is going on!
Sorry, that was Million. "Before Wisconsin’s budget went bust, Governor Walker signed $117 million in corporate tax breaks. Wisconsin’s immediate budge shortfall is $137 million. That’s his pretext for socking it to Wisconsin’s public unions."
metrodome for sure... or maybe a late round in the new twins stadium?? =)
CUSE ALL THE WAY
Would Love to see a supercross in Milwaukee's Miller Park! It's got a roof and plenty of hotels.
syracuse would be perfect. Califorinia has way too many. What if the ama stoped the lites east and west series and just combined it into one long 17 race series?
BD200, The school year is 180 days right?? A 5 day work week would be 260 day's so wile not quite half a year it is still way less the a normal work year. As for my Steel you missed where I said they BOTH get the steel from the SAME mills. It happens to be domestic and always comes with Certs, but that does not matter in my question. The Union suppler cost more for the SAME steel so again what would you do??
Also bd200 you always like to slam BIG BIS... Let me ask you this. You are a steel worker so how many jobs do you do that are NOT for a BIG BIS?? So You need big bis just like everyone else.
I dont slam big business, I slam politicians who give billion dollar corps, huge tax breaks and then want middle class workers to take a tax cut to pay for it. and I have a problem with any business owner who hates to pay a person a fair wage for his work. I dont know anyone who can raise a family on 15.00 dollars an hour. But that is what they want to pay you. And I am NOT a steel worker. I am a Union Ironworker, there is a huge difference.
Yahoo, Bring Supercross to Syracuse. I can see the Carrier Dome from my front yard. I went to the Monster Jam event in the Dome. It was a sold out super event. Over 40,000 people had a great time. More fans for monster trucks than any basketball game all season.
Mike Shelby said it! MINNEAPOLIS - Attended for years, always good attendance...as we Minnesotans need an MX fix in the middle of the frickin winter. Then they just pulled us off the list.. *wimper* *sniff*...
Come to monterrey mexico!!!
No list is complete without Snowshoe, WV.
Please Boston we need a supercross race in New England. Some of the races in the east coast series i wouldnt even consider part of the east coast like texas. If the race was in Boston it could be one of the last east coast races so it isnt as cold. california has to many sx races so i think some of them could stop and have them spread out all throughout the country so that more of these races could happen.