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Racerhead #30

Friday, July 27, 2012 | 6:05 PM

Welcome to Racerhead. It's an off-weekend for pro motocross in America, but just about every fast kid, vet, and amateur is here at Loretta Lynn Ranch in Hurricane Mills, Tennessee, for the 2012 Red Bull AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship. This marks the 31st year that the biggest race of all has been held on the ranch grounds of the famous country singer, going all the way back to 1982. The race has undergone quite a few changes over the years, but for the most part it remains the same: an even playing field, in the center of the country, on a track that's off-limits to any and every motocross rider for the rest of the year.

And for the first time, the Red Bull AMA Amateur Nationals at Loretta Lynn's will air on network TV. As part of the Red Bull Signature Series this event will be featured on NBC in the coming weeks. (We wanted them to cover Loretta Lynn's live, but they were busy with this whole Summer Olympics deal, so maybe next year....) Not bad for what my dad's friend Rick “Super Hunky” Sieman once described as “the best thing anyone ever did for a swamp.”

Though practice does not start until Monday, the ranch is already filling up. Of course there will be people coming from the races in Oklahoma throughout the weekend, with the first drop of the gate here at the ranch not coming until Tuesday morning. Then it's three long motos for each of the thirty-five or so classes, wrapping up on Saturday afternoon to give all of the racers and their families a good start on getting home by work (or school) on Monday.

I rolled into town on Wednesday, pulling a trailer full of equipment behind the red Toyota Tundra that serves as my mobile headquarters here for the ten days or so I’ll be here helping out. My brother-in-law Jeff Russell has been working on the track with Marc Peters and his sidekick Chad as they carved up the was green grass on Wednesday morning and have been prepping it with water, sand, sawdust, and a bunch of tender loving care. Everyone at MX Sports Amateur Racing prides themselves on giving every single rider a championship experience, so it’s a lot of work but a great deal of fun.

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Loretta Lynn's Ranch hosts horses for the rest of the year, but next week it will be America's fastest young motocross stars … and some old ones!
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There will likely be lots of parties and bench-races and barbecues—there were people already set up and camping and fishing and just hanging out last week! Plus there's the famous beer tent, our little amateur nod to those canvas castles of debauchery we see every year at the Motocross of Nations in Europe. There's also demo rides, visits by top riders for autograph signings, and just a whole bunch of motos to watch.

And then there's Ricky Carmichael, who will likely be doing all of the above, plus racing in the Junior +25 class! RC, the Greatest of All Time, is back as an amateur, which he always promised me he would do—but I never really believed him. Carmichael's last pro race was the 2007 Motocross of Nations (we don't really count the Navy U.S. Motocross race or whatever that was in San Diego in the spring of '08) and he passes the muster for racing as an amateur again: He hasn't had a pro license for more than a full season and is no longer racing on the circuit.

Needless to say, there are some who disagree with the GOAT being out there, just as they did when Barry Higgins came back to race, and then Tony DiStefano, and then Marty Smith, and then Mark Barnett, and then Jeff Emig, Keith Bowen, Trampas Parker, Robbie Reynard, Doug Dubach.... Personally, I love the idea of guys coming back after their pro careers are up, so long as they race in age divisions and don't try to drop down to a B or B/C class.

Believe it or not, the most protests we've gone through as far as class structure goes this year have been in that Vet B/C class. Working closely with the AMA's Kip Bigelow and his team, we've managed to weed out some past pros and expert-level riders who simply did not belong in that division. We're also working to close the loopholes some guys have tried to use to drop back down for this class. Thanks to everyone who emailed me information and statistics, and I want to particularly thank everyone on the Racer X and MX Sports team who built The Vaults for both pro and amateur motocross—especially Larry Lawrence, Nick McCabe, and Tim Boryk, plus our engineer Cole Thorson. It's getting harder and harder to stray from your past results....

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The GOAT makes his return to Loretta's next week.
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If you want to catch daily video coverage, check out MotorcycleUSA.com's MX Sports Center, hosted by Jason Weigandt, every night from the ranch. And stay tuned all week to Racer X Online for results, updates, photos, videos, and more. Also, check out what the gang at www.vurbmoto.com, www.insidermx.com and www.motoplayground.com have coming up—it's a big week for the amateur motocross media business, and these guys all have cool stuff in store.

Finally, if you want to follow along with all of the live timing and scoring, John Dains and his Trackside Scoring crew are here. We do not time practice here on Monday, so the timing and scoring will begin at 7:30 a.m. Central Time on Tuesday.

On a different note, congratulations to Nick Wey and his wife, Nicole, on the birth of Donovan Nicholas Wey on Wednesday. It's been quite a couple of weeks for NYK27: First he gets pummeled in that spectacular crash at Spring Creek, spends a week at the hospital, and is now thankfully home. “We have a bed set up for me downstairs to just hang with the baby,” Nick told me on the phone today. Get well soon, and congratulations again!

Last week in Racerhead, we ran a photo of Ron Lechien with a beautiful Kawasaki KX500 that had been restored for the Vet MX des Nations in September—or so we thought! Turns out the image was shot by Dirt Rider Senior Editor Adam Booth, and the 500 that Lechien is posing with is actually a project bike built for the September issue of Dirt Rider.

“The machine was well-used and fairly neglected when we started, but by the end of the build the '96 Kawi was extremely similar to the KX500 that Lechien used to beat the world at MXdN in 1988,” Dirt Rider's Chris Denison told us. “Ronnie hadn't been on a 500 in a while, but he was definitely grinning when he came off the track and he absolutely still rips on a two-stroke!” Readers can learn more over at www.dirtrider.com, or they can check the newsstand now for the full feature in September's Dirt Rider.

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Look for Dogger and that beautifully restored Kawasaki KX500 in the new issue of Dirt Rider.

Finally, I was not at Washougal last week, but I was glad to see MotoConcepts’ Mike Alessi get his first moto win in more than two years. It was also good to see the rock-solid Ryan Dungey work for it, and he certainly put on a charge in both motos on his way to the overall. Since I have nothing to cover on Washougal—well, nothing except for Chad DeRosa's amazing Washougal Remastered video for Racer X Films—I will turn it over to the rest of the gang here, starting with Steve Matthes:

Nice to have another two-week break in the Lucas Oil Motocross Championships to take another breath and relax a bit ... unless you’re one of the huge amount of industry people who are off to Loretta Lynn’s Amateur National Championships, which means you’re still wide open—maybe even sixth gear.

I haven’t been to Loretta’s since 1998, when I worked Honda Support at the race. I was working for FMF Honda and Danny Smith but he got hurt and I got sent to Loretta Lynn's. The cool thing about that trip was Honda gave me an old box van to drive out there and it was one of Skip Norfolk’s old vans (you know, Jeremy McGrath’s old mechanic). Anyways, buried in a cabinet was a binder with all these drawings of parts that Skip wanted made, notes from different races, things that broke on the bike, or whatever. It was a gold mine of coolness!

Anyways, I’m not going to Tennessee; I’ll be manning the ship from here in Las Vegas. As we know the silly season is moving forward with the announcement that Dean Wilson has inked a deal with Jeff Ward Racing for 2013 with an as-yet-unnamed title sponsor (I’m hearing it’s a casino) on a Kawasaki with factory help. One rider who’s still out there is defending supercross champion Ryan Villopoto, and ears were perked up when Chad Reed made a comment that he’s still looking to get Ryan on his team for next year. I expected this thing to be done a long time ago, to be honest. Why wouldn’t RV go back to Monster Energy Kawasaki, after all? He’s been with them forever, the bike is good, and when you look around, who could afford him? JGR Yamaha maybe, but Villopoto’s not wanting to have anything to do with the controversial YZ450F. Honda? Nope, they have their team set. KTM has Ryan Dungey, and Suzuki, well, they have James Stewart.

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The RV rumors are starting to heat up.
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The market for Villopoto is, just generally looking at it, not very heavy—especially for a rider who’s probably commanding $2 million a year just from an OEM. But here’s the thing: Why isn’t it done? Isn’t this a slam-dunk for everyone involved? You would think so, right?

My sources tell me that one of the hold-ups is that Monster Energy’s deal with factory Kawasaki is up at the end of next year. Kawasaki offered a year to Ryan but clearly Ryan would want a multi-year deal and certainly deserves that. That’s the hold-up right now, and it seems RV’s agent, Bobby Nichols, has taken the chance to shop the six-time AMA national and supercross champion around.

And Reed is there, indeed, talking to RV. One would think that Monster is going to go where Villopoto goes, so to think that Reed could return to being a Monster Energy athlete if he gets the deal done isn’t that big of a stretch.

Also in the mix is the Larry Brooks/Jeremy McGrath team, which is keeping Andrew Short next year and has made an offer to Villopoto. Manager Brooks told me two weeks ago that he was out of the deal—he couldn’t make it work. But things have changed and he’s back in, I'm told. And certainly Larry (along with title sponsor Chaparral Motorsports) has experience dealing with the top dogs in the sport.

One source told me he’s going back to Kawasaki or he’s going to L&Mc but I also heard that Reed’s agents are pushing hard and pitching Monster all sorts of cross-promotions with the powerful WMG Agency. Sounds like the energy drinks are going to be deciding who goes where with their money.

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KTM is on display down at the Ranch.
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The longer this thing goes on, the less chance RV has of going back to Kawasaki, in my opinion. I’m betting he stays green, but there are some real talks going on behind the scenes. Imagine Ryan on a factory Honda. That would look pretty weird. So would Villopoto and Reed going back to the truck to study video together—but no weirder than Ricky Carmichael going to Honda in 2002!

With all this going on, Villopoto kick-started his Kawasaki KX450F yesterday in Florida and had his first ride back since injuring his knee at the Seattle SX. That’s 96 days since he injured his knee and got a new ACL put in.

Hey, are you into the Primm Museum, the vault of motocross awesomeness? Well check out GP’s Classic Steel over on Pulpmx, where Tony Blazier profiles a bike a week from the museum that’s no longer around.

Look for Phil Nicoletti, who wasn’t at Washougal, will return for the final four races on a 450. All season long, Nicoletti has had a hell of a time trying to keep his bike working and himself on two wheels. There have been flashes of brilliance here and there and some great results but also a lot of problems. Will he be on a 450 on the Eleven10 Mods team? My source says “I don’t know.”

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Justin Barcia graces the cover of this week's Cycle News after a solid win at the Washougal National.

Spoke with Langston/Whitt Racing’s Les Smith at Washougal about his season. Les has had some good rides here and there but has also been plagued with clutch problems on his Ryan Dungey race-replica KTM 450 SX-F. In talking to Les, it seems that the KTM uses one giant diaphragm clutch spring and stock—it’s not up to the task for Smith, a top rider. KTM factory guys have been helping out as much as they can but there’s only four of the “race” springs in the world: two for Dungey’s motors on the truck and two in Florida for his practice bikes. Just another reason why you have to admire Roger DeCoster and his KTM crew for not having any issues with the new bike all season long. In talking to Smith, you begin to realize just how great of a job they’ve been doing.

Lots of fun this week on the Pulpmx Show, where we reunited three members of the epically awesome Great Western Bank Team in-studio for our special 100th show. Buddy Antunez and Dave Castillo drove up from LA and Denny Stephenson flew in from Omaha. And “Factory” Phil Lawrence couldn’t make but was on the line for a good portion of the show. The team was profiled in Racer X a few years ago, and it’s a little unusual for that to happen, but the guys just captured '90s supercross with everything they did. Myself and co-host Kenny Watson had a blast (Watson has wrenched for three of the guys at different points here and there). Thanks to those guys for coming out.

And now over to Ping:

I got introduced to the 2013 Kawasaki KXF450 this week. The guys in green brought out a new machine for us to ride at Pala Raceway. We invited our friend, Team Green star Thomas Covington, to help shake it down. Matt Francis was there to capture the action on video and you can check out his awesome work right here. Thomas has been hard at work preparing for Loretta Lynn's, and he has been riding a 2012 450 during the week to prepare. That gave him some great perspective on the difference between that bike and the new model.

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The 2013 Kawasaki KXF450.
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There are some key changes to the new green monster, including a redesigned piston, revised intake cam, and new mapping that make a big difference when you twist the throttle. There are some chassis changes as well including additional gussets on the swingarm to increase rigidity and rear wheel traction. Obviously the KYB air fork is a major addition. There is also a new front fender and number plate and several other cosmetic improvements.

For me, the fork and the engine were the two things that grabbed my attention. The fork works great and the ease of adjustability, coupled with the weight saving over the spring model, make it a definite improvement. I added two pounds of air from the standard setting, softened compression two clicks front and rear and also opened up the high-speed compression adjuster on the shock a half of a turn. Once I got it set up right for me all that was left was to twist the throttle. And, man, is that fun. I’ll go on record right now saying that the 2013 Kawasaki 450 has the strongest engine of any other stock 450 I’ve ever ridden. It is a beast. The engine upgrades, which were direct descendants from Ryan Villopoto’s race machine last year, focused on improving power from way down low to mid-range and they do exactly that. If any of the Kawasaki personnel involved in developing that engine are reading, well done.

Suzuki is introducing their new machines to the media next week and Honda and Yamaha should do the same sometime in August. Stay tuned for those updates and the ensuing shootouts later this summer.

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Stay tuned to Racer X Online next week for coverage from Loretta's.
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Here's Aaron Hansel:

In case you haven’t noticed, the WMX is currently in the midst of one the most exciting seasons in the history of the class. Jessica Patterson continues to fight through injuries including a dislocated shoulder suffered at Hangtown and a surgically repaired broken hand, and Ashley Fiolek has heroically fought her way back into championship contention despite missing High Point with a concussion. It’s great stuff, folks, and at Washougal the drama was ratcheted up a notch when Jessica Patterson lost a bunch of valuable points when stalled her bike while leading the second moto.

Patterson is obviously still very fast, but after watching her ride tentatively in practice and opt not to launch the triple like the other girls, it was evident that her hand was affecting her performance out there. It’s definitely a bummer for her, but it sure has helped make things much more interesting in the WMX. Right now, Patterson still holds the red plate, but she’s only two points ahead of Tarah Gieger and only 11 up on Fiolek, who is on a four-moto win streak.

We’ve been waiting for this kind of season in the WMX for a while, and now we have it. With just four motos left, Patterson, Gieger, and Fiolek are so close that accurate predictions aren’t possible. Six-time champ Patterson still holds the lead and definitely knows how to win championships, but she’s injured and Gieger is just a moto win out of the points lead. If Fiolek runs the table at the remaining rounds, she wins the championship! I’m definitely going to be following this story when the series resumes at Southwick, and you should too. If you’re lucky enough to be in attendance, make sure to keep an eye on the action out there. Patterson and Gieger have banged bars a few times this year, and with the championship coming down to the wire, don’t be surprised if they do it again in the sand.

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With only two races left, the WMX Championship is coming down to the wire.
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Speaking of attending live races, I want to share a little secret about Washougal’s best place to watch the start of a race. At the base of Horsepower Hill, which is a couple turns after the gate, there is a jump. If you stand just on the other side of it, it blocks the view of the pack as it thunders down the stretch. I know what you’re thinking, why would you want to black your view? Just stay with me here. As you stand there, your anticipation builds as you hear the screaming engines get closer. Then, mere feet away, they just explode into sight over the jump. The combination of forty riders bursting into view, the sound hitting you in the chest and the wind they create as they pass, triggers an almost visceral reaction in even the most seasoned of race watchers. I always make sure to watch the beginning of at least one moto there, and it’s never let me down. Check it out if you’re ever at Washougal.

Lastly, be sure to check out the Racer X Vault if you haven’t yet. It’s the ultimate source for results from motocross and supercross that goes all the way back to the beginnings of our sport. For those of you that have had some trouble viewing the site in the past, the tech department has made a few changes, so head on back to The Vault and have a peak. If you run into any errors, be sure to send an email over to, [email protected]. We may not have a chance to respond to you, but know that making sure that The Vault is the most comprehensive, accurate and reliable listing of race results is very important to us, and we read and investigate every single email that we receive.

Thanks, Hansel...

Okay, speaking of The Vault, check out this photo the guys back at the office unearthed. This is from twenty years ago, 1992, the year Deegan got third in 250/Open Expert but was DQ'd in the 125 A Stock class for having a modified bike. I was in that A class with Deegan, and when I went back and looked at the Loretta Lynn Vault I somehow went 17-13-2 for ninth overall. I remember working (and drinking) most of the week, racing as an afterthought. But my Dad gave me a good, cold stare after I barely made it to the finish in the second moto. So I focused really, really hard on that last moto, got lucky on the start with a holeshot, and just held on for my best moto ever there... And it was twenty years ago! Ouch.

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The Metal Mulisha’s Brian Deegan and DC hanging out a race together at Loretta Lynn Ranch way, way back in the day!

And our friend Billy Disney (no relation) sent along this newspaper article he got published in the Stillwater News Press concerning local product Justin Bogle's return to racing.

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Check out what the Renthal boys found in their archives...believed to be the very first Renthal ad! It apparently came from Motorcycle News in the UK and it was published in 1969. It's older than Adam Duckworth!

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Motocross is set to embark on Uganda, the former war torn East African nation, for next month’s FIM Africa motocross championship. Check out the full report here.

Bermuda, the beautiful island located in the Northern Atlantic, held another round of the Bermuda Motocross Racing Championship last week. Click here to read the full report.

Check out this footage of Ryan Villopoto throwing the first pitch at Angel Stadium last Sunday in Anaheim, with a little help from Miss Supercross, Diana Dahlgren.

We would like to wish Racer X's own Aaron Hansel a Happy 31st Birthday!

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Racer X Publisher Scott Wallenberg weighed in on the happenings in Boise, Idaho. First off he had an experience of a lifetime with the help of Moto Tech's Loyal Gibbons and Husqvarna USA by taking an off-road adventure ride with AMA Hall of famer Broc Glover and Grammy Award-winning musician Lyle Lovett. It was a 97-mile trek that culminated in the last hour riding back in total darkness! Lyle grew up racing MX on Husqvarnas in Texas and still loves to ride when he can. His skills in the dark earned him the title “Nightrider.” More fun ensued when Scott and Lyle grabbed a couple of guitars and did a little jam for Broc's video camera.

Also local Idaho Pro MX racer Cole Siebler is promoting the Idaho Supercross in Boise on August 3-4-5 in the Century Link Arena. For details go to www.idahosupercross.com.

Lastly, our 2nd Annual Boise Racer X fan party will take place on Wednesday, August 15 at the famous Knitting Factory concert club in downtown Boise, in conjunction with the annual WPS Convention. Admission is free and there will be a special screening of Belgian TV footage from the 1981 Motocross des Nations in Lommel, supplied by MX Files video guru Todd Huffman. This is the event where Team USA shocked the world, and USA Team member Chuck Sun will be in attendance to describe the action from his point of view. The evening ends with a live concert from the Blues Addicts. We hope those in the area can make it.

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Finally, who's going to be on Team USA? Your guess is as good as ours! But here's what our crack-staff of bench racers came up with.

That's it! There's bound to be something to do out on the infield. Thanks for stopping by and reading Racerhead. See you at the races!

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localexpert wrote: 6:54pm July 27, 2012

Kawasaki would have to be insane not to resign RV1 to a multi year deal, didn't they make that mistake with RC4?? and look what ended up happening afterwards, hindsight!!

Anyways enough of my $.02, that first pitch by RV was pretty good.

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codjh9 wrote: 8:01pm July 27, 2012

Good that the Stillwater paper did an article on Bogle, but didn't you notice it says 'Motorcross', which is like fingers on a chalkboard to me... urgggh! I've seen it so often from people who don't know the sport.

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Please don't hate us. wrote: 8:09pm July 27, 2012

I saw Marissa Markelon riding this week and if she races 338 Nat she might mix it up a little.

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Chowderhead wrote: 8:27pm July 27, 2012

Davey Coombs hegemony. It is a lot like the United States Dollar hegemony. You get everyone using your system, and soon, you rule the entire industry, with no avenue for competition. It is like modern day monopoly game, but a monopoly game where you knock the other player's pieces off the board.

Weeehaaaaw... Loretta Lynns! Let's all get heat stroke.

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tonewall wrote: 8:58pm July 27, 2012

@chowderhead.....don't play the game. Take your toys...go home.

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persona wrote: 8:58pm July 27, 2012

Kawi always lets their top athletes go, it seems to be apart of their M.O. And now that their contract is up with Monster soon RV is starting to look at Honda teams, which is awesome. I hope we see RV on a Honda in '13.

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CZmark wrote: 9:22pm July 27, 2012

So let the bidding wars begin for RV. With only one more year with Monster, will we see Kawi go the that same road as with Suzuki and Yamaha?

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fred wrote: 10:01pm July 27, 2012

That picture of Degan and DC looks more like Bevis and Butthead .With Butthead twisting one up and about to put the finishing lick on a lefthanded cig.

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Kilroy wrote: 10:12pm July 27, 2012

The KTM clutch spring problem is strange. Only 4 race springs in the world?

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socalxr wrote: 10:27pm July 27, 2012

I got a text today saying RV already signed.

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CZrider wrote: 10:34pm July 27, 2012

I definitely would not buy a KTM if that were the case. I think of lot of these comments are "put out there" to get everyone fired up . With none of it being true in the first place. Like the famous quote " You can't believe everything your read on the internet" by Abraham Lincoln . How true.

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Mr-Mx wrote: 10:41pm July 27, 2012

@ fred Fred great call !!! I wrote a little on those lines back on this post. Other poster was thinking I was some prevert wearing deegan jams ..

9lives-Mr-Mx wrote: 10:52pm July 25, 2012

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Mr-Mx wrote: 10:46pm July 27, 2012

It would be interesting if Tomac put the wood to everyone ........He does have some wins....But just doesnt have that flash of personality that everyone is looking for..................Just soild as all.........I guess that doesnt fly for the average person who may just enjoy good fast riding & hard work .......... You have to have a tornado swirling around your head like some.......

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MX Bob wrote: 10:49pm July 27, 2012

How the once-mighty Ponca has fallen. It used be most of the top amateurs would race there and head up to Tennessee for LL the following week. LL was always a bit more prestigious, but now it's like Red Bud vs Chicken Licks raceway.

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MX Bob wrote: 10:51pm July 27, 2012

If Cycle News is no longer a printed magazine, does it still have a cover?

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tonewall wrote: 11:27pm July 27, 2012

Mr Mx . Mr 9lives , mr llawenotregin (not funny even backwards.....) and whatever name you use this week......great profile pics.....

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RacerMX264 wrote: 12:13am July 28, 2012

@MX Bob - I agree. Raced at Ponca City in the early 90's when it was a prestigious event. The track was excellent, the event was huge and all the top guys were there. It's been going down hill though for the past 10 years. Disappointing to see...

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Mr-Mx wrote: 12:32am July 28, 2012

Congrats to you MC and Kim !!

http://instagram.com/p/NnHG6aD4vJ/

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ogmx101 wrote: 4:33am July 28, 2012

This has nothing to do with racerhead just want people to remember when we lost 3 young up and coming riiders.On August 1st 1982 in Ponca City Ok Bruce Bunch 16,Rick Hemme 16,and Kyle Flemming 15 died when the rent a car they were in hit a train right by the track.They were coming back from the hotel and going to the trophy presentation.The were all teamates on the factory Suzuki backed R&D team.Larry Brooks was actually in the car before it left the track to go to the hotel but his father made him get out.Bruce was my best friend so i know more about him.That year Bruce was the World Mini Grand Prix Champion winning the 80 expert stock and modified classes.I believe he got second in the 105 class.He was the Golden State Series Champion.About five years ago MXA did article called The next big thing naming riders from the 70s up.MXA named Bruce as the Next Big Thing.Im still close to his parents Ralph and Anne and about 10 years ago they gave me Bruces 1982 Toyota 4x4 .I still drive it,and I havent changed it.I just dont want them to be forgotten.Chris Taylor

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tonewall wrote: 1:35pm July 28, 2012

@ormx101...a heartfelt tribute to your friend. With friends like you they will NOT be forgotten....@chosen who but you WOULDN"T want to line up with the GOAT...maybe learn something when he laps ya'......Amateurs at LL are like unpaid college football players ...un huh sure they are.....

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rjstreets wrote: 2:00pm July 28, 2012

@ogmx101, thanks for the backround on the loss of your friend. I remember the MXA article and didn't know that Brooks was suppose to be in the car.

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number155 wrote: 3:43pm July 28, 2012

@ tonewall

Your a piece of shit

@ TheChosen1 good call

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tonewall wrote: 4:36pm July 28, 2012

@number155(probably mx mx's name for the day.) chokeing1....... i'm crushed. coming from you two numbnuts thats a compliment.......what you two don't like RC havin a little fun...

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carlsbad wrote: 5:25pm July 28, 2012

Looks like it's Tonewall's day in the barrel.

Should've went with my policy. If you don't have anything nice to say, talk about Stewart......haha. just kidding.

As for Villopoto, I don't see him making the switch but, stranger things have happened........if he did, BillC would be on suicide watch.

If Monster was going to bail on MX / SX, Red Bull would get the market share by default so, I don't see it happening...........OR.......does this mean Monster is going to go "all in" on a PC 450 team?????? How would that conversation go with Mitch Payton & Kawasaki afterwards????????? Very interesting.........

IF all the Factories gave up their teams, who would take over? As things sit now, Kawi has PC, Yamaha has JGR, Suzuki has Yosh, Honda has who???

I wonder how many Pro class championships passed away in that car back in '82? I feel terrible for their parents, nobody should outlive their kids. That is definitely one of those situations where words cannot describe. Godspeed, Bruce, Rick & Kyle.

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Red54m wrote: 6:07pm July 28, 2012

IMO, Doesn't matter what bike RV rides he will be next years champion(s). SX should be a bit easier. MX will be a fight with the Dunge until the end!

Kawi would be nuts not to ink the guy for a multi year. Take a lesson from RV going from Red to Yellow, Honda was crippled there for awhile. Titles went with RC from Red to Yellow and they haven't had one on a big bike since.

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tonewall wrote: 6:24pm July 28, 2012

@carlsbad lol..yes i feel so bad.!...sorry it will take more than Chosen1's and friend's little blast to make me feel even a little more than amused...rave on.... Getting chastized by some idiots who can't have a point of view without getting pissed...sorry sprouts ...it doesn't work on me...I don't care enough about any of the infantile dumbas*es on hear to sweat it... say what you like little boys...ain't me crying.....try arguing a point with out going to tears little ones. To be really honest its almost impossible on here now say anything without someone gettin all pissed off or stalking you for your home address or phone (mr mx 9/livesor whatever name he's using...yeah he REALLY will!!!)...i can live with or without it and could give a flyin shit if anyone of the internet tuff guys or pretend racers or stalking rasicts like it or not....if anyone doesn't like what I write do like I do to Chosen1's stuff 99% of the time and just skip over it.

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Red54m wrote: 6:43pm July 28, 2012

Sorry, that was RC going Red to Yellow NOT RV!

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FenderFreddy wrote: 7:01pm July 28, 2012

Stew is going to return and own the 450 class. Look for some epic success ....


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CZmark wrote: 9:02pm July 28, 2012

@carlsbad- how about Monster not leaving the racing but just changing brands. Also from a buisness point of view, it looks like the teams are being ran by the big money sponors and not the factories anymore. So what about the idea of Reed putting in the bid for Monster and 22 Motosports. This would be Reed building his finacial future, also hiring RV.

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kx408 wrote: 9:05pm July 28, 2012

Man, I had most of those racer x rider stickers they show at the end, plus some they don't have there. Got a bunch autographed over the years too. Sold them on ebay years ago though....along with my whole team ktm jersey collection from when it was ping and the crew.

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carlsbad wrote: 9:59pm July 28, 2012

tonewall & TheChosen1, I've been guilty of letting comments on here getting to me but, at the end of the day, we're all in the same family and as most folks know, nobody fights harder than family. We all enjoy us some motorbikes on this forum and that makes us a breed apart. That said, we're probably more alike than different if you really got down to the nuts & bolts. I'd rather hang out with moto-minded people that I have differing opinions with than someone who knows nothing of GOAT, Magoo, Showtime and the rest of the gang.

@ czmark, the factories have been trying for years to hand the keys over to outside sponsors, a lot like NASCAR. I find it ridiculous that Monster would look to leave Kawasaki being as the green is such an easy match and, their record together isn't what I would call unsuccessful. Seeing PC / Monster 250F's and Honda / Monster 450's would be kind of odd too.

I think Reed is a smart businessman and if he could pull it off, it would work for all parties concerned. You said "building his financial future". He might be shaping the future of Motocross teams as we know them, as well.

I do think we're headed for a power struggle between 22 M-sports & L&Mc; for Factory Honda's favors. That should be interesting.

After having JGR dip their toes into moto, I thought it would be just a matter of time before we saw involvement from the other NASCAR teams. Their Fab and R&D capability would most likely mean a new era of "Works" bikes, and I for one wouldn't mind seeing a Roush / Honda team roll up to the gate. Getting the teams out of California would be a sticking point though, I would imagine.

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CZmark wrote: 10:11pm July 28, 2012

@carlsbad- you have some good thoughts there. Roush/Honda and a new era of "Works Bikes", very possible in the future.

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tonewall wrote: 1:09am July 29, 2012

@chosen1...I think your right...lets go back and look at my 'horrible 'comment that i guess triggered this drama of the day...If that comment REALLY bothers you that much I sincerely apologize ...i thought you had a bit thicker skin........but also check the comments that followed.....................now give it a rest ....i promise i'll sleep just fine.....its a fricken goofy a*s fan site it ain't the downfall of western civilization..................now get off my lawn.........

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VooDoo wrote: 2:00am July 29, 2012

@tonewall

It is difficult to decide who posted the more accurate reply to one of life's most pressing questions. Yes, it seems that many of us wonder: What is RacerX?

But is it you or Chowderhead who answered the question with a higher degree of accuracy?

You appear to think RacerX is a "fricken goofy [a^s] fan site" while Chowderhead seemed to call RacerX a "Davey Coombs hegemony" in his reply to RacerX #30.

Tough call!!

LMAO!!!!

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BD25 wrote: 8:31am July 29, 2012

In reading the article on Bogle, the reporter spelled it right. I think who ever wrote the caption and title must have used spell check...still nice to see a dirt bike on the front page of main stream sports..especially from a Big 12 football city!!!

The Ponca City Mini National has lost some of it's allure over the years. With the coming of age of LL and so many other amateur races on the schedule, it has suffered. This year, it has been taken over by RPM productions, where in the past it was a NMA event, which left Ponca City and took its event to Oklahoma Motosprots Complex in Norman OK..

Ponca is now an AMA event and RPM came in updated the track by adding a twelve pack of whoops, a couple of large table tops and a dragon back, all nice additions. I don't know the official numbers, but judging from the campers, I would guess it was 2/3's full. I was unable to make it down to OMC park to see how many showed up there, but I am sure it hurt Ponca's numbers, since they were held simultaneously..Hopefully RPM will get Ponca closer to where it once was, it will never over take LL prestige wise, but it is still a grand event in a nice little city...

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jeramey wrote: 9:36am July 29, 2012

RC is not running his factory bike, before he started this loretta lynns thing his bike looked identical to stewart's and metcalfe's all yoshimura/suzuki. Now if you look at his bike everything is pro circuit same stuff you and I could buy if we have the $$ im pretty sure there are rules about not being able to run the unobtainable parts as that would not be fair

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jeramey wrote: 11:03am July 29, 2012

heres an easier look at it : http://instagram.com/p/Ls3GJ_uRIW/

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bd200 wrote: 11:04am July 29, 2012

I have to comment on here about the LL's bikes, since the babies on here anre all crying and arguing still.. First off--RC's bike IS NOT a factory bike, at all.. All his parts can be bought.. And about the kids who's 80 cc's bikes "cost as much as a house"according to chosen.. What is your answer to it?? Tell the kid he cant race because his parents spent too much money on his bike?? If my kid raced at that level, and I coulkd afford it, I would put him on the best bike I could, just like every other paernt. You cant punish the kid racing for having parents with money, or sponsers with deep pockets. If the kids sponsers are paying the bill, then the kid earned that great ride. You cant punish the rider for it..

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bd200 wrote: 1:32pm July 29, 2012

I agree that big money is really getting involved in a lot of "amatuer" sports. But I dont know what a solution could be. A stock cless is still stock, the things that can be changed are pretty much common knowledge and every kids parents or mechanic knows those tricks or they would never get that far anyway.. And if a kid is fast enough, he will get noticed, stock bike or not. RC would have beaten those guys as a kid on a stock bike, if thats all he had. the fancy parts can only make a kid fast if he is already fast anyway..It wont help a slow rider. But you cant put a price cap on anything, because they would loophole around it anyway.

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tonewall wrote: 2:35pm July 29, 2012

@jeramy...thanks for clearing the works bike thing up....its nice to get the actual facts ......and as for big money and kids NO ONE EVER...EVER said it was a cheap sport...there are soccer balls for that. I worked for every bike I ever bought till I was good enough to have people offer me rides...that method still works today if you want it bad enough...and as for LL's ...there are plenty of OTHER races to attend if the flame is to hot.....after building a TON of minis (some for top ten national riders now) I can attest a fast kid will go fast on anybike good or bad ...a slow kid will not regardless of $$$$$. The motorhome , hot mom and fleet of bikes don't mean squat once the gate drops till your in the top two or three mod class all the time....then cubic dollars does seem to enter the game....@bd obviously i agree.

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carlsbad wrote: 2:58pm July 29, 2012

Balancing & blueprinting and careful attention to assembly used to be worth a lot. I've seen carefully built stockers beat full "shop bikes" (pro circuit, Varners, etc) so, it is possible but, I agree that the "arms race" of continually spending money to keep up with the joneses is ridiculous.

There was a famous engine builder (of SCCA / IMSA engines) that made obscene amounts of money for his work that amounted to blueprinting and loosening the bottom end bearing tolerances for increased rev. We all knew he wasn't doing anything that couldn't be duplicated by a "DIY'er" with access to some simple machining equipment but, people still lined up to have this guy deposit their checks. Point being, people with money are gonna spend it and he was in the right direction of this phenomenon.

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carlsbad wrote: 3:11pm July 29, 2012

I remember the old days in So. Cal were rife with cheating and "mini dads" making wild claims and in general, being as out of control as some tabloid hollywood type. I don't know who does the referee'ing for LL's but now that we have F.I. & the ignitions to support it, it can't be any easier.

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carlsbad wrote: 3:12pm July 29, 2012

I meant to say scrutineering, not refereeing.

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scrubthismofo wrote: 3:44pm July 29, 2012

@tonewall this is your worst day dream.......No I' m not who you keep calling the stalkers on here. Mr Mx, scrub this, sloan,real prugue, lawenotregin and whoe ever 9 lives , choosen1 or any other name you can muster up........ I work around he corner from your shop...........I am a racist because I'm black and dont like white trash like you. So dont call anyone you think you might know to be me............You dont have a clue........You be little a lot of people on here,and I'm sick of your opinions!!!!!!! just stick to Moto and not the name calling,you never know who will take your hap hazzrd threats seriously. I'm not threatning you just warning you against having you deleted from the site,,,,,so be cool with people from this point on. Everyone has an off day.............We are all the same.............so chill out.........Peace to all.............. Have a great day !

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jeramey wrote: 5:40pm July 29, 2012

when they say its 85% rider 15% bike does this only apply at pro level?

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tonewall wrote: 5:48pm July 29, 2012

@scrubthismofo WTF? Wow.....My worst day dream...lol...REALLY..you have NO idea ......and I don't remember calling YOU anything.....since you seem to know me and where i'm at which is kinda odd , and we'll work it out ..peacefully.....PLEASE have me deleted, I'm starting to think thats maybe a INCREDIBLY GREAT idea.....@chosen1 accepted and genuinely return the sentiment...i'm realizing people are taking this A L O T.....A L O T.... more seriously than I and I don't want to pull the pistol grip pump because of saying someone used a wrong tire choice thats a JOKE PEOPLE.......sorry if i've offended so many...I normally don't go off until the racism come out.......I will try to keep my posts to a kinder and gentler moto only sort....

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tonewall wrote: 5:52pm July 29, 2012

meant to say come by...

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FenderFreddy wrote: 5:55pm July 29, 2012

@voodoo
totally funny
but probably way over most heads

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CZmark wrote: 7:23pm July 29, 2012

@jeramey- cool video links! The guy is just looking to have fun.

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VISTAJIM wrote: 1:51am July 30, 2012

They should just add a Post-Pro class to LL, where anyone who has ever held an AMA or FIM pro license is only eligible for that class.That would end all the controversy.And the fences would be lined for that one.

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mgwest949 wrote: 2:11pm July 30, 2012

Hey @codjh9, I totally agree with you that hearing motocross mispronounced as motoRcross is like fingers on a chalkboard. The really distressing thing though is hearing top riders say it. I am amazed at how many A class riders seem to have given up on correcting people on the proper pronunciation and seem to have adopted an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude. Seriously, it's "MOTOCROSS", not motoRcross!

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