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Friday, June 22, 2012 | 3:55 PM

Finally, a chance to relax. After five straight weekends of racing, the 2012 Lucas Oil Motocross Championship, sanctioned by AMA Pro Racing(hi CZ), gets a couple weekends off. The riders and teams have been grinding through the schedule, from California to Texas, then Colorado, Pennsylvania, and Maryland, and now they get to regroup. We're on a mini-vacation too, but Racerhead never really stops.

So far, I believe the series is going really well, albeit with some letdowns and problems. The racing in the 250 Class has been downright superb, with U.S. kids Blake Baggett, Justin Barcia, and Eli Tomac battling it out every moto with the boys from Europe, newcomer Red Bull KTM's Ken Roczen and hold over Marvin Musquin. The 450 Class, on the other hand, is where we had a setback. A big one. James Stewart's crash at Thunder Valley, following the unwise decision of a professional photographer to cross the track on the backside of a very fast downhill tabletop, really let the air out of the tires in that class. Stewart had won the first four motos over Ryan Dungey, but then Ryan has won everything since. The Yoshimura Suzuki-backed Stewart did try to gut out a finish at High Point, but his throttle wrist kept locking up, and he wisely called it a day after the first moto.

So when will James be back? I really, truly hope it’s for RedBud, the biggest race on the entire American Motocross calendar, but I would not be surprised if he decided to wait longer. In the meantime, Dungey is riding with great confidence and speed, and he's literally gotten better in every single moto on that Red Bull KTM. I know things would be different if James were out there—let alone Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed and Trey Canard—but right now Dungey is riding better than I've ever seen him on a 450, and that's saying something.

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Ryan Dungey holds a commanding lead in the 450 Class after five rounds.
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Mike Alessi has always been a pleasant surprise. We all know #800 can ride, and he remains the best starter I have ever seen, at every level, but he's not on factory equipment and that's a must on tracks as rough and at a pace as fast as what you have in the outdoor nationals right now. But the MotoConcepts rider never gives up, and he's put in two strong finishes in the last two weeks. If he could only get some more backing, or if Dungey actually got a bad start himself, Alessi could pull off a true privateer win.

I was also stoked for Broc Tickle at Budds Creek. The Monster Energy/Pro Circuit Kawasaki rider put in the two best motos of his career to come home second overall. He was also the subject of Austin White's Racer X Films' feature from Budds Creek. If you missed it, check it out right here.

Tickle will also have his former teammate on Pro Circuit Tyla Rattray back for competition at RedBud. Tyla was spotted at Glen Helen yesterday by our own Simon Cudby, and he's trying to get back up to speed after his injury from the opening round when he cracked a bone in his hand at his debut 450 National at Hangtown. Rattray will be in the Monster Energy Kawasaki truck alongside full-timer Jake Weimer (who I have heard signed an extension with the team).

Here Simon's film from Thursday practice, which also includes Musquin, Weimer, Jake Canada, Vince Friese, Tommy Weeck and more.

And while you're getting your moto video fix, Austin White also knocked out our Remastered piece on Budds Creek—his first film for Racer X—and it was downright impressive.

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Trying to slow down Ryan Dungey has been a tough task thus far for Mike Alessi.
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The time to select Team USA for what will be a try at eight straight Motocross of Nations wins is drawing closer. It was on a few people's minds in Belgium last weekend, where sidelined two-time AMA Supercross and four-time AMA Motocross #1 Ryan Villopoto was vacationing at the Bastogne GP. When he was asked about his injury and whether or not he might be racing again anytime soon—and specifically on September 30 at Lommel, Belgium, site of the MXoN—RV told our contributor Adam Wheeler: “I’ve heard that they want me to race the Nations but as of right now I haven’t started riding yet and might be able to in the first week of August. So a couple more weeks. I don’t know how it would work but I assume I’ll have to race some U.S. Nationals to be in the running to go. We’ll see. It is very up in the air and there is no real plan.” You just know that has struck fear in the hearts of a few riders and journalists in Europe....

Christophe Pourcel is giving chase to Tony Cairoli in the FIM World Championships. He also introduced a new line of casual clothing this week called 377, which of course is his riding number. Here's a short video of some of the gear.

As for the future, he's already said he would like to return to America. The man certainly has the skills to succeed here in the 450 Class, especially in Monster Energy Supercross. But will he get another chance?

Cairoli, on the other hand, will probably never come to America full-time. Like Stefan Everts, he reigns supreme on the Grand Prix circuit, and he's got years of good riding ahead of him. Racer X contributor Adam Wheeler spoke to Tony after the GP of Bastogne last week about the possibilities of him one day taking up the challenge of a race here.

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Although Cairoli will probably never come to America full-time, it would be nice to see him at some select rounds.
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"The dates are really hard to make it happen," said the Red Bull KTM rider. "The championships finish at pretty much the same time and it’s a shame. It is risky trying it in the middle of our season. I’ve already spoken about it with KTM, and for them it’s no problem, but they also would love to win the World Championship again. I hope someday I can find the right race to be able to go, because I’d love to have a go at those tracks. I felt that today at Bastogne it was like a National because there were not many bumps and ruts but it was fast."

The man he would be chasing here, sidelined U.S. superstar Ryan Villopoto, took a working vacation to Belgium for the event for Monster Energy and Parts Unlimited Europe. He worked with the excellent Paul Malin on the MX-Life.tv webcasts and got the GP press room whipped into a little frenzy when he mentioned that he might like to go to Europe for a full season, maybe after three more years here in the States. But I wouldn't get a tattoo that said "RV-GP-16" just yet....

And then there's the persistent rumor that Villopoto is in talks with not only Monster Energy Kawasaki but also Honda for a new contract. I have not spoken to RV about this, but I do know that nobody is afraid of the knee injury he's out with right now—the teams learned that lesson when Ricky Carmichael went down in the fall of '03 with a knee injury, missed SX '04, and could not get the deal he wanted with Honda when he returned. So he signed with Suzuki for '05, even while preparing to ride the Honda CRF450R outdoors that summer. He then put on one of the all-time dominant displays of motorsports racing when he went 24-0 and practically led every single lap along the way. Then he went to Suzuki and gave them four major titles in four tries. In the wake of that recovery, Villopoto's stock didn't go down a dime when he tweaked his knee in Seattle.

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Don't buy stock in the "RV-GP-16" just yet....
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As for his "maybe I will race in Europe" comment about 2016, I am afraid I really don't see that happening. But it would be cool to trade RV for Tony Cairoli for a season, or Jeffrey Herlings for Blake Baggett, though Herlings will already be there by then.

Want to see more on RC's 2004 AMA Motocross masterpiece? Check out this link to The Vault, presented by Kawasaki.

And speaking of The Vault, there was once a very rough track in Michigan called Midland that hosted three 125 Nationals in the seventies, back when Red Bud was known for it's Trans-AMA races. You can find the results to all three races right here in the Vault.

Let’s start with Weege:

First, a shout-out to my guys (and gals) racing the Snowshoe round of the Can-Am Grand National Cross Country Series this weekend. The race takes place at a ski resort in West Virginia, and they start the race on the streets of the ski village. You can literally watch the race while sitting at Starbucks. It's awesome and a very much underrated challenge. Europe has Erzberg and all of those crazy extreme races, but this one is a much more accessible challenge. Plus, 4,200 feet of elevation makes for a cool summer getaway. You can rent a cabin for the family to hang out in while you race. If you think you're a bad dude on a dirt bike, you should try this race one year. It's seriously one of a kind.

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The picturesque view of the start of the Snowshoe GNCC, which is taking place this weekend.
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If you listened to our BTOSports.com Racer X podcast show this week with myself, Matthes, and Jason Thomas, you heard us joking about how just every rider and team believes they will be much better after the two-weekend break between Budds Creek and RedBud. Perhaps unrealistically so—a break is nice, some more testing and training time is nice, healing up from some nagging injuries is nice, but we've seen time and time again that the riders are who they are and end up where they end up. Improvement year-to-year is hard, let alone in two weeks. So we'll see if anything actually changes by RedBud.

Every Thursday, I do a guest spot on All-Action Sports Radio to give them the rundown on the latest on the supercross and motocross scene. It's good to do a show with a bit of an outsider's perspective. We often get so lost within our inner circle of folks that watch and follow every race, then dissect and bench race it all to death. You forget that some folks have some basic questions. There's nothing wrong with that. I watched every game of the NBA Finals, but that doesn't make me as knowledgeable at the NBA as I am motocross. I watch MotoGP and F1 races, but I don't know those sports are well as moto. But I am interested in them and do have some basic questions and ideas.

Anyway, this week the AASR guys brought up the proverbial "asterisk" question surrounding Ryan Dungey's 450 MX title drive. If you're following the races closely, you know by now that the asterisk deal is debunked. Dungey proved last year that he can run with anyone (it's not like he got blown away in 2011 SX and MX once Villopoto, Reed, and Stewart were back. If not for some bad luck that was out of his control, he could have defended his titles), and while Stewart did beat him in the first two races this year, again, Dungey proved he was on the same level, speed-wise. The AASR guys were wondering if Stewart could have completed the perfect season had he not hat that photographer problem at Colorado. Sure, the results say yes (he was undefeated at the time), but even Stewart knew the races were much, much closer with Dungey than they were in 2008. Another 24-0 wasn't going to happen. Yes, Dungey is cleaning up with his main competitors out, but even those main competitors know they'd merely be battling him if they were out there—they wouldn't be waxing Dungey every weekend by 30-some seconds.

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Will Stewart make his long-awaited return at RedBud?
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Better yet for Dungey, think of what he gains while they're out. Not only more win bonuses and points, but every week on the race track is a chance to improve, and Dungey takes that task quite seriously. If everyone else really improves in the two weeks between here and Red Bud, well, he'll improve, too. And he'll be even better at Millville. And even better in 2013 than he was in 2012. And that means it will just be even harder for everyone else to beat him when they do come back.

Now over to Matthes:

And finally, on the fifth week, MX Sports said we can rest. But not for me. I must have something wrong with me because I’m heading up to Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, for round four of the CMRC Nationals up in my motherland. I didn’t go to a national last year for a number of reasons (schedule, distaste for the politics up there) but I figured I should go check one out. The Edmonton track is also a newer one on the circuit and I haven’t ever been there, so why not?

Last time I was in Edmonton was 1989 for the Canadian amateur championships (the Loretta Lynn’s of Canada except it rotates tracks) where I went 7-7-7 in 80 Expert for, yep, seventh overall. I get in tomorrow afternoon and plan to go check out the West Edmonton Mall and most likely at some point grab some poutine.

As far as that series, it’s a Leading Edge Kawasaki runaway with Matt Goerke (450) and Teddy Maier (250) winning every one of the first six motos except for one, which was last weekend when Bobby Kiniry managed to beat Goerke. The defending champion Colton Facciotti moved to KTM for this year (when Blackfoot Yamaha folded) and was on Goerke’s level but then separated his shoulder in the third moto of the year and it’s been a struggle since. His teammate Dusty Klatt has also struggled to adapt to the KTM.

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Matt Goerke is off to a hot start in Canada.
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One thing to note is that both Klatt and Facciotti are on the old KTM 450 SX-Fs and not on the Dungey replica. I do believe that this is a bit of a factor in their performances but the folks at KTM Canada don’t agree with me. Imagine that.

Looking forward to seeing Tyler Villopoto, who’s racing up there this year and by all accounts doing quite well. He doesn’t have a lot of time on the 450 but he’s consistently in the top five (although the depth up there in Canada due to some injuries and the economy is not what it used to be) and showing some serious skill and fitness.

I helped out a bit in getting Tyler up there—Ryan asked me to put a word in with a couple of team managers, and RV couldn’t have undersold his brother any less. He mentioned just finishing the motos, then trying to get into the top ten and then going from there. He definitely shouldn’t be an agent once he hangs up his boots, because there was no “building the hype” with RV. And because of this, I undersold Tyler to Pat O’Connor of Leading Edge Kawi. Meanwhile, TV is solidly inside the top five most times and threatening to get on the box! Got to make Ryan, Tyler, pop Dan and LE Kawi manager O’Connor pretty pumped.

Did anyone hear Bobby Kiniry’s story of his missing gear bag for round one on the Pulpmx Show? His bag didn’t show up and the race was on Vancouver Island. Let’s just say it involves a sea plane, a fairy, Orlando and getting his eyes washed out. Crazy stuff, listen to last Mondays show for the whole story.

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Tyler Villopoto, younger brother of Ryan, has shined in Canada thus far.
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Now over to Aaron Hansel who has some news on the Star-Valli team:

If you were watching the Red Bull Budds Creek National on television, you probably saw the shot of Kyle Cunningham being helped off his bike in obvious pain after catching his boot in a rut and further damaging an already injured ankle. If you want the details, check out this story we ran earlier in the week. Cunningham talks about getting hurt at Budds Creek, as well as some of the other injuries that have held him back this year. If you already read the story, you know that thanks to a couple of tears in his ankle, Cunningham is on crutches, and might even be out for the season.

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With Kyle Cunningham suffering from an ankle injury, the Star-Valli team could be looking for a fill-in rider.
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It’s a bummer for Cunningham, who was looking forward to letting his previously injured ankle heal up during the break, and it leaves the Star-Valli Rockstar Yamaha team in the unfortunate position of searching for a fill-in rider. Right now the team is looking at a few guys, most notably Tommy Weeck, who was formerly with the MotoConcepts team, and privateer rider Austin Politelli. Both riders had mixed results in the Eastern Regional Supercross Lites series this year; Politelli’s best result was a ninth, while Weeck’s best finish was a seventh, and Politelli edged Weeck for sixteenth in the standings by a mere two points.

It sure seems like a tough call, and I’m glad I don’t have to make those kinds of decisions, but with Washougal not too far away, Weeck seems like a good choice. He flies on that track, and it’d be good to have totally comfortable on the bike when the series heads to Washington State. We’ll make sure to post an update when we find out more on this situation.

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Austin White was at Budds Creek to catch all the action from Broc Tickle's career day.
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Some random notes to end the week:

Some cool Instagram photos from Budds Creek, right here on the Allisports.com website.

Budds Creek offered up a very cool trophy—maybe the coolest of the year so far: guitars by Knaggs Guitars, donated by Jeff Lanahan. I mention this because every year MX Sports has a contest to see who comes up with the coolest trophies for their national, and last year's winner was Washougal, after Tavi Huffman pulled together a really cool neon sign award. The winner, voted on both the Racer X staff, gets a free full-page ad in the magazine for their local events.

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Knaggs Guitars hooked up with the Budds Creek winners with these sweet axes.
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Here's another look back at Budds Creek, this time on Facebook by Brad Whitworth, shooter for the Heroes & Legends of Motocross tour.

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Good to see that Roczen and Baggett can still share a smile, but later on, this championship will probably get much more tense...
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Want to catch a glimpse of one of Europe's next big things? There's a kid in Holland named Davy Pootjes who is hoping to follow in the footsteps of Red Bull KTM rider Jeffrey Herlings, and before them Marc DeReuver, Pedro Tragter, John Van den Berk, Davey Strijbos and more. He will be racing in the big International Youth Weekend in the Netherlands that's coming up. Thanks to Jean-Paul Maas for sending this very slick video! For more in the event, which takes place July 13-15, go here.

Check out this crazy shot of the "human race" they recently held at Washougal. Look for more and more of these to pop up around the sport....

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My buddy Jeff Cernic just added a real gem to his collection. Check out this old Kawasaki KX250! With the cool rear fender panels, it's an early eighties work of art. We have one of these in the lobby at Racer X, on loan from longtime Team Green tech Greg Quador. Good stuff!

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Jeff Cernic's latest work of art.... Somewhere Billy Liles must be smiling!

Cernic's bike is an '84, by the way. Can you name the members of Team Kawasaki 1984?

If you missed Ashley Fiolek on Conan the other night, you can catch it here. Fiolek comes on at roughly the 28:00 mark.

Score a win for the off-roaders of the California OHV Program who recently won a court victory to keep the popular state managed motorized park open in the S.F. Bay Area. Click here to read the entire article.

Sorry, I found this new FMX "No Mercy" team's plea to join their Facebook page and so on and so forth... So I clicked on it and...

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In more social media news, any motocrosser that travels to England this fall for possibly the Birmingham SX should be careful what they tweet. According to a report the Brits are not very fond of athletes or really anyone tweeting an advertisement-style message from or about their sponsors with directly labeling it to be an advertisement. It just got football star Wayne Rooney in trouble—the same Wayne Rooney who scored a header against Ukraine in Euro 2012—when he tweeted a message and added "#makeitcount," which is a new Nike ad campaign....

But I'm not really sure what the British would think of some of our boys' tweets anyway. Take the hilarious Darryn Durham, for instance. He tweeted "Miss Supercross is about to Polish my helmet! Don't miss a spot..."(@DarrynDurham)

Not sure if that's an ad for his helmet-polish sponsor or something for the supercross series itself....

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Ed Palanko sent us this cool RC car.

Dave Derringer snapped this photo of potential Flagman Hall of Fame candidate Kevin Windham working the track at the Del Mar Moto Derby... Looks like K-Dub has his summer cut going!

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K-Dub has a new job for the summer.
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You may have been checking out the new August issue of Racer X Illustrated and read the Appalachian Offroad MC Dealer Spotlight feature on page 185. If you tried giving them at call at the number we listed, you may not have gone too far. We made a mistake and printed the wrong phone number and website—the correct number is 304-932-0437, and website is www.ktm-parts.com.

Okay, that's it for the week—a very hot week in much of America! Stay hydrated, enjoy the off-weekend, and see you at Reeeeeedddddddd Buuuuuuuuuud! Thanks for reading Racerhead.

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smellywetdog wrote: 4:19pm June 22, 2012

I can’t believe DC blames the photographer for James’ crash – two weeks in a row in racerhead. If I were to go along with this, theoretically, if james crashed anywhere during that lap it would have been the photographer’s fault? The next corner? The jump after that? The following triple?
You can blame the photog, the banners, some random fan or a squirrel climbing a tree but with Dungey riding the back wheel of Stewart’s bike for three straight races it was inevitable that James was going down. I hate to see Dungey run away with this thing (30 seconds per moto makes for a boring race) but please don’t blame the photographer.

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McMoto wrote: 4:19pm June 22, 2012

Over 2 weeks to ride boys before next national Boys. Keep the Camelbacks full !!!

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McMoto wrote: 4:22pm June 22, 2012

Good read Davey, gonna be a HOT ReeeeeeddddddBbbuuudddddd !!!!!!

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mainevent71 wrote: 4:28pm June 22, 2012

Hmmm....a little fear of RV doing something different and leaving for the GPs? (That is how I read the repeated idea of saying he isn't likely to do it, he isn't likely to do it.)

Why not? Why shouldn't he enjoy motocross as a platform to explore the world, travel with his wife and enjoy different cultures. If is good for all the big stars of the GPs to come over to North America, why not the reverse? I sense an underlying promoter self-interest, fair enough, but why not respect that potential choice and don't shut the door on it before it even gets close to happening?

Having watched "2 Be Continued" last night - which was very impressive - I sense that RV has the kind of independent personality to simply do what he wants....which could include the GPs.

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mrb186 wrote: 4:32pm June 22, 2012

I've got to believe that 'The Man' is going to have some of his toughest decisions for the MXoN. You can't go wrong any of the three 250 guys!

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thetoothperry116 wrote: 4:39pm June 22, 2012

@smellywetdog uh Dungey was on his wheel but James was riding no where near what he is capable of. He went from 10th to 1st in a lap PAST Dungey. haha and at that speed any distraction can make you miss the INSIDE line he was hitting every lap up until that point.

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1977yz wrote: 4:40pm June 22, 2012

The photographer is to blame for James' crash, but he is not alone. At the very least, a professional rider should have the expectation that when he is on the course there won't be anyone or thing on the track. DC is quick to throw the photographer under the bus when in fact the track promoter/operator and MX Sports (DC) are also responsible for allowing an uninformed person to have access to the track and place himself and the riders in danger. They have riders' meetings, I would hope they have some process of educating photogs, etc. as to what they can and cannot do. Step up and acknowledge that you/MX Sports also, ultimately, hold some of the responsibility for what happened.

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crossedup wrote: 4:47pm June 22, 2012

Jeff Ward,Billie Liles,Kent Howerton and Goat Brecker were team Kawasaki

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MustardDog wrote: 5:04pm June 22, 2012

I agree Smelly. Anyone that follows this stuff knows that JS was going to go down sometime soon. And what about the 100 other crashes where he is by himself? I think just say he 'crashed and got hurt'- no need for the reasons.

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BillC wrote: 5:22pm June 22, 2012

RV.... "F" Honda, PLEASE don't go there!!!

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muhamed wrote: 5:30pm June 22, 2012

It's really sad and pathetic the owner of the most circulated MX magazine and MX sports promoter is going to blame that photographer for James crash. I know James presence at the races does wonders for attendance and tv numbers, but to sit there and blame (or stll talk about) the photographer is truly pathetic. Kinda shows how desperate times are when the sports superstar crossruts and crashes almost a full straight away from where the guy crossed, and the sports promoter wants to blame the photog.

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gbs417 wrote: 5:53pm June 22, 2012

It was reported (I believe by Wiegant during the broadcast of the 450's 2nd moto at Budds Creek) that Mike Alessi has stock suspension on his ride and it severely diminishes in capability halfway through the moto. Is MotoConcepts going to avoid purchasing Race Tech, Factory Connection, or Pro Circuit components or upgrades all series?
In this weeks Observations, Matthes noted that Tony said Mike's rebound was turned all the way in; further evidence their set up was way off. How can the 2nd place rider in the series continue to have suspension settings below par of what many amateurs mob? He's barely ahead of the Wiem in the series standings so MotoConcepts better hit up Jimmy's Bump Sticks (a pulpmx special) if they want a chance to remain relevant. It's clear MA is riding well right now. Give him the best chance for success and allow your sponsors to get visibility.

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thetoothperry116 wrote: 5:55pm June 22, 2012

@Muhamedada daddad a full straight away of ruts. Jesus. GO ride a track and gain some respect for what these guys actually do. Rolling around the track wont do anything for you. If you knew this, you could realize that you cant change ruts once commited to one haha. wow. the people that post on this site blow my mind.

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Verge wrote: 5:55pm June 22, 2012

I dont think many Pro riders would crash from a photographer walking across a track. There are constant unexpected things poping up during a race. In the old days in Europe the fans threw rocks and beer at the US riders. They would stand on the track to keep our guys out of the good lines and then move back for thier guys. I just dont think most of the top guys would be that distracted in that situation. It wasnt like he cliped him or even made him change his line.

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muhamed wrote: 6:06pm June 22, 2012

My God....how does James stewart manage to race on a MX track with all those distractions, but he crashes ( I know, out of the ordinary ) cuz a guy crossed the track?  For example things like....other riders, obstacles, ruts, dirt and rocks being roosted at him, fans screaming and yelling, motors revving, scrubbing, whips, caution flags waving, blue flags waving, riders down, lappers, announcer calling the race, photographers snapping photos, track workers on the side of the track, watering the track, and the countless other things that happen during a race...but he crashes (yeah, again, go figure JS7 crashed) because a photographer crossed the track in front of him, getting no where close to him, not like the guy had to duck, flinch, scramble, dive, or jump to get out of the way.  Yeah, I'd blame it on the photog too....geesh. 

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penguin_bob wrote: 6:06pm June 22, 2012

Wow! RV possibly going to race the MXdN? That came out of nowhere. Obviously it's all rumors and nothing is set in stone but I am just shocked by it.

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MX Bob wrote: 6:14pm June 22, 2012

I remember Jeff Lanahan (guitar-trophy mention) from back in the day. He was crazy fast. He took some snow fence out, and almost hit my van, at at track called White Oak in Fredricksburg, Virginia. He was one of the "fast Maryland guys" that would come down from time to time.

The guitar looked like a real Gibson. Probably could have been an Epiphone for as much as it will be actually played.

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frankmobile4 wrote: 7:09pm June 22, 2012

One thing to consider.....Pro riders eyes are focused on a point far ahead of their front fender. Much further ahead than a local expert let alone an amature (no disrespect to either). Mainly because they hit that point faster and with more concentration required than you can ever imagine. It may have looked on the Go Pro like James had plenty of time to react, but at his race speed he was over the photogs footprints in the dirt in less than two seconds.

Remember the guy that stepped in front pack in the first turn of the 250 USGP at Budds Creek. I guess the rider that hit him should have seen him before he nailed him in the groin. Heck, he was only going 1/10 the speed of Stewart (Budds first turn had a right hand hairpin at the time).

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frankmobile4 wrote: 7:25pm June 22, 2012

@gbs417......Alessi runs stock suspension components because it flexes more than factory suspension. April 2012 Racer X - page 154

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RacerMX264 wrote: 7:33pm June 22, 2012

@frankmobile4 - I completely agree. There is a distinct difference between the opinion of serious, experienced MX racers and those that think they know. Coming off of blind, high speed jump, at that speed, with a human running across the track, at a point where Stewart had committed to that line, is enough of a distraction to cause a pro racer to crash. This is obviously Davey Coomb's opinion and we should respect an opinion coming from an expert with his knowledge and experience.

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endoman38 wrote: 7:43pm June 22, 2012

Are we to be Ping-less this week?

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wfodave wrote: 8:14pm June 22, 2012

With DC's penchant for history, I am surprised he didn't toss in a reference to the significance of Bastogne in WWII. Google it.

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Reese wrote: 8:26pm June 22, 2012

What's the deal with the cast on K-Dub's left hand? Did he do that in the Supercross series?

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SpottedMarley wrote: 8:32pm June 22, 2012

The photographer caused Stewart to crash and he should be banished from AMA events in the future.

Every moron will continue to cry about it, but it doesn't change the reality of what happened.

And anybody who doesn't understand how a distraction like that can cause a crash is just plain stupid and has no clue about motocross racing.

Easy peasy japanesey

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whatever wrote: 9:10pm June 22, 2012

Peanut heads!!!^^^^^ Here we go again with the photog deal......look, i have said it before, but it is totally true that it is a possibility that JS would have crashed there anyway....of course it is possible!! But to any of you who say that you KNOW it had nothing to do with it, you are simply wrong!! To the idiot who says it was a "full straight away" from where the guy crossed, go watch his go pro cam again and remember the whole thing happens within about 3 seconds........look where JS is when he goes off the jump and where the guy is that very second, then honestly look at the moment James lands the jump and you will realize the guy is just at the edge of the track at that exact same moment!! Was it a distraction?? Hell yes!! Now if you want to argue whether he SHOULD have been distracted, go ahead....but just don't say there is no way he could have been. It changed the whole MX season kids!!

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Harry wrote: 9:49pm June 22, 2012

What happened to Georgia Lindsey? Davey still no one has answered that, Even though the 450s are a snooze fest, at least the interviews could be interesting and Georgia would have done it right...so where is she? We know there was Visa problems, is that still holding her back???

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cattledog04 wrote: 9:52pm June 22, 2012

It's obvious that our sport is in a state of despair when a team picks a far inferior rider over another. My point, Star is probably going with Weeck for what reason? Politelli has a better resume overall, is a better rider, and has a lot more talent. Making a main in his first professional supercross, 9th place overall in that same season (also his rookie season) says a lot. Not to mention his results during the Canadian nationals and German Supercross series. I guess it's all in who you know. Sad!

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carlsbad wrote: 10:16pm June 22, 2012

Geez, are we really doing photog-gate again?!?!?!

'77YZ's comment has got to give DC's liability lawyer a piss-shiver right up his spine! Crap like that is what closed spots like C-Bad & Saddelback and I wouldn't want to see that B.S. on my worst enemy. Liability is the art of following the money and it sucks that an individuals decision is the catalyst for what's coming next..............somebody needs to name that guy so we know who to thank. As if the moto industry wasn't financially on life support before this got started............

As far as Alessi goes....even IF Suzuki showed him some love and tossed him some suspenders and a tech (which, is highly unlikely due to Suzuki's financial dilemnas), he would still have to test the equip. and likely change his whole chassis setup.....during the two week break so, in essence, no break for #800 and quite possibly making a backwards step.

@ Mrb186, Decoster's decision is a little easier when you consider Barcia as the MX3 guy..............just sayin'.

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OrganDoner wrote: 10:23pm June 22, 2012

If Alessi chooses to run stock suspension than why are him and tony always whining about not having the factory susp??? Pourcel needs to come back to the states and be part of mitch's 450 program w/ broc tickle

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wfodave wrote: 10:29pm June 22, 2012

Where is Ping-a-ling this week? I smell a conspiracy!

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CR500AF wrote: 11:22pm June 22, 2012

@MX Bob - I really enjoyed riding White Oak the few times I had the chance (early 80's). When did it shut down?

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mxchampion wrote: 11:39pm June 22, 2012

i think it would be interesting to see rv on s honda but idk

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CR500AF wrote: 11:52pm June 22, 2012

@MX Bob - is this your web site?

http://www.mxbob.com/index.htm

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Please don't hate us. wrote: 11:55pm June 22, 2012

That "human race" looks like a piece of cake. I did a mud run at a Firebase in Afghanistan put on by a bunch of Commandos. Great way to let off steam and get a little crazy. Those guys wouldn't allow that high crawl BS.

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Osteo wrote: 1:55am June 23, 2012

ZZZ ... Wake up call for Red Bud .... The 250s should be good ....

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DC54 wrote: 3:32am June 23, 2012

@smellyidiotwetdog
Can you get off this site I don't think you even know what day it is...

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Cahill wrote: 4:59am June 23, 2012

Jason Anderson is very impressive this year, really nice to see. Sx championship next year. If he doesn't live up to my expectations then people have every right to dislike him because of my unrealistic view. Props to the Dunge!

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MX Bob wrote: 10:07am June 23, 2012

@CR500AF - Yes, that's my web site. I used to have local race stories, but I don't do that anymore. It's mostly looking back.

From what I understand, the White Oak property has been a housing development for at least 20 years. Too many people commuting from DC for all that land to stay a track.

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Davey Coombs wrote: 10:27am June 23, 2012

YZ77, the "uninformed" photographer has been shooting the races for years. And we have photographers meetings and guidelines handed out all of the time. We also have pre-determined crossing points. MX Sports has accepted the responsibility that a pre-approved photographer with experience made a poor decision to cross the track at the base of a bind downhill tabletop in front of the leader. Moments later, the leader crashed and was injured. He said clearly that the photographer distracted him. I believe it did too. If that differs from your opinion or anyone else's of what happened here, so be it.
The photographer has not been back, and the rules have changed somewhat for everyone else. There must be some personal responsibility for anyone on the infield, be it a shooter, a medic, a mechanic or a flagger. The riders deserve the chance to focus on the race at hand, and not worry that someone will be standing in their way.
I can't help it that some people want to blame Stewart for his own crash, and while he obviously did not hit the man, it was also obvious that a guy walking slowly across the track is not something anyone would expect to see as you lead a national. Or a supercross. Or any race.
In a section that messy, Stewart might have crashed anyway, but the fact that a photographer crossed right in front of him makes that point moot. It happened, and now he's hurt, and it sucks for everyone.
As for Georgia Albertson, she has to get the proper work visas sorted before the network can hire here, and it's definitely taken much longer than anyone expected. I think the other reporters have done a great job jumping right in.
And wfodave, I know all about Bastogne and what happened in December '44, but there were no Americans at the GP, and the top German was actually in Maryland racing the nationals, so it was too much of a stretch to get in some of my history geek stuff!
Thanks for reading Racerhead.
DC

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Davey Coombs wrote: 10:28am June 23, 2012

Sorry, "blind" tabletop

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Claxton wrote: 10:37am June 23, 2012

"But it would be cool to trade RV for Tony Cairoli for a season, or Jeffrey Herlings for Blake Baggett, though Herlings will already be there by then."

What a stupid idea this is then you would end up like CART racing with drivers no one can relate to and be second fiddle losing all your draw cards.

Right now Baggett is the most polarizing rider on the circuit doing his famous Whirlaway come from behind rides everyone loves.
Oh yes trade RV the worlds best to Europe our most popular rider for someone we barely know.
No wonder the TV schedule is so messed up with these thought patterns.

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atc110 wrote: 2:31pm June 23, 2012

@DC thanks for the update, glad to hear they are making some changes...

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CZmark wrote: 3:35pm June 23, 2012

Hopefully the break will give everyone a chance to recharge their batteries. Also looking for the return of Bubbles, he was looking good out there. It would be nice to see some racing up front, not mid pack or back. Glad to hear that "PhotoGate" is officially over, at least for some.

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Harry wrote: 7:50pm June 23, 2012

Davey, that's all fine and dandy, but answer the real question...Where is Georgia Lindsey? Inquiring minds want to know,and no one in the media is answering this question!. So whats it going to be Dave? At least if its going to be a snooze fest in the 450 class,we can at least enjoy a good interview by Ms. Lindsey!

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CZmark wrote: 7:58pm June 23, 2012

@Harry-As for Georgia Albertson, she has to get the proper work visas sorted before the network can hire here, and it's definitely taken much longer than anyone expected. If you had read Daveys post, you would whats up with Georgia!

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FenderFreddy wrote: 8:11pm June 23, 2012

Although it seems tht the 450 class is over as of now, in some opinions, the 450 class was over when Stewy announced he was going to race ....

But if Stewy returns the 450 series, it will become interesting again ... until the gate drops and Stewy proceeds to win every moto ... again ....

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DA712 wrote: 10:34pm June 23, 2012

For the love of ALL insanity!! Can we please get off the photographer caused the JS crash! Somebody please tell me If you've ever raced how that can be! We've all had distractions and not only that it was well AFTER the fact that he went down, caught a rut wrong and went down. It really makes me question whats goin on and the credibility of the people writing these articles and what there is to gain or lose by spinning it this way.

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Harry wrote: 12:12am June 24, 2012

Thank you Davey and CZ mark for the info on Georgia, for some reason I only got the first half of Davey's post ( now I got the full reply). Hopefully she can get her Visa issues sorted out soon, and I do agree that the other reporters have done a good job.But I do think that Georgia knows more about motocross than the others and it shows during her interviews.She does not ask the standard questions and has a way of getting the riders to talk about things other than thanking all their sponsors...so we were looking forward to that.

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beentheredonethat wrote: 8:52am June 24, 2012

Just so you all know, DC has been extremely explicit both at the riders and track workers meetings about NOT crossing the track during the motos.

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call-it wrote: 10:07am June 24, 2012

Hey "DA712"...maybe you should go watch it again, and run your stop watch this time genius. You dorks who keep saying it was "well after the fact" need your heads examined...it appears maybe you are the one who hasn't raced!! Oh, and "For the love of ALL insanity"?? What the hell is that?? Ok, resume being an idiot now!!

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Claxton wrote: 10:28am June 24, 2012

Hey DA712, you would have had like 30 seconds idling in low gear and dragging your boots, but JS had a millisecond to think choice before he got to the dude. I am not a JS fan but I believe him there is no reason for him to lie. Until confronted with a situation like this you cannot say what you would do. That is why a lot of riders put their hands out and break wrists when pitched off instead of roll out of it.

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CZmark wrote: 1:32pm June 24, 2012

Ah, PhotogGate is not dead yet? This is what happens when you have a weekend without racing, nothing to talk about!.

@Claxton-"Hey DA712, you would have had like 30 seconds idling in low gear and dragging your boots". Don't forget the 10 minute delay to reaction timethat DA712 would have had! lol
@You are welcome Harry!

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Osteo wrote: 3:29pm June 24, 2012

SX and MX 2013 could be the best ever ....

And it would be interesting to see more FIM riders in MX ....

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Moto wrote: 2:08pm June 25, 2012

I think DA712 is the photog that ran across the track LOL.

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