by Andy Bowyer
Thursday Rev Up: Fall Season
Thursday, August 19, 2010 | 3:45 PM
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Riders
- Mike Alessi
- Grant Langston
- Chris Pourcel
- Mike LaRocco
- Travis Pastrana
- James Stewart
- Mike Brown
- Trey Canard
- James Stewart
- Ryan Dungey
- Ivan Tedesco
Races
Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Rev Up. As we enter the last off-week of the 2010 regular season, there is a lot to talk about. Ryan Dungey will be your 2010 450 Outdoor National Champion, but the return of James Stewart and the arrival of Clement Desalle has brought some real fire to the final three rounds. Meanwhile, we are going to have yet another dogfight to the final lap in the 250 class.
Trey Canard (38) is closing in quick on Chris Pourcel (377), but can he actually catch him in points?
Photo: Steve Cox
Oddly enough, the journey to the tiddler title always seems to work out like this. In 1992, Mike LaRocco was all but clearing out a place on his mantle for the trophy when Jeff Emig clipped him at the very last moment. In 2000, Stephane Roncada had a huge points lead when Travis Pastrana went on a charge and overcame him in the waning moments of the championship. The following year, a young Grant Langston fought tooth and nail with Mike Brown, until his rear wheel broke at Steel City, handing the crown to Brownie. A couple of years later, Langston would win his title after Ryan Hughes was rained out at Troy, Ohio. Then, in 2005, Mike Alessi and Ivan Tedesco went down on the first lap at Glen Helen.
There have been more titles such as those that mirror what the 2010 250 championship is becoming. A fight to the last lap. We’ll get back into that next week before Southwick.
For now, I wanted to put some words down about the Stewart debacle. For starters, "The Return of the Jedi" ended up just about like I predicted. After not racing outdoor nationals for almost two years, he set the fastest lap time in practice. In my opinion, that settles the score for "The World’s Fastest Motorcycle Rider." He was rusty, under-prepared, and he still went faster than everyone. More than that, he brought a lot to the race and the series. Who cares if he wasn’t ready to go a full moto at race pace? He sure as hell had folks chomping at the bit to watch Unadilla.
James Stewart battling Mike Alessi for 11th? Ouch... For both of them.
Photo: Steve Cox
Yes, he pulled off in the second moto and refused comment to the reporters. He was tired and pissed off; so what? Last week, Dale Earnhardt Jr. climbed out of his racecar at Michigan after a poor run that likely took him out of The Chase. When asked about it, he said, "I don’t give a sh*t about The Chase. I’m tired, and I want to go home." For his mega-million-dollar sponsors, and legions of fans, this was extraordinarily bad. What if Erin made her way to James and he said, "I don’t give a crap about the MXoN; I got passed by Mike Alessi, and I just want to go home." He would have gotten ruined even worse than he is now.
I’m not sticking up for Bubba, but for 11 weeks I haven’t even mentioned his name, yet he became a topic in my comment section. Usually, getting blasted. He has made the media bed he lies in, but I wouldn’t want to talk to a reporter either if I were him. He has an obligation to his sponsors and his fans, but sometimes silence is best. All things considered, I think it was a good call to drop back and punt, then send out an open letter. Dale Jr. wishes he would’ve done the same.
And how about Stewart's play for being a part of Team USA? It’s a tough call, and I don’t want to make too much of a weird comparison between Stewart and Tiger Woods, but look at the situation Woods faces as the 2010 Ryder Cup team is being formed. Team captain Corey Pavin isn’t giving Tiger a guaranteed spot on the team if he fails to make it on points. Tiger is still the #1 ranked player in the world, but like James he doesn’t have his best stuff right now. Should Tiger be on our 12-man team? Should Stewart be on our three-rider team? Both athletes face a similar debacle, and I see the argument on both sides.
But, since this is my once-a-week shot to offer my opinion, I say hell yes Tiger should play and James should ride. The MXoN? One race for all of the glory? You're damned right I'd want Stewart to be on my team. If somebody had a gun to my head and said I was going to get shot if my team loses... I'd count on Bubba to save my hide. Yes, Colorado is Shorty's home race, but remember what Stewart did to the competition on that track in 2008? It was a bloodbath. He'd kill 'em all at the MXoN this year. But, does he deserve to? Heavy debate.
James Stewart on the MXoN team? No-brainer...
Photo: Steve Cox
But enough of that, we have other good stuff coming down the pike...
The new bikes will be hitting the showroom floor anytime now, and that is always a fun time. I just like to go to the dealership and see the shiny new bikes all lined up. The 2011 riding gear is coming out and with the awesome Fall season coming up, it’s time to get some new duds. What is kind of cool about the "recession" is that there are a lot of good used bikes out there as well. I’ve been back on the local scene a bit, and it seems like the four-strokes are lasting longer than they did when they came out a few years ago. I rode the piss out of a 2009 YZ450 from April ‘til July and the only thing I’ve had to do to it was put in a piston and a clutch. I kept the filter clean and changed the oil. It cost me $700 to keep my bike going through four hard, hard months of riding. The bike still rips and you can own it right now for $3750. Haha!
What are you guys pumped about in the 2011 line-up of race bikes? You vet guys looking at that KTM 350? I’ve heard a lot of smack about folks lined up to try one out. Is the Kawasaki looking like the 450 to have? It sure seemed like I saw a lot of 2010 Yamahas this year, but how can you argue that the Suzuki 450 isn’t the bike of the decade? Yet, the people’s choice for new bikes is still the ever-reliable Honda. They’re all awesome bikes.
Like I said, the best time of year is coming up, so try and position yourself to do some riding this Fall. It’s a great time to be a fan and a participant!
Thanks for reading, see you next week.
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I wish I could get my 09 Honda 450 to turn like my 06 Honda or have a fuel injected 06... I guess that means a new Suzuki or Kawasaki might be the ticket?
The fact is Stewart pulled off and gave up ,The AMA made the right choice not to select him. I have seen Carmichael finish races with broken bones and twisted broken bikes and NEVER GIVE UP, that is a true champion, Stewart will NEVER be the champ Carmichael was, not even in the same leauge. Stewart has no respect for anyone, the team that pays him millions of dollars drives across country for him to just pull off and go cry in the corner like a little baby and make up excuse after excuse. Fact is, The guard has changed. , Dungey is the fastest man on the planet now end of story.
Thank you yzf125! you have put it best! yeah he may have been tired, way out of shape, and wrong setup on the bike, he has an obligation to his sponsors and fans! If your a true champion you fight through and finish! don't act like chad reed sit in the corner and pout! and as for MXdN, why would they even consider stewart! this season he has 3 SX and 1/2 a national under his belt! Obviously Dungey was a no brainer, Canard was another obvious choice, and Shorty, he is really strong. Top fives all season, several podiums, plenty of holeshots; just has not put all the pieces together for an overall. Soon, soon.
Stewart can do what he wants. All you haters do what you want, why is it any different? Possibly we all should take a few moments and reflect on our own lives, and quit being a hater!
Hell yes Andy Bowyer!! Hell Yes!!
Stewart set the fastest lap time yes.. but wasn't it only by 1/10th of a second? or am i wrong? that's the information i got online, butit could be wrong i guess. But the fact of the matter is Stewart did what Stewart always does when it gets tough.. he takes his ball and he goes home. Dungey beat him str8 up and there's no mention of that in the whole article. If Stewart wasn't ready, he shouldn't have shown up, it only made him look worse. At least when he wasn't racing you could argue the "what if" approach. But that is gone now. Like i learned in Pyschology 101 in college... REALITY ALWAYS WINS OUT. this is reality, Stewart is under prepared, and doesn't know how to fight for things because everything has always come easy. Now things aren't perfect for him and he doesn't know how to act. He's a quitter, a whiner, end of story. Sorry Stewart Homers. He needs to pull out and go back to Florida and really figure out of it riding dirtbikes is what he wants to do.
This ain't even close to 2008. Why is that so hard to understand? He'd kill them all? Like he killed Stefan Everts.. oh wait. There are some really fast dedicated euro riders. Maybe the talent pool isn't as deep over there, but Bubba is not that special. RC was.
You're right about one thing anti-Stewart guy dc99.......Reality does win out and reality is always happening and changing, and there is more reality to come and last weekends reality could very well change in the future.....mmmmm psycho babble!!!!haha
Andy (Like Tony Stark sayd once) I respectfully disagree!! The way Mr.UTMX said, it is not 2008 and Stewie is not close to what he used be. He does not deserve the ride on the MXON team, he may just quit at any time during the motos if he notices that his boots don't look to well for his reality show, which seems to be the real reason to come back to the nationals. It was very disapointing to see him pulling over and later on publish such a letter. He is not well advised by Mr Larry Brooks who could have avoided him to fall into such a ridiculous situation. Now he confirmed all the real intentions in writting. It's unbeliebably follish the way this team operates. Stewie needs better people surrounding him, that if he really wants to keep racing at decent level. I hope he comes back and prove us wrong, I miss watching him ride with that energy he used to have.
How come Great Britain has yet to name there team, when the AMA insisted they HAD to know there's 'immediately'?
I respectfully disagree as well. Stewart has no reason to be on the MXDN team. The team is a reward for the best riders in the series, not "well, I'll come out for four races" and the guys who worked hard all year can take a back seat. Win or lose, I would rather see the team that is selected now than see Stewart on it. They deserve it, he doesn't.
Stewart "set the fastest lap time in practice. In my opinion, that settles the score for 'The World’s Fastest Motorcycle Rider'"? I respectfully and strongly disagree, Andy. How can you even say that? One practice lap returns him to his throne? Give me a break. And I love how anyone who says such a thing about James is a "hater." Right, whatever? He's young and has plenty of time to earn more accolades, but his performance at Unadilla did nothing of the sort. BTW, Great Britain named their team weeks ago, 0800.
Speaking of the 2011 bikes, I did ride the 350 KTM. Frickin' spectacular. So impressed that I may buy a second-generation pumpkin come '12. Until then I'll be two smokin'.
I dis-agree. Stewart set the fastest time on a track that has not been "roughed" up yet. To really settle that, Look at their best lap times during the first and second moto, then average them out, and see who takes it. I think Stewart would myself, but as all evidence shows, a slightly faster lap time, in practice, or in the moto, will not win the war. Thats what really matters. Dungey has been here, thru the thick and thin, and until stewart has that red plate, Dungey is the man. Bottom line.
I just adore DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a Macho Man.
Andy what were you thinking one lap "fastest man on the planit" i know you no better than that! I think most of the poster here agree with me he has i ways to go. Well most accepted my buddy "WHATEVER" bit in all truthfulness if the roles were reversed with RD5 i would be the same! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He doesn't belong on the team for ONE reason: SX only - he knew L&M didn't do outdoors, but still signed. Those that go out week in week out deserve to be ahead of him. I don't like rewarding someone who races half the time and I hope DeCoster took that into consideration. Maybe Stewart should talk to Townley who asked to not be paid and released from his contract because he thought he was wasting Honda's time. On the other hand I got the feeling Stewart lost some interest when RC retired - no disrespect to every other rider, but those two were light years faster than everyone else.
Also, didn't RC finish the moto when Stewart landed on him in'05? That bike could NOT have been straight let alone where the put him mentally. I think when he pulled off Saturday that should have sealed his fate. What if setup was off in Lakewood? Suck up it, back it down a bit and FINISH the damn moto! MXFLORIDA - we watch sports to get away from reality. I want to see these guys ride! Whether its at 90% or 100%, respect is earned by showing up and riding both motos. How about the two guys who didn't qualify because Stewart and Lawrence were there?? Who the frig is paying for 338 to get to the races??
lap times practice JS 205.839 SHORT 206.301 RD 206.735 first moto fast lap RD 207.475 JS 208.026 in the 18 laps of the race 11 laps RD was fastest JS had 5 laps that were faster 3 laps 1/2sec. 1 lap 1/4 and the last lap RD slowed down with his monster lead and JS was 4sec. faster. Over all avg RD 210.435 JS 211.305. Looking at these numbers how could Bubble's still be considered the "fastest man on the planit" just wondering! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We still haven't got to see Villopoto put in his fastest practice time on the same day as Stewart. Just saying.
cool off guys. James will talk when he is ready. I was kind of happy he refused to tyalk. Take that AMA. Thats for misleading. I am James stewart. Im rich I do what I wanna do and y'lal can kiss my behind anyday.
Caption on photo Alessi passing JS Alessi thinking " Damn, I thought I had a bad season with the 350 but I just passed James" Things are not so bad after all.
Shorty deserves to go they owe it to Shorty. Its his last yr on factory and he's never been chosen. to be 2nd twice on the championship and NOT to be chosen would be so unfair. I know its a debate but JS has already gone twice.
Stewart would not have ruined the U.S. chance at winning if he was chosen, I'm sure he would have done fine, but did he "deserve" the spot is the question. What bothers me is that if it was in France or Spain this year, I doubt he would have any desire to be anywhere near being chosen. I'm scratching my head now wondering how this title has morphed into "the world's fastest motorcycle rider". I think Valentino Rossi might question that one, or any top drag bike guy? Practice? We talking 'bout practice? James Stewart, proving that you CAN win practice. Wait, doesn't that make him "the world's fastest practice rider"? Did anyone know that Mike Alessi won practice at Freestone? He has really built on that since.
BKR" Great post "showtime" the GOAT" the hurricane" the bad boy" the little professor and many others were the fastest men on the planit at there time. The big difference is not of the would ever say it or let there representatives say it even with there egos they were not that eragent! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me see if I can sum up my feelings for # 7's letter, F U STEW....the changing of the guard is upon us and u don't get a place at the seat. Please stop hyping James, he is not the heir apparent that u hoped he would be to RC, that place WILL be taken by # 5.
I respectfully disagree with all you all of you. This is a team race, and it is our responsibility to put the best team together, made up of the fastest riders to bring home the prize. Stewart came out, after not riding outdoors for 2 years, not riding a bike since Jan, and after an injury, and thoroughly beat Shorty and put himself on the podium. That to me proves he is faster than Short, albeit not yet conditioned to run two 30 min motos. In a few weeks he will be. Hell, there are lots of riders more deserving to make the team, but deserving doesn't always win. I would think we would want the fastest riders to represent our country, not just the riders we like because of their personality. I'm not a fan of Stewart's off the track stuff, but he is still a very fast rider. I fondly remember when everyone hated on the GOAT just for switching brands of bike and he made all those haters eat their words.
re practice times & JS vs ?? : Maybe it's me, but my recollection of the RC/JS battles outdoors consisted of JS out-qualifying RC about 2/3 the time. Then RC would say something like, "Wow, he's fast. Looks like trouble" then go out & grind him into the ground on-track. Meanwhile, JS did a LOT of crashing in qualifying to get those numbers (saw several biggies myself that were not reported). Meaning 2 things.. 1) Practice times mean something, but you can't always be sure just what, and 2) RC engineered on JS one of the most subtle and successful head-game campaigns in motorsports history. Fed JS's ego and encouraged him to focus on speed and bragging rights, meanwhile focusing on moto wins and points. "Yea, James is faster. I am just sure of it. Don't know WHY he keeps crashing out. It's a real shame to have to be be winning like this. It's a puzzlement." Played him like a kazoo.
yzsean, Your post might be intersting to read if I knew what you were trying to say, get a dictionary. Anyway, what's with the man crush that so many of you have with some of these riders. You can kid yourself all you want because you think Dungey is a nicer guy than Stewart or cuter or whatever it is. But anyone who knows what Stewart can do on a bike knows for a fact that he is probably the fastest motocross rider ever. Not the best RACER (Carmicheal) and curently not the best either (Dungey) but for those of you that just have to discount his talent because you don't like him...you're an idiot. And Dungey does Rule, for 2010 anyway.
HBT1...let's see if I can sum up my feelings for you and everyone with your ridiculous point of view...your ignorance by degrading a rider of James talent for not living up to YOUR expectations is pathetic. All we've been begging for is for Stewart to race, then he does, clearly not ready to compete, and you chastise him. What's your definition of failure...would it be Shorty pulling a holeshot every week but falling back consistently for only a top ten finish? Would it be Canard for gapping the field at Unadilla by 10 secs plus, more than 20 on the pts leader, and still losing the race? It's one thing to criticize a rider, but another to be fool with your ignorant comments.
As for the FMOTP mess, I would have to agree with Andy on this one. No one labeled Stewart is the Fastest, Most Consistent, Determined, Gritty, Lots of Heart, Physically Fit Rider on the Planet (FMCDGLOHPFROTP). Just the fastest, and quite honestly, he proved it Sat. That being said, Dungey has the full package right now, and so did RC in his time. You can debate the rest, but not the Fastest part. Problem is fastest doesn't always win championships, but again we didn't label him the Fastest Man on the Planet that Always Wins Championships and Never Crashes Out...just the Fastest.
Slim, you're right on. And since when do we choose riders who "deserve" to go to the MXoN? Is it like earning a merrit badge. If that's the case then Ryan Clark should have been picked years ago, or Jason Thomas or Nick Wey...you get the point? Who cares about being politically correct, send the fastest guys we got, period.
Elsinore, that is funny, played him like a kazoo. Slim, I agree that the goal should be to send the best team. Yes Stewart was fastest in practice, yes he beat Short moto 1. Who did James beat moto 2? He finished ahead of exactly 5 guys, and 2 didn't even start! Not good. Does that make me all warm and fuzzy that he will be ready come MXoN time? MXoN is not that far away. I don't know if there is a guarantee that he could be ready in that time after seeing his moto 2, certainly not just because you say so. Why will he now be in condition in a few weeks? He's been at it for two months now, but it will snap right back in the next few weeks? I'm having difficulty seeing that. I'll check out Southwick and see how he's doing there. I think if he had trouble going 2 at Unadilla, how will he go 2 at Southwick?
Who was it that said " Aint nothing changed aint nothing gonna change " ? Remember when winning practice was not a compliment ! JmM Carlsbad
No one said it was Jimbo. And didn't they change the rules?
Rainman, why would any of the guys you listed be the most deserving? By most deserving, I mean best choice. Maybe that's just me? No, I think that's what most think. Also, you agree with Slim who is saying that James proved he is the fastest by winning practice and nothing else? I'll say this again, the problem isn't Stewart and how he does. The problem is fans like Slim who live in this alternate reality and then try to make it OUR reality. James was coined FMOTP when he was winning championships Slim, not just because he qualified first. You're not serious, right? Fastest means whatever you want it to Slim. We were confused in thinking fastest meant the guy that wins. Now I understand what it means. Thank you for the guidance.
Ok with the reasoning some JS fans have on the De nation should we not wait for RV to come back there is talk that he might be back for the last round! The simple fact all the teams have been picked the USA team was one of the last. The one thing i will agree with is they sould have said who was going at Loretta's like they always do it would have eliminated many of the problems that seem to be going on! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm certainly not unhappy with the team that was chosen, and honestly, there is a question mark on whether Bubba will be in race shape within 4 races. But, Shorty hasn't finished a season in recent times without injury of some sort, neither has Canard for that matter. Bubba came out and showed his speed, it's just conditioning he needs to work on. And I'm betting that if he can show the speed he did without being in race shape, he'll be the fastest rider when he is ready. No question Dungey is the man right now, and he deserves the accolades, but I don't hate on any professional rider like some of these jokers (sans Jlaw for obvious reasons).
To clear up the misunderstanding...I wouldn't choose the guys I listed, I was trying to make a point. Sorry you didn't get it. My point is why choose Short just because he deserved it? Why does he deserve it? Because he trys really hard? The guys I listed have worked just as hard over the years. Pick the fastest guys. Stewarts faster than short. Nuf said
Man, pretty funny when provided with an alternative viewpoint, you come out with the jabs. Look, there are more than one way to view things, hence having an intelligent discussion. I'll be honest with you, I am not a James fan, or a Dungey fan, or a Grant fan...I am a fan of motocross, period. It clearly annoys me when armchair quarterbacks can type on the keyboard and say he should be in better shape or he should ride like this, when in all reality, you have no f-ing clue. It wasn't that long ago (a year and a hal****o to be exact) that all you keyboard cowboys were ragging Dungey for buckling under pressure and dropping championships. How times have changed...I don't count Stewart out when he's healthy, fan of him or not.
Truer words couldn't have been said, rainman...."deserves" is a strong word. Did Tedesco deserve it a few years ago when he was selected just because of the color bike he rode?
There is no argument.James Stewart has progressed the sport (bubba scrub) and demonstrated the trade of professional dirt bike rider to a mainstream audience. (bubbas world). He has dedicated his life to the sport, and has brought it forward with him. He may be a little wreckless (on the track), and isn't the most polished of speakers. To "Hate on" James is to hate on the sport we all love. You can't compare Rysn Dungeys career (so far) with Stewarts. At least not yet, and Ryan Dungey would be the first person to humbly tell you the same. Dungey Rules!!! Stewart Rules!!! Motocross Rules!!!...
Agreed.
There will be a alternate there is racing left no one knows what might be some one i hope not could get hurt. But with the open letter Bubble's did i don't think it will help he should have bit his tong and congratulated the team you never know! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J-Law rules!!! mfers
faster then you. faster then me, faster then we probably will be.. RESPECT
YZ, I would have to agree on that. He definately didn't do himself any favors, I won't argue that.
sorry I was late for the great debate. I was out riding, What you all should have been doing. SEAT TIME BROTHA!, DO WORK!
BKR...... I see what u mean ! Thank you for the guidance Einstein . JimM CarlsbadCA
By the way, thankyou to the always entertaining Mr. Andy Bowyer. I look forward to reading your opinion every week. Keep up the good work, and i'll keep rooting for Clint!
braamp450, someone else on here rides??!! Cool, you must live on the west coast.
Wow, Rainman listing those guys does not make any point. Which of those guys was passed over as they sat 2nd in 450 points? In 1987, Bob Hannah rode a 125 for the U.S. over Micky Dymond. It was a popular choice for obvious reasons. Was he a better choice than Micky Dymond? It still worked out, but who "deserved" it more? An aging 250 rider (in his last full year-who hadn't ridden a 125 in YEARS) or the 1987 125 champ? Your (and other's) defense of Stewart here requires a diminishing of what Short has done this year. He is 2nd in points despite missing a moto entirely. You're comparing Short in 2nd to Nick Wey, Ryan Clark, and Jason thomas....all fine riders but..... Stewart is a better choice because he beat Short in one moto? Hey, maybe Alessi should go since he passed Stewart in the 2nd moto? Does that make HIM the fastest? One more comment....last year Stewart himself was saying "I don't 'deserve' to go". He probably would have been the BEST (not most deserving) choice despite not racing MX. Last year I thought he was the obvious choice over Tedesco. So, why is it that last year he didn't "deserve" it by his own words?
Lets hear why 29 is a bad choice for MXDN . Speed ? Consistency ? Detemination ? Conditioning ? Team Player willing to ah..... respond if Phillapparts want to play bumper pool again ? This is not gonna be a cakewalk for our guys and I agree with RD and think this is the best USA TEAM available. JimM Carlsbad
Not to mention almost guaranteed good start.
Brooksville, FL.. west coast of florida! ha went to a track called sunshine MX in St petersburg tonight. I have a track at my house, Its kinda supercrossy, lots of jumps. Sunshine is challenging in other ways. good to mix it up.
i'm happy with Rogers decision. Solid team selections, It is almost as if he owes Shorty for denying him last year. This is a feel good choice. I like Stewart as an alternate. We should run a stacked B team, or team puerto rico. take 1 and 2!!
I just cant wait when Short goes 1-1 in mx3! Just remember it's not like he is racing mx1 for us that's were all the fastest riders from every country will be who can beat him in mx3? DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yz sean is like stewart. not the most polished of spearkers but he is fast, and look how far he's brought message board exclamation points! hahah rock on sean!
Is this what it has come to now?? You turn the fastest lap in practice and that makes you the Worlds fastest motocrcycle rider?? What the hell? I thought gutting out 35min +2 or in the old days 45 min in the rain, dust, heat (thats motocross) meant alot more than turning the fastest lap in practice. WOW line up against those other 39 riders or whatever number it may be and see if that fastest practice lap is going to be consistent each time around in traffic, lappers etc. As far as that JS letter it seemed someone is just talking in circles! Oh brother.. fastest practice lap= Fastest Man in the world!! I'm going to go knit a sweater!
Moto619 said it best, Stewart needs to surround himself with much better people. I was a Stewart and Reed fan before each of those guys signed with L/M. It doesn't take Brooks long to take whatever integrity a rider has and flucrap down the toilet. Brooks runs his teams with this theory: lets make the most amount of money with the least amount of work.(races) Screw the fans and his riders as far as titles and records. I think James has a lot of people giving him bad advice so that they can make as much money as possible while they are in contact with him. After watching Bubbas World I think James would have a tough time Passing the 7th grade. If he had somebody like DeCoster behind him he could go down in history as one of the best ever.
BKR, you read WAY too much into everything. By the time you overanalize what I've said it doesn't even make sense to me. You win, when it's all said and done I think we all know that USA will kick ass whether we have Stewart or Short. Do we all agree on that?
Wow, Two guys that make total sense. Slim and TKW. Some very good points.
Looking at this with an open mind, I'm thinking that if Kevin Windham did what Stewart did on his comeback race people would be saying what a great comeback for being off so long. They would probably defend him pulling off by saying "hey it's Windham he knows what he's doing and if he pulled off the bike was bad ". Now what I dont understand is how a pro team can come so unprepared to a race so important to Stewart. It was important right? He thought he was gonna being proving himself for the MXDN. Setup is important as was witnessed by Dungey's performance at race 1 but Dungey didnt pull off. Imo if JS came back 3 races earlier and dominated or at least battled with RD then I think he should have been considered for the MXDN team regardless of whether he raced the whole season. That didnt happen and thet picked the right team.
I agree twinky101. i was thinkin the same thing earlier today. It does seem that many people try to take advantage of James. He said it himself on his show, he doesn't see the money. "just another check then another check.." He needs better manegement, he needs a better agent, and a PR firm. Guys in the NFL can get away with murder, the same standard should apply with High profile athletes in our sport such as James Stewart
Braamp" there one ! for every win this year 14 sx and mx. DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRAAMP" Bubble's does not have a agent he does not wont to give up the % or his $ that's why you always see his Oakley rep with him he does it for free so he will say at Oakley. But he is not a agent and probably does not do what a good one could for him! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hell yes yzsean!! Hell yes!!!
NICE! you're the man! I hadn't noticed.. I cant help but wonder, When will you become RMsean. That yz must be getting old and the 11's will come with amazing finance options!
agreed pag is cool but obviously has is own interests ahead of james'. James needs proper guidence. his parents raised him very well, This is out of their hands now.
I bleed blue it was yellow but that was back in the 70's and 80's when Yamaha were yellow. I have raced them all at one time or another but i always come back to Yamaha. Even thou i have had some four Stokes's i just love the 2 stroke's. I raced a 125 a couple of weeks ago that was some of the funnest racing i have had in a long time i had not raced a 125 in a long time 1996. DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those who downplayed Short ("pulling a holeshot every week but falling back consistently for only a top ten finish') or said he got injured often(?), let me review a couple of things. After a successful "Lites" career (2nd and 4th outdoors, 2nd and 3rd in SX, East/West SX winner), he's recorded 3rd, 3rd and 2nd (with another 2nd coming) in the 450 Nationals, along with 3rd in SX in '08 and '09. For those two years combined, he scored more combined points (SX/MX) than ANY other rider, and you'll probably be able to throw in '10 and he'll STILL have the most combined points. Bad choice? You've got to be kidding me. And it bears repeating that he’ll be asked to defeat the other MX3 riders at MXdN, not ALL riders. I think he's up to the task.
We can count on dgizzy for the best chuckle (or eye roll): “I am James stewart. Im rich I do what I wanna do and y'lal can kiss my behind anyday.” I think we found a PR man!
I have a yz125 from 02'. One of my favorite bikes to ride. yaat yaaat yaaaaaat everywhere.
I think what DeCoster also realized was that one of the reasons Stewart wanted to be on the MXON team was for his show, and if that was the case, that would be a distraction and show what Stewart is really racing for.
Never thought considering anybody for the MXDN who hadn't been racing made any sense, but if it did, wouldn't Windham have made the better choice? Lead a moto or two, finished his motos, cept for the one wreck. No injury issues. Unless I had a financial interest in the Bubba TV show (and held that higher than my regard for MX), then I don't know why I would care about Bubba's wishes here. Short is a solid, reliable, run-and-finish at the front kind of guy. Gotta have one. I seem to remember everyone being so glad that Tim Ferry (the clone donor for Short) was on hand in GB a couple years ago when one of our "A" riders crash-and-burned (I know who, just don't say it). If not for Ferry we lose the thing. Gotta have a Short/Ferry so the other guys can take a risk or two. Short was always the right choice, lets move on.
I'm simply making the argument that Stewart could have been considered, not necessarily saying he should have been the pick over Short. People throw out the word "deserving" for a team race like the MXoN, when in fact it has nothing to do with that. It's about who's the best team make-up. Honestly, you make a valid point in that Team USA needs a solid reliable rider to run anchor. No doubt. Short fits the bill on that one. But for arguments sake, just as stated above, alot of guys are "deserving" of this opportunity, but they aren't the fastest or most consistent rider we could have picked. It kills me to hear Stewart get beatdown for not being "deserving". I don't care if the guy raced MX or not, if he's the fastest guy at that time, that gives us the best chance to win, then he's on the team. If anything, the only thing that he needs to prove is that he is in good enough condition to run the two motos. He's got the speed thing down.
Hmm, I usually dont like to way in on this stuff but after reading this article along with James's open letter something struck me. I really miss RC. On the rare occasion that someone was able to beat Ricky the only thing you ever heard from him was "My hats off to him". Not once did I hear an excuse or anything even close to one. We all know how great he was on the bike. The numbers speak for themselves. But when someone that good can still be humble in defeat, you have a rare individual. This is not a judgement on James Stewart for those who are getting their feathers ruffled right now. Just an observation.
Why is it that whenever someone has a opinion on someone they are called haters. I just think that Bubbles is a d-bag. If, for one second anyone who believes that Bubbles is a god would take the blinders off and watch how he composes himself on and off the track they would see it to. Bubbles is not a role model, he is just a very fast bike rider(well on most days and then on off days he quits). If you want to find a role model read the Dean Wilson interview, or watch Dungey and Short. It is my belief that Bubbles is not a asset to our sport. There for he should not represent the USA at the MXoN.
There is no comparison between RC and Stewart, but RC was in a class all his own. I don't believe Stewart has done anything that I would consider him not to be a solid role model. What? He has a TV show (don't watch it, I don't)...oh, he got mad and pushed Reeds bike off the stand in the heat of battle. Ghastly! What an evil person. Oh, he pushes so hard racing he injures himself. Horrific! Stewart isn't in the same category as JLaw, stop trying to put him there because you don't like his personality. And for the record, when you post an opinion that includes calling the rider a "d-bag", you don't help your cause for not being considered a hater.
sworks510...I miss watching RC as well, but Dungey does a pretty good job of carrying that flag.
The team has been chosen, done deal, maybe Stewart as alternate who knows. I have to comment on some the insane ramblings on here though. Short is a good pick for the team, he's just not the fastest pick. The MXDN is a motorcycle RACE not a congeniality contest, you send the fastest riders if you want to win. Lets put it this way, Dungey (on fire) DaSalle (tourist on a borrowed bike on a track he's never rode before), Stewart (off the sofa), then Short 4th in that 1st moto. At the MXDN there will be at least 7-10 more guys from the GP's riding all season, in great shape that are faster than Short which already would push him outside the top 10. People are saying its Shorts "home track" which means nothing, because Short has never won there. On Stewart, why does anyone care if he had/has a TV show?? Motocross and Supercross IS A SHOW ALREADY PEOPLE. Is James breaking the law, rolling rent a cars, is he hurting anyone?? His job is to race motorcycles and sell/promote products, and thats what he does. I've NEVER heard of James in ANY trouble, drugs, fights, nothing, so I don't understand the character issues. Stewarts Supercross only contract, so what. MC did it I don't hear people questioning his heart, motivations.
So what we are saying here is that when your kid asks you if it is OK to blame their problems on the team push bikes over and quit racing, or wreck your bike because you are not winning it is OK. Then go ahead son whine like a little girl when you have an off week and blame someone else for your problems. I don't know why James and Chad don't get along better they act just the same. The MXoN is decided from the fastest in the nationals not SX all I am saying is that if you want to be considered maybe you should not sighn a SX only deal then whine about it. Short is the second fastest 450 rider right now in the US outdoor nationals.
Good points "johnnyohannah". We all have the right to "like" or "dislike" whomever we want to in any sport or in anything at all. But, these people on the "dislike" side of things speak of JS like he IS some sort of low-life, evil,immoral person. I have never seen anyone in this sport so highly scrutinized!! It really is insane for them to take offense to being referred to as haters. Windham did not pull off the track, BUT, as someone else stated, if he would have for any reason at all, it would have been just fine with almost anybody who rips James for doing it. Any reason given would have been respected. These guys stand around in an internet "circle jerk" high-fiving each other on their favorite cut-downs of Stewart. Safety in numbers i guess. When you include in your post, praise for another posters derogatory remarks, you make it crystal clear where you stand.
Johnny-O, I think when MC did it he didnt ride the Des Nations any more. I think the big thing is Stewie isnt riding outdoors. And the Des Nations is an outdoor race and Stewie wont be preparted for it. It showed at Unadilla how ill-prepared the team was for a National. We cant afford that to happen at the Des Nations. And I dont think there will be 10 or more riders from the GP's who will be ahead of Short. And the quitting thing kinda bugs me. Did Stewie quit because he couldnt hold on and felt unsafe, or did he do it because he was in 11th place, didnt get picked for the Des Nations, and had his feelings and pride hurt and said thats it, I'm taking my ball and going home??? And the fastest practice lap makes Stewie the fastest rider?? HUH!! No way!!, Not a chance. I can twist a 450 and go as fast as the bike will go, hold on best I can, then crash my brains out. Does that make me the fastest guy on the track?? Nope!!
Your a professional Stewart, act like one. It's not like your an amatuer working a day job trying to get some riding time in before you race your local track on Sunday. You have your own track in your back yard. Your own weight training facility. The top mechanics. Top race bikes. You have 24 hours a day to train, ride or test. Your sponsors pay you to work as hard as you can to be ready on race day. Man up Stewart and quit making all these effin excuses. How about saying Dungey and the guy from Europe were hauling butt today. I come back next week more prepared and try and give em a better race. Fans would like except that better. By the way nice job throwing your mechanic under the bus with the bike wasn't set up right comment.
whatever, you rip on guys for ripping on Stewie and call them all kinds of names, because they cut down your boy. But you have and will again do the same thing to Reed. You arent any different. You want to see a internet hater, look in the mirror, you are the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black..
As for the 'if KDub did it' argument (which at face value looks good): the thing is that it's not an isolated incident (not just the pulling off, but the attitude). Throw the attitude from James in on 'if KDub did it' and it would be a little harder to swallow. But we'd give Kdub a pass [i]because of his track record[/i]. But if KDub did that and kept doing it... and it became his general attitude... well, then he wouldn't have as many fans. This is a trend for JS7; that's why the argument doesn't hold. Props to all who support Shorty - and Yamahaa pointed out what needed to be: Shorty is 2nd in points in the series right now. 2nd! You GOTTA respect that. And notice: 'in the SERIES.' This is Motocross. You race, you earn. Just like I love Tebow... but he has no 'right' to be 1st string QB... he - everyone - has to earn their spot on the team. MX, NFL, Curling, I don't care. These three guys put in the work and the dedication to earn their spots. Period.
"bd"...i have never been as relentless to Reed as you guy are to Stewart, not even close. If it is your opinon that i have then fine, but it is just opinion (dont care how many of you jump on board with him either) Who did i call a name here mr. everyone is a "fantard"??? Stewart is not "my boy" and you need to quit implying so. I have made my peace with my Reed issues, something you will never do with Stewart, so stop pulling that one out your ass would you?? Both of the options you list for reasons why he pulled off should be considered, but you and others automatically assumed the latter just because that is what you do. No way in your mind it could be any thing else. And dude, im gonna assume that if you twisted the throttle on JS 450 even close to half way that you would be filling your shorts, pretty lame to make that comparison.
yamaha---What I would hope is your kids would know is that its okay to stop riding if you're tired and your bike was not setup properly so you wouldn't crash and hurt yourself or others by just pinning it and trying to please someone else or worry about what some person on a blog is going to think later. These young men put their necks on the line every time they race and they are riding dangerously fast, even the smallest issue with a bike can have catastrophic results at those speeds. You either have never ridden motocross or you are one of those "moto dads" living vicariously through your children because you never accomplished anything in the sport. "Whine like little girls" ??? Those kids are super tough, strong mentally and physically, you have NO IDEA what your talking about. Ill get back to that in a minute. No one EVER said nor is it written ANYWHERE that the team is chosen from "the fastest in the nationals not SX" You made that up 100% on your own. Reeds issue, here is a quick Medical lesson. With his mono/Epstein bar sickness the problem is not just the tiredness and fatigue that is dangerous on the bike, its the splenomegaly (enlarged spleen). When you have this virus the spleen works over time to clean the blood, becomes enlarged, inflamed and protrudes from under the rib cage. If damaged or ruptured, say during a crash you will bleed out internally in about 3 minutes and will die. Any other questions??
"toby42" why do you and so many others seem to think that any of us think that SHort is not deserving of his spot?? Im not hearing that too much on here at all. The only point being argued by a very small minority here, and by James himself, was that somewhere in the "powers that be" he was told he WOULD have a shot based on his performance and im sure several other factors. If he feels he was misled, IN THAT RESPECT, who the hell are any of you to say he is lying about it?? We dont know!!! We may never know, but as i have said, i believe that there at least has to be some truth to it, seems to obvious. Shorty is the best choice for that spot on the MXDN, JS said it himself, he just thought he had some chance at proving himself and that was nullified before it could even materialize. No whining about it, just fact of the matter!!
I was watching some supercross races from earlier this year and Dungey is not that fast. When Villopoto is back and james is 100% Dungey is done. Sorry yzsean, your boy will be 3rd fastest. OH wait Pourcell will be on a 450 so I guess he will be off the podium.
Dungey's not that fast eh , i guess Stewart wasn't 100% when Dungey awas reeling him in at anaheim 1, and Vilopoto wasn't riding the ragged edge trying to stay in front of Dungey when he crashed himself out for the season ? all the shoulda coulda woulda on here makes ne laugh !
Yep cronepiece. Dungey's not fast, he's just really smooth which makes him look even slower. He just gets lapped into 1st place. You must not have watched Vegas where he was smoother and faster than everyone, except of course Stewart and Villopoto who were faster on the sidelines. Give the guy some credit and let the racing do the talking.
You dont think there are 10 riders faster than Short you say....pick from this list of riders who have won races, world championships, national championships. US guys today----Dungey, Stewart, Canard Euros---Cairoli, DaSalle, Roczen, Musquin, Pourcel, Paulin, Ramon, Nagl, Philipaerts, Euros here that have beat beat Short this year Metcalfe, Townley, Reed Dont forget guys like Pourcel who will will also be there.
What we all should be doing is looking for four leaf clovers, or rubbing rabbits feet, wishing on a lucky star, dare i say praying, whatever we think brings us luck so that next year we get to see Dungey, Stewart, Reed, Villopoto, Pourcel, and all the other very capable riders in that class start and finish a season. Why?? Because then there will be no speculation or hypothetical "opinions" as to what could have, or should have or would have happened. We wished for it last year and look what happened. There is no better way for us to silence those we disagree with, or be silenced ourselves about our oft overstated opinions. More than i wish for a particular champion to be crowned, i wish for the opportunity to watch them all compete for it, start to finish!! What are the chances though??
Criticism of Stewart does not automatically equal hate. MC and KW were far into their careers before they went into Supercross only deals. I love the my guy is faster than your guy playground chest thumping. Who cares who is fastest? The only thing that matters is results. I like RV but if he keeps taking dirt samples it will be pretty hard to win Championships. If Pourcel can't deal with hot days than he will be the one needing a Supercross only deal.
Must be the "New PC" world that says a rider "is deserving" to go to the MXD... I thought it was your "BEST" team... What would RJ or Stanton say if they were told were are sending Rider "X" because he deserives to go??
Also guys how can you argue about who is the fastest with out a way to do that?? What does it mean to be the "fastest"?? One lap?? To some it could, Others say a hole moto... Others might say a hole season.... So what is it. For a 1 lap timed I Put my money on JS EVERY time.
SEF wile Shorts states are GREAT, THE MXD is NOT about consitesy, It's about raw speed for 2 moto's and if things go bad like thay have in the past U need a rider who has the speed and balls to do what he has to do to get the USA the win. Do you rememer Stanton, RJ, Ward?? Guys like that have come thru the pack, Knocking guys down if they have to to get to the front to WIN!!!!!! I don't see Short as that guy if it comes down to that.I hope I an wrong but he has not shown me that yet, JS like him or not is a Guy I feel can and would do that.
bd200 I WILL PAY to see you hold a 450 WFT for 1 lap and TRY and beat JS... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Johnny" those riders you mentioned will be riding mx1 or mx2 names All Short has to do is win his class and that's mx3 i think he will. what other country 2 fastest rider is up to his speed! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy Bowyer, I have read Rev-Up for years and have always thought you hit the nail on the head with everything regarding racing. I value your opinions as someone who is on the "inside" and 99.9% of the time I agree with what you write....Until now. I don't get your allegiance to Bubba. He is a quitter at best. Would RC, Hannah, Magoo...heck, Blake Wharton or Ryan Dungey (1st race at Hangtown) pull off just because they weren't running up front? Bubba is turning into a poser. Fastest man on the planet? Yeah, right. What has he actually done in his career in the big bike class? Not much. If being fast in practice makes you the fastest man on the planet then good for him. He is turning into a reality tv show punk and there is no way he deserves to race for the USA seeing how he only wants to be considered a SX rider. Hopefully all that time driving around in the Lambo with Sorby was worth it to him....
BillC " If we are going of what you wont a rider to do there we definitely have the right guy Short. Even though Short has one of the best reputation in the pits the opposite is true on the track he has one of the worst Blocking, Bashing and Bulling i know we have not seen a lot of it this year but trust me he has that reputation! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha Ha Ha, you guy's fell for it. WTG Andy!! I know there's a contest going on with the writing staff there at RacerX to see you can get the most Stewart comments on an article the put up. Is it based on all articles or individual ones? This one has got to put you in the lead or at least top 3 with Cox and DC. You almost got me sucked in too!! Good luck in the contest I'd rather have you win then Cox. But you shouldn't be so obvious about it, like Cox is. Make it a challenge to be a little more subtle because some of the things you wrote are WAY to out there to believe and more readers are going to catch on to what you are doing. All the same you did a good job on the article judging from the number of comments.
cronepiece" Thanks for the lalf some of there post just weren't that funny but your sure was! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Johny, I would rather ride around in 1st gear rolling jumps than to quit a race. I also recognize when it is my fault that I did not win. Blaming bike set up is the riders fault, I'm sure that in all his testing the mechanic never told JS " sorry I'm a super-cross only mechanic I just don't know how to make that adjustment to your bike." If his mechanic did say that then I will apologize to JS. Then I would have to call his mechanic a d-bag, and ask JS why he did not fire the mechanic. I also understand Epstein bar Timmy Ferry ( one of my all time favorite riders) raced with it. Maybe you could give me a medical lesson I could use Dr. Johnny.
yzsean hit the nail on the head with his last two posts. JOH, you names three Americans (he won't be racing AGAINST them at all), Cairoli, DaSalle and Pourcel, all of whom will be riding MX1, Roczen and Musquin, who will be in MX2 (and may or may not be able to beat him), Paulin (who won't be there), Metcalfe and Townley, whom Andrew has beaten more often than not, and Reed, who as you pointed out, has E/B. That leaves Ramon, Nagl, and Philipaerts. They're no guarantee to beat him. You see Philipaerts at GH? As for being THAT guy that gets the job done, it's been Ferry and Tedesco in recent years. I think Short - including his second place in the standings - is the right guy for the job. BTW, I'm not one of the people who would be all freaked out if it was Bubba, but he hasn't convinced many (or the right) people that he's the clear cut choice.
yamahaa, cracking on johnnyoh is lame made lamer by "understanding" Epstein Barr so well you cannot spell it. Which brings me to a sad moment: johnnyohannah, we are in disagreement on this Stewie/Short thing. Was bound to happen sooner or later. It's been a good run and everything will be new on the 'morrow. But for the remains of this day, until Taps, I will be running the little US flag mounted atop my monitor at half-mast.
So am i to understand that there are those on here who think that the way a bike is handling (at this level of racing) has no bearing on how a rider does and what effects it has on a race?? Really?? I remember a guy with the #5 not having a good day in his FIRST race of the year this year. Why, we wondered. Then we were told for the next week how the bike was set up wrong, and everyone accepted that. This was the bike on the team that had won the previous years outdoor title and a couple other titles with that RC guy!! Rockstar Makita Suzuki had trouble with bike set up even with the baselines they had to go on. IT CAN HAPPEN. The following week they had dialed things in better and the guy has not lost an overall yet. So, it is safe to say that the bike set up was without a doubt the reason he had a bad day. Right??...RIGHT!! Im ONLY talking about bike set up issue in this post, not "pulling off" or MXDN or anything else. Please take that into consideration when responding. Why are you people saying that Stewart is making excuses and "blaming" bike set up as a FACTOR in how his day went?? Dungey is affcected by bike set up and it's just fine....STewart is and its whining and crying and making excuses, i dont understand this people. This was Stewarts FIRST race of the year on a bike that the team DID NOT have any previous baseline settings to go on, and you disallow it as a factor.....thats insane!! Please read carefully and dont morph other issues into this one..BIKE SET UP!!
...inspired by "yamahaas" latest post where he states that "blaming" bike set up is the riders fault.....then this applies to Dungey for Hangtown also then correct??? Lots of factors go into how a race goes for a rider......human factors (fitness, etc.) non-human (bike set up, track conditions,etc.) Dungey's fitness was a non issue for him, so he was putting ALL of the blame, if you will, on a bike that just wasn't handling properly.....it made a difference. Im aware that he didnt pull off ok, people, but, he was also beginning the quest for a title. I totally believe it was the bike that was his problem at Hangtown, he has proven it every since!! James is NOT at 100% fitness level and he admits it, and the bike was not quite right either, he mentions that also and gets ripped for it, why will you not accept those things at nothng more than face value..... as factors in a guys race? It cannot be ok for one rider and not for another, whoever it is!
BILLC, you are right about raw speed for 2 motos in the Des Nations, and Short finished BOTH motos. Easy answer. And whatever, I HAVE ridden a 450 motocrosser on several occasions on a track. Raced one several times, and my kids and my friends kids all still race some. Too busy to do it every weekend, but I ride at least once a week on my own property. How many races have you run or even been involved in whatever. BILLC, I am too old and slow to beat anyones lap times, but you get the point I wasn making ..
Yes, bike set up is the riders fault. In the open letter JS said that his mechanics were sx only mechanics and could not get it set up right. I'm sure with having that perfect season that JS could steer his sx only mechanics in the proper direction. How is the mechanic to know what to do to the bike if he is not getting the correct feed back. It is a team effort, maybe I am wrong and JS just wanted to make sure the team was to blame for the awful day they had.
whatever, I know alot of guys are relentless on Stewie, but if you watch, my problem with Stewie is his attitude is terrible. It is the main focus when ever you ask me that. If you look back, I have never said he wasnt fast, or talented, or any of that. aI even picked him to win a moto at Unadilla(boy was I wrong). But I have said this before, he has the Larry Brooks I'm the greatest ever attitude. Just like Reed had when he was there. That is when Reed lost his fans, same with Stewie.. I dont hate anyone, and he is very fast, but with the hotshot attitude(going as far as saying RC shouldnt be callled the GOAT) he lost my respect for him as a professional..
i didnt say just any 450 motocrosser "bd"......i said "js" 450, or any factory 450.....BIG BIG difference man. I'd rather have you respond to my last two posts, c'mon, i know you must have some thoughts on it, you usually do.
"yamahaa", there was absolutely NOWHERE in that letter he wrote where he said his mechanics were SX mechanics only and they "could not set it up right"...absolutely nowhere. It is easy to just make stuff up even if it was not said. If you interpret the statement, "we are a sx only team and we looked like a sx only team" to mean he was blaming his mechanics, then there is no way to have a discussion with you about this. SO, i will ask again, regardless of whether a rider is giving proper "feedback", you think that poor bike set up is irrelevant to performance huh?? What are your thoughts to my statements above that Makita Suzuki, who had the current #1 bike in MX (2009) had trouble with set up at Hangtown.....is that BS, is it anyones "fault"....was that DUngeys fault?? I am honestly asking you to read the posts and try to engage in a discussion about it without making up stuff that was not said. Is it because James said "we" struggled with bike set up?? It is a TEAM man.....Dungey and his people said "we" when they referenced poor bike set up. Help me understand where you are coming from on this??
Hell, everyone else has put their opinion out there, here's mine: The MXDN team for the US is a good one, Dungey and Canard are on fire and Andrew Short does know how to race and win so give the guy a chance. Guys like Short can pull a rabbit out of their hat and have the race of their lives, especially when it counts like the MXDN. James Stewart is blazing fast no doubt, but this time around, HE WAS NOT THE BEST PICK at this time. His team is an SX-only team, and they would have to work very hard, very fast to get him decent outdoor settings by the time the MXDN rolled around. If Stewart could get back to racing outdoors in 2011, then the AMA SHOULD consider him for the MXDN at that point, but not until then.
Anyone who signs a sx only contract knows that they will be forfeiting their chance to be on team USA. End of story. If (the decision makers ) told JS7 he would have a shot if he came back at Unadilla, Who said it and what did they say? I think if that really happened James would have called them out right away. AS far as quitting because of bike set up, the bike was good enough to get 3rd the first moto. James has access to anything he needs. That said the suspension mechanic is only as good as the feedback he gets from the rider. For James to blame everything but himself for not being able to win is a joke.Until Stewart can take responsibility and quit making excuses he is losing fans by the truck load !!
Sef reread my post, its completely accurate. Yes 10+ guys that I think can beat Short or have beaten Short this season, what part of that is not correct???? If they haven't raced Short head to head I base my opinion on the fact they have won nationals, SX races, GP's, or world championships at the highest level. Short has not won any races against the big names here or abroad or any championships I can think of. (actually, I think short has won a Euro SX) Yes "I names" 3 Americans on there too, Dungey, Stewart, Canard because they have beaten Short in 450 SX, 450 outdoors which I think shows Short as 4th or later. (could argue Windham, Millisaps, Villipoto etc.) Now on to the 10+ "Euros" plus the Americans. Also, It doesn't matter what class the Euros say they are gonna ride today 1, 2, 3, because until they line up guys can and will switch classes for what ever reasons. 1. Cairoli 2.DaSalle 3.Pourcel 4.Roczen 5.Musquin 6.Metcalfe 7.Townley 8.Ramon 9.Nagl 10.Philipaerts 11. Metcalfe 12. Townley Euros who wont be there that can or have beaten Short, 13. Paulin 14. Reed
The bottom line is this...James Stewart DID NOT prove he was a good choice for the MXDN period! The set up on his bike was good enough for a 3rd in the 1st moto but not good enough to continue the 2nd moto? You cant pick a rider based on his 08 results so Short at this point in time proves to be the best choice based on 2nd in the standing, consistancy, and great starts. I wouldnt be shocked to see Stewart battling for the win the next few weeks but the pick has been made.
Ok, so it appears unanimous. Dungeys performance at Hangtown had absolutely NOTHING to do with bike set up and it was ALL just his own personal fault!!!! Nobody else, not the bike, nothing, he just sucked that day, right??? WHATEVER!!!
JO11...... Short outside the top 10 ? No Sir. Yeah most of those names you mentioned are blazing fast and yeah for some reason he loses steam when passed by the ultra fast , however, I disagree and predict top two or better in MX3 . Not sure what other class he combos with but 6-8 OA there minimum. As a matter fact how about a friendly wager payable at Pala ? JimM Carlsbad CA
I didn't say you were inaccurate, JOH. I do, however, stand my ground regarding the makeup of the MXdN and how it bodes for Shorty's selection. But I'll add this. Last year, across the globe, Ivan Tedesco finished third in his first moto, beating Roczen, Musquin, Metcalfe, Ramon, Nagl, and finishing just behind Philipaerts. In his second moto, he finished seventh despite being knocked down by Philipaerts. So you seem to be saying Andrew isn't capable of doing as well in not only his own country, but his home state. I respectfully disagree. And along with Dungey's 3-1 and Weimer's one eighth place finish (the other being the throw-away), that was enough for victory last year. I feel good about Dungey's chances to top last year's performance (or at least equal it) and for Canard to top Weimer's. And I also have a good feeling about Short doing more than you give him credit for.
And whatever, maybe nobody wants to get into it with you about Dungey's setup because he didn't pull off at Hangtown, and he didn't leave there complaining or sending out "Open Letters." Will you get off that freakin' soapbox?! (I already know the answer to that one.)
LOL bd200 I still want to see it ;). I think if JS was givein the time that it looks like he was told he had he would be ready. He was very good in moto 1 last week and will only get better from here so i don't see how some still say he is done and RD is the man after one race but what ever. As for Short, i don't see how some STILL think he can win, Like the guy above says Soon..soon. WHAT?? He has had years and still can't get it done. Before you slam me, I like short a lot but it is what it is. He is a SOLID, SOLID guy but NOT a Top guy like RD, JS, RV ect them guys are at another level that short just can't get to and the clock says he won't get there. either way we should win so GO USA!!!
Shorty did not look to good at his "HOME" track a few months ago sef so don't bet to much on it. Not saying he won't do well but there is not a lot to back up that claim.
YZSEAN...check out this link...you will sound much more intelligent if you actually type like you are...http://www.spellchecker.net/spellcheck/
In closing, I hope Im wrong and I would LOVE for Short to ride the race of his life/career in front of his home state crowd and help the USA and win again. Im NOT upset Short is on the team, Im disappointed Stewart isn't because I know he would be ready/bike setup by next month. I really don't have any favorites, if you see me at the races you will see me sitting with Pourcel, then Stewarts camp, Ill stop in and chat with Windham, then go see Ping (borrow Townley's helmet so I can ride a scooter around the pits, thanks again Ping) that night Ill have dinner with Reed and Byrne, let Langston spill food and drinks all over me (you owe me dude) Im honest, speak my mind and have REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS of who these guys are and what they can and cant do, so nobody gives me "****" about "crossing into enemy camps" for a chat or to enjoy the A/C in their rigs. Actually, Rory from Bridgestone use to give me hell for going to the Dunlop truck to talk to Broc. However, Rory is a dirty Irishman who cant be trusted.....
James laid down the fastest lap, just in practice...and James did that first time out without years of testing, and the amazing team that RD has behind him...at that level, it matters...and he has been doing it since he arrived to the pro ranks...that is why he is the fastest man on the planet...I agree with the author...put a gun to my head, I want 7 over 29 any day...29 will holeshot and fade...against the best in the world, that might be a quick fade...
Is it me or do you swallow your pride and go 3-8 and take the heat for that rather than go 3-Quit. I know when you ride out of your normal zone bad things can happen but you now who should have been able to get eigth in his sleep. JimM CarlsbadCA
BILLC...i totally agree...
Short went down in moto one at Thunder Valley (and still managed eighth) and then was third in moto two, and he's been getting stronger since then. Last year, he went 2-2 there and finished ahead of Tedesco in the Nationals, yet Ivan produced the performance I described above at MXdN. It just seems, BillC, like you downplay Short at every turn (while adding your little disclaimer: "He is a SOLID, SOLID guy but...."). As for your statement that he's not a top guy "like RD, JS, RV ect" (etc, actually), who is this etc? No one in AMA racing has proved himself better, and RV is hurt and James, well, we've already heard an array of opinions about him on this page. Andrew Short IS OUR MX3 GUY AT MXDN. Get your head around it!
soapbox: noun-figurative "a thing that provides an opportunity for someone to air their views publicly"....Hmmmmmmm, thats weird!! None of that going on here is there??? Oh, if it is a certain individuals topic then that particular topic is ok.......i see......
It's not the topic; it's your failure to realize that your thousands of words on it are over the top.
Last year there was the same "sky is falling" attitude about the team we sent and guess what?--We won. I see no reason to wait around to see if Stewart would have been ready or not. The USA has the deepest MX talent pool in the world. I'm not at all worried.
Geez, have I been gone for part of a day or a week? That's a lot of jibber-jabber! Larry's heading to Florida on Sunday to get some sand testing done? So they haven't been at it all week? Well, now that DC explained that the tracks were smoothed out in 2008 we know what the problem was. Thinking back to all those "riding with James" videos on TWMX the past month, his bike was twitchy and squirrelly there as well. I guess it only on a track with other top racers. But I'm sure they'll have it all figured out in a 2 week span, after taking 2 months to come with those crappy settings that were so terrible. I get a kick out of the fact that they are so eager to get the bike right that Larry is heading to Florida on Sunday. How about last Monday? I wonder if Sorby is still there drinking and all around mucking it up. Bring on Southwick.
I'm amazed that the sentiment about the team (from JS fans) seems to be that this team can't do it. BillC, did I read you comment that the MXoN isn't about consistency? This is crazy.
I don't get the whole "settings" thing. Those "settings" were good enough for the fastest practice times. I realize it got rougher throughout the day but it always does.
JohnnyO', I'm surprised that you feel the need to diminish Short in defense of Stewart. Referring to DeSalle as a "tourist" and Stewart as "off the couch" is rhetoric (borrowing from Ping) intended to diminish Short. DeSalle is no tourist and if James "came off the couch" he should really be ashamed for giving zero effort. You know better. DeSalle is currently #2 in the world and Stewart is the supposed FMOTP. Funny that you bring Stewart down to a level that suits your purpose on one end (diminish Short) while the reason you are trying to diminish Short is to pump James up as a MXoN choice! Not very well thought out. Short will do fine even though he can't beat a tourist on a borrowed bike.
"whatever", I dont understand how my comment had anything to do with RD's setup. I think most of us , you included, would agree that bike set up had a lot to do with Dungey's performance at Hangtown. What I'm saying is whether it was bike setup or James got tired or frustrated or whatever the reason, he didnt finish the 2nd moto. If a rider doesnt race for most of the supercross season and most of the outdoor season then he would have to prove himself worthy of being picked no matter who he is don't you agree. I said before if he came out and killed it then you have an arguement for possibly getting short changed because of the announcement before the race. I agree with you that under normal circumstances JS would be an obvious choice but unfortunately he got injured. So our obvious choice becomes the fastest and most consistant rider after Dungey and that is Short...tell me you agree ( think about those Roger Waters tickets before you answer lol.
Smokin, you make too much sense. Could it be that getting bad starts makes the bike feel like a bad setup? Dungey got bad starts at Hangtown, he hasn't since. Noticeable difference in results. James got a bad start moto 2, we saw what happened. I'm wondering if Roger and friends were accomodating Stewart and putting together this 5 rider team and at some point said "What are we doing?" When have they ever had a 5 rider selection that they then apparently would choose the 3 from? Never. This would have been a special edition to include James and give him his shot. Which means the final decision wouldn't have come for another week or two from NOW under that situation. Although, I think the deadline for selections was fast approaching. I think Roger just decided it was all getting ridiculous and that they need to be moving forward with preparations. Maybe at the point where he learned BubbaCam would be there is when he got fed up (if he indeed was fed up)? At least that makes some sense of why they would wait and then stop waiting and choose.
Whatever" Bike set up is on the rider testing trying new things every rider is different yes Suz. had a good base to start from. And yes RD5 dropped the ball if set up was his problem at the first race or maybe it was his rookie year and had just came off a very trying SX championship. You cant believe how many people are pulling you in so many different directions wanting something from the new champ. I don't know why he was of the pace he is setting now at the first round if it was bike set up or what but he did say "HE DID NOT HAVE THE SET UP" did not blame any one but himself! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Correct me if I'm mistaken (and im sure someone will) but the diff bettween 5's and 7's setup was that Dungey chose to ride through the adversity which should tell all you need to know. JimM CarlsbadCa
BKR ----your post makes ZERO sense, what a feeble attempt to disagree. In what way is did I diminish Short by saying Stewart is off the sofa? Facts, Stewart hasn't ridden outdoors since 2008 or Supercross in 6months recovering from wrist injury. That would be considered off the sofa in any sport. Facts (as reported on TV by Emig, Weege)---DaSalle was in fact here on break from the GP's as a "tourist" not racing the US series, on a borrowed bike, on borrowed suspension, on a track he has never ridden before and spanked Short. Also, Ping doesn't influence anything I say or write Im a big boy. How did I bring Stewart down again?? By stating he fact that he beat Short in the first moto after not riding outdoors for 2 years?? Actually it was well thought out, Stewart has ALWAYS been faster than Short, Short has NEVER beaten Stewart and still after not racing outdoors for 2 years or after 6 months with a wrist injury Stewart manages to ride faster?? Facts, Facts, Facts. Im sure Short will do fine at the MXDN, but I think Stewart would have done better.
Stewart has turned into Alessi, out of shape and blaming the bike and the "setup" give us a break the only difference between Stewart and Alessi is Alessi DIDN'T QUIT AND GIVE UP AND RIDE OFF THE TRACK When's Villopoto coming back maybe he can run with Dungey and Short and Windham.
'johnnyohannah11", Short has beaten Stewart. He beat Stewart in the 2nd moto last week. you say that Desalle beat Short on a borrowed bike but he also beat Stewart on a borrowed bike. I don't doubt that Stewart will once again be "the man" , but the facts are at this point in time Short isthe best choice.
In the words of Rodney King..can't we just all get along? :)
Johnny" Smoken does have a point Short did beat him in moto 2. Smoken that was a good one made me laugh good one! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Yes 10+ guys that I think can beat Short or have beaten Short this season, what part of that is not correct???? " **Writing down JohnnyO's words so that he may eat them at the appropriate time** ;o)
Geeee SEF is shorty really going to the MXD?? I did not know that!!!and U ask who is this etc?.. MC, RC, RJ, Wardy... should I go on or do u get it yet?? Point is Shorty has had EVER opertuity for YEARS and CAN'T get over the hump and WIN!!!.. BKR a won race deal is NOT about consistency, Its about doing what ever you need to do to get to the front, A season of 24 motos is where consistency comes into it, Thats where Short shines not in a 1 race balls out deal thats where JS shines better than short.
YZSEAN RD did say" WE" after the first race, HE always does.
JohnnyO', I used the word "rhetoric" which was referenced in the Ask Ping column this week. Had nothing to do with his influence over you. Anyway, you called DeSalle a "tourist" and Stewart "off the couch" for a purpose. Why? The (rhetorical) insinuation is that Short can't beat a tourist on borrowed equipment or a guy that's been lounging on the couch for 8 months. Weege and Emig were tongue in cheek calling them a tourist and off the couch. They know Stewart has been working hard to return. Your purpose was to diminish Short as the choice for MXoN, which is further supported by your list of GP guys that can beat Short. You can say my "attempt" to disagree is feeble and my post makes "zero sense" but that is just more rhetoric. Saying such things doesn't make it so. Maybe it's true that you don't even understand WHY you used "tourist" and "off the couch" in your original post, but you did all the same. I mean, after all the posts you've made about trying to show why Bubba is a better choice than Short, you don't realize you were trying to diminish Short's abilities?
BillC, (again) I can't believe we can't even agree that the MXoN requires consistency. Consistency, even in ONE race, would be finishing 1-1, 2-1, 3-2, 2-3 etc. Inconsistent would be 1-35, 28-2...understand? With a mentality of win or crash, especially in a one race format, you think that is good for the team? Yeah it is necessary to get good results at MXoN, but also necessary to be consistent. Was Cairoli consistent last year? No, and his team lost because of it. Understand? I agree Stewart is faster, but he can be very inconsistent.....noted by his 3-35 at Unadilla. How would 3-35 play at MXoN?
Hey here's one for ya. What happened at MXoN 2008? Who crashed while leading putting the US win in jeapordy? Answer: James Stewart (24-0 that year). Who then turned hero and saved the day? Answer: Tim Ferry. Consistency not an element at MXoN? Ok. James went 1-23 that day.
BKR I agree ya need to be in it to win it (consistent) My ONLY point is that consistency is NOT as importain as speed and balls at this race, Ya NEED both but speed is a liite bit more importain because if someone breaks or crashes at the MXD consistencys goes out the window and now someone needs to lay down some wicked laps!! Who better than JS for that? Thay can ALL be consistent but only a few can fly. Not being a smart a** but does that make more sence now? Also why do you keep going back to JS 3-35 at the dilla (do u feel thats all he will have in 5 weeks), Everyone who is aruging about JS as a pick seems to relize he would be in MUCH better shape in 5 weeks( thats why they and I think he would be a better pick) so his moto 2 pull off because of bike and being tired would be moot IMO.
Here is a good question, Who starts in the 2nd row RD or Shorty?? I say ya gota have RD start in the 2nd row we know he will not get tired or lose focus.
James, step back and understand, America was founded BY Lieing, Cheating, Stealing, and Killing! THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE AMA! AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE ASSOCIATION
So because Stewart dropped out of the 2nd moto at Unadilla his entire list of championships, race wins and accomplishments are erased because Short "beat him" in a moto that Stewart didnt even race him??? Short is now the better faster rider??? Seriously?? That is the STUPIDEST THING IVE EVER READ ON HERE.
Really JOH, immediately following what Team Sheikster posted? Sheiky baby, we need to hear anti-American sentiment when discussing who the best choice for the US MXoN team would be? Those saying Short beat Stewart moto 2 did so tongue in cheek, in response to you saying Short NEVER has beaten James. I guess you can't beat someone though if they pull of on their own terms. BillC, I'll go with all of them starting on the front row. I'm watching the 2009 MXoN right now, and they all started in the same row.
BKR---"diminish Short's abilities" I dont have the power to do that, to the contrary, it makes what Stewart and DaSalle did even more incredible because Short is a solid rider. DaSalle beat Short in both motos, tourist from GP's, borrowed bike, track he never rode. (working vacation) thats pretty impressive for the Bel. Stewart beat Short in the first moto, after not riding outdoors 2 years, "on sofa" broken wrist for 6 months, to come back at the top tier of the sport and run with guys like Short is incredible!!
I have no idea what Sheikster posted there.
Hmmmm thay always did 2 rows i tought,, RC was on the 2nd row in 07 i though although from where I was I could not see the start. Maybe the "2nd' guy just gets the bad pick 1/20, 2/21, 3/22 ect i guess. Years ago I know for sure they did 2 rows though. Did they cut the field to the top 20 team for the "A" race and all the rest of the countrys go to the "b" race??
sheikster, one of the cool things about the USA is that no one is keeping you here. A fellow of your obvious talents and education ought not be constrained by the limitations that come with US citizenship. Your name suggests an appreciation of Arabic cultures. Perhaps your destiny is there. Do note that if you go and should you share with them an opinion like the above, you will be dead within the week. I'm willing to pop for a ticket and a microphone.
Thanks, BillC, "We" is correct. Way earlier BKR, you implied that maybe what RD THOUGHT was a bad bike set up was really just a bad start!!! WHAT???? So you think he comes off the track saying "this" wasnt feeling right and "that" setting was a little off and goose and Roger look at him and say, "No, it wasnt the bike, you just got a bad start"......... Do You REALLY think that?? These guys "feel" things in a motorcycle you and i will never be able to notice, well i will speak for myself, maybe you can, i dont know!!!!
The more I debate with you, BillC, the more I realize what a waste of time it is. Yes, Shorty is really going to the MXdN. I thought I’d point that out because I’m ALREADY sick of you and others going on and on about why he shouldn’t be. As for your “etc.” … “MC, RC, RJ, Wardy...” Really? We’re talking about the selection of the 2010 MXdN team, and these are the names you’re comparing Short to? I’m pretty sure they weren’t eligible (and also that each of them would tell you Andrew would kick their ass in 2010). Ay caramba! Also, you say “speed is a liite bit more importain because if someone breaks or crashes at the MXD consistencys goes out the window.” But as BKR’s example shows, when speed (Stewart) results in a crash (MXdN ’08), it’s up to consistency (Ferry) to save the day. Also, once someone crashes, there’s no room for any other problems. I realize some of you will gripe and debate from now ‘til Sept. 26, but I’m already tired of it.
Well Sef if you are tired of it take your pail and go like JS did in moto 2, Don't come on here and lecture to US that U are sick of talking about it, We will stop talking about it when WE want to stop. You and bd200 seem to think u run the show here... BUT U Don't.
"[T]ake your pail and go like JS did in moto 2"? Your usual maturity ... and an insult to the very rider you're arguing should go to des Nations!
Bill, yeah I know they used to. I remember they had a strategy in 1986 where Bailey pulled aside to let O'mara through after the gate dropped. All I know about it is they didn't do it last year. JohnnyO', I think Stewart would have been a good choice but it is hard to choose a guy coming off injury when you have a capable guy at the ready. I think he would have been completely fit and ready if he was the choice, but I don't know how you make that choice sight unseen. Last year Tedesco went over Short because Short was recovering from injury....even though he was fine come MXoN time. The Unadilla results cetainly didn't paint James as a great selection, if they had based the choice on that. I would not have cared which way they chose, except it's like there is a tidal wave of crap Short is getting from Stewart fans now in defense of James. Short will do fine and the whole team is going to whip some ass barring a bunch of mechanical issues.
And then there's Team Sheikster, who says in his profile, "Im a cool ass supercross n motocross fan! King James Stewart is my number 1 Rider. Jason Lawrence is number 2." 'Nuff said!
I thought you were tired of this SEF... You are somthing I will give u that.
The more I think about it BKR there was an "A" and a "B" race so they must take the to 20 teams from the Qualifiers so there all on the"front" line. But split the gate picks like i said, First Qualifier gets picks 1 and 20 ect.
Whatever, here is Ryan Dungey recently on Hangtown (courtesy of MXA)..."Hangtown was definitely a tough race. I don’t really know what to say about it. The Supercross series was so close with the point standings, and I wanted to stick with Supercross instead of turning my attention outdoors. Then, as soon as I knew it the outdoors were starting. We only had two or three weeks to test. It came so fast, and I don’t know if I wasn’t confident in the bike or what else it could have been. What I do know is that after Hangtown I became more comfortable and found a couple of settings that worked really well. Then when I showed up to Texas I was much better prepared. I was able to go 1-1 on the day, and I didn’t expect to do that. I put forth my best effort out on the track. Hangtown was just one of those off days". The point he is making is he isn't sure what the deal was at Hangtown. Did he get good starts? You make it sound like I'm lying and he got good starts and faded back. Got off the bike and told Erin Bates, "Bike sucks!". He got bad starts and moved forward, but not to the front. Much like I've seen other top riders have problems with many times this year. This is a very fast group. One week Tommy Hahn or Ryan Sipes are top 5 with a good start, others they have trouble breaking into the top 10 with a bad one. Do you disagree with that?
Oh and we saw James Stewart learn that a bad start really sucks this year. Battling it out with Alessi in 11th. As the caption says "Ouch....for both of them"
Its funny, I watcherd "The King" race several times. His name is Jeremy Mcgrath. Sheikster is one of those clowns who is a fan when "one " rider is out there. Otherwise has no intrest.
It's funny there is 176 posts on her that might be the most i have seen in a lone time. The only time i have seen this many posts was back in the J-flaw days. Every one likes the drama let's just hope Bubble's keeps racing outdoors i would like to see him show us some good racing. But i don't think this year he will have anything for RD5 but how knows! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sean, I would love to see James ride outdoors for the next few years. If he doesn't though we still have plenty to watch with RV, Pourcel, Canard, Dungey and all the kids coming up. Plus there are lots of young GP guys looking to come over.
BKR" I agree if the big guys can make it thou SX and the yearo's coming over next year it could be one of the best ever. I would think Bubble's would wont to race with all the fast guys it could be sweet cant wait. But this year has been good for me to being a RD5 fan he did pretty good this year! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"whatever" you push for people to answer "your" questions, you didnt answer mine. How many races have you been involved in?? And 450 is a 450. The teams have a ton of parts that we cant get. But ask any rider. They actually mellow out the "hit" on the 450 bikes. They have so much power off the floor the pure speed of the factory bikes arent a whole lot different than the privateers bikes. Its the fine tuning to make the bike so perfect for each individual riders that the big teams have such a huge advantage. And of course all those special parts that no one can have. Including the suspension.
BillC" If you go to the interview RD5 did for Racer X video you will see he said I never ones did he say US. RD5 does not put his mistakes on others he man's up and takes full responsibility! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can't pick a rider for the MXDN on a prediction of where they will be in 5 weeks!
Wow, this is a long thread right??? Man I hate these off weeks with no racing, I actually had to do something today!!!! (split three coards of oak)..... Hope I left something in the tank for some laps tomarrow!!! Hey ELF846, I'll put money yzsean isn't using another username!!!!lol
Fancypants" I hope he is not talking about me i have know problem saying what i wont under YZSEAN. But apparently i am the worst speller on here so if the other poster that you are taking about spell bad thank god i am not the only one! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No worries, yz….. You were not on the list of primary suspects. Still……I am a little suspicious of your ability, to always correctly spell the big words (like ‘apparently’) and yet, routinely mis-spell the little words, like ‘no’. Just sayin…
ELF" I am a idiot savant but in all truthfulness i no i cant spell for S@@T. But that's ok i have many other wonderful Qualities like my great send of humor! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant sens of humor see even when i try to spell it right it comes out wrong! DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have actually seen the Sheikster pop in from time to time, always with some similar point regarding James Stewart from that same viewpoint he displayed here. I think he is just himself. And ya gotta love YZsean, his spelling is horrible, but he makes good points, never gets mad when people slam him, and he does have a good "sens" of humor. haha Sean.
I'd be happy if more out here just had "sens."
Dam "SENSE" i cant get anything right! The only thing i get right is DUNGEY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!