Sign of the (Lap) Times: Unadilla
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Riders
- Travis Baker
- Ryan Dungey
- Justin Brayton
- Josh Grant
- Ryan Sipes
- Dean Wilson
- Chris Pourcel
- James Stewart
- Blake Wharton
- Andrew Short
- Kyle Regal
- Martin Davalos
- Justin Barcia
- Tyla Rattray
- Trey Canard
- Kyle Chisholm
- Nico Izzi
- Kevin Windham
- Brett Metcalfe
- Darryn Durham
- Wil Hahn
- Eli Tomac
Races
Perhaps no track has more history soaked into its soil than New Berlin, New York's Unadilla Valley Sports Center, with Trans-AMA, USGP, MXdN and AMA National races all on its resume. And while the track has gone through some changes over the last few years, the basics remain the same--rough, fast, rocky, with some huge jumps baked into the natural elevation change of the land.
This is one of the trickiest tracks on the tour thanks to the speed, the slippery, hard-packed dirt and the massive obstacles. What you have, then, are fast laps all over the place. Check the lap charts below and you'll see how no one could agree on the best lap to go fast on.
450 Moto 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:07.475 | 4 | Ryan Dungey |
| 2 | 2 | 2:07.647 | 3 | Clemente Desalle |
| 3 | 3 | 2:08.026 | 3 | James Stewart |
| 4 | 5 | 2:08.886 | 8 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 5 | 7 | 2:09.600 | 4 | Ben Townley |
| 6 | 6 | 2:09.773 | 4 | Josh Grant |
| 7 | 4 | 2:10.008 | 4 | Andrew Short |
| 8 | 9 | 2:10.608 | 3 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 9 | 17 | 2.10.857 | 6 | Ryan Sipes |
| 10 | 8 | 2:11.698 | 3 | Kyle Regal |
450 Moto 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:10.542 | 10 | Ryan Dungey |
| 2 | 2 | 2:11.661 | 5 | Clemente Desalle |
| 3 | 3 | 2:12.044 | 6 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 4 | 6 | 2:12.379 | 3 | Kyle Regal |
| 5 | 5 | 2:12.466 | 3 | Andrew Short |
| 6 | 4 | 2:12.740 | 16 | Kevin Windham |
| 7 | 10 | 2:13.096 | 3 | Ryan Sipes |
| 8 | 9 | 2:13.623 | 3 | Ben Townley |
| 9 | 14 | 2.13.655 | 7 | Josh Grant |
| 10 | 7 | 2:13.705 | 5 | Justin Brayton |
Shocked? Ryan Dungey was fastest in both 450 motos.
Carl Stone photo
Yes, Ryan Dungey was the fastest man of the 450 class at the 'Dilla, with Clemente Desalle second fastest in both motos--no surprise since they went 1-2 in each race, also. A few other things to note, such as James Stewart logging third-fastest in moto one after scoring the fastest times in practice. And you want to talk about hard charging? Kevin Windham went down hard in moto one and failed to finish, and returned in moto two to score a come-from-behind fourth place finish. Note KW's fastest lap came on the 16th and final lap of the day. He passed his teammate Andrew Short in the last turn to grab that fourth-place finish. Impressive.
250 Moto 1
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 3 | 2:12.020 | 8 | Justin Barcia |
| 2 | 4 | 2:12.215 | 8 | Eli Tomac |
| 3 | 1 | 2:12.567 | 10 | Trey Canard |
| 4 | 2 | 2:12.929 | 10 | Bake Wharton |
| 5 | 6 | 2:13.114 | 7 | Dean Wilson |
| 6 | 5 | 2:13.796 | 3 | Tyla Rattray |
| 7 | 38 | 2:14.481 | 1 | Christophe Pourcel |
| 8 | 33 | 2:14.606 | 7 | Darryn Durham |
| 9 | 14 | 2.14.923 | 6 | Wil Hahn |
| 10 | 7 | 2:15.237 | 4 | Nico Izzi |
250 Moto 2
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 2:12.980 | 8 | Christophe Pourcel |
| 2 | 2 | 2:13.619 | 7 | Trey Canard |
| 3 | 3 | 2:14.035 | 5 | Dean Wilson |
| 4 | 4 | 2:14.510 | 8 | Tyla Rattray |
| 5 | 5 | 2:14.535 | 7 | Justin Barcia |
| 6 | 6 | 2:14.869 | 4 | Eli Tomac |
| 7 | 9 | 2:15.527 | 7 | Blake Wharton |
| 8 | 7 | 2:15.913 | 5 | Darryn Durham |
| 9 | 8 | 2.17.473 | 9 | Martin Davalos |
| 10 | 10 | 2:17.639 | 2 | Travis Baker |
Justin Barcia crashed in both motos, but still scored second overall thanks to his fast lap times.
Simon Cudby photo
Again, there were a variety of different laps when riders went fast at this track, some early in the race, some more toward the second half. And one rider had no choice--in the first 250 moto, Christophe Pourcel only logged one full lap time before crashing out, but that was still good enough for the seventh fastest time.
Trey Canard won the moto, but as we've seen several times during his four-race win streak, he was not the fastest rider even though he won. His teammates Justin Barcia and Blake Wharton were faster on an individual lap, but Barcia fell and Wharton didn't start clicking them off until late.
No surprise in moto two, Pourcel won the race with a come-from-behind victory, and he had the fastest time there.
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K-DUB!!! Lap 16 moto 2 To pass short in the last corner!!! NICE
right on Bill C! I like short a lot, but to see K-Dub throw down his fastest lap that late in moto 2 was amazing!
JS#7= (3rd) Fastest man on the planet. I suppose this settles the argument, for now....... Also, not doing tv interview after 2nd moto pull-out shows ZERO class & MUCHO immaturity. Maybe the fragile ego is showing cracks. Get ready for P.R. citing nagging injury, butt warts, loose spokes, anything but getting beat straight up by better riders. Getting whupped on by Belgian tourista has got to be a brutal reality check for the whole "James Stewart Entertainment" clan. Time to find another cash cow JSE posse. The clingons scramble......
carlsbad, don't cash James out just yet..... He will be faster nextime out.... But the compitition has improved. RD5 will not roll over. And Reed will be back, stronger, hopefully faster.... It can only get better....
This will help K-Dub's 2011 SX season start off on pace and in shape!!!!! That's going to be sweet... Looking at Cudby's Shots of Dilla (nice work Simon), I noticed Stewart jumping with his front end higher than his usuall low front wheel and body over the front of the bike style. I also noticed it when i watched the first moto archive, indicating that he has lost some of his form..... He has plenty of speed, and when he is back in shape, his form will improve...I hope he stays with his plans on riding the last few rounds, I love watching that dude ride!!!
I wouldn't call dungey vs. stewart at unadilla 2010, "straight up". He said before the race he wasn't 100%. Put it all into perspective.
ELF846, what does it take for you Stewie die-hards to give someone some credit. Now Stewie didnt crash or nothing and it still isnt "straight-up" Thats a bunch of bull. He got beat, straight up. It happens to everyone. And its not a insult to get beat by a guy riding the way Dungey is.
Belgian tourista....that is funny Carlsbad. I agree ELF846 that wasn't THE James Stewart but I find a pattern emerging that is very interesting. It's never "straight up" when Stewart loses, there's always something that was the WHY it happened.
I am not a 'die-hard', I could care less either way. I am just saying that you have to consider all of the facts, and take the emotions out of it altogether. I dont have a favorite rider, just a favorite sport. MOTOCROSS.
bd200, can't help but agree. What if Stewart holeshot and Dungey gated about 10th? If Stewart beat him I suppose that would be straight up, regardless that Stewart "wasn't ready"?
And, i hope that when stewart IS 100%, and battles dungey "straight up', that he will be eloquent on the podium, if he is beaten, and say the right things, to please everybody. I thought he showed respect at unadilla.....
It's similar to what we see with lots of other riders coming back from injury. They have to decide.... should I come back early, and race myself into shape (which is better from the riders point of view) ....or wait til I am truly 100% healthy, so I can ride to my full potential ? When they come back early, and don't perform up to thier normal standards, then people say they suck, and are all washed up. Kind of a lose/lose situation. If they are lucky, the injury will occur near the end of outdoors, so that they will have the 'off season' to recuperate. So, I am not making any excuses for #7, I'm just seeing it for what it is. When the stewart that raced r/c, gets back, he will have more for dungey, and then I will consider it to be 'straight up'. R/C beat stewart, but THAT stewart was stronger and healthier and faster than the one at unadilla last weekend.
ELF846 the haters never look at the facts, He is not 100%, yes he got beat but lets get real people give the guy a few races to get in the grove, On the Flip side if JS won both motos the RD fans would CRY he is going for the title and does not need to beat JS so the beat goes on. I said lase week give RD 2 weeks to lock it up and JS the 2 races to get rolling and then its go time the last 4 motos.
One problem BillC...you were worried that Dungey wouldn't accept the challenge and just let Stewart run away with it, until he wrapped up the title. I don't recall you ever saying anything about letting Stewart have 2 races to get rolling...... ELF I agree, but no one has that same problem to the extent Stewart has. Because he has many times let his ego run wild, he has talked himself into a position no other rider of today is in. No one said anything about Tedesco's rides. I believe we will see RV before the season ends, but no one will expect anything from him...whatever he does will be good enough for everyone, whether he goes 1-1 or 9-9. Shortly after Stewart started riding in July, he was on Matthes' show saying anything less than 1-1 would be disappointing. Then last week he started with the "not ready" talk. Well, reading this new open letter certainly sounds like he was readier than he said....it was all bike setup apparently. Larry Brooks was just telling us he was extremely tired in moto 2 and that is why he pulled off, now not so much according to James. I think THAT is what irritates me the most....they treat us like we are a bunch of morons and continuously insult our intelligence. Maybe those that love Stewart so much are just oblivious to that?
BillC, only 2 things have me astonished so far, and that's how much Dungey beat James by and the fact that he pulled off 2nd moto. James still has 6 more motos to do it though.
Please dont take this as me 'defending' stewart, I mostly agree with what you say BKR. But, maybe that is what he meant by "tired". He said he was fighting the bike the whole way around the track, because it was way too stiff, and not set up properly. And ,that track was gnarly, so it could have been some serious 'arm pump' . But, I wish he would have stayed out there, and gutted it out, just to keep people from labeling him as a 'quitter' (again). But, I guess if he had finished in 15th, then he would have just as many bashers to deal with. I do NOT believe in his decision to go with L & M when he did. SX only is BullS*it, and I have a difficult time respecting ANY top racer who chooses to participate in it. I wish L & M would just go away. But, at the time he left kawi ,he only had one other choice, which was at honda. I wish he would have gone there instead.
Also, think about this... A riders 'on track' skills, do not necessarily always equal his 'people' or PR skills. Just because you are fast, doesn't mean that you are automatically a PR specialist. There are guys battling for 35th place every week, that may be brilliant on the podium, and in the eyes of the fans and media, but their 'on track' skills will not have them standing in front of a microphone anytime soon, so we will never know. That is what made the goat the goat, he rode fast, won titles AND 'did and said all the right things".
Agreed ELF. On the setup, I gotta believe they have a whole slew of forks and shocks with them with different setups to go with. I still find it hard to believe that the 2nd moto could get worse than the first. But the PR situation can be handled by a PR firm. In fact, I'm sure L&M has one on board. At the track though, it just requires being yourself or phony, for 5 minutes. James' 1st moto speech was quite good, humble, he said the right things. He has it in him. All he had to do was come out and repeat it with some changes. I think it is more Larry Brooks anyway. He's always got a chip on his shoulder and always seems like the angry old lady next door that was pissed off at the world.
BD200, Stewart did crash and almost got his 2nd place back if time didn't run out.
Oh yea my boy Barcia was fast. He is my favorite 250 rider. Plus he has the most style and no one can throw the bike sideways like Barcia on a 250.
BKR, I did say that, I will try to find it, As for Bike set up, What happen to RD at the first Nat?? He said the bike was not ready, said it again the other day soooooo??
Soooooo, which moto did he pull off in?
Are we talikng about finishing a moto or bike set up?? If finishing, First race ya do what ya gota do to get as many points as u can like RD did, but when you come in with 4 races left why kill your self to get 5th or what ever.. Just to make some people on line happy??
BILLC, its funny you go back to RD saying his bike wasnt ready. I remember you saying that was all B.S. too. That he is a pro and that was an excuse. You said that the bike was fine and RD wasnt ready. Did you forget that??
BD... Never said I agreed with or stuck up for JS about that excuse either,(stop fishing) Just showing how people treat dif riders in dif ways thats all
If you didn't say it, why do you have to go on and on and on in defense of Stewart. He's a big boy.
I dont think Stewie or his bike was ready. I think the bike setup was wrong, he was all over the track. And he flat got worn out. It was a big combination of both. And Southwick will be very rough, and I remember Stewie getting beat by RC by about 30 seconds on this track, and Langston running Stewie down and passing him. Stewie got him back, but it was a rough race for him. Its not going to get any easier on this track..
I just read the "open letter" and I'm not drinking the kool-aid. If racing for team USA is such a great honor, why didn't he do it a few years back when the "conditions" weren't optimal for him....Hogwash. There are riders that would take a bus to Bulgaria to ride for Team USA, not him. I'm upset because it smacks of big business lobbying for their own ends when there is already a better program in place for the greater good (with people who deserve to be there). Selfish, self-centered, nonsense if you ask me (nobody did though, by the way). Lastly, if he was only motivated to be there for his opportunity to be on the team (not for his fans or the sport or any one of a dozen reasons that motivate the rest of us to race), dude, stay home! I'll have my producers call your producers and suggest a new series, "Pull your head out while you still have a career to save, Jerk".
I guess the same reason you go on and on and on to beat him down Sef.
There you go, making things up again, Bill. Do you attribute everyone else's negative comments to me? Perhaps I should be flattered that you think so much of me. Odd how you twist things (along with your sidekick, whatever). I started off the week telling people how ridiculous their attacks on Stewart were. Then, when the "Open Letter" came out, I questioned James' judgment in posting it. Tell you what. Give me a direct quote where I "beat him down." One quote. (And try not to make it up.) I won't hold my breath waiting.