by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: Oakland
Tuesday, February 1, 2011 | 9:40 AM
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Round 4 of Monster Energy AMA Supercross from Oakland left plenty to be desired in the form of the new two-headed monster of James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto. Early in the race it looked like we were set to witness another showdown between the big guns. But after making the same mistake Stewart made in LA, Villopoto washed the front-end and never recoverd from there taking home a fourth-place finish. Meanwhile, Stewart was checking out and Chad Reed was chasing Ryan Dungey to the finish. But enough about the race; let's check out the lap charts, brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 4 |
47.285 | 2 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 1 | 47.432 | 2 | James Stewart |
| 3 | 2 |
48.099 | 20 |
Chad Reed |
| 4 | 3 | 48.643 | 6 |
Ryan Dungey |
| 5 | 5 | 49.283 | 20 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 6 | 6 | 49.391 | 3 | Trey Canard |
| 7 | 8 | 49.466 |
4 |
Davi Millsaps |
| 8 | 19 |
49.506 | 5 | Austin Stroupe |
| 9 | 7 | 49.697 | 10 | Kevin Windham |
| 10 | 9 | 49.976 | 12 | Andrew Short |
| 11 | 17 | 50.044 | 3 | Kyle Regal |
| 12 | 11 | 50.148 | 2 | Chris Blose |
| 13 | 15 | 50.204 | 5 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 14 | 18 | 50.380 | 7 | Justin Brayton |
| 15 | 10 | 50.523 | 7 | Ivan Tedesco |
| 16 | 16 | 50.846 | 6 | Dan Reardon |
| 17 | 12 | 50.913 | 4 | Matt Boni |
| 18 | 14 | 51.397 | 6 | Weston Peick |
| 19 | 13 | 51.754 | 6 | Vince Friese |
| 20 | 20 | 54.975 | 2 | Nick Wey |
James Stewart used a Ryan Villopoto mistake to blitz the field en route to his second win of the season, while in the process throwing down the second fastest lap time of the night with a 47.432 on his second lap of the race.
Stewart got the win, but Villopoto got the fastest lap.
Photo: Garth Milan
While Villopoto utlimatley made the mistake that would cost him the race he still managed to set the track a blaze with the fastest lap time of the night (47.285), besting Stewart by a slim margin.
Rockstar Makita Suzuki’s Brett Metcalfe had his best finish of the season thus far (fifth place) which coincidently coincided with his best lap time finish of the season—fifth. With this past Wednesday being Australia day, maybe five was just a lucky number for the Aussi—if only it would have been round four instead of five. Oh well.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 2 |
47.933 |
3 |
Josh Hansen |
| 2 | 4 | 47.956 |
2 |
Ken Roczen |
| 3 | 3 |
48.021 |
3 |
Eli Tomac |
| 4 | 1 |
48.282 |
5 |
Broc Tickle |
| 5 | 7 |
48.620 |
3 |
Kyle Cunningham |
| 6 | 15 |
49.018 |
3 |
|
| 7 | 5 |
49.237 |
6 |
Tyla Rattray |
| 8 | 6 |
49.428 |
4 |
Ryan Morais |
| 9 | 19 | 50.065 | 4 | Travis Baker |
| 10 | 8 |
50.141 |
11 |
Jimmy Decotis |
| 11 | 11 |
50.161 |
7 |
Gared Steinke |
| 12 | 9 |
50.274 |
6 |
Bruce Rutherford |
| 13 | 14 |
50.340 |
2 |
Jake Canada |
| 14 | 10 |
50.612 |
11 |
Ryan Marmont |
| 15 | 16 |
50.757 |
3 |
Martin Davalos |
| 16 | 12 |
51.017 |
3 |
Ben Evans |
| 17 | 13 |
51.164 |
13 |
Nick Paluzzi |
| 18 | 17 |
52.746 | 2 |
Scott Champion |
| 19 | 18 |
52.746 |
2 |
Casey Hinson |
| 20 | 20 |
1 Lap |
Cole Seely |
Josh Hansen once again put down the fastest lap of the night with a 47.933 (more on his lap time later). While I'm sure Josh would have liked to have won the race, at least he can take some solace in setting the fastest lap of the night.
Tickle captured his first victory since Seattle last year, in Oakland.
Photo: Garth Milan
Broc Tickle bested teammate Josh Hansen on way to his first victory since Seattle last year and his second career SX victory. Tickle put down the fourth fastest lap of the night with a 48.282.
There were only four riders to have a best lap under 48 seconds and two of those four were Lites riders--the other two being Villopoto and Stewart. Josh Hansen and Germany wunderkid Ken Roczen both managed to put down fast laps under the 48-second mark. Not only were those laps the two fastest laps put down in the Lites class, but it would have placed Hansen and Roczen third and fourth respectfully in the AMA Supercross class. Impressive.
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Reed and Metcalfe turned in their fastest laps in lap 20, WOW!! . that is cool. Now I hope somebody doesnt say RV2 was the fastest guy on the track. But some guys will say just that. Thats what they used to say when Stewie would do just what RV did. But I dont agree with it. But he does have speed, he looked real uncomfortable out there though.
I have to disagree that Hansen an Roczen would have been 3rd and 4th in the Supercross class since they did theirs in the beginning of their race and not the end, which would have been closer to the track conditions Villopoto and Stewart did their best laps on. I'm impressed Reed and Metcalfe did their best work on the last lap
Did the track tack up later in the night? it wasn't entirely apparent on TV.
I need to hit refresh before I post, I thought i was the only one.
@BD, I understand your thought about RV not being the fastest, but it's hard to argue something that is measurable. It's how Stewart got that damn nickname... But being fastest doesn't always equal wins, look at Tickle's race, 4th fastest lap time and a win. Where did he start the moto? I don't remember.
Tickle started the race behind the guy with the fastest lap time, and beat him by having consistant fast times. It would be interesting to see all their lap times (there may be another site that provides that info). It's fun to see who had the fastest time, but you can't draw any more conclusions than that. Maybe James could have gone faster or maybe not, but why would he after RV went down?
I dont know about you guys, but I'm just glad that Mikey Alessi missed another main event.
It looked like RV was pushin the limits for how his bike was setup that night, he surely didn't look comfortable even when he was leadin. On nights like that early in the season the championship will take more than raw speed . In hindsight it probably would've been better to dial it back a little early on and settle on being the hunter but when ur in the mix its kinda hard to do but I hope he does.
Yeah, there was no need to push, James had a decent gap most of the race. However in Villopoto's case he did exactly what he needed to do, it just didn't go quite right. The second spill he had looked more like a momentary loss of focus, cause it didn't seem traction related, just hung his front on a rut that was making a wider arc than his body had intentions of.
I don't know whats up with Mike... It almost seems like he's intentionally blowing it. Though at one point wasn't he at best a top 5 sx guy? We've added a few more players since then.
you can see all the lap times for all heats and mains for everyone at: www.amasupercross.com
They also have live times and scoring during practices and races
if you go to the chart it shows all the times for each lap for the whole race
What would be good for the "sign of the times" is to add another column for average lap time. That way we would get single fastest lap and their average for the race. This would be a more telling story and arm the bench racers.
Just a thought and not hard to provide as all the data is already recorded.
when they are going to show the race live i like to watch times for the practices and qualifying while it's happening.
I thinks its easier to keep focus setting your goal based on what you truly can control that night and how it will effect the championship race. I thought he set that goal a little too high that night. He saw it slippin out of reach and thats when he lost focus of things.
Good link. You get segment times, lap by lap times, and they give you the min, max, ave.
The first 10 laps you can see that JS and RV where trading fastest lap times. Even after RV went down he started putting up faster times. Sign-o-times, just post the link to the ama lap page with each rendition.
Open Class,,, thats simply becuase RV was trying to catch up, and JS was cruising.. RV had an extremly hard time getting by Reed.
Hey mr Chase Stallo you may be the only person other than me that studies the lap times and lap charts and all more than me cause you write this article. Noe for all of you that dont know where to get all of the info go to amasupercros.com or live timing if you can navigate your puter half as good as I can and Im not the best by far you shold be able to find the same infor Chase uses. There are some very interesting things you can figure out from this info and even figure the race out in your head ! A lot of intersting stuff there.... You are welcome for the info and now all of you can make some educated statments. Reed got faster as he got through the traffic and the end of the race..
PS: Winning practice ils not important why do they call it practice???? In the race ilt means something because you are gonna lay your fastest lap when you have to dig the deepest to catch or get by someone AKA Reed last lap shows who wanted it the most!!
I have to think JS7 backed it down in the main he forced the issue off the start blitzing into 2nd then sat on RV the same way RV sat on him when JS crashe these to guys are playin cat & mouse with eachother and it has back fired on both of them! The LAP JS7 laid down in the heat in the 53 range should let all the doubters no he still is the "fastest" guy on the circuit! I felt bad for Rv he just couldnt catch a break! I hope he comes back angry this weekend!
That lap he threw isnt all that impressive, it was actually a"43" range and was around a second faster then anyone in his heat, about how RV's fastest in the main was a second faster then anyone, "except stewart of course".... AND to the guy that said do the "AVERAGE" laptimes, common sense should tell you the riders average laptimes will be in the same order as they finished DUH!
@RD,,, I think they want to see """"consistant"""" lap times,,,,, DUH !
Hey MXMofo...'believe the hype' Remember that load of crap? That guy could never qualify again and I could care less. So much for the mighty Alessi brothers. Short men syndrome and a bunch of hot air!
Yes it was a 43.9 correct & it was impressive because the guy crashed his brains out twice the last tim he was on the track and to come back in the Heat and lay it down like that?? RV got the holeshot JS7 started 7th off the start fact RV was very fast with a clear track ahead of him and yes and eye-lash faster than JS but from the 43.9 my point is he had more in the tank! Your just bein SILLY Mr. NO-NAME...
I too would like to see an average lap time as well, of course an average of all 20 laps would be useless since it would be the same as the race finish how about for the 15 fastest laps of each rider. Here you go for this week: 1 James Stewart 48.669 2 Chad Reed 49.008 3 Dungey 49.034 Not sure of RVs ranking but his average was 49.296
Dungey was the only rider to not have a lap time over 50 seconds Stewart and Reed had 3 villopoto had 8 Pretty amazing especially considering RD jumped off the track and had to reenter the track at one point.
Reed logged his 3 fastest laps in the last 4 laps that and a slow down of RD made the pass possible Good job CR
they do have averages and the guy with the best average placed third. its a good tool to see how consistent your rider is but doesn't mean anything for placement.
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/04/sxm1ind.pdf
Stosh635,,, I remember that very well.. I was at Millville in '04 when those t-shirts were being worn. Not a good way to enet the pro ranks,, but Mike did rid well that day..
I do agree, since they're bothering to do a fastest lap article (even though the info is available somewhere else), it would be cool to compare it to their average.
@openclass
"Just a thought and not hard to provide as all the data is already recorded."
It's even easier than that! The guy with the fastest average laptimes (provided he does all twenty) is the winner of the race.
Do you think B.A.M. means bad Ass Mother@%$&*! ?
Whats interesting is the average lap times for laps 2-20 is: JS 49.282 RD 49.236 CR 49.310
Mxmofo, didn't 800 crash his brains out in the whoops at milville, in his first pro race?. And erin bates (or was it jaimie little?) was interviewing him right afterwards. The second race at steel city is where he rode good, and got on the podium, behind r/c and kdub. Oh, and where the hell is that guy now?????????? He stirred up some crap with those shirts, and his comments, for sure. It was right exactly when stewart was set to move up, for 2005.
Mike Alessi is to supercross what Ralph Shaheen is to supercross announcing....simply amazing
Trick,, you may be right,, but I was thinking he got a 3rd place in one of the motos.. He was on a Honda 450. He was one of the vry few doing the Holy Schmidt.
Mike Alessi does not even want to be out there in SX.. He's not even trying.. He's just a wuss.. I bet DeCoster is piiiiiiiisssssed...
@BD You have to understand the rain started before the mains, no way was JS RV RD or anyone getting close to the 43 mark with conditions, point is when RV and JS are out there together in the main RV always seems to be just a hair faster. But who knows were early in the season
mxmofo, he got a 4th and 5th for 3rd o/a. And passed a lot of guys to do it. Actually, we were all believing the hype (for about ten minutes).
I was thinking he did well there. Not to take anything away from him, but the comp was weak.
I don't remember who was there at the time, mxmofo. But, it sure was an improvement over the weekend before, where he got something like a 25-28 at millville. I remember he had the bullseye on his pants.
This is the second week in a row that RV Park had the fastest lap time. I hope that they dont keep calling James the fastest man on the planet. I am sick of it.
Eric,,, sorry to dissapoint you, but he's in the points lead right now, so the
" fastest man on the planet " applies...
Eric,, do you agree with RC being called the GOAT ?
I hope RV learns that he doesn't always need to be the fastest out there to win. He probably wanted to make another statement, but it was slippery in the main.
RC4 = the GOAT... no one can deny that. As for the fastest man on the planet... I would bet RC4's average speed in his outdoor races were much faster than JS7's supercross speeds. I know you will say apples to oranges but I am just say'n. Now that RV2 is putting in the fastest laps in SX, what can stewart claim... Ex-fastest man on the planet?
So if JS7 is claiming to be fastest man on the planet when he is loosing to RC4, he must have been making that claim based on his fastest lap, cause it sure wasn't because he ever beat the GOAT for a championship. Now that JS7 no longer is putting in the fastest lap... he can no longer make the fastest man claim!
JS7 is indeed the fastest man on earth. he set the fastest lap of the night. He is always the fastest rider in timed practice. His heat race lap time was sick. Even the goat knows who has the speed. just deal with it.
Paulf. Think you will find the rider with fastest average lap time did not win the race. That went to Dungey. Intresting to see Reeds last seven lap average bettered dungy's total. Yep I have a lot of spare time at work.
Fastest man on the planet? He's not even the fastest man in the state! (florida) RC owns that one! WAIT FOR IT>>>>> WAIT FOR IT>>>> CRASH!!!!! RV is the next RC and we know how hard it was for James when RC raced. Even the semi-retired RC was smokin JS7.... at will.
mxjoe99,, Funny, I sure dont remeber RC beating JS " at will " in SX... I'm also thinking that RV has crashed more this yar than JS has.. Are you watching the races ?? Evedentially, your not..
Old_Guy_3,,, How can RC be called the GOAT ?? I sure dont remember him racing against Hannah, Bailey, Johnson, Lechien, Ward, etc, etc... Do you ??
Shakur357, Stewie did not have the fastest lap. Read the article again. RV2 has had the fastest laps at least twice this year. Stewie is not the fastest guy anymore, and he wasnt when RC was racing either. Its why RC beat Stewie for EVERY major title they raced for. Oh , and its good for you to come back, havent heard from you for what, a year? Oh right. Stewie wasnt racing, so you wasnt watching.
mxmofo, are you serious?? You deny that RC is the best ever because of when he was born?? He couldnt race thoise guys because of his age, get real. He has 102 outdoors wins and 10 titles, and 5 supercross titles. And did it all while racing both series every year, never just sat one out to take a break. that alone says who the best is. And I remember RC beating Stewie alot pretty easily. When Stewie was behind RC trying to run him down and crashing. RC cruises to victory, but its because Stewie crashed right?? Bull. RC is the GOAT. If you deny that, your comments on here mean nothing to me.
bd200,,, prove to me that RC could beat Hannah and all those others ??? You can't !!! RC was the greatest of his era,, thats it..
That is the dumbest question I have ever heard.. Prove to me that Hannah could have beaten RC, you cant. Prove to me that either could haver beaten Decoster at his peak, you cant. You could do this all day, its dumb. Just because I'm not kissing Stewies butt, you dont have to say RC isnt the GOAT. Everyone except you and Stewie (who said RC shouldnt be called the GOAT on Racer X once) says he is the GOAT. I remeber Hannah (who I am a big fan of) getting beat alot. RC 102 outdoor wins. Hannah 37. Just like you said in the lap times. The numbers are there. Hannah won one overall his last season in 1985. RC ran an abbreviated season in his final year of 2007, and was out of shape and hardly riding, he won all 5 overalls. Beat Stewie by over 30 seconds at Southwick. He is THE GOAT!! hands down.
bd200,, are you that stupid ??? No one is saying Hannah is the GOAT... If you go by championships, then yes,, but head to head is another story that cant be proven.
you guys are sticking up for the goat then listen to what he says stewart is the fastest on the track even when he was racing. as the tracks get harder thats when we will c stewart shine like vegas whoop section jump or the triple triple in Atlanta he was the only rider who could do it and it made up a lot of time
bd200,, you are wrong.. RacerX did an interview with Lechein not to long ago,, and he said no one can be called the GOAT. You can't prove it..
bd200,,, here is what RL said,,,,
So you don’t look at James Stewart and think, I was about that fast?
No way man, no way. Everything is different though; I don’t think you can really compare eras. Everything is different, the bikes, the tracks. Back then we didn’t have uniform track builders. Every town we went to, it was a different crew. Now the whoops are the same … once you do the triple at Anaheim 1, you did it all year. It makes for better racing.
http://www.racerxcanada.com/news/3181/5-minutes-with-...-ron-lechien/
MXmofo is a dumbshit... everyone but him will agree on that. So, mxmofo, you have been donned the 'dumbest poster on the planet'
Congratulations!
Great comeback !!! I love that you are so proud of yourself that you think you speak for everyone,, bd200.
Its so embarrasing to get proven wrong,, that you cant even you your real name.. What a moron..
43.9 WAS STEWIES LAP TIMES IN HIS HEAT RACE....WHO CARES WHAT THE LAP TIMES WERE IN THE MUD FILLED MAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STILL THE FASTEST MAN ON THE PLANET................NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
Yet agian the #7 bandwagon riders are here in full force. Poto will win this SX title.... hes faster than James and has the capability to go even faster when pushed... James will be retired by #2 in the next year or so..... so please.... just keep riding ol'number sevens nutsack becuase its only a matter of time before hes done. Funny.... James wont set foot on a national track aslong as Poto is on the gate.... BECAUSE HE KNOWS BETTER!
chadley,, who has the points lead right now ??? Oh , and JS is going to ride the nationals.. You tell poeple to get off JS's nutsack, while you're suckin' on RV's.
Ricky always said stewart was faster than him. He said "i am not the fastest guy, and I never was. I'm just the best guy at winning championships" Direct quote. The fastest guy doesn't always win the championship, the smartest guy does. But, I do think ricky was faster outdoors, even though he wont admit it.
trick,,, I think JS was faster outdoors,,, not by much,,, but RC was in MUCH MUCH better shape..
a 2 point lead isnt much of a "lead" and just one mistake and its back to chasing mxmofo..... So what your telling me is.... 7 is going to get a perfect season agian? LOL seriously dude..... RV is going to destroy Stewart outdoors.... this i cant wait to see.
chadley,, a lead is a lead, like a win is a win,,, doesnt matter by how much,, does it ?? I dony remember saying anything about JS having a perfect season... Show me were I said that ?
mxmofo, first I didnt write that childish crap about you. Second I WASNT proven wrong. And why do I care about Ron Leichen says, this was between me and you. And take your moron crap and shove it up your AS@. If you want to be childish and name calling, then I'm done with your immature as#. I should have known how childish you are, with a name like mofo, does that get the dudes at the freestyle ramp all worked up for you too bro'??
wow,, now you're a liar !!!
mxmofo, I like both riders, but I think stewart took a rough road, moving up when he did, in 2005, because it was right in the midst (or end) of the 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke transition. Stewart was racing a 450f outdoors for the first time ever, and ricky already had 2 full seasons on it (one of which was a 24-0) not to mention a few years on a 250 2 stroke. So, ricky definitely had the experience on him. Maybe if he didn't retire from full time in 2007, bubba might have caught up in the following years, as he adapted to the much different machine (125kx vs. kx450f). But, it was what it was, and I think ricky was the fastest outdoor rider ever. But it was close. If they were the same age, we would have been in for a real treat, as they moved up together, thru the ranks.
chadley75, you think rv will destroy stewart outdoors? That doesn't sound right. While it is true, that stewart hasn't had much outdoor racing in the last 2 years, neither has rv. Stewart has won 24 consecutive motos outdoors, on a 450f, and some say he had no comp (because 800 was right behind, him til he got hurt). But rv has only raced and won 2 consecitive outdoor o/a's, and again 800 was right behind him. So, on what are you basing this prediction? rv was a badass on that kx125, but he has yet to prove much outdoors on a 450f. But, it might turn out to be a great battle, i hope so, but rv DESTROYING stewart? Ssomebody else help me here, please.
@Andrew
OK, I guess you're right, I was taking overall race time and dividing by 20. If you remove the start lap as it's not a true lap and only use the remaining 19 whole laps then Dungey was indeed faster. Interesting ...
@mxmofo
I guess the problem is that the GOAT is an idea dreamed up by the motocross community to describe RC based on his wins/championships/raw speed/courage/and whatever else. There's no hard and fast rules of GOAT-ness to let you compare riders of different eras. You can argue if you like, and to be fair some of your arguments may be valid, but for me I haven't seen anyone else (yet) worthy of the name but RC.
@Andrew
Hang on a minute! Why would you exclude the first lap? It's part of the race isn't it? I think Stewart may have been faster after all ... ;-)
Are you ignorant? RV won asll 3 titles in the lites class, which no one has done since. Beat RC and Chad Reed in the motocross of nations on a 250F along with alot of other great riders. Then in 2009 he went 1-1 for the day in his debut race in the 450 class. How is he not impressive... Motocross is RV's anyone who doesnt think he is going to win the MX title doesnt know much about motocross.
@trick
I kind of agree, I'm an RV fan and he definitely could (and maybe should) win the outdoors this year it's long overdue after all. Only bad luck (and I hate to say it, maybe James Stewart) could beat him.
ps. That RV MXDN performance was awesome but I'm pretty sure RC crashed or got a horrible start that last moto.
@poster with no name, who calls himself "@trick", and calls other people names on here......
Did I not say that rv was a badass on the lites bike? (Yeah, i meant 250f, but it will ALWAYS be the 125 class to ME.) Rv DID devastate the mxon on a 250f, but I am talking about him being on a 450f. Stewart did some pretty cool stuff in the lites also, winning 28 consecutive moto's, and breaking r/c's record. Do you think rv was a more dominant lites rider outdoors than stewart? He did win one more title than stewart (because stewart lost the second one, by missing the first four rounds due to injury, then won all the rest, very convincingly).. RV was challenged in all three of his title years, and came out on top. And its true, rv won his debut 450 outdoor race, but 800 was 2nd o/a, and 800 won the next 2, before he wrenched HIS knee. That doesn't say much for the rest of the field does it? Yeah i know 800 was on a suzuki, but he is not exactly a front runner anymore, is he?. If you think rv was a better lites rider than stewart, maybe it is you who "dont know much about motocross". Lets keep it friendly, no more name calling OK?
mxmofo, its funny you think you are important enough to think I would waste time lying to you. If I was going to call you something I would say it period, not act like someone else, you arent that important.
Also, in response to:
"RV won asll 3 titles in the lites class, which no one has done since"
It's only been 2 years since rv left the lites class, so how could someone else do it "since".............?
CP almost did it 2 years in a row, if not for a couple of mishaps, an engine and an arm.
And, if he was racing it for a third year, he might very well get it done this time.