by Steve Cox
Pala Race Report
Saturday, September 11, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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In this article…
Riders
- Dean Wilson
- Mike Alessi
- Chris Pourcel
- Justin Barcia
- Brett Metcalfe
- Josh Grant
- Wil Hahn
- Chris Pourcel
- Jake Weimer
- Justin Brayton
- Andrew Short
- Ryan Sipes
- Les Smith
- Eli Tomac
- Kevin Windham
- Blake Wharton
- Tyla Rattray
- Kyle Regal
- Martin Davalos
- Cole Seely
- Ryan Dungey
- Broc Tickle
- Nick Wey
- Trey Canard
- Kyle Chisholm
Races
Champions aren’t just defined by how they finish in the points standings of any series, or how many races they win. Sometimes, champions are defined by how they handle losing. And while the 450cc championship has been over for basically a month, and the WMX title chase was a longshot at best for Ashley Fiolek to beat Jessica Patterson, the 250cc championship came down to the very last round with barely more than a handful of points separating two genuine champions in every sense of the word. Chris Pourcel is a former MX World Champ and two-time SX Lites champ, while Trey Canard is also a former SX Lites champ, and seven points stood between them as they tackled Pala Raceway today.
250cc
The 250cc scenarios coming into Pala were all mathematical. GEICO Powersports Honda’s Trey Canard needed to make up seven points on rival Chris Pourcel of the Monster Energy/Pro Circuit Kawasaki squad in two motos if Canard was going to have a chance at the AMA National Championship. However, first place only gives the winner three points more than second place, so if the race went just like Steel City had, with Canard winning both motos over Pourcel, Pourcel would be the champion anyway. That’s how the math worked, so everyone seemed to be wondering who, if anyone, could get between the two dominant racers.
However, as is often the case, the mathematics didn’t end up coming into play at all.
Dean Wilson went 1-1 to win his second AMA National of the year.
Photo: Steve Cox
In the first moto, Pourcel’s teammate Dean Wilson grabbed the holeshot and split while TLD/Lucas Oil Honda’s Cole Seely ran second, Wilson’s teammate Tyla Rattray ran third, Pourcel ran fourth, and Canard ran fifth. While Wilson was running away with it, most of the attention was on Pourcel and Canard, as Canard passed Pourcel a couple of times, only for Pourcel to get him right back and then begin to pull away a bit. Then, on lap six, Canard was attempting yet another pass on Pourcel when he went in too hot into a tight turn and overshot the berm, going down. Canard remounted in eighth and began to move back forward again while Pourcel moved past Seely and into third (Rattray had already passed Seely a lap earlier for second).
It was looking like the championship was over, but soon the announcers began talking about how Canard’s times were three seconds a lap faster than Pourcel’s, and Canard was 15 seconds behind with about seven laps left. Doing the math, it sounded like we would end up with a race in the moto between the two anyway.
However, only two laps later, the crowd reacted to something big that had happened, and then Pourcel didn’t come around. He had gone over the bars on a small but tricky step-up jump into a turn and dislocated his right shoulder.
Moto two saw another Wilson holeshot and disappearing act while Canard ran second, Rattray third, DNA Shred Stix/Star Racing Yamaha’s Martin Davalos fourth, the Honda of Troy’s Les Smith and the rest of the field. Eventually, Canard gave way to the charging Rattray, but he ended up holding on to third. After the moto, it was official: Trey Canard was the 2010 AMA 250cc National Motocross Champion.
On the podium, for probably the 12th race in a row, Canard was greeted to chants of "USA!" which he graciously accepted, but throughout the series, Pourcel has been mocked and belittled by the American crowds at the podiums as many fans have told him to "go home" and other similar things. The implication at Pala was that, by winning, Canard had won the championship for the USA, stopping a Frenchman from winning the title.
However, those fans should’ve stuck around to see what transpired after the race, as a couple of hours later, outside the GEICO Powersports Honda rig, Chris Pourcel showed up, his right arm in a sling supporting a badly swollen shoulder, and asked Canard for one of the championship shirts Fox had made up that said, "Every Moto Counts" on the front. Sadly, the team was out of the shirts, so instead, Canard brought out his race helmet, which he had signed on the back to read, "Thanks for the great season, Trey Canard". Pourcel rejected it, laughing, saying it wasn’t funny enough, so Canard returned to the rig, then came back and had added something about "The Duck" ("Canard" is French for "duck"), and Pourcel happily accepted.
Pourcel then proceeded to tell Canard that he wasn’t happy to have lost, but he said that Canard deserved to win the championship, and he congratulated his rival on his performance. Canard was touched by the whole thing. You see, last year at High Point, Canard had Pourcel beaten in moto two, which would’ve been Canard’s first-ever AMA National win, but Pourcel dogged him the whole way, and with about two laps to go, Canard switched lines on a tricky jump and went over the bars, breaking his arm badly. Pourcel won the overall that day. And Pourcel also made it a point to go over to the GEICO rig that day to tell Canard that he was sorry he was hurt and compliment Canard on how he was riding that day.
Trey Canard is your 2010 AMA 250cc National MX Champion.
Photo: Steve Cox
As the two racers move on to the 450cc class in supercross next year (along with many other contenders, such as Jake Weimer, Brett Metcalfe and more), we may have witnessed the beginning of a friendly but serious rivalry, where the two racers have almost as much respect for each other as they do desire to win. It’s just unfortunate that the fans don’t have as much respect for Pourcel as Canard does, or for that matter, as Pourcel does for Canard.
450cc
Honda Red Bull Racing’s Andrew Short has had his starts dialed all season, and it continued in moto one, when he stole the holeshot from champion Ryan Dungey of the Rockstar/Makita Suzuki team and then proceeded to try and make a run for it. But Dungey wasn’t having any of it and, on lap four, finally made a pass stick on Short for the lead. But since the championship was already decided, the main points battle was between Short and GEICO Powersports Honda’s Brett Metcalfe, who carried a few points on Short coming into Pala.
Ryan Dungey went 1-1 yet again at Pala, setting a new rookie win record for the premier class.
Photo: Steve Cox
Metcalfe started outside the top five and moved into fourth before the end of the first lap. It took him a few laps of trying before he could make a pass stick on MCRMX Yamaha’s Ryan Sipes, who was riding extremely well in third, and then Metcalfe set off after Short. Six laps later, Metcalfe made a pass stick on his friendly Honda rival and took over the runner-up spot, and that’s how they would finish, with Dungey taking a massive win over Metcalfe, Short, Sipes, Kyle Regal, Ben Townley, Kevin Windham and Mike Alessi.
Now, many of the racers, including Wilson, Short, Dungey, Canard, Metcalfe, Townley and Pourcel (if he can) will be preparing for their final race of the year at the Motocross of Nations in Colorado in two weeks time.
WMX
With 22 points in hand coming into Pala, it was a foregone conclusion that Jessica Patterson was going to wrap up her sixth women’s title, defeating the defending champ Ashley Fiolek, and with a moto-one win, the championship could be clinched altogether.
Jessica Patterson is now a six-time women's MX champ.
Photo: Steve Cox
Patterson did what she had to do in the first moto, taking the win over the tenacious Fiolek and Vicki Golden. In moto two, though, Fiolek turned one of her customary rocket starts into a strong performance, and with only a few laps to go, Patterson went down pretty hard just past the finish-line jump and took a smack to her ribs, which she hurt in her big crash at the X Games. She wisely cruised it in for second to secure second overall. After all, the title was already hers. Fiolek won the overall, while Golden was third overall.
Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship
Pala Motocross National
Pala Raceway
September 11, 2010
Round 12 of 12
450 Class (Moto Finish)
- Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki (1-1)
- Andrew Short, Smithville, Texas, Honda (3-2)
- Brett Metcalfe, Australia, Honda (2-3)
- Ben Townley, New Zealand, Honda (6-4)
- Ryan Sipes, Vine Grove, Ky., Yamaha (4-6)
- Kyle Chisholm, Valrico, Fla., Yamaha (9-5)
- Kevin Windham, Centreville, Miss., Honda (7-8)
- Justin Brayton, Fort Dodge, Iowa, Yamaha (12-7)
- Kyle Regal, Kemp, Texas, Honda (5-14)
- Nick Wey, Dewitt, Mich., Kawasaki (11-9)
450 Class Championship Standings
- Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki, 543
- Brett Metcalfe, Australia, Honda, 398
- Andrew Short, Smithville, Texas, Honda, 393
- Ben Townley, New Zealand, Honda, 321
- Mike Alessi, Victorville, Calif., KTM, 314
- Kyle Chisholm, Valrico, Fla., Yamaha, 266
- Josh Grant, Riverside, Calif., Yamaha, 260
- Ryan Sipes, Vine Grove, Ky., Yamaha, 234
- Kyle Regal, Kemp, Texas, Honda, 224
- Nick Wey, Dewitt, Mich., Kawasaki, 223
250 Class (Moto Finish)
- Dean Wilson, Scotland, Kawasaki (1-1)
- Tyla Rattray, South Africa, Kawasaki (2-2)
- Trey Canard, Shawnee, Okla., Honda (4-3)
- Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda (8-4)
- Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda (6-5)
- Cole Seely, Newbury Park, Calif., Honda (3-12)
- Wil Hahn, Decatur, Texas, Honda (7-7)
- Broc Tickle, Holly, Mich., Yamaha (5-9)
- Martin Davalos, Ecuador, Yamaha (14-6)
- Les Smith, York, S.C., Honda (13-11)
250 Class Championship Standings
- Trey Canard, Shawnee, Okla., Honda, 474
- Tyla Rattray, South Africa, Kawasaki, 446
- Christophe Pourcel, France, Kawasaki, 443
- Dean Wilson, Scotland, Kawasaki, 437
- Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda, 348
- Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda, 327
- Broc Tickle, Holly, Mich., Yamaha, 287
- Blake Wharton, Pilot Point, Texas, Honda, 285
- Martin Davalos, Ecuador, Yamaha, 251
- Wil Hahn, Decatur, Texas, Honda, 213
WMX Class (Moto Finish)
- Ashley Fiolek, St. Augustine, Fla., Honda (2-1)
- Jessica Patterson, Tallahassee, Fla., Yamaha (1-2)
- Vicki Golden, El Cajon, Calif., Yamaha (3-6)
- Tarah Gieger, Winter Gardens, Fla., Honda (7-3)
- Mariana Balbi, Brazil, Yamaha (5-5)
- Alexah Pearson, Rocklin, Calif., Yamaha (9-4)
- Sherri Cruse, Bakersfield, Calif., Suzuki (8-7)
- Tatum Sik, Temecula, Calif., Yamaha (6-9)
- Sarah Whitmore, Cheboygan, Mich., KTM (11-8)
- Jacqueline Strong, Sedona, Ariz., Yamaha (10-14)
WMX Class Championship Standings (After 8 of 8 Rounds)
- Jessica Patterson, Tallahassee, Fla., Yamaha, 382
- Ashley Fiolek, St. Augustine, Fla., Honda, 360
- Tarah Gieger, Winter Gardens, Fla., Honda, 295
- Vicki Golden, El Cajon, Calif., Yamaha, 252
- Mariana Balbi, Brazil, Yamaha, 239
- Sara Price, Canyon Lake, Calif., Kawasaki, 230
- Sarah Whitmore, Cheboygan, Mich., KTM, 219
- Alexah Pearson, Rocklin, Calif., Yamaha, 202
- Tatum Sik, Temecula, Calif., Yamaha, 179
- Jacqueline Strong, Sedona, Ariz., Yamaha, 154
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Wow congratulations Canard and Dungey. Bad luck for Pourcel but he showed great sportsmanship in defeat. But go Metcalfe, that's awesome 2nd in first crack at a 450. Hope he can grab the title next year, so happy for him. Hey did anybody do the fantasy motocross thing? I did and although I was happy to finish in the top 3 hundred I noticed some of my picks got changed somehow. I noticed the last round it said I'd picked riders that I've never picked. Did this happen to anybody else?
Great piece on Canard and Pourcel he is a true sportsman..Cant wait to see them in the 450's next year..
Congratulations to 'le Duck'! Truly saddened to hear that about the fans and Pourcel. American riders do not get that kind of treatment over here in Europe. Great to hear that whole story about the two after each other's crashes...although...Pourcel did go up to the Duck's rig both in victory and defeat. What a class act!!
Throughout the series Pourcel was mocked and belittled by the American crowds?? Or was it just Steel City where the crowd thought Pourcel flipped off Carnard? There is always a loud mouth or two in a race crowd but genuinely we Americans love great racing. Canard,Pourcel and the rest of the 250 guys put a show to remember. As far as Metty getting a win that may not happen with these two moving up!
Hey pizzaface! Dont be stupid... Thats it
Hey Langston I was at the MX des nations Budds creek 07 and I was not impressed with the European/Russian fans. Leave the fenceline then return (later) wanting their spot back that dont work here in the states and we didnt back down.
Pizzacorner? What are you talking about? Steve Cox liberal? He may be a terrible photographer and he writes like an elementary school drop out but I wouldn't call him liberal. And he didn't start this magazine, he's just one of the people on staff who are ruining it.
"And just like that, the championship was over, even if not everyone knew it just yet."...hic...
That's my opinion - At the first time I've heard to be a real fan is to wish bad luck to another rider. That's not a fan is a real stupid idiot. Ama series always had foreigners but the fans are different than the fans of 90's cause I never listened to booo.. to another rider by respect. If someone loves to belittled riders maybe the guy is better than them. It's a piece of cake, just take you bike out and beat pourcel, and if you can do that you have reasons to say booooooo...
Whoa Steve Cox, Pourcel has been mocked and belittled by the American crowds at the podiums as many fans have told him to "go home" and other similar things, now I'm going to have to agree with what some others have pointed out. They are called "HECKLERS" and EVERY sport has them, and don't turn us all into a bunck of arrogant pr!cks Cox, what the hell. I am an avid fan of Ice Hockey, I have been playing for ten years and I absolutely love the sport. My favorite player is Patrice Bergeron, do you think that name sounds American at all??? no he's not an American!!! And I have a story about Pourcel too, I was at Southwick in the pits when the riders were coming in from practice. Pourcel was THE ONLY rider that I saw come in, take his gear off and go over and signed a few autographs for fans before sitting down to rest. I am a huge Dungey fan but the only autograph he signed was for some spoiled kid that was a VIP, some of the fans were pretty pissed that he couldn't acknowledge them even for just a second or two and sign a couple autographs. Wouldn't be surprised if Dungey lost a few fans at the 'wick while Pourcel probably gained a few, just seeing that earned my respect.
Also, has anyone else realized that Ryan Dungey won 19 of 24 motos on the season!!!
robj, you have some good well made points about Pourcel.I always liked him, and after his podium talk at Steel City he showed that he has class to go along with his likable wit.
The reason Pourcel is resented relates to him being in the 250 class sandbagging. However that is Mitch's fault as he likes to back door the championship any way he can. So personally I boo Pro Circuit silently by not purchasing any of their products and I have enjoyed watching The Frenchman ride he reminds me of Bayle.
Regarding Dungey, these guys are required to perform at a level most of us will never fully understand; don't expect them to worry about the fans while they're focusing on the race. There's plenty of time for that before and afterward. As for the hecklers, true, they are present in all forms of sport and elsewhere, but it's ugly nonetheless. Unfortunately, Cox makes it sound like it's an American thing. When Brad Lackey went to Europe to race for the GP championship, the closer he got, the further he needed to stay away from the fences ... because the fans over there would literally hit him with things! Yesterday, when Canard went down, I groaned aloud at the TV (hooked to the laptop), but when Pourcel went down, I was also bummed; I hated to see it decided that way. That brings me to a question, though: how is it that a championship leader and a race leader both went down during the day, and there wasn't ONE camera pointed at either of them? Hello?! That's not the first time it's happened this year. Something to improve for next year. Congrats to Metty on taking the "vice-championship," Wilson and Rattray on a strong day and series, and hey, our MXdN team went one-two on the day in 450s, and our MX1 and MX2 guys are champs! Nice way to head into Colorado!
I was at Delmont right in front of the podium when people were booing Pourcel. I figured it was because of the typical French rider interview where they come off as "holier than thou", arrogant. and everyone else is a peasant attitude (I heard nothing about a middle finger). Canard then took his interview time to chastise the crowd saying not to boo Chris and that he was a competitor out there working hard like everyone else (another class act move by Canard). I don't believe it to be a title chase thing and it's definately not a "foreigner" thing. Anyone remember JMB. He got booed like no one I have ever seen and he was always battleing the all American Stanton. It seems like even when they win (French riders) they still do an interview that is "snobby" and off putting. This is where the distaste comes from. I liked the story Cox gave. It put CP in a better light that I was not aware of. It's nice knowing that this could be the future of our sport. I look forward to it.
Sef, you're obviously too ignorant to see the point I was making. Dungey wasn't in a championship hunt at Southwick, all he had to do was finish ahead of fricking Andrew Short to CLINCH the championship, like he had any difficulty doing that the entire year??? Pourcel was at Southwick with what, a 13 point lead? and he made time to sign a few autographs for the fans, without the fans there is no sport of motocross.......Plus Dungey already has a championship to his name with last years 250 title, where once again Pourcel was battling DOWN TO THE WIRE for a championship. Don't you think Pourcel would be granted more of a reason to ignore fans in order to concentrate on the race, due to him failing last season? Didn't think I would have to explain myself, but from the people that post on here it doesn't surprise me
Sef, regarding Lackey, that was a different world in those days. But when he won the championship, the crowd in Luxembourg lifted him up in the air and showed him their respect.
robj, didn't you know? Sef is one of only a couple of people on here that knows ANYTHING. Just ask him.
even in motocross now we cant be passionate about our usa riders, it was a great series with those 2, Pourcel is an amazing rider and I think better the carnard overall, but carnards good ole "AMERICAN" determination got it done. And yes the euro fans treat the Americans the same way over there, they freaking thru bottles at sterwart in the MXDN. I agree there is a line that should not be crossed but there is nothing wrong with routing for your countryman. GET OVER IT....COX
@ridenbutter I don't know how many GP's you've been into, but in the ones i've been, not a single persoon booed Osborne, Leib or Albertson. MXDN is quite a different animal though. A lot of patriotic drunken people around in there.
Pourcel lost last years Title do to an issue out of his control. This year tho,his dnf that cost him 25 points was on him. I didn`t like watching the 1st moto tho it was a Canard love fest. He was the only rider they were showing ,only time Pourcel got t.v time was he was battling with Trey.@ one point after Trey crashed Weigandt [spelling?] said look @ the speed Trey is riding with . He was 4 seconds off Wilsons lap time,and 1 off Pourcel n Ratray. And yet hey showed Trey not Pourcel probably 85% of the time which is why we didn`t see Pourcels crash. After Pourcel was out then they gave Wilson some time.Just didn`t get that. And those two guys Christophe n Trey are great racers and class acts.With or without the man above,way to go Trey n never giving up. Those guys are awesome ..they as n Wilson ,Christophe,Trey,seems Tyla is good people to. That track with that soft soil mixed in was unpredictable. Dungey ,incredable,I didn`t read Stewi`s "letter." But im sure it it read something like Ryan is going @ a speed im not ready for .
Trey and Chris are whats right with our sport! I am a fan, American, and damn proud to be American, I make no excuses. I cheer for a rider and cheer against his rival, Just like I cheer for the Cowboys and "Hate " The Eagles. But I NEVER wish harm/injury on any competitor. I am a bigger fan of sportmanship, and both Chris and Trey are true sportsman.
And bd200 you made a comment about Stewi saying that he thought Chad would not like the Kawi. Then you said something like well its worked out well for RV2. Whats your opinion of doing well ? Because as I recall,and i`ve been wrong before,but all RV2 has done is crash outt of every series over the last 2 years,right ? outdoor 2 seasons ago,then sx this previous season,which made him miss this years outdoors. just so what is your opinion of doing pretty well ? just curious. Not an insult to you.RV2 just has to get used to the power of the 450,most champions go through it their first couple years.
I'm sure this is going to get a response from some, but what is the point of telling another person to "Go Home". Is it jealousy? I am from Canada but I live in the states and I can't tell you how many people I have met who may be the most honest and sincere people I have ever met. Than for the few who chant USA and heckle a kid who comes far from home chasing a dream is pathetic. Grow up and just appreciate the performance. As @fattireguy said, be a fan of sportsmanship.
Trucker2, my opinion is that Reeds season seemed to start out O.K. in the Nationals, but it is obvious that he didnt finish the season because of sickness. But I really cant say if he liked the bike or not, only Reed can answer that. I dont think the bike caused RV2 's crash in supercross, that was a very unsafe jump that was pointed out by several riders. And I dont think Pourcel lost the title last year due to issues out of his control. Canards motto this year was Every moto counts. Including the 2nd moto at Southwick where Pourcel himself admitted to being angry and settling for 8th place. And Dungey tearing it up at Milleville, and Pourcels less than steller results at Washougal, they all contributed to him losing the title. Just like this year him only getting 2 overalls to Canard 5, I think we can all agree that Canard was the fastest this year. 5 overalls to 2 doesnt lie.. It was good to see the respect that they showed to each other though, true professionals leave it all on the track, not carry it to the pits..
I was so bummed for CP when he went down. But I was stoked for TC too in winning the title. I was there and I never will go back again until they figure out the traffic situation. Viewing the track was crap and what hapend to the hillside that was suppose to be all grass? It took us 3 hours to drive the final 6 miles to the track and we missed the first motos and some practice!
Sounded like an exciting day. I live in So Cal and was planning on attending. I drove about 2+ hours to highway 76 and then sat there for 3 hours. Never made it to Pala. Thankfully someone driving in the other direction had a hand written sign that said "Pala is closed". I waited a little while more but since traffic only moved a few inches I turned around and came home-2+ more hours. So about 8 hours in the car. My friend who bought tickets was not allowed to enter because it was filled up! So you buy tickets, sit in traffic, get there and get turned away? That would have been my first visit to Pala but I don't think I'll go near that place again. And all the local people, if they find out it was a motocross event that ruined their day they will hate us even more. Thanks Pala, for not getting with the local authorities and Police to work out better traffic control. Hopefully Glen Helen will get the event back. But if it goes to Pala again I will stay home, watch it online and not be frustrated all day. Long live Glen Helen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CaptainCanuck, it sucks. There are people from Europe who are on this site alot who root for anyone other than an American, no matter where that rider is from, as long as it isnt an American. The is NOTHING wrong with chanting USA and rooting for your countryman. Everyone does it. But to chant "go home" is kinda childish and ugly. But it happens. I got alot of that when I traveled Europe. ALOT of it. Its sad really. But it comes from both sides of the pond, not just here. The European fans cheer for any Euro rider over any American, why is that. Is it hate, or what. Most of the time the rider isnt from the persons home country, but he is racing against Americans, so the cheer for him. I think ALL should appreciate the performance, most real fans do. Alot of former GP racers have large fan bases here. So it is a small minority who does that. It doesnt belong at the track or in the sport. Cheer for your favorite riders, but dont heckle a rider and make yourself look ugly.
How can a guy buy a ticket and not get let into the race?? What a bunch of bullcrap. That really sucks. Hopefully they can get it figured out. I know its hard to tell on TV. But the track didnt look that crowded. It definately didnt look sold out.
I was not a 377 fan last year or the beginning of this year. But he showed me some great improvements in his dealing with us USA fans and i came around. True i wonted 38 to win the championship but but i really liked seeing the great racing between them and the rest of the class. I think 377 is a amazing rider and he is starting to like it here in the states. Now for my man RD1 28.665 lead in the 1 moto can any one stop him i don't think so cant wait tell next year's motocross. And as for the posters saying Short did not deserve to be on the team i guess he showed you GO TEAM USA! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear ya Kevin_54! so many people said they will never go back! I am just glad it wasnt really hot, because tempers would of flaired up! We had tickets at will call, but we could of walked right in the track free! The viewing lay out of the track sucked! TV next time or I would love to see a better location!
I only want to add this : Crack Kills, Dean Wilson get a belt. Also I have a new drinking game, every time Fro says "Unbelievable!" take a shot.
I did not get in to Pala either. I sat for 2+ hours and only got about half way to the track and was barely moving at all, so I just turned around. By then the first motos were already going. I knew I left the house a little late, I usually like to get to the track super early and watch practice and all that, but I didn't think I would miss the motos. Lame.
NikolaTesla; or how about this drinking game during the womens race, every time they say "JP$" take a shot, you'll be drunk before the race starts. Man it gets annoying, they can't just say Patterson, which would be shorter, they say fricking "J.P. Money" every three seconds..........my girlfriend, the other day asks "who is J.P. Money?" I tell her "It's Jessica Patterson" she goes "why do they call her that?" then I gotta tell her "I have no idea why" and I'm the one that ends up looking stupid, moron announcers making up asinine nicknames.
I'm just curious to see how early all of the people complaining about the traffic got to the race? I live near Washougal and I know I have to leave my house before 6:00 a.m. on the day of the national since there is a long two lane road to get to the track and traffic gets bad once mid morning hits. That is just part of going to any large event held in a rural area. Now I understand that it is likely the organizers of Pala could improve the speed in which cars enter the track, you all have to understand this is their first year having a national. Give it a few years and it will improve. I'm sure most of you complaining have no idea what it takes to host an AMA national, so stop being ignorant and give the guys at Pala a break!
I live 3 and a half hours from the track. We left at 7am traffic was pretty smooth until the last 6 miles to the track that took 3 hours at least.
hey Robj....the ANNOUNCERS didnt make up her name......its on her damn pants for christ sake.......thats what they have called her for years....they meaning EVERYONE.....her butt patch is ...."JP$"
mettau2 i woke up at 7, got the the track around 830, sat in the line for maybe 5 mins tops.. and no real trouble parking at around 9 ish.
tony, not to stick up for rob again but you don't get his point. How the hell is the general public watching the race on tv who know nothing about the sport supposed to know what her butt patch says?
All I have to say is if I'm a racer that got my butt kicked all year by RD and TC I think I'd be going to church more often and thanking the man above! Hey it worked out for them didn't it?
TREY CANNARD FOR PRESIDENT!
Deano was ripping this week i thought it was going to be Tomac from timed practice times he was so fast. Next years 125 "250" racing should be great cant wait. DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason Thomas was called JT$ and then they adopted it for Patterson. True, it's overused.... The traffic situation yesterday sounds like it sucked. Both Unadilla and Southwick (both on two-lane roads) are a little over 100 miles from me; if I leave my house by 10, I'm parked by 12:30. Pala needs to get it together.... robj118, you sound like a real thoughtful guy. Because Dungey has the title nearly clinched, he doesn't need to focus on his job of hammering a factory 450 over a National track for 35+ minutes? Sorry pal, but I'm not accepting your "ignorant" label on that one. Let me know if you see any pro football players signing autographs at halftime today. Props to Pourcel for taking the time, but it shouldn't be expected.... And rainmanx63, I've noticed you're quick to insult your fellow posters. God forbid that I express a different viewpoint from you, right? At least I'm smart enough to know that there's more than one way of looking at something. And I can express it without personal attacks.
"The Duck" should be a nickname that sticks.
sef has spoken
SEF154" Some people just don't have a clue the top riders know if they sigh one they will be there for a hour. I was at MN for the GOATS last race you had to wait in line for a hour to get a ticket to come back in 2 hours to get a autograph and there was only 50 tickets that's it and if you did not have one you were SOL. If you really wont any pro's autograph you can get it you just have to be patient. Hang out in there pits you will get is sooner or later. DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pourcel is a good guy,and its general knowledge that your average American looks down on the French. But, Christophe proved that he didn't come to here to mess around and be a jerk. Also, being at the race yesterday, they must fix the parking. It was a 6 mile gridlock going 1 mph 30 minutes AFTER the first moto started. Fortunately I've learned my lessons from past nationals and brought a bike, but starting a national with a 6 mile bike ride wasn't on my agenda. If there is anything Pala needs to improve between now and next year, it is the traffic situation.
Pala did a great job ! Thank you ! The track was almost loamy, long , rough enuf and practically dust free. Like ssavage10, I had no problems getting into the race. Got up at 7:00 left at 7:45 was in and parked for the 1st 450 practice at 9:00. The place was 1/2 full by then ! What time did you compainers hit the 76 ? 2 hours b4 the main wont get it done.Outdoor NATs are an all day deal, not like SX, you dont sleep in and roll up right b4 the main . Please amr126, 6 mile gridlock 30 MINUTES INTO the first moto ! My only gripe would be that from any point you could only see about 60% of the track. To infer that the locals hate it please, a sold out casino and a percentage of the gate, parking and concession of 30k plus people! GH is dead deal with it! JimM CarlsbadCA I did BTW take the time to look at a map and find an alternate route two exits south. To the 4 or 5 complainers, please do stay away thats 4 of 5 less cars, thank you.
God and Motocross - Can we please stop thanking God, lord can we at least thank the team first, your family, and above all thank your self! What about all the other riders that prayed to win, guess that God had favor on you and let you win today! There is no need for religion and the podium!
Honda's first outdoor lights title since Lamson in '96. Wow, that's a long time. With Canard going to Factory Honda, expect more of this in the future. Sure hope he puts it to Dungey next year and he is the rookie everyone is talking about in 2011 like RD 5 was this year.
I thought Pala did a great job for a first time event. You can't go to a nascar or NFL game a half hour before start time and not have a traffic meltdown. People should be smart enough to know to go early and leave early or tailgate for a while. I'm sure they will be able to improve on the traffic and other things before next year. I thought the track was gnarly and great for great racing. Congratulations to Dean Wilson that was an amazing job he did, that kid is talented, and SUPER COOL!! I hated to se CP377 lose it like that, but Canard really deserved the title as he was the best rider for this series. Great job, Trey
Tough break for Pourcel. The guys is a winner and I was glad to hear about him and Canard talking after the race. Thanks for reporting on that Cox. The red neck dirt people will always suck around at the bottom and miss everything cool. It's what they do. I look forward to seeing Pourcel and Canard on the big bikes next year dicing with Dungey and RV. I think the light may have gone on for Deano (Flying Squirrel) Wilson. I don't think the kid is gonna do much losing next year. Next up, DUNGEY VS. CAIROLI !!!
my wife said it was karma. i told pourcel good luck at the pitt airport and wanted to introduce my 5 year old but he blew me off. my wife commented he was rude. granted it was 5am, but he lost a fan. same crap attitude when he said he was the champion last year. when my wife saw the results last night she said it was karma. can't disagree.
Caroli damaged his ankle and missed 2 nd moto today ! May not ride in mxdn !!! Shame on the few who were giving porcel a hard time he had more commitment than blubber Stewart will ever have !!!!!
I thought it was neat that our 2 national champs are the only ones to acknowledge God on the podium!
Point is JimboMX376 is some people don't like standing around for eight hours just to watch the races start. I've been to the nationals before by 7:00 am and don't need to do that everytime. When I showed up at the MXoN in Budds Creek with 70,000 people the traffic jam wasn't even that bad, and it was on the same type of little 2 lane road. You don't show up to sporting events at any time of the day and sit in a 2 hour line to get in, unless it's a real cluster.
Sef....I wasn't there for an autograph, nor did I think Dungey was a d0uche for not signing any while he was standing right there, I was mearly stating an observation of how Christophe Pourcel "the badguy" as Cox would like to make it look as though we think that of Pourcel, took a few minutes to sign some autographs for some of his fans, while Dungey "the poster child of motocross" had no problem taking his time to sign some autographs FOR THE V.I.P.'S, who obviously were NOT THERE when his autograph session was scheduled, but Dungey did not take a few minutes to sign some young kids posters and/or shirts while he was standing right there, I just think what's fair is fair, ya know what I mean? but instead he walked off and into his motorhome......I'm trying to give Pourcel props and your bagging on me for it........yzsean, learn to spell before you try to start bagging on people.....I've been going to the 'Wick for fourteen years, I know how the deal works.
MXFLA your post sounds selfish, like the me me generation. Many American families still preach God, Guts and guns in there homes.
I HATE HATE HATE Fornicating Dip-**** PALA Raceway. What a Totally screwed up day me and my family had. I bought tickets on-line in advance and never made it. We sat in the car for hours and hours and the traffic only moved inches. What a huge Cluster **** !!!!!!!! I am Pissed and want Glen Helen back. I watched the race on T.V. when we got home that night. It looked like a Muy Lame Track. Glen Helen was way better. I never even want to hear the name Pala again. How do I get my money back ? Anybody know ?
What is the obsession with autographs? Why do so many people feel the need to have someone sign their name for them?
Robj118" I think it is evident to all i spell poorly! I just think it is funny how mutch it bothers every one it does not bother me at all. You can get the just of what i am trying to say in my posts and i never never spell DUNGEY RULES wrong and that's all that really maters! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Number one, get the right guys autograph, just a simple signature on anything and it could be worth A LOT of money in the future....Number two, it's mainly kids that love to get autographs as memorabilia.....just think to be seven or eight years old and you meet your favorite sports star and he/she signs something for you, how great is that? I haven't gotten an autograph since I was 12 years old, which was 14 years ago in my first year going to the Southwick National, I guess you grow out of it after a while........hey YZSEAN, you spelt my name right, thats all that matters to me.....im just giving you crap man, sorry about that
I've followed this since it started. robj was simply giving Pourcel credit for taking the time to sign a couple of autographs when he wasn't expected to. Now it's evolved to this. Some of you guys should read and get the content straight before you shoot off a post. BTW I got a autograph when I was 39, from Decoster, how could I pass that up?
Some of you had a bad experience with pala! Watching the race did make my mouth dry and some faces of jumps looked like wormword instead of straight line ruts. I wonder if all the crossruts played a part in the many wrecks?
sandranger, is that what you say when a girl can outride you? I'll have to remember that one.
I remember reading something halfway through the season about Pourcel: "you're going to be kicking yourself 3 or four years down the road when you realize that you like the guy..." I'm getting there...
COX, I am not sure what races you where speaking of about Pourcel being heckeled, but I did not hear ANY of that at Red bud. I was at the podium after both 250 motos and all I heard was cheers for Canard and chants of Reeed Buuud!!. and a few very loud chants of "TREY!!!"" so loud you could here all of it on the telecast. But no heckling of Pourcel with any chants for him to go home.. LANGSTON_FAN, yes they do that in the GP's too. I dont remeber the rider, but I remember him saying he had bottles thrown at him during the race because he was beating the favorite rider at his home race and he was being treated that way because he was an American. Dont get all high and mighty. There are people like that everywhere. Even at your precious GP races. I got Laroccos autograph, and I was in my 30's, but I happened to have on my Idy 2004 supercross shirt on at the Orlando round. And that was the supercross he just won. So he was very happy to sign that.
Addition: After reading the problems w/ Pala, I'm even more thankful for Thunder Valley; great parking, close to the track... I usually drive right up and don't sit in line for 15 minutes... As for MXFL, here you go again. God is a big - and very real - part of their lives, so they give glory to the one who gives them breath. You just don't get it and i don't expect you to; you obviously have no relationship with God. Fine; your choice. But on our side, we acknowledge our Creator and his place in our lives. No He doesn't 'pick who wins' but no one ever said that. It is simple thanks to our God and proper recognition of one's place. Others first, ourselves last. That's called humility; learn it.
Where did I "bag" on you for giving Pourcel props, robj118? To me, it sounded like you were bagging on Dungey because "he couldn't acknowledge [fans] even for just a second or two and sign a couple autographs," and I simply replied that if Dungey was focusing on the race, perhaps it was the wrong time to ask for autographs. For that, you labeled me "ignorant." For good measure, rainmanx63 threw in that I'm "one of only a couple of people on here that knows ANYTHING." Tough to have a reasonable conversation with all that crap getting slung around, you know?
Good for Pourcel and the autographs but I'm sure plenty of times he has pissed someone off too. It is impossible for these celebrity types(sports or TV stars etc) to make everyone happy. Some go all out like Guy Cooper and Windham, but no one can be expected to sign every autograph. Stop and think about this too, Dungey probably signs WAY more autographs on race day than Pourcel. fattireguy, if you were an Eagles fan you'd root for people to get injured and cheer when they do (Michael Irvin lying motionless).....oh, and boo Santa Claus!
That race was awesome and the track look sweet..
"Cox', I'm gonna give you props for being an American motocross fan and having the balls to call out the ignorance in booing the European riders. Europe is where our sport has it's roots. Back in the good old days it was great to root for your favorite American rider hoping they would someday beat those guy's but you never disrespected Decoster and the boys who came here. All riders deserve some respect from the fans. Cheer for you favorites hell yes, just dont boo their competition.
oh and TC didnt overshoot a berm, he shot inside to make a pass and hit a hay bale.
The champs this year were originally from Idaho, France (I'm counting 250 SX), Minnesota, and Oklahoma. California and Florida born were shut out. Of course, I think they all spend most of their time in FL or CA. I'm glad Canard did it, after all he's been through, and how determines he rides, but I almost feel bad for Pourcel to lose it like he did. If he starts saying his "I'm the real champ" BS again, that bit of sympathy will quickly go away though. Both classes looked stacked next year, assuming all the players get decent rides. COOLBETH RULES.
Take a look at the vid again, btw... Canard totally whiskey throttled it after that corner THEN went into the berm. I replayed that over and over again... looks pretty funny when you realize the whiskey throttle! "I got the pass! OH NO!!" LOL
I was 20 feet from the 38 crash. Smokin is right, Canard set that pass up for 4 laps. On the S turns B4 the finish line while Pourcel was railing the smoother outside line Trey got close enough to make the 2 small jumps into the rougher inside line work Trey went hi, block passed 377 , he didnt turn down enough and his momentum from going hi sent him to a hay bale whick he clipped with his front wheel and went down. JimMCarlsbadCa
Hey Rainman, there isnt a girl on that tour that could have outridden me when I was racing all of the time. Now they might be able too. And as far as the 250 MX class, no I probably couldnt have qualified for that even in my prime. But please, I would have wiped the floor with these girls...lol.
Rob..........so your mad that RD didn't sign autographs after practice and CP did. There's a place and time for that in the morning or maybe after the race not while they're working. I wouldn't even think about asking for an autograph then, no way. Maybe if CP crossed every T and doted every i like RD did maybe things would of turned out better for him. Hey I like CP a lot and I'm not bagging on him but RD was all business and that's what it takes to do what he did at that level.
MXFLORIDA..don't like the thanking of God (the man upstairs) for keeping these riders safe throughout the day?? Turn your TV off when it comes to the podium speeches. Trey can say whatever he wants when it comes to the podium and so could "YOU" if you could win a 250cc Champisonship! God is the man! Than I think it's Roger Decoster!
Shout out to Broc TIckle, unless you read the lap chart, this was probaly missed. 2nd Moto Pala 33rd on on lap 1 on the lap chart.. He charges and passes at least one rider every lap, (ususally multiple riders) including a charge on the last lap to pass and move into 9th. This type of charge Deserved at least a Shout Out and a Thumbs Up!
BKR....I doubt that RD signs more autographs than Pourcel on any given race day, RD's line may be longer but how could you say he signs more autographs? just a little food for thought, even Nick Weys autograph line at Southwick was a mile long and ended up having a cutoff point because he could not get to everyone.....see, it's hard to think before you speak isn't it?..........Sef, I called you ignorant because you were the first one to jump on my post and pick it apart the best you could.....and there you go making more claims, I wasn't "bagging" on Dungey, his semi was parked next to the Pro Circuit rig so he was the only one to make a comparison with, sorry I did not mention that before, I saw Wilson but he parked behind the rig and I never saw him again, and I never saw Rattray come out either, so there were no teammates to compare with or I would have picked them over Dungey.........I'm beginnning to think no one has ever read any of my posts from the entire season and realized that I'm a Dungey fan.....go ahead, go back and find some of my posts, you will realize two things, I don't like Stewart and RC and Dungey are my favs, huh, i'll be damned
I have become a CP377 fan. I feel the same as yzsean. I always felt like he didn't respect his competition (not training and just jet skiing during the week) and he always came off as a snob. But he has become really likable and showed sportsmanship and respect during the second half of 2010. I think CP and Trey are goiing to see a lot of podiums in 2011. It looks like the changing of the gard is happening. Nothing would make me happier than for JS7 and Reed to fight for top 5s. Everyone has been making rumors of what teams evryone will be riding on? I sure hope that it is true that Alessi is going to L/M, their isn't two people in motocross that deserve each other more, Alessi and Larry Brooks are purfect for each other!
Garjan.......yes that's my point, there is a place and a time for autographs, each rider has an autograph session and it is clearly posted in front of their semi, but the V.I.P.'s were allowed under the tent with the team, shook hands with and got autographs from Ryan Dungey in front of all the fans standing around the semi, then Dungey walked off into his motorhome, if the V.I.P.'s wanted an autograph they should have been there between 9:10-10am that morning and got an autograph just like everyone else had to..............I am now done with this board, goodbye
Does anyone know the attendance figure for Pala?
Oh man I really thought CP had it in the bag. I mean what r the chances that Pourcel would go down knowing that trey was down already. Trey's team wasnt even prepared as far as tshirts and stuff but its all good. Its twice now that Pourcel hasnt been able to bring it home after a good season. I felt bad for Pourcel.
2011 250 fight gonna be between Musquin and Wilson. I hope Will Hahn and Barcia, Rattray can mix it up on the 250. The 450 gonna be crazy. I think Pourcel will surprise a lot of pple on a 450. Reeds podium days are done. Dungey, Canard, RV and Pourcel will be getting podiums. What a fight MX gonna be btw Canrd, CP and Dungey
Forgot to Give Dungey his respect. Dungey has broken a record RC&JS couldnt do. Even if the other guys( RV,JS &Reedy) race outdoors its gonna be hard to beat Dungey. Dungey was about 15 secaahead which is usually where JS & RV are so its hard to say if RV would smoke Dungey outdoors. RC and Dungey were able to break records bcoz they stay healthy without injuries. When is the last time you say RC or Dungey race over their heads and crash. Im just happy for the Dunge. The GOAT is no longer the most succesful rookie. Dungey is. I never thought i woud say this but as of right now Dungey Rules. Lets see if he can carry momentum to MXON.
The attendance figure for Pala was 20,000 and that was just the people on the road waiting to get in.
"dgizzy" I agree and Dungey was 29 sec ahead in the 1st moto at Pala.
BD200 .. I have to disagree in your position about GPs. And I never heard fans saying " go home " and anything about that. The American motocrossers are so respected overseas cause riders like Stanton, Ricky Johnson and others. Long time ago US showed a different style for riding to the world. If one day you meet Ryan hughes, Mike Brown and Osbourne, ask them about it so you will get the true answer. Jessica patterson or Mariana Balbi ??? JP RULES!!! But I like looser, I'll take mariana !!!
robj118, you got my attention. Hard to speak before you think? What is that? His line might be longer but he doesn't sign more......silly me. The point is that Pourcel can't make everyone happy, Dungey can't, Windham can't even do it. Guess what, if Wey can't get to everyone in line, that's a lot of disappointed people. So what exactly was your point. V.I.P.'s? So what? Here's some food for thought for you, it is just as easy to argue your point without being a jag-off while doing so.
Dgizzy" I no deep down you always wonted to say it DUNGEY RULES! I cant wait tell next years outdoor it's so mutch better then SX. But sx at least lets us see more racing and it sould be great racing. DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The older I get, the faster I was.
Dying to know how it went for the fans at Pala. Was there 2 weeks prior on vacation. I was so disappointed in their facilities. Hope you all had a great time....Great fans, the moto crowd. Love Redbud and hope there was something there for you all... The road there was a tiny one lane highway and the conditions were very dry hot and maybe a few port o potties.....looked better on tv ....
No kidding "smokin" It took me long enough to get in! I left after the 1st moto,s and traffic was backed up to about a mile or so shy of where the Cops were turning people around!
Congrats to Trey Canard and Ryan Dungey your 2010 MX Champs!!!!!!!! Awesome season, Feeling pretty good about an MxoN Victory!!!!!!! Go USA!!!!
rainmanx63" Isn't that the truth! Fancy your right GO USA! USA RULES! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crapy way to end..... They both crash but CP gets hurt. Did not care who won but hate to see it end that way. Good ride ride for Short, Much better then the last few weeks anyway. To bad Metty fell could have won the over all. I don't think CP will make the MXD now witch stinks but atleast 222 will be there now.
Wow! Can't believe my comment got pulled. Sometimes this site is ridiculous. They have have naked girls all over(which I don't mind), but I get censored for suggesting that Dean Wilson might want to pull his pants up, or was it the part where I joked that we might enjoy a beverage every time Fro says "Unbelievable!"?
BKR, why get involved into our little dispute over autographs? really? you obviously have nothing better to do with you're life because I ruffled your feathers pretty easily, plus to read through all our posts back and forth with eachother? you really must not have anything better to do. I'm only on here when I'm screwing around doing school work for college, whats your reason? your words "Stop and think about this too, Dungey probably signs WAY more autographs on race day than Pourcel" all i pointed out is how can you say that Dungey would sign more autographs in a day that Pourcel? do they race while they're doing that too? Talking about being a jack-off when someone disproves a statement you made. Yes, I admit I was a pr!ck for calling sef154 ignorant and should not have done that.....and for that sef154, I apologize
I think it's a great thing that the Europeans come here to race. It only makes the competition that much more exciting to watch. Sure, I pull for our boys but have much respect for everyone and anyone who throws a leg over the bike and lines up at the gate.
Here is something crazy. I'm an american 30 year moto fan, and I wanted Pourcel to win. As a human being he has been through an incredible amount, and I remember when his accident happened everyone thought that would be it. But he fought back. Then he looses the championship last year- total heartbreaker. Plus the dude is rides with a style and smoothness that is just killer. Big Trey fan, but yeah I thought it would be nice to see PC win and Trey get major props for an amazing comeback.
Hey arm126 ! There is a series for guys like you , its called SX, have fun ! Oh by the way , save the 70,000 people at Budds Creek MXDN BS for your buddies. Try 40,000 max according to DC of Racer X Dec 2007. JimM CarlsbadCa JimMCarlsbadCa
Metta - I'd be right there with you if the battle wasn't agains Canard. He's one of my top 3 favs. But yeah, his story is EPIC. And besides that, I think I'm actually kinda coming around to like him... Tesla - you mean the comment, "I only want to add this : Crack Kills, Dean Wilson get a belt. Also I have a new drinking game, every time Fro says "Unbelievable!" take a shot" It's still there... are YOU on crack? (There's a joke in there w/ Dean's crack, but I can't find it right now!)
Interesting how KDub results go up and down like a hi tech stock. He was 7-5 at the Wick then 1-2 in PA, now 7-8.
Steve, I thought I should bring this up after what you wrote about the fans at the Pala MX Nationals in your "Pala Race Report." on 9/12/10. Your experience at the MXdN in 09 tells me you know why we chant USA. But your perception of why all the fans chanted USA at Pala is not completely correct. I chanted USA cause it was 9/11 and after watching foreign bikes race all day its good to see a hard working American set a good example to us all on what we can achieve if we work hard. Sure some people are dumb and want to yell USA cause they don't like the french 377 but I also think he gets plenty of respect from the fans. I always point him out to my kids as a rider worthy of respect. His skill and calm in the "moto storm" is admirable but lets face just like you witnessed at MXdN in 2009 there is always hometown bias. Christophe has done enough for himself to earn respect; you and other people don't need to stick up for him and point out how cool he is. Sorry to go off like this but I'm a little ticked that we americans love this sport and support it, and what do we get for it ?... foreign bikes and chastised for chanting USA!!! M. King-Live Free or Die!
In regard to KW's up/down, I presume he just wanted to finish the Outdoors without getting hurt. No points battle. No championship. Did what he had to do. And to go home from a rough track unscathed probably meant a pair of top 10 rides.
I myself, think it's a shame the way the fans in america act. On here, everyone insults everyone for typing their opinion. Then at the races, everyone acts like asses to the foreign racers. Thats sad. We are a very different breed of people when it comes to our sport, and should just get along. Who cares about skin color or nationality. People come from everywhere to race in america because they believe Americans are the best and they want to be classsed with them. Have some respect for that. Who cares what country they are from? After all, they are walking the walk aren't they? Pourcel is a real class act! Canard is a real class act. Alot of people colud learn something from that. We could be the one sport where everyone has mutual respect for one another, and no heckling is needed.
Joshua802, yeah I love how I am chastised over my opinion about the whole autograph situation, but the one whose complaining that he didn't get to see riders crashing (ehhmm, sef) is left unscathed by everyone but me and rainmanx63.....yeah, man I wish I could see more riders crashing and getting injured too (note the sarcasm), just the kind of stuff I want the moms and children watching the races seeing.
bd200 " I think we can all agree that Canard was the fastest this year. 5 overalls to 2 doesn't lie.." Umm, not obvious to me at all, nor, as I recall, did you or others (sef) use the same logic last year to conclude CP was faster than RD. This year" 9 motos wins to 8 doesn't lie, 1.4 average qual (vs 5.1) doesn't lie. WAYY more fastest laps. Way ahead on the who-passed-who meter. Last year, both at 4 overalls, 13 to 7 on moto wins, almost twice as many laps lead, 3X pole positions & fastest laps, etc. Probably better to pick a standard and stick with it. We are not counting chads here. Just saying. Great battle, though it's disappointing we won't get to see Pourcel at the MXdN on the 450.
"I’ve been well aware of our country’s reputation for having Cy, stupid people who go around the world proclaiming dominance and carrying themselves little to no humility, but I had an epiphany when I was in Italy last week for the Motocross des Nations, and that is that Americans aren’t any more cocky than any other nation, but perhaps the people in America tend to have more reason to be sure of themselves." -Steve Cox from his report on MXdN 2009 Don't think for a minute if Deano wins in Scotland they're not screaming SCOTLAND!!!! don't feel ashamed joshua802 be proud of America, the foregin riders come here for the money not cause they love us.
@ toby42 Apparently I am on crack ha ha. Couldn't find the comment earlier, I swear it wasn't there!
livefreeordie!!! I always thought it was obvious that the best get paid the most, but thanks for taking the time to be another moto ass and give me a lesson that everyone in the world already knew.
I would say last year based on just speed, Pourcel was faster but had a few inconsistant races. Which really surprised alot of people this season that he still had that trouble sometimes. Like he would tighten up or something. Its odd because he is so smooth in supercross. He just looked like sometimes he really looked out of sorts. P)ourcel missing the Des Nations really stinks. I was counting on seeing a preview of what was to come nexst season.
Joshua802 nobody needs to name call its the first sign of mental fatigue. The only thinig that is obvious is your shame for the Americans in this sport. Stop being a whiner nobody wants your apology.
I think it is the way fans are that has caused the stars of this sport to distance themselves from the fans. They may sign autographs and smile, but theydon't want to be part of general public. Riders of yester year used to have fun with the fans.
UTMX....that is unless your name is John Dowd or Doug Henry, the two most approachable riders the sport will ever see....on any given weekend I can make a trip to the local mx park (winchester speedpark) and watch/race with Dowdy and his son Ryan, who I believe just made the jump to a 250f.